Thread 520724883

OpenAI revealed their plan for profitability and it involves the government stepping in and giving them preferential loans so they can stay ahead in compute. This is a national security issue.

>>520724883 (OP)
>subsidize us moar plez we cant make mone with all the gorilion dorras you already pumped into us
>chart looks like every other bubble chart
Its a bubble you stupid nigger

>>520724883 (OP)
if gods chosen says it’s a bubble then it is. simple as.

you will take the chatgpt generated drug

>>520724883 (OP)
>so they're not just gonna sell access to a pharma company on a per token basis. theyre going to demand a rev share of the profit
lol lmao

It makes sense of them to ask for it but is their product good enough that people will agree to it? Why not use a competitor?

>>520724883 (OP)
> lots of loans
> profitability
kek

>>520724883 (OP)
Now I'm sure it is.

>>520725174
They want more money to stay ahead of competition, dummy

OpenAI != AI. Tesla != cars.

>>520725549
>OP != faggot
good try shekelstein

>>520724983
>>520725018
If all the right people are saying it's a bubble, it isn't. Think these people would ever help you or tell you the truth?

>>520725359
Sorry meant to reply to >>520725095
Like I wondered if they can actually demand a rev share.

>>520724883 (OP)
If AI was efficient and useful, it wouldn't need massive cash injection. It uses too much water and electricity and produces no real value. It's a black hole of efficiency and usefulness, but these techbro retards are so hopped up on drugs they cannot stop being delusional about this.

It's like how when you're doing meth, and you're on the computer, and you just can't stop looking at porn even though it's a complete waste of time and energy and you're not gaining anything but in the moment you're convinced that you're getting shit done. When you sober up, you're surrounded by dirty clothes, used foil, water bottles, cake wrappers, a cushion is laying on the floor from your couch, and your PC's audio setting and your monitor's image settings are all fucked up because you kept fucking around with them for hours on end trying to improve them. Your audio driver is busted, you smell like a basement laboratory and filth, you have scabs all over your face and head, and your dick skin has been rubbed off.

That's the AI race.

It's going to get funded because we need to reduce the workforce even more.

>>520724883 (OP)
>chatgpt develops drugs
Well there you go, complete fucking bullshit right there.

Just another trillion bro, just 20 more datacenters, just a million more video cards. C'mon bro I can feel it sentient AI any day now don't hold out on me man.

>>520724883 (OP)
>Nvidia market cap is 5 trillions
>their revenue is less than 65 billions
imagine larping as someone who can lift up a ton but when is your time to lift, you can barely lift 100 KG(220 pounds)

>>520724983
Hey grok fill my table with food ,my children are starving, and you took my job @ amazon please

>>520724883 (OP)
The AMD deal was OpenAI getting 10% of AMD stock for 1c each this was done because OpenAI has no cash but needed money to buy $35 billion worth of AMD's chips by doing this deal it caused AMD's share price to immediately rise 25% so AMD essentially bought their own chips but at the cost of shareholders but because the market is so retarded everyone involved profited

>>520724883 (OP)
AI is a bubble, and it's going the fuck to zero,

>>520724883 (OP)
God can we put Sam Altman in a concentration camp already

>>520726640
valuations are based on what will happen in the future. AI will be all-encompassing and Nvidia will be at the fore-front of the industry, hence why they are priced so high.

>>520724883 (OP)
Did you know that companies as big as microsoft can't even power all their Nvidia chips? The grids can't handle many more huge datacenters. They gotta start putting them in space and be solar powered or something. IDK. I wish AI wasn't a thing. I predict that it will erase millions of jobs in the next 2 years. People will be malding

>>520726533
They're actually open about the fact it's overvalued and a bubble Sam Altman himself has said this and Bezos did too recently but as Bezos recently said for them it's worth it because it helps build up AI faster just like how Cisco helped build infrastructure for the internet well before the demand but by doing so when the demand came the infrastructure was already there the only people who lose out are retail investors who are left holding the bag

The energy requirements alone practically guarantee the epicness of this bubble unless a breakthrough source of energy is disclosed

>>520726737
All Jews and Chinese
These two shit groups will destroy humanity in the end mark my words

>>520724883 (OP)
>subsidies
Surely this will end well...but where have I seen this piss ass business practice before? It's like they are deliberately trying to crash this ship with no survivors.

>>520726762
>>520726741
Lol, the chink AI shills right on time

>>520726640
>NVIDIA revenue is $65 billion
That was for one recent quarter. Their FY24 revenue was $60B but their FY25 revenue was $130B. Their growth has been crazy.

