Thread 520781292

>I'll just print my own firearm-ACK!

Remember, modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology. They will communicate with government-linked agencies if you start printing weapons, and then (at least in the US), this means the feds can easily get a warrant to surveil and investigate you. And before long - if 3D printing weapons is illegal in your jurisdiction - you'll get thrown in prison.

The number of these cases is on the rise, which indicates insider information coming from the printing devices themselves. They are all backdoored and monitored remotely. Which is something a lot of people don't seem to know.

At the very least, you'd want to never activate the machine until it is enclosed in a Faraday-caged environment with no network access of any sort.

>>520781292 (OP)
do printers need to have an "always on" feature or something?
cant you just... unplug it from the internet and then it cant communicate shit?
I don't own a 3D printer, but I assumed its just a normal device that you can run fully offline without internet connection.

>>520781292 (OP)
>Remember, modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology
It's one thing to be a shizo, it's another thing to be retarded, but to be a retarded schizo is really too much.

>>520781646
There's nothing schizo about any of this. It's an extension of the fingerprinting technology which was introduced during the 90's laserjet era of 2D printing. Devices are identified based on the printer which produced them. If you bought that printer, and it can be linked to you, that can get you in trouble.

Networking surveillance is also nothing new. This isn't exotic technology; it's basic stuff going back decades.

>>520781628
Not if it’s got a mini secret 5g receiver built into it AHHHHH SAVE ME 3DPRINTERMAN

>>520781628
The purpose of a backdoor is to maintain communication despite user input. The only way to sever the network connection is to physically block any potential wi-fi signals.

>>520781628
Most 3d printers run off of fully open source software (unless you own a bambu). Also, most people don't have them connected to any outside network because generally, the kind of people who are into 3d printing are at least tech literate and lean towards being cautious in terms of network security. The things OP is talking about are nonsensical schizo ramblings. He has never touched a 3d printer in his life.

>>520781292 (OP)
>the fed big mad changs printers are threatening their supply chain of glonks to niggers

>>520781292 (OP)
>sketchy
Those are really clean prints actually.

>modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology
If you're not running custom firmware on an ender 3 you're ngmi and deserve everything that happens to you. Especially if you're a bambugoyim

>>520781292 (OP)
>Remember, modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology.
Lol no they aren't. Anyone who is ever printed anything knows how much inconsistency there is between prints, even if you do the exact same thing one after another. You can't trace shit. Also, how is something disconnected from the internet reporting anything?

>>520782090
You're not getting it at all. The printer's user-facing OS is irrelevant to backdooring. I'm talking about firmware modules which are designed to exfiltrate data/information from the device to outside networks. These are not going to be visible without dismantling and analyzing the entire board and chipset, which most users are obviously not capable of doing.

>>520781628
>cant you just... unplug it from the internet and then it cant communicate shit?
Correct. That's the default state for most of them. I have a camera pointed at mine so I can turn it off if a print fails while I'm at work or somewhere. I kill power to the entire outlet so even if there is the "super secret backdoor for spies" built in, it literally doesn't have power to run.

>>520783449
Post your 3D printer so we can tell you have a modicum of knowledge about the topic.

Meanwhile I’ll keep doing stuff like this

>>520783551
You don't need to power the entire device to power a networking module. You just need a capacitor or battery somewhere.

>>520783689
>nooooo it’s super hidden
>trust me bro
Ok. Point it out on where they are hidden. Show me the battery that’s on ANY printer that could be used to power an internet hookup

>>520781292 (OP)
>REEEEEEE! Justice for Lianu Brown Delgado! He din do nuffins.
Or you could just not print up a bunch of cheap hi-point knockoffs to sell to niggers and MS13 gang bangers and avoid all of this trouble.

>>520781292 (OP)
Just get a Chinese 3d printer that doesnt come with nsa backdoors and use Yandex instead of jewgle

>>520781628
its still connected to the power lines, and you can spy on it wirelessly. the stepper motors make characteristic noise. a certain g-code file makes the steppers play any melody. by hearing that melody, you can tell what the executed g-code was.

>>520781292 (OP)
Or they are criminals who are known to snitch on each other all the time.

>>520783689
You mean those things that would be found borderline immediately because printer bros are so into their hobby that they dissect and analyze these things every time a new one comes out? Are you retarded? Besides, even if this sort of thing were true, the people using their printers for illicit purposes would just block the things from being able to wirelessly communicate with quite literally anything (aka child's play).

>>520781292 (OP)
What are you supposed to do with so many guns anyways?

>>520781953
Interesting thought. I think that ghost ghun guy cody? something or other was talking about them flagging 3d printer shipments or something. IDK. probably lots of those threads here are feds trying to entrap people. Guns are apparently not very complicated.

I remember that Vice documentary where they were showing these guys in like.. pakistan in a cave cobbling together guns. You can't uninvent this shit. And what did this guy do wrong exactly?

>>520781646
They actually did this with printers - there is some sort of microdot shit they put on printouts to be able to trace it back to the printer that made it, AND scanners auto-stop when you try to photocopy currency.

>>520782090
I wouldn't put it past 3D printer faggots to add code that auto-detects known firearm patterns and reports back - assuming it was internet connected. But that doesn't mean all of them do. Especially home-brewed 3D printers.

>>520781292 (OP)
My 3D printer is behind seven proxies.
It seldom gets updates in a timely manner.
I can only print rocks. No guns yet.

>>520781292 (OP)
>modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology
OP is a complete retard who doesn't know actually know anything about 3d printing.
Only if you are a newfag who buys a Bambu labs printer or something like that. And in that case, the spyware is just sending back info to the CCP in China. The vast vast majority of 3d printers out are pretty fucking janky and still in the tinker/hobbyist phase of development and don't have anything remotely close to a backdoor sending information about what you are printing to the US government.