>>520726762
Yes the jeet CEO of Microsoft said plenty of chips are unused in storage because there's no existing datacentre space and for the newly built ones they're using petrol generators to power them because they're currently not connected to the grid and for those that are connected to the grid the energy company is making deals with the datacentre owner to pass on the cost to consumers which is going to cause a large spike in inflation

>>520726741
or because 50% of the West economy is fake and gay and don't produce anything real and useful, but the line must go UP, the capitalists, billionaires and their pets wil put a hole in the Moon if the GDP will go up by 10%

>>520726817
They flood this board nonstop

Every social media

Every wiki account

You can instantly tell when you are talking to wumao chink shills because all their words are the same - CHINA DA BEST!!!

Just imagine the army of chink bugmen at their desks posting across the internet the 'grories' of communist china

>>520726741
>valuations are based on what will happen in the future
Kinda like how we need food and toilet paper? The real breadwinners should be the toilet paper companies, they're doing all the hard work.

>>520726817
He's right though you dumb cunt

https://www.tomshardware.com/tech-industry/artificial-intelligence/microsoft-ceo-says-the-company-doesnt-have-enough-electricity-to-install-all-the-ai-gpus-in-its-inventory-you-may-actually-have-a-bunch-of-chips-sitting-in-inventory-that-i-cant-plug-in

>>520727006
He's right about THAT but then he pivots to still somehow saying that AI will erase millions of jobs
We don't even have any form of AI, LLMs don't possess any form of intelligence or reasoning

>I ASKED AI IF IT WAS A BUBBLE AND IT INSISTED THAT IT'S NOT
>PLEASE GIB ANOTHER 100 BILLION

>>520726737
i don't understand why he's not in jail for raping his sister when she was 9.

>>520726817
I'm just educating you on how stock prices work in an unbiased way you giant faggot

>>520726784
It's not even that it's overvalued. It's too inefficient. It's like setting 1000 gallons of gasoline on fire to warm up an egg incubator. They're trying to mimic how life processes energy to transfer information in a living organism, not understanding that you can't do that because life itself is brutally efficient in taking energy and converting it into data. Life uses an extreme ballet of chemistry, not semiconductors. Also, AI systems lack a REM sleep cycle, and this means that the LLM is constantly subjected to unending entropy. Sleep is used by lifeforms to control entropy. AI has no way of handling entropy.

These guys are not physicists, or actual engineers. They're drugged-up hippies.
Worth a watch to get an idea about these guys, it's pretty funny.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GmJI6qIqURA

>>520725229
It'll be profitable for the US, aka the US tax payer.
It will, and you're going to look real stupid when you didn't buy it this cheap.
AI can fundamentally solve locomotion and complex machinery.

>>520726939
you're pretty stupid if you don't think AI will be used everywhere in the near future.

>>520726691
It's a bubble but it won't go to zero. The Internet didn't go away after the dotcom crash, it will be like that. A bunch of the current companies will be gone though

>>520727171
Just 2 more weeks guys

>>520727134
"""AI""" will never be all encompassing you fucking idiot. LLMs aren't intelligent and already hit the wall in terms of improvement. It's all a pack of lies.

>>520726762
The companies building data centers are starting to build their own power plants.

>>520727122
Um wot m8

>>520727440
sorry nigger, i don't spoonfeed mutts that can't use search engines.

>>520724883 (OP)
banks?
>INSOLVENT
loans?
>DEFAULTING
fed?
>RATE-CUTTING
economy?
>CRASHING WITH NO SURVIVORS

if you don't want to dump money into gold, get booze-making equipment. alcohol is a fine alternative to trading in precious metals and other goods.

>>520727228
It won't go to zero but you might as well think of it like that, the gulf between reality and hype will be that high. LLMs are useful for quickly taking care of menial mental work like editing a million references in a document in a repetitive way, but it will never be capable of more of that, not to mention replacing literally 2 billion jobs.
>>520727424
There won't be enough money in LLMs to maintain own power plants. It's over. Fuck off shill.

>>520727138
We can't even re-create an insect brain. A digital ant, so to speak. A real ant is more intelligent than all this shit put together because it's actually capable of its own reasoning and decision making, however simple that may be. Glorified chatbots powered by fucking video cards will never, ever be able to do that no matter how much money you throw at them. The sheer hubris and stupidity of these people makes me want to vomit.

>>520724883 (OP)
Surely US government wouldn't go out of its way and just GIVE trillions of dollars to OpenAI. What REASON would convince them do it?

>>520727499
Search engines are dead filled with piss.

>>520727171
LLM's have limited usage.
You can say that human augmentation will be everywhere in the future, but we can't even get augments that allow for anything more than picking an object up after a several second windup right now.

Realistically what is "AI" good for? It hallucinates so it's terrible for anything but the most rudimentary clerical work so that rules out things like schooling/lawyers/medicine
And we don't have the means for robots that can do anything faster or more advanced than machines we've had for 50 years now.

This is the techbro equivalent of buying scratch off tickets hoping to hit it big.

>There are 3 Rs in blueberry.
>That will be 1 trillion dollars.

>>520727712
I'm older than him(born in 85) and I look better too, even though I'm bald. He has the face of a 70yo jew grandmother. Also, I have better practical skills. I can do some wild shit with goods from a hardware store.

AI on government subsidies
Of course.
Billions in industry
>We need to cut more expenses.

>>520724883 (OP)
if its actually 'OPEN' as in OPEN AI, then anyone can make a system and compete with them, where is their secret sauce? where is the walled garden of an Apple or a Microsoft? the Chinks will eat their lunch on day 1 of the IPO

>>520726679
>The AMD deal was OpenAI getting 10% of AMD stock for 1c each this was done because OpenAI has no cash but needed money to buy $35 billion worth of AMD's chips by doing this deal it caused AMD's share price to immediately rise 25% so AMD essentially bought their own chips but at the cost of shareholders but because the market is so retarded everyone involved profited
circular financing, a real sign of a bubble

>>520726462
a few companies have business models like this, they do all the upfront r&d for "free" and if they "solve" your problem, like finding a target pharmaceutical in this, they get revenue sharing on the drug. if they don't/can't "solve" your problem the customer pays nothing. naturally this kind of business model is only viable if you have a massive company with huge cash reserves backing you

>>520728438
OpenAnusInsert, their logo is an anus and part of a demon jew star, because the guys running it are gay and fuck each other in the asshole while on dope.

>>520727228
>It's a bubble but it won't go to zero. The Internet didn't go away after the dotcom crash, it will be like that. A bunch of the current companies will be gone though
Cisco -80% but survived, stock price never recovered to bubble value though, even 25 years later

listen to AI Grandpa explain it:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HblpEMZ8YPo

hardware will never lose. all in on NVDA.

>>520726931
>to pass on the cost to consumers
Lol the normies should literally rebel over this, this is utterly unacceptable.

>>520727747
you'll never know about sam altjew raping his sister then.

>>520728605
>hardware will never lose. all in on NVDA.
way too late,

>>520727712
Donald trump is scared of the booogeyman that is china. Doesn't want the gooks to get ahead in the "ai thing", so he'll probably just basically give altman the money, free of charge..

>>520728679
not yet. it'll go to maybe around 3-400 then split again. win win situation.

>>520728669
No one gives a fuck bro, stop kvetching and oy veyhing about it.

>>520724883 (OP)
American tax money goes to jews so of course the government should hand them free gibs using them on the people would be socialism and we dont want that

>>520724883 (OP)
So then what you're saying, is that it's a really big bubble, and they want to keep inflating it, so that when it pops, it takes *absolutely fucking everything* down with it? That's what I just read right?

>>520726679
That's fucking crazy. Is there anyway for a citizen to determine how much of that is automated trading reaction?

>>520726791
Like the sun, or the momentum of gas moving between the crust of the Earth and it's atmosphere.

>>520726901
they're growing because this company that is running out of everyone else's money is buying their gpus (with their own stock)
so not only if openai stalls, nvidia loses its own growth but also depreciates because now it owns a depreciating asset it traded for chips (that only had value cuz everyone was trying it train frontier models that might not even need those chips in a couple years)

Why didnt ghe inventor of unix ein a nobel price but then somebody makes this code but now its not like the others.
Oh and deepseek was the sputnik moment of ai. Wtf.

The guy who The Big Short was based on shorted tech firms to the tune of a billion dollars a couple days ago.

>>520728797
the mutt wanted to know. why don't you stop being a jew, jew?

>>520726662
Amazon fired engineer to pad their bottom line. Line must go up.
Whoever doesn't pick up the slack will be fired too.

>>520730793
Firing people doesn't make the line go up, anon. Stop making pseudo-points like a naive child.

>>520724883 (OP)
Nothing that is not a bubble requires this much deliberation and mental energy in order to paint it as anything but a bubble.

>>520726931
>the energy company is making deals with the datacentre owner to pass on the cost to consumers
I'm going to need quadrillion megawatts and i'm not going to pay for them.
LMAO

AI is going parabolic.