>>520784164
>Guns are apparently not very complicated.
Eh, they aren't super complicated, but they aren't super easy either. Sure a slam-fire shotgun is easy as fuck, but that is because all the parts are there at a hardware store. But manufacturing modern firearms takes a little bit of know how. So it's a midwit task at minimum.

>>520783984
Get on the local news.

>>520781857
Imagine using a 3d printer with a working Internet connection. Now imagine ALSO being a person that can wipe their own ass and tie their own shoes. Seriously try it. It can't be done.

>>520781628
>do printers need to have an "always on" feature or something?
No, and for the most common, basic 3d printers, you actually have to go out of your way to connect it to a network. Many of them in their default, stock configuration just print files from an SD card: you put the SD card in your computer, drag the print files to the SD card, sneakernet the card across the room and put it in the printer, then press "print" on the printer to start printing.
You have to do some hacky modding shit to actually be able to control 3d printers directly over a computer over a network.

>>520781292 (OP)
https://reprap.org/wiki/RepRap
https://reprap.org/wiki/Build_A_RepRap
You can build one with an Arduino Mega and a box of scraps if you're not an idiot.
Picrel is probably best design for the conditions you will work from.
You're welcome.

>>520782051
They have to reveal their method of evidence gathering or the evidence is not admissible in court.
NSA backdoors are meant for major national security risks.

>>520781292 (OP)
ngmi

>>520785052
Well no; that's where 'parallel construction' comes in. NSA sends info to a prosecutor; the prosecutor cooks up a story about evidence collection which does not involve the NSA or spying at all.

>Uh, yeah, an 'informant' told us.

Judge signs off, and that's that.

>>520781292 (OP)
>Remember, modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology.
just build your own prusa brah

>>520781292 (OP)
lol if this is true then how did he make 15 instead of 5

>Lose your shit over proprietary printer drivers
>Go on decades long crusade for software freedom
>Retards still using proprietary printer drivers now getting v& by their governments
Stallman literally became Stallman because of backdoored printers and you guys still say he's a commie.

>>520781292 (OP)
>100 rounds of ammunition
Woah, what a crazy amount of ammunition!

>>520783667
Is that the FGC

>>520783449
>I'm talking about firmware modules which are designed to exfiltrate data/information from the device to outside networks.
Dude, a LOT of stock 3d printers don't even have the hardware to even connect to any kind of network. The mainboard is only designed to read G-code and move the stepper motors and print head accordingly. Most of them didn't even have wifi or ethernet hardware to connect to a network until fairly recently.
I had to add on a separate Raspberry Pi and wire it into a printer's control board so that I could run Klipper/Mainsail and actually control the printer from my PC.

>>520781292 (OP)
>ghost guns
Forced serialization on firearms is infringement on the 2nd Amendment of the Bill of Rights.

>>520783984
Sell them, presumably. I'd imagine life as a ghost Glock salesman is pretty good in NYC.

>>520781292 (OP)
Is there some kind of packet analysis software a person can use to monitor what’s being uploaded and from what device through your home modem? They can put Wi-Fi capabilities on a usb stick so it can literally be in any device. Id

>>520783984
How did they catch him?
There's your answer.
Could have been selling traceless pistols out on the streefs.

>>520785746
wireshark

>>520783893
>still connected to the power lines
I distinctly remember in the early 00s this (internet from the power line)being marketed adn developed then it suddenly disappeared from any discussion

Reminder: PCB’s are very delicate.

>>520785189
Hey niggerfaggot where’s your printer? You’re an “expert” after all?

>>520785746
Bro the internet signal itself sends a duplicate to Chinese stations with every single transferred byte. Stop believing in anonymity, you will be buried with a headstone that has your name printed on it

Have you retards not been around long enough to know Windows XP loaded pictures and videos twice as fast?

>>520785467
No. It’s a MAC-11 upper on a printed lower and “stock” with an AR trigger and hammer. So most parts are real gun parts, but it’s still pretty fun. I think it’s cool.

I’ve never done a FCG because it’s not cost efficient unless you plan on making a lot of them. Or you’re a eurofag and can’t get real barrels, then I strongly support their endeavor.

>>520784164
>Guns are apparently not very complicated.
The same principles that have been around for nearly 1000 years. No, not that complicated.

>>520783893
>THE FEDS CAN TELL WHAT YOU'RE MAKING BY LISTENING TO THE MUSIC YOUR DEVICE MAKES THROUGH A POWER LINE
Ask your handler for a raise, this is retarded but will make a few schizos incredibly nervous for a few weeks.

>>520786026
The best part about this is when you know about the download speeds. 100 MEGAbytes used to be quick. Now we have a thousand times that, 100 GB/s downloads… and the shit takes four times as long. Bit sussy, sussy Baka hentaiyo

>>520784304
Right, they did do that, but I always assumed that you could buy a printer SOMEWHERE or at least build one that doesn’t have the spyware.

>>520784164
>Guns are apparently not very complicated.
>>520786090
>The same principles that have been around for nearly 1000 years. No, not that complicated.
Yep. Lots of fun to build a 0%.

All you need is a mill / lathe, HSS tool steel, grinder, blocks of aluminum, block of 416R or 4140/4150, or CMV
>come back to machining White man

>>520784510
So you need knowledge like… with any subject at all, you mean. Dude are you dumb? Holy shit.

>>520786440
+ spring steel sheets of various thickness and piano wire of different thicknesses.
i think thats about everything really.

>>520781292 (OP)
>dozens of rounds of ammunition
I have more than that lost in the couch cushions.

>>520786440
>1911

>>520781292 (OP)
making guns is legal

>>520783984
You’re supposed to mold them in between the steel plates that you also welded, and then in turn place that inside the hole in the ground which you dug, underneath the fake rock which you designed to “open up”. You’re supposed to install a camera device and a joystick wired remote control.