>>520730256
The question is, what did he buy?

>>520731117
Yep

>>520724883 (OP)
I hope and pray this shit is gonna blow up in their faces lmao the world doesn't need AI, it doesn't need huge power hungry data centers. Please God, let their tower of babel come crashing down lmaoooo. Let humans be humans. Transhumanism is gay

Stocks are up because the USD is inflated as fuck. And AI is not a bubble, it is going to remove a lot of jobs and save companies money.

Nothing is stopping this shit.

>>520731511
Thanks for your input shill
>nothing is stopping hallucinating chatbots

>>520724883 (OP)
>needs preferential loans to stay afloat
>not a bubble.

Yeah....about that......

>>520731745
I rarely have that issue with chatgpt5 but ok retard.

>>520731923
>I rarely have that issue with chatgpt5
That's because you're literally too much of a dumb animal to notice it, that's why you also believe in the """AI""" hype
I bet you also think it can actually reason and it has actual intelligence, fucking dumbass lmao

>>520724883 (OP)
Yeah, it's not a bubble at all, it's the fucking Hindenburg of bubbles.

>>520732215
And it's gonna get bigger because it represents something the kikes have always dreamed of: being able to cut out the middle rungs. Doesn't matter if they're office drones, mid-level clerks, bureaucrats, or worse: skilled programmers the Jewish financier has always hated these types because the Jew's ideal society is Jewish financiers on top with a uniform slave caste at the bottom and NOTHING inbetween.

>>520732096
Nigger, I use it to write software everyday.
I noticed the issue in 4, 5 it has way less insomnia.

You can't deny the improvement or you are arguing in bad faith.

>>520732774
Indian detected. I'm an actual software developer and while it is useful for menial clerical work, me and my team are laughing all the time at the stupid shit it does. It's a statistical prediction engine, it will never be able to reason, much less replace millions of jobs.

>>520733390
>sweden flag
>calling someone else a jeet
ya ok mandeep

You aren't shit faggot if you don't use AI to speed up your work. Can't afford the premium service I assume.

Anyways I don't argue with brown people, cya.

I literally wrote it's useful for menial refactoring and it does speed up your work, but you must be a 60IQ inbred Hispanic brown retard to believe based on the fact that it can refactor shit half reliably that it will be able to reason like a human in the future and that it will replace millions of jobs

>>520733651
Why does it need to reason to replace millions of jobs

>>520724883 (OP)
Ai isa. Bubble buffet bezos and then ai techies themselves admitted 730billion just got popped worldwide

>>520724883 (OP)
Everyone who thought it's a fucking bubble is an idiot. It will grow exponentially and greedy retards are gonna fuck over the whole human race.

>>520734655
Two more weeks huh?

>>520724883 (OP)
>oh it's not a bubble
>we just need infinity loans from the gov to stay afloat

>>520724883 (OP)
It’s like the DotCom bubble

Just because it will pop and crash multiple companies, doesn’t mean it isn’t the future

>>520734701
I give it around 10 years, you condescending snow nigger. Mock all you want, you will see.

>>520734792
You are too stupid to even understand that the line in the OP
>AI IS NOT A BUBBLE
was sarcastic. You thought it was backing you up and you riffed on it lmaoooo
Maybe AI can replace you after all

>>520724883 (OP)
> to stay on the cutting edge
There is no "cutting edge", newer LLMs are actually dumber and slower than older ones. They are regressing.

>>520734879
To be frank the newer models are just the old ones but more no-no word/thought prevention and censors.

>>520734861
Why are swedes so effeminate? Even when typing, lmao. I knew what op was doing. Think you're hot shit because you're some run of the mill software developer? You don't know a damn thing.

> go to website
> popup chatbot
> close site
Can't be the only one

>>520734952
I'm actually extremely popular on Grindr, watch your tone mutt

>>520727122
> (((Altman)))
Uhm, goy...

>>520724883 (OP)
OpenAI lost it chances when they never developed a NSFW Mode for Fanfic Writers.

Grok is garbage and shit compared to OpenAI.

I’m waiting 20 years to see if it’s ever improved

>>520734998
Good on you for playing into stereotypes. Only reinforces the fact that you're a retard. Enjoy the time you have left.

>>520724883 (OP)
US model failed, China will won.

I for one welcome our chink overlords

>>520732774
You need to go back. Make the slums of Mumbai great again.

>>520725359
If you cant compete the market doesnt need your product. Go learn a trade Sam.

>>520724883 (OP)
It's not a bubble but the kikes really wish it was. AI will kill their clown casino economies.

That's a wild pyramid scheme

>>520727159
>It'll be profitable for the US, aka the jew parasites in the US.
Fixed*

>>520726691
AI is not a bubble. LLM chatbots are a bubble. I know quite a few AI companies that have been working on control systems for specific hardware use cases since long before ChatGPT became a thing. AI-controlled industrial robots, surveillance drones, grain harvesters, air defence chainguns, name it. They are solid investments with solid products on the end of the development process. They receive a tiny fraction of the investment that LLMs get and they keep advancing no matter if OpenAI lives or dies. LMMs are special. They are swimming in trillions of investor hype dollars that they will never be able to pay back. There is not even remotely enough electricity, computing power, raw data and customer purchasing power on the market to make an amortization of the LLM investments possible. The industry will not shrink back to zero, LLMs have their use. But it will shrink. Catastrophically. Few of the current players will survive and thrive after the crash. Most will leave the industry for good.

>>520735602
They have no choices, this thing told them what it would do

Is save themselves or die here

>>520728728
RIP the American tax payer lmao.

>>520724883 (OP)
Isn’t this the socialism republicans are always crying about?

>>520724883 (OP)
if openAI achieves this it will be a corporation taxing us by the backdoor.

First off oAI is shit. Total scam city. Think solar city 2.0. once the bottom falls out after the 500 billion drys up. After the trillion drys up the tax payers will be holding the bag. There is no stopping it. Trillion is the new billion dollar loan. I'm sure ALL Americans will get free gpt pro access for their children's childrens sacrifice

>>520735810
It doesn’t even make sense. China periodically invests in AI just to catch up with the USA. They understand world changing automation is still decades away so they are not too worried about developing AI. So what we’re basically doing is paying Jews to develop AI that sees them as their god.

>>520726533
>It uses too much water
All AI sites combined "use" 1/30th the water of Netflix. Of note data centers don't consume water, so both use zero, but electricity-wise it's 1/30th.

>>520724983
>>520724883 (OP)
kek

openrAbbI plan for finally making profit:
>please retards give us moneys

What you call "AI" is a bubble because the underlying tech (LLM) is a dead end.
It's just a series of statistical "if" statements.
Bigger = better only works to a point, and at some point you will run out of data to inflate your language table.

>>520726462
this is not strange for pharma. they do research deals with universities who do the research and studies and are the brain power. doing a deal with AI which crunches the numbers isn't so crazy.

>>520735602
Tell me again how haiti will ever produce in trillion years a turbine or anything equivalent.
Also, how's the quality going in bmw factories after turkroaches infested your country?

Sam Altman didn’t reinvent intelligence. he rebranded automation and sold it as prophecy. He talks about AGI and saving humanity, but the numbers tell another story, massive compute debt, trillion-dollar ambitions, and revenue that’s tiny by comparison.

This isn’t revolution It’s a get-rich-quick scam disguised as innovation, hiding behind the word AI

If this isn’t a bubble, then the word’s lost all meaning

>>520726151
They will when the truth is unavoidable. They're not helping you, they're preparing your asshole for the absolute fucking it will get, peasant.

The bubble will burst

>>520724883 (OP)
>We just need 500B + tip

>>520727067
People have lost their jobs because companies believe that AI makes existing workers more productive. It's bad enough that it is even cited as the reason for the layoffs.

>Artificial Intelligence (AI) was the second-most cited factor, leading to 31,039 job cuts as companies continue to restructure and automate. AI has been cited for 48,414 job cuts this year.
https://www.challengergray.com/blog/october-challenger-report-153074-job-cuts-on-cost-cutting-ai/#:~:text=In%20October%20alone%2C%20Cost%2DCutting,48%2C414%20job%20cuts%20this%20year.

>>520724883 (OP)
Pretty sure it's actually a diminishing return that no amount of money will fix. It's just away to transfer away the last of the value left in USD since '29 while providing a control mechanism to detonate the economy.

>>520724883 (OP)
Uhh so what's the plan for paying these loans back?

>>520724883 (OP)
Look

Basically I'm just not gonna use it (AI!!)

I'm sorry!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I know..... UGH I know.....

It's just that I'm not using it is all!!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

>>520726533
its not about delusions, the ceos and owners of these businesses know full well theyre not creating anything, its a money scam like everything else, muh stocks. they are taking money because its being given away

>>520734281
logical determinism is necessary to automate a task, but you use a kekistani flag in 2025, so I'm sure such concerns are beyond your feeble mind.