>>520786680
no frame kits are pretty sweet entry level for machining

>>520785926
They finished it and it exists, you can buy powerline adapters today and use them in your house. The implications I will leave to the imagination

my printer is Chinese so this isn't my problem. I also don't live in a homosexual blue state where niggers can assault me freely with no response.

>>520785250
I’m drooling, too bad the land to build this on is $ 1 million min

>>520785489
Is there a place where all this knowledge is so I can learn it? Because the US gov is nuking all the archives right now and I think they’re gonna go full UK/USSR censorship soon. And then nobody will be able to learn anything anymore

>>520781292 (OP)
110% not how 3D printers work, nor is it illegal in anyway to 3D print firearms at home in the USA for US citizens. Lastly 3D printers are just extruder nozzels on tracks reading X,Y,Z coordinates. many open source versions exist or can be built from scratch to ensure no spyware or censored firmware.

R.I.P. J-Stark

>>520785189
Are you fucking retarded? They’re not arresting people for having printers yet. Many industries use them for important tasks.

>>520785926
yes i remember it advertized for network within the same office building without the need to install additional cable. i guess only install a single network device on the mains line.

and i heard smart meters are also spy devices.

>>520785700
>Ctrl+F infringe
Thank you, brother.
Shall. Not. Be. Infringed.

>not a single mention of 3D GUN'T
>part of the globohomo gestapo
>lives in the firmware of the 3d printer
>not present in opensource

>>520782051
wi-fi chips on motherboards are incredibly easy to spot because they look distinctive, and only a handful of companies make them. if wi-fi is on there you could literally just remove it physically.

>>520782090
> nonsensical schizo ramblings
Yeah, like Intel putting hardware backdoors in their motherboards that can access the network without the user knowing?
Total schizo ramblings, never happens

>>520781292 (OP)
non of that is illegal
making guns is legal as long as you don't sell them, they must have serial number such as #1 and no NFA items without proper tax stamp.

next off, its easier to just make a gun out of metal then it is the 3d print one.
i would just grab aluminum bar stock and mill out 100 AR-15 lowers in about 1 week with a basic mill that can be found in garage of any hobbyist all across America.
We have a endless supply of steel barrels, car axles work great and are plentiful.
Gun powder is just charcoal and sulfur which we have a endless supply of and 1 sailboat keel has enough lead to make 100,000 bullets

picrel (2 axes mill) can still be found in high school shop classrooms and is all you need to make a real milled AK-47, M-16 or even a FN-FAL

finally guns are not weapons of war, they are just for personal defense while at war, if we come at you it ain't going to be a shootout, we'll siege cites, set fires, blowup bridges and rail lines, dam rivers and poison your wells, spray your crops with herbicide, sabotage your electrical grid and anything else that will slow you down.
>"BHuut gUns! " ptff stfu, who is this nonsensical psyop even for? anyone stupid enough to think like that wouldn't be enough of a threat to even justify spending the money on that level of investigation.

blahblahblah prusa farm go brrrrrrrrrrrr

>>520788090
>making guns is legal as long as you don't sell them
yep. you can even sell them if you get it serialized via federal shit and then can be transferred through a Federal Firearms Licensee

>>520788015
That's right king, you show'em whats up

>>520783955
If a device has a motherboard it's easy to embed a chip that does stuff you wouldn't expect it to do.

>>520781628
Bullshit. He either ratted himself out by posting pics online on social media or he bragged to someone he knew and they told on him. That's literally what happens 99% of the time. My friend ratted me out and the cops searched my house for 3d printed guns. I didn't have anything completed but i had upper receivers and a few mags and the faggot cops took them as "evidence". The judge wouldnt let me post bail because he was a faggot retard and literally said "he has a 3d printer so we have to keep him locked up because he can manufacture firearms." These kike judges are retarded af and dont understand how this shit works at all. The uppers were legal, and the mags were legal. Ther only reason I didn't ask for them back when I got out after 3 months was because they shitty palmetto state armory ones. You faggots are putting out bad information to scare people out of printing guns (which is legal in 90% of the states). kys faggot.

>>520788326
>you can even sell them if you get it serialized via federal shit and then can be transferred through a Federal Firearms Licensee
this is bullshit too
the only thing prohibited is making funs with the intention to sell without a ffl. serialization is a ffl requirement
there are state laws that place infringements on the above stipulations

>>520788090
If you aren't selling them you don't even need a serial number on it. Some states might vary but most states don't require it.

>>520788326
Honestly going the FFL rout isn't even that big of a deal, i know dudes that went through it just for their personal guns because it's just inconvenient for rural people have to go to town instead of just having purchases shipped direct like a FFL.

But you don't need any of that to legally make a gun in America according to the ATF&E, they actually used to have a FAQ on their website explaining the few step you needed to take when making your own guns to remain legal.

>>520788603
Yep. ATF needs to be dismantled completely. SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

I wonder about the legality of setting up a makerspace dedicated for 0% machining. Because nothing states you need to own the machines or tooling that produce the parts.

>>520781857
blah blah blah amazon 4020 rails and chink steppers with a rasberry pi and lowes hardware says fuckoff faggot. btw what's a goodruby nozzle emp for PLA-6/12?

>>520788090
The difference is that it's cheaper to buy a 3D printer and filament than it is to buy machining tools and bar stock.

>>520781292 (OP)
Mp5sd frt

>>520788660
maybe by state law but the ATF still wants a serial number and it can be as half ass as scratching a digit onto you gun somewhere why not, its not like the serial number correlates to anything and you don't have to file it with them.
So why not just stamp a number on there? picrel are only $10 at harbor freight ffs

>>520781292 (OP)
>NYC

Here's your sign.

>>520781292 (OP)
>3D printers are designed with spyware
OMEGALUL
The most retarded thing I have ever read this week on pol
You can build your own 3d printer if you afraid of cia inside the manufactured one.