>>520726151
nigger they have to say it if they dont they are fuckied when it happens
we are not talking some mills of random investors in some shit scam
This is trillion dollar lawsuits incoming
Ofc they need to have a written trace they told its a bubble BECAUSE THEY MADE IT

>>520738460
translation: give more money

>>520725278
Idiot ai is a buble 99 2000 repeat it has no productive value

>>520726817
Imagine how easy the chink shill's job is.

They can spin up a bot that produces random outputs and some trustfuddy will scream it's a chinese spy when in reality, it's a chinese monkey with a typewriter.

>>520737531
Put down the meth pipe, schizo.

did chatgpt even invent any drugs yet or cured anything or is it still just an app that kids use to cheat on tests

>>520724883 (OP)
Seems solid. Really get the confident feeling they have thought this all through. They are the smartest people we have to win the race against Communist China, and AI is the future. I see no problem with the Americans giving all they have to this AI company in collateral just before the bubble pops.

>>520726679
> but at the cost of shareholders
Their stock went up 25% as well idiot

what's the point of AI?

>>520731511
It's funny seeing people mention UBI as if that is even feasible in a country with a $37 trillion dollar debt and a $1.8 trillion annual debt.

It's a bit like the USSR in the sense there are structural economic problems which can't be fixed due to how the 'system' operates until everything implodes

>>520726533
Gold

>>520739833
For actual research, models like SciSpace or Elicit are better.

ChatGPT is a glorified Chatbot. Give it a semi-hard problem and you see it fall apart. Like "Write me a business plan for a small airport hotel in Krakow. Use current market rates from the internet for the cost estimates." It gets all the numbers wrong, guaranteed. It knows what a business plan looks like and how to copy that structure, but it doesn't understand the content. It's the same with research problems, I guess.

>>520727228
The internet is a glorified catalogue or virtual mall.
For something to not be a bubble, at some point, money needs to move from A to B and a product/service from B to A. The internet just facilitates that.
What does AI do? Their services are all free. Where is the revenue from exactly?

>>520724883 (OP)
You got to admit, this kike has some serious chutzpah.

>>520736362
Water is used to cool the equipment...

>>520740127
To greatly reduce the human population and assist in enslaving whoever remains.

>>520724883 (OP)
>you NEED to increase computational demands!
It's amazing how the awful practice of just throwing more processing power at something instead of optimizing somehow because a multi-trillion dollar industry.

>>520724883 (OP)
this industry needs to be harshly regulated to prevent them from sucking all the water, all the energy, and all the peace and quiet from citizens with their chip factories. chip factories should only be built in northern alaska where the cold weather, proximity to ocean, and isolation from population provides an ideal setting for them to operate.

>>520735046
>whats Novelai
?

>>520726741
>valuations are based on what will happen in the future. AI will be all-encompassing and Nvidia will be at the fore-front of the industry, hence why they are priced so high.
And NVIDIA is not delivering, moron, the very definition of a bubble.

>>520738588
>People have lost their jobs because companies believe that AI makes existing workers more productive
Thats absolutely false, moron. Several studies show the opposite, the motive behind the job cuts is because they hired way too many people remotely during the covid lockdowns.
For most jobs that require a brain, AI doesn't help that much, besides searching for information, which you have to validate anyways, because it can always hallucinate bullshit.

>>520724883 (OP)
The AI bubble bursts. OpenAI and Trump cannot build and monopolize a hundred massive nuclear power plants. It's politically impossible, and they lack the time and manpower. The maximum they can do is abandon GPUs and switch to ASICs or TPUs, which are ten times more efficient. That's their last struggle. There is nothing beyond that.

>>520724883 (OP)

Don't worry guys just 2 more government loans, private investments and AI is definitely going to change the world!

>>520724883 (OP)
This is some double dipping bullshit. They want to have other people pay for the setup and costs, but also demand perpetual royalties on anything that money financed doing.

If they got their deal as they describe it, they would essentially end up just eating the entire rest of the economy like a landlord buying up housing and demanding rent, but for other industries instead of houses.

>>520724883 (OP)
if their solution was sound people would be lining up throwing money at them. instead they are buying commodites and properties.

>>520741916
AI is the future chud.

>>520724883 (OP)
they are going to sell all of our data

>>520726533
its your data that they are after
and we all gave it to them without a fight
its already over

>>520726151
No they’re helping themself dipshit. They have a massive investment stakes on the short

>>520726691
its your data that gives them value
they will go public and everyones data is getting compromised
its over
the 1trillion is real its surveillance capitalism data leverage

>>520724883 (OP)
>AI IS NOT A BUBBLE
>their plan for profitability involves the government stepping in and giving them preferential loans so they can stay ahead
Pick one stupid bot.

>>520724883 (OP)
sigh day 2 of chatgpt not loading. i want to ask it dumb questions damnit

>>520744769
deepseek, which handily defeated chatgpt in live trading, loads quickly. whats up with that?

>>520730256
The guy who The Big Short was based on screamed end of the world multiple times a decade

>>520724883 (OP)
>OpenAI
>run by a jew
>says they need a trillion in USD money
>won't get it because all that money is already earmarked for Israel
>deepseek does the exact same thing with 100,000x less funding
i'm so sick of all the jewish scamming

>>520741916
it's much worse than that, it's randomizing 0.0 to 1.0 and using billions of those values to decide the booleans based on slamming them into 0 or 1. Training a neural net is just a process of iterating over semi random values in the result function so that i mimics the predetermined values you are training it for -so then novel inputs use the same values and functions to produce novel outputs using found patterns.

>>520745056
which is essentially a giant if/else chain that can be computed in parallel. the only thing special about it is "training" which allows you to create a interpolated input to output correlation. the real danger is all the tards suffering from anthropomorphism when they are looking at statistical average of reddit users opinions.

>>520726533
If you see no value in generative AI, you're using it like shit. I don't know what you'd consider "value", but a machine that can use datasets that are too vast for a human to fathom, in order to provide virtually the entirety of public human knowledge as context for any given topic, can obviously provide value to conversations about philosophy, history, geopolitics, poetry, nutrition, psychology, strategy, logic, etc., etc. If you don't see that, I can only conclude that you don't use it or that you suck ass at prompting.

>>520741364
>And NVIDIA is not delivering
What, massively overpriced gpus and ram are not all-encompassing enough 4u?

>>520724883 (OP)
>we can only afford to generate a profit if the public subsidises us
Pull now.

>>520727138
I could not get through that drivel. Although I tried.
I won't say that Gates is a genius - more a well-connected schizo - but is is still smarter than her. And not everyone needs degrees - billionaires have better things to do with their time than spending three to ten years in school.
And if she doesn't 'get' Atlas Shrugged or realize that most people need others to tell them to sit and stand - she hasn't spent enough time out in the world with regular people.
Also most billionaires are pikers compared to the dynasty families that run the money flows behind the scenes.

>>520724883 (OP)
>It's only a trillion american dollars my dood +upgrade +maintenance +tax +tip
Yeah that's pretty BASED!
Think of it as a long term investment, you pay $1T the first couple of years then after that you get to pay even more dollarinos. win-win

>>520727171
It won't.
Tech never works as promised. As soon as once gadget or system is sold the company sales people are onto the next big thing they can sell.
There are not enough competent staff to run everything and weren't even back in the 1990s when everything was much simpler and less jeeted. Most webpages load much slower now than twenty-five years ago. Most backroom operations are still poorly functioning. Management still has no clue most of the time about what their employees do.
We're more likely to be cooking our food on an open fire again than living in the tech utopia these clowns are pushing for.

>>520748233
>We're more likely to be cooking our food on an open fire again than living in the tech utopia these clowns are pushing for.
I agree. And what was it all for? We're all still slaving away 40+ hours/week.
And the funny thing is, the older I get, the more inspiration I draw from the past. Modern technology is just not as excited as ancient/natural tech. Lmao.

>>520727138
Yes, also actual animal intelligence in humans is grounded in sense perception. Sense is how we know what’s really “real”, all of our abstract thought is grounded in perception. But AI is just a glorified autocorrect. You can put infinite resources into it and it will still never be intelligent.

>>520724883 (OP)
Kek

>>520727138
That efficiency is the essence of millions of generations of survivors. Millions of generations of generous waste, of throwing offspring into the world in the hope that a few strains adapt and survive whatever the gods throw at their generation.

>>520724883 (OP)
If the government is financing it then why have it pretend to be a private company?

>>520740471
>Where is the revenue from exactly?
proompt engineers and gooners paying 20 bucks a month for gpt pro, microsoft throwing copilot in with the office suit in their deals with corporations and the public sector, and some tech starturps who overdosed on the kool-aid

>>520724883 (OP)
The craziest part of all of this is that almost all of the big circle investments these companies have announced haven't even happened yet and it's all a bunch of I Owe Yous, and Open AI is still operated at a loss.
Open AI's entire revenue and survival is being driven by investors that aren't big tech, and all of these circle investments are just going to not happen when just one of them suddenly can't afford it anymore.