>>520788903
Its PA-6/12, PLA is Polylactic acid, which is way different than nylon. Anyways its the material youre printing that should determine nozzle temps and you can usually find that info by looking at the filaments manufactures website for the particular nylon youre using. Also its usually printed on the filament roll itself.

>>520781292 (OP)
No it doesn't.

>>520783667
>Meanwhile I’ll keep doing stuff like this

>>520781292 (OP)
>100 bullets
Jesus christ, I shoot more than 100 bullets every time I go to the range. FFS... hyperventilate some more.

>>520788822
FFL isn't a big deal no. Gov actually loves it because it's less "ghost gun" on the streets.
>But you don't need any of that to legally make a gun in America according to the ATF&E, they actually used to have a FAQ on their website explaining the few step you needed to take when making your own guns to remain legal.
There's really not much to do to remain legal, follow some simple guidelines and most guns already fit the bill.
https://www.atf.gov/firearms/qa/does-individual-need-license-make-firearm-personal-use

>>520789007
While true, it misses the most important factor. Learning to machine is infinitely more useful and profitable for the user as they can make things a 3d printer cannot (non-firearm related metal parts) and the user can find a local machine shop and apply. Which is a real tangable skill unlike pressing print. By your same claim, you could argue a metal 3d printer is cheaper than a full machining setup. Also GhostGunner machine exists which isn't much more and actually beats some printers in price, see picrel for Ghost Gunner in >>520785187. plus there are several kinds of machining tools like picrel for very cheap like less than 800 bucks you can manufacture many parts of a firearm on if you upgrade it's spindle to a router/actual vfd spindle.

>>520781292 (OP)
U can probably find custom firmware that doesnt transmit data. Every problem is solvable if your willing. There are plenty of nutjob techies that hate govt interference

>>520789007
no it's really not.
at least not for the type of person with the skill set need to accomplish the end goal.
a 3d printer and a mill are about the same price and i don't know anyone ever that's bought bar stock, we all just kinda have scrap that's been sitting around since WW2 and aluminum fucking grows on trees at this point.

Its not some crazy machine shop million dollar equipment, people have been milling AR-15 lowers with a simple hand drills for the last 20 years because it really is that simple

>>520781292 (OP)
>fingerprinting
There is no viable way to reliably fingerprint 3D like you can with 2D printers. 3D printers aren't precision machines in the same way 2D printers are.

>>520781292 (OP)
>printer extruded plastic is as strong as forged metal
sure guy

>>520781292 (OP)
>you'd want to never activate the machine until it is enclosed in a Faraday-caged environment with no network access of any sort.
NO SHIT

Its the "Mac n Cheese v2" by Middleton Made.

>>520789942
To be fair there is a massive difference between an 80% build and a 0% build.

>>520785467
See >>520790041.

>>520783893
Just connect it to a battery UPS

Don't you still need a steel barrel and springs from an actual gun?

>>520781628
>>520781292 (OP)
Did he beat his wife? nearly every awb case I've seen in NJ, and I mean like all but 1 or 2 where a guy was doing donuts, slammed into a cop car and his trunk opened showing multiple guns, started with a domestic violence call.
Same thing with the change of address FID thing. you're supposed to update your FID within x number of days of moving and as far as I know no one's been charged with it if they weren't also involved in a DV call

>>520790186
Springs can be made cheaply and easily with a drill and piano wire, and spring sheet steel and hand cutters + a file.
Barrels are easily obtained online with no background checks.

>>520790089
yeah i wouldn't attempt a 0% without a 2 axis mill, using a drill would result in something closer to a cheese grater.
But a drill press with a 2 axis base would get you there

>>520789678
>3030 prover max cutting steel
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f2c4BXAzRu4
Guy didn't increase chip load via reducing the spindle speed so it sounds like shit, but shows what that machine is capable of

>>520781857
90's? I remember reading detective novels from the 20's where they could trace a letter back to the typewriter that was used to write it

>>520783893
Just connect it to a battery UPS

>>520781292 (OP)
Just flash your own firmware to them? Someone who knows how to do that can either offer a modding service or sell their own 3D printers. It's all about who you trust.

>>520790467
>threaded rods
ball screws are the correct choice, but i guess since it'd be manually fed, threaded rod would be fine.
though drill presses don't have the correct bearings for cutting loads. not sure how it's handle that.
I still just say get the 3030provermax + router as seen here >>520790500

>>520789597
Grow a pair you fucking pussy. There is nothing illegal, nor anything difficult about 3d printing a gun frame.

>>520781628
Had a friend who connected his 3d printer to the unsecured network at school. Within an hour it started printing dicks, and never stopped until he airgapped it. Moral of the story: never hook your 3d printer up to the net.

>>520781292 (OP)
Just use a mini mill

>>520790717
aw man i was talking about makeshift in a pinch, the side loading on a drill press would shorten its life quickly.
that 3030mill really doesn't look bad if you can get it on sale for $500ish

This is unconstitutional

>>520790591
the problem is UPS bypass the battery when theyre plugged into the mains. only once the power cuts off then it switches to battery operation.

and the sinewave the UPS puts out is shit in most models, it will cause flickering lightbulbs. and probably can damage devices. one battery charge doesnt last very long.

>>520781292 (OP)
Common manipulation tactic by feds - pioneered by the glowniggers - is to present false information because they know human beings have an almost pathological drive to correct it and will happily spill their guts to do so.
Everyone in this thread who basically self-doxxed in an effort to spike the football in faggot OP's face is a moron who got played like a gradeschool kid.
>Look how much *I* know
>Here's all the pics of my shit
Yeah you sure showed them...
Idiots

>>520791006
im not sure everyone got the same morals out of that.
What if the wanted dicks and just got busted so he made up a story.

>>520791355
>aw man i was talking about makeshift in a pinch, the side loading on a drill press would shorten its life quickly.
You could get away with straight drilling + lots of file work. They did this in the 30's. I forget the gun manufacturer so did, but they produced hundreds of gun parts that way.

>that 3030mill really doesn't look bad if you can get it on sale for $500ish
yeah it's a mind blowing machine for what it is (as long as you upgrade the spindle).
linear rails + ball screws and solid aluminum frame is kind of mental for 750 right now at home depot. At 500 it would be an instane steal.

>>520791507
Maybe but those people also were correct to state it's perfectly legal as a US citizen to print guns. Most people just print the non-serialized components and purchase the receivers, though clearly you're not required.
I'm not sure how people understanding their federal and constitutional rights is getting "played like a gradeschool kid" so please explain.

>>520782051
You can just not connect it to your network. It really is that easy.

>>520791507
>implying they don't know who posts what already
fucking kek

What is pols thoughts on WHITE HAMAS?

>>520786349
>buy one
Nope.
>build one
Maybe, but unlikely.

>>520791585
Well, i can for sure say he did NOT want his printer to print a bunch of dicks. And he couldnt figure out who was doing it because there was a crew of us….

>>520791663
Nice strawman.
I didn't say people understanding "their federal and constitutional rights" is getting played - like the fuckin constitution means any-damn-thing anymore.
YOU did.
The constitution, whatever it is, either has enabled our current situation of fuckedness or has been powerless to prevent it
Regardless, either means it is unfit to exist.
People being manipulated into running their mouth in an effort to try and 'pwn faggot OP' and not realizing what this is... is them being played.
I hate glowniggers as much as the next anon - but I'll be fucked if I'm going to be played like a chump into giving them anything for free
Like this cynical nihilistic faggot >>520791765
>No anons
>Keep telling them whatever they want, and more
>also, if anyone points out that this is fucking stupid
>make sure you mock the person pointing it out and who is trying to help you
I wash my hands of you people
Do whatever you want

>>520791507
Oh no. The government that already knows that I own far more, far better guns will see I have a legal semi auto 9mm PCC. How will I ever recover?

>>520792082
>People being manipulated into running their mouth in an effort to try and 'pwn faggot OP' and not realizing what this is... is them being played.
What's being "given away" you faggot? And why should anyone care?

>>520781292 (OP)
3d printing guns is 100% legal unless you are selling them lmao

>>520781292 (OP)
>all those guns
>only 100 bullets
Damn, they're charging a hobbyist. They should probably drop a bunch of those charges.

anyway you didn't scare me away from printing more guns. i work in embedded systems i know whats in my ender 3 you fucking retard. i will print more guns simply because you made this gay ass thread

>>520792123
>>520792184
>Me: This thread is simply faggot OP manipulating anons into spilling their guts using basic human psychology against them
>(You) Mockery to try and get me to lose my emotional center and another effort to get an anon to spill their guts by playing on the exact same pathological drive to correct false information
You fuckheads are one-trick ponies.
Go back to your trainer and tell them you need remedial training.

>>520781292 (OP)
3d print guns are prone to broken after a few shot btw

>>520789007
I think the bigger difference is that millenials and zoomers are more tech savvy than tool savvy. Also, I've had free bridgeport mills and lathes available to me, but I don't have the space for them amd even moving them and setting them up is a gigantic pain. 80% builds don't ever need more than a drill press, shop press, and maybe tack welder and 3d printing needs a computer and a 4'x4' space is your apartment. I've built guns from bare bar stock all the way to 80% kits with various 3d printed designs in between and making something like a rogue-9 requires the least amount of aggregate skill, tools, and space.

>>520783893
Delete this immediately asshole. Communication over power lines is a myth dickhead

>>520789114
No, the ATF doesn't require a serial number for homebuilds for personal use and there are specific engraving requirements for serial numbers for commercially produced guns.

>>520792860
Welp, time to go research setups for shouting nigger over the mains.

>>520781292 (OP)
Here’s an inside LE tip: all printers can identify you.

>>520791589
i don't know who they hired to do this... but i never go a day without a smile anymore.
>>520791507
we align more then you might think but you are just standing so far over there that your perspective is different.
You aare standing in the already lost the rebellion and now you're hiding with the remaining wounded.
We think just like you but we're over here where we know the glowniggers tactic of disseminating misleading truths to trick the foolish masses into believing it and provoke those that know the truth into doxxing themselves so they can be further targeted for being a dissident.

BUT there is another side to that and taking a good look at where you're actually standing is more important then ever. YOu haven't actually lost that bad yet, stop retreating to a more defensible position because we aaren't on the run, we wouldn't be catching flack if we were not over THEIR target.

DO NOT LET MISLEADING TRUTHS STAND!
this little song and dance isn't for us, glowies know we no longer give a fuck or are staying lowkey so they start sowing bullshit know we won't correct it, guess who that bullshit lands on? Our children and they build their foundational understanding of the world off of those falsehoods and get absolutely BTFO when they try to use what they know as real only to find out you were just to much a a lazy ass bitch to call out the bullshit and help them out.

>>520790467
Kyber pass has shown that cold chisels, files, and handmade tools can get you there. It's always a balance between skill, space, money, and expected output. For most people I think 3d printers win out there and the more unserialized guns (and title 2 firearms) there are in circulation the better in my opinion.

>>520783893
No risk no reward, coward

>>520793108
kek yeah. pretty impressive though for that anemic stock spindle. really shows how rigid the machine actually is.

>>520792655
>reeeee about me posting my own shit
>reeeee know calling me a glownigger
Or you know, you could just answer a basic ass question. You aren't half as smart as you think you are.

>>520793108
>watch a few CNC vids on youtube
>know what bad settings are
Those were done on the same machine as a demonstration of improper RPM and loading.
Or someone tried to prove a point and fell victim to the same.