>>520727138
Binary logic will never outperform the more complex logic structures.
Even trinary is abstract and inefficient, and they can't figure that out yet, let alone septary logic. Give the wave a shape, read it, and you have more than just on-off.
Data density will be far higher, electricity doesn't have to travel as much or as far.
And to think of phase computing, multiple signals on the same line LMAO watching those engineers explain such simplicity in such complex ways has a whiff of the amateurism about it.

>>520726540
>Less workforce
>Less taxes
>Less money to funnel unless its printed causing inflation making money more worthless
Yay America is broke! Winning!

Oh look more Jews getting rich through “financial innovation” and bullshittery and government corruption rather than just creating actually valuable products or services

Hitler was right about everything

>>520727001
The pendulum will swing to real goods and services. The fake and gay is heading for a brick wall.

>>520727122
Our leaders of business are all Jewish perverts propped up by the government and we are seeing the fruits.
They are all very stupid and very evil.

does anyone really believe feeding LLMs large data sets is going to yield astounding improvements in productivity/technology? how does anyone believe this is worth anything more than getting rid of the button pressers at oversized companies? wtf LOL

>>520740471
OpenAI? They have a subscription model. But even if the entire world population would book the most expensive plan, it would still take decades to amortize the investment. Their growth is limited by hard physical facts, so there is not much that can be done about it. They are overvalued. Their valuation is purely speculative, it's built on the hope that there is a greater idiot to hold the bags for you when everything comes crashing down. Experience teaches that there is none. Only those with insider knowledge or exceptional luck withdraw in time. Everyone else is fucked.

>>520724883 (OP)
There is no public mandate for this part of the tech industry to exist. It has been crammed down our throats.

>>520727138
When men mess with perfection (See bland tasteless vegetables) it shows how lacking we are and should just stop trying to control everything.

>>520727544
My bar will be more valuable for bartering then all the rocks. If you can make your own antibiotics even better.

Jewish CEO is getting billions from the government? Will wonders never cease.

>>520750351
It improves my personal productivity. Talking to an AI is a hundred times more inspiring than talking to any average person on the street, with their shallow little range of skills and interests, with their all-pervasive shame and fear and status obsession. My AI assistants answer my questions without any stupid fucking drama, help me develop my ideas into actions and plans, allow me to explore untrodden paths that literally no one has explored before. Yes, those exist. Everywhere. All you have to do is keep your eyes and ears open and stay curious.

>>520727747
Google search ugly jew and you only get about 20 random pictures. Useless.

>>520724883 (OP)
Socialism with American characteristics.

>>520734765
The web became useful for about 15 years before turning back to shit. Tech is dying because they gatekept the true use cases for it (sharing information/art) for making a few sheckles and shoving ads and propaganda in your face. I have worked in tech since the 90s and now I'm pondering a career change into something physical because there is nowhere good for tech to go.

The best case for AI is horror movies. The imagry can be haunting.

>>520738707
You will end up smarter by doing nothing compared to the tards outsourcing their thinking and reasoning abilities.

>>520740127
Horizon Zero Dawn had a good story that the world gets destroyed by a tech bro using AI to make money off the green energy scam. He ends up being eaten alive in his luxury bunker.

>>520745921
>so much value!!
>looks inside
>the "value" is just a slower google search with less ads (until they have to put the ads in for monetization).
lmao do Indians actually believe this?

>>520740464
That's the only useful thing about AI and it's low level.
Take this information I wrote and structure it. I still need to check the results and make adjustments.
If you ask it to write and structure it then its bland and wrong.

The art it makes is only good for low effort memes but it lacks soul which is the whole point of art. It tells you something about the artist and what they want to communicate. Nothing AI makes will make me feel something.

>needs to be subsidized with taxpayer money to exist

that is exactly what a bubble is. why don't these billionaires get their own money

>>520724883 (OP)
the USA are in the last stages of a collapsing empire. the AI bubble is their way of initiating the final fall of the empire. empires don't collapse and die from wars, they die from economic exhausting, they die from within. we are currently witnessing it, most people are still having their eyes and ears closed

>>520753992
This isn't nearly as much of a bad thing as people think. This society is completely corrupted and gay and we all know the reason for it is due to Jewish subversion and usury. Though I'm 100% sure that drumpf will push for war against Iran or Vuvuzuela before letting the economy shit the bed completely. They will do everything and anything to hold onto power, including trying to drag genz into the meatgrinder

Oh yeah. This shit's a bubble.
When this shit busted, it's going to be catastrophic

>>520724883 (OP)
Why can't they shuffle some transactions around with other tech companies and then reevaluate for a higher loan from the jew like they have been doing? Id rather pay food stamps than computer jews.