>>520791910
>NOT want his printer to print a bunch of dicks
bet, he prolly just wanted one or two but hit a extra zero and he couldn't figure out how to cancel it, then it was just stuck shitting out dicks for the time
a hell loop, only living to consume more plastic just to shit out more dicks OH THE HORROR

>>520793246
>>520793271
Honestly what i know about machining comes from turning rotors and just tips i picked up over the years.
That being said idk whaat they are teaching these kids now because i'm constantly seeing wild feed rates and rpm and every other thing i was taught not to do, but it seems like i boomered out and got stuck in the past or something

>>520791507
Cool but if they wanted to know what you know or have they'd just go back in your web history and pull up your purchases and queries, you can learn basically anything on the internet and being afraid someone is gonna come knocking because you know how to write G-code or whatever else is Stasi level and doesn't really happen in the US.

>>520793271
iirc the "other cnc" cut was done on one of their other machines, picrel. (plastic + threaded rods)

>>520793789
>That being said idk whaat they are teaching these kids now because i'm constantly seeing wild feed rates and rpm and every other thing i was taught not to do, but it seems like i boomered out and got stuck in the past or something
because people don't teach chip load they just teach settings

>>520793011
The FCC is sending a death squad to your house as we speak.

>>520782090
Thanks for the input officer

>>520793130
well its more of how a 3d printer unlimits you in unforeseeable ways, like printing a plastic gun=dumb. But printing casting molds for metal...

>>520793265
>You aren't half as smart as you think you are.
Smart enough to see what you're doing and tell you to your fat fucking face
Let me guess...
White male
GS9. Not GS11. You don't smell like an 11
40 pounds overweight
thinning hair
glasses
about 45 years old
sitting your fat ass in a nondescript warehouse in N. Va.
Wife who can't stand you and spends half her time drunk or is on antidepressants.
Kids who don't know you because you're never around.
Underwater on your mortgage and the wife is only sticking around because sunk cost fallacy

>>520781292 (OP)
i think anyone can make their own weapon
what are they going to do? take your sharped stick away?

>>520794524
>projection the post
You're right about the first thing and that's it. At least get your ramblings consistent. First you call me an idiot giving away info to the feds. Then you accuse me of being one.

You're too retarded to even be internally consistent.

>>520795794
Well, that took awhile
Had to go take a break, didn't you?
Bet your supe came over, read that post and told you to step off till you got control of yourself.
Sorry your life sucks "Very Special Agent"
That your wife is a drunk who hates you and will divorce you sooner or later
That your kids will end up on drugs or fucking niggers or whatever
But none of that shit is my fault
Nor is it my problem
You signed up for this all on your own

>>520795970
>You're too retarded to even be internally consistent.

>>520788903
Ruby nozzles? Wtf is it, 2018? Nobody uses ruby anymore. Most hardened steel nozzles are good enough. Too bad every printer manufacturer went back to using their own proprietary nozzles. I missed the days when it was either a V6 or an MK8 nozzle and thats it.

>>520791420
most inverters put relatively pure sinusodial out now. a decade ago this was technology you had to pay an arm and an asshole for.

that square wave cheapo garbage isnt the standard anymore

>>520792123
bitch the only thing semi about this 5" 9mm PCC is the truck it came on

>>520781292 (OP)
Download STL
Rename STL
Its now untraceable

>>520783893
not true, the x, y, and z axis motors are all identical and make the same sound so just a sound recording cannot reconstruct the printer path and it would not hold up in court

>>520791816
I’m pretty sure you can disable it somehow and force-print. The real issue is the Allies’ internet censorship crusade, which is slowly erasing knowledge of how to do this.

>>520792082
>The constitution, whatever it is, either has enabled our current situation of fuckedness or has been powerless to prevent it
Look at that pilpul. You’re obviously ethnically jewish.

>>520781292 (OP)
> They will communicate with government-linked agencies
If you let them go online. This isn't necessary to use them.

>>520796370
>Pictureframe hanging hook.STL

>>520796286
I was specifically referring to what I posted above. It's a toy. It is semi auto. I will not comment further on how easy it is to print swiftlinks or the availability of legal super safeties

>>520791507
Pretty sure that knowledge falls under the first amendment right to protection. Either way, legal or illegal, you should always spread information freely, even if they tey to murder you for it. Your sacrifice saved someone else from them, and maybe even ensures they are eventually defeated.

>>520781292 (OP)
>microdots have entered the thread
>Edward Snowden has left the thread
https://www.untold-stories.net/?p=Puzzled-by-Espionage

>>520781628
No, just get a a prusa or build a voron.

>>520790286
>while all of you were partying, I was studying the art of the desert eagle blade

>>520793177
>LOST
Fuck man that's funny

>>520796581
yeah, was the point. knew you were smart enough to catch the angle there. there's at least a handful of red blooded burgers on the board

>>520781292 (OP)
>Remember, modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology
No. you retard. Only if you connect the printer to the internet.

t. actual infosec pro

RETVRN TO TRADITION

>>520783667
Fedorable toy you've got there

>>520781292 (OP)
you’re a retard, where do you think he got the files to do this, that’s how they found him

you are a schizo

>>520781628
>cant you just... unplug it from the internet and then it cant communicate shit?
Yes. That's what you do. OP is just a fed.

>>520795281
magazine sticking out the side like the retard itself who tries to make that

that is a lil cool though actually

>video of gur special operatives rushing into pokrovsk to raise flag at the ruins of the city center before being killed
>Confirmation soon followed of all 33 operatives from the three uh60 were confirmed
Imagine being told your goal is to raise a flag for twitter then die.

>>520796908
>She looks so hot

>>520783893
No glownigger. Not even the schizos believe this. .

>>520796817
We're becoming rarer and rarer my fren

>>520796908
change the logo to FBI, treacherous scumbags baiting White Americans is their entire business model. not those cia circus clowns

>>520781292 (OP)
Nigga even though ender 3s kinda suck nowadays, they are perfectly fine for 3d printing gats.

>>520783449
This nigga thinks people don't run Marlin or Klipper.

>>520791006
Based dickhacker.

>>520797144
were being shoved out of our own country by people signing up for welfare, who cant be assed to fix their own damn houses

>>520792655
>pathological drive to correct false information
you realize we are at a unprecedented turning point in all of biological history right?
Permanent societal foundations are being build for the future and well known nonsense is getting locked as truth because you think it's just the normal psyop game as usual and you should handle it like we've always done, by not interacting with it to give it energy.
But NO, oh fuck NO! it's not the usual, glowies and corporate interests alike are turning "truth" into a commodity with great scarcity.
Just like cell phones you will need AI and you will be stuck using theirs because they were the last ones to train their AI models off real uncorrupted information.
Googles already complained that the AI training data has been seeded with advertisements

>>520781292 (OP)
>which indicates
So you're just a fucking liar lmao

>>520783893
Yeah, but... While the sounds are deterministically produced by the G-code and its execution, the complexity and potential for variation in firmware interpretation make a perfect reverse translation from sound to the exact original G-code file an extremely difficult, if not impossible, task.

>>520794005
those 3018 machines absolutely suck. You can kinda upgrade them with linear rails and big beefy spindles... but they still will struggle hard with any sort of non-snail's-pace aluminum.

Plus, Carvera just announced the Z1, which is like 800$.

>>520797450
with smoothstepping, full sine driving, "silent" drivers, s-curve acceleration, jerk and acceleration control, all the fancy control shit that modern open source firmwares do, that would be extremely hard to figure out. And now with closed-loop servos becoming somewhat popular in the enthusiast space, it will be even more fucked.
Its not 2010 anymore. 3d printers don't sound (acoustically or electrically) like the Floppotron playing "Stayin' alive" anymore.

>>520797789
...it's 2025, can they play White Boy Summer instead? (JewTube booted it off after 2-3 solid gold months of double nigger gorillion platinum ratings)

>>520797370
It hasn't really hit where I am yet. But I'm ready for the actions needed.

>>520781292 (OP)
Based Trump. Fuck gun coomers.

Trump 2028 #MAGA

I don't think the government cares about what pieces of plastic you make in your house.

>>520783667
>Meanwhile I’ll keep doing stuff like this
>Wasting thousands to print plastic toys

Lmfao
This a new American hobby?

>>520788366
how does your motherboard chip communicate without power?
Does it harness static electricity from the atmosphere?

>>520799691
It uses wireless power transfer created by Nikola Tesla (European)

>>520785926
Yeah, PLC is a thing still, but it's low bandwidth as shit. The cost of LPWAN stuff, even the LTE varieties, is becoming so cheap that it's slowly replacing it. PLC is good enough to exfiltrate some basic data though. On the other hand, the transceivers aren't that cheap and you need a specialized power supply. Either just to use wifi or something.

>>520786923
These kind of work but only because the distance is so short. It can tunnel Ethernet from downstairs to upstairs, but you're not getting an ISP-grade connection at any real range.

>>520799769
That's only for AC printers
>t. DC printer chad
checkmate yuropoor

>>520799525
>>Wasting thousands to print plastic toys
>literally less than a third of that
When you own a single firearm you can get room to shit talk

>>520791792
I find the random animals in the background hilarious.

>>520796873
>3d printing frames means your a glownigger
What weak ass cope is this? For what purpose? It's not even good fedposting like if I posted a giggle switch.

>toy
Yeah. I called it that myself. The point is there's nothing special or sketchy about printing guns.

>>520799525
obnoxious zoomer kids are a plague on this board

>>520799081
unfortunately, it's everywhere here. i am the only White american around here in this major city. so, i naturally keep myself armed as with the nonwhite territory always comes scum, like stink to a pile of steamy dogshit. itll be heading your way in only a matter of time bud

>>520799525
>thousands
It's not 2010 anymore fren.

>>520781292 (OP)
Don't worry. I'm ready.

>>520781292 (OP)
My printer doesn't even have WiFi. Good luck. I live in a free state tho so I can just buy all the guns I want legally

>>520799906
Instead of saving money to move away from that shithole, you spend it on toys. Are you even white? Would an actual white person behave like this? Tolerating living among nonwhites?

>>520797592
that's why you get the 3030prover max
ball screws, linear rails, and an included bracket that holds a router / mill spindle

>>520802120
you're that sorry loser American expat again that couldn't make it in the richest county on earth

>>520802132
I may have to take a look at that. I've put shitloads of effort into "upgrading" my nasty 3018... but the trapezoidal leadscrews are still a big weakness and cause massive chatter.

>>520802120
>shithole thinks that $300 can move you anywhere
One I’m not leaving the US. I’m not a coward. Two, you are retarded. You’re completely wrong about prices and there is this thing called “disposable income” that working whites in America have.

So what’s your next cope?

>>520802224
>richest county on earth
Lmao
You sound glowy as fuck

>>520802353
see the video in this >>520790500 anon. it's got exactly this combo. Insane stuff for a sub 2k setup.

>>520802395
and you sound sorry as fuck, as usual. balding. malding. not worth a pot to piss in.

so, nothings changed.

>>520782051
>the feds have physics-breaking magic like TVs that can spy on you despite not having any cameras you can find in them when you take them apart, and “always on” internet on devices not even plugged in!
Anyone that had such magical powers, whether an agency, or aliens, or jews, or demons, woildnt have to “hide” and could just impose their will on you indefinitely. Take your meds

>>520781292 (OP)
instructions unclear, bought a ghostgunner.

>>520802381
Then don't whine on 4chan. You're basically already replaced with niggers, spics and pajeets in every hole imaginable. Get used to it instead of printing toys. Future will only get worse, not better.

You know how 'laseranon' ended up? Do you want to be the next 'printeranon'?

>>520802420
>Insane stuff for a sub 2k setup.
My pre-order for the carvera z1 is sub 1k setup. I'm gonna wait to see how that performs before i spend any more money on meme desktop CNC stuff instead of just finding a good REAL mill on craigslist.
I already have 6 3d printers, 2 laser cutters, and one wire EDM machine. I don't need more than 2 desktop cnc mills.

>>520781628
Yes there are printers like bambu that require always online now.
>>520781953
Intel chips have integrated 3g modems and ring0 rootkit via intel AMT/ME/minix

>>520802381
hes gonna hit you with the "youre not white" shit next then put up a bunch of mu.ttjak pictures. then start posting a bunch of cherry picked nonsense.

this guy really hasn't grown out of age 12 mentally to match his life skill set. thats why he got thrown out like a moldy pizza box on trash day

>>520802567
>>520802683
there it is.

same loser, same tired bullshit.

>>520802585
Carvera Air is nice because it's got things like quick change bits and tool height setter, but it will not cut anything like in that vid. i mean fwiw any machine which can cut metal is worth it's weight in gold.
>z1
isn't that a Makera not carvera? or am i misremembering

>just finding a good REAL mill on craigslist.
well yeah, it's what you should do. but they are manual. conversion to cnc is not hard but can get expensive if you use quality stuff.

mostly i post the 3030prover max + that spindle for anons to see because it's the most entry level thing which can hog metal that you can get for around 1300 bucks. 750 - 800 for the machine and like 500 for the spindle. this obviously requires tooling still but yeah most so anons don't go down the meme route and actual get something worth it's price

>>520781292 (OP)
if it doesn't connect to the internet how is it going to do that, brainlet

>>520791507
dumb retard only feds post their guns here

>>520781292 (OP)
>Not just building your own 3d printer with a raspberry pi that can't be back doored

>>520781292 (OP)

KYS glownigger

What printer are you buying that has any components manufactured in the USA? Many slicers are open source, and besides that you can just connect to the printer on a linux port and send gcode to it directly. If you're a complete idiot you might try to sell people on fear mongering bullshit like poltard misinformation losers

>>520781292 (OP)
2A, right to bear arms! I'd fight it all the way to SCOTUS

>>520781628
its probably like your car, it has a seperate 2g chip to listen to you take poops or whatever

>>520785746
If you're on Linux, use OpenSnitch, close all dynamic and outdated protocol ports. This way, every inbound and outbound connection has to be checked and approved by you. Not doing this is like having the front door of your house wide open and discovering unwanted people only after they've already entered and lingered around for an unknown duration.

>>520781292 (OP)
>Remember, modern 3D printers are designed with spyware and 'fingerprinting' technology
No they aren't. You're stupid and thinking printers.

>>520803404
Yeah OP is mind numbingly dumb.

its definitely not the parts kits marketed specifically for 3D printed "ghost guns" giving up the customer the mere moment they are asked, its definitely something you just now made up, for sure

>>520804133
Even printers can be easily bypassed by buying used also they make printers that don't include trackers.

Why do all of the World's governments feel the need to disarm the populace?

When all of the World's governments are responsible for the majority of firearm deaths.

Odd that.

Really activates the almonds.

>>520781292 (OP)
Build your own 3D printer.

>>520781292 (OP)
lmao muh serials

look out gangsters

the shitlibs say your gun has a number on it.

no they don't know where you are, but after they cstch you, they'll write that number down.

Have you tried being NOT gay?

>>520802567
>You know how 'laseranon' ended up?
Didn't he shoot his neighbor in the face

>>520794005
Do you use it to print dentures?
How old are you?

>>520802224
>richest county on earth
Thanks to Jews, capitalism, government and financial system. Without money you're nothing, NOTHING. Powerless, your brag stops there.

>>520797147
>FBI, treacherous scumbags
You brag, yet you hate the government that make your great life possible. Wtf is this ?

>>520781292 (OP)
i just realized you are going on about unjailbroken printers

i can't imagine wanting a shitskin to have a gun. it's geartwarming to see niggers getting raped

>>520792722
Why are you lying, kike?

>>520781292 (OP)
>>520781628
>if 3D printing weapons is illegal in your jurisdiction - you'll get thrown in prison.
Making guns is a constitional right, local laws get ignored

>>520807004
read the thread. i was showing an anon what machine made the "other cnc" cut in this pic >>520793108

>>520806422
You only need a serial number if you intend to sell it.
You have the constitutional right to make your own guns, and duy guns funny need a serial number.

If you choose to put a serial number, you can put down literally anything from 1 to "kill cops"

>>520807323
a lot of people underestimate aluminum because its light and soft, but fuck is it dense

r8 my benchie bros

>>520783893
Now THIS is trolling

>>520807685
I like it/10

>>520807685
Cute!

>>520807004
Lol you're a faggot

>>520807542
And it just fucking gums up everything unless you have your feeds n sneeds just right.

>>520783893
>>520807728
He's right
Smart meters can do this, they track and identify what devices use and when.

IDK of they're sensitive enough to track a a 3d printer, but this shit is an actual thing.
This one guy got fixed by the cops or something because I'm one of his videos you could hear the power lines and they tracked him down by using the audio, finding anomalies, then cross referencing it with a data base of power station logs

>>520808125
Shut the fuck up, the inept guvmint with dei hires is too fucking stupid for such things. I mean, they hired you to spread FUD and look how you are flailing. Post a link to your story then, so I can continue to laugh at you.

>>520807887
Use a 2 or 3 flute cutter and ensure proper chip evacuation

>>520807542
yeah. i love machining aluminum such a fun material. i like steel, brass and bronze too but fuck nothing like machining good old aluminum.

>>520807887
yeah, once you learn chip loading per tooth you golden for life. also climb vs conventional

they're just figuring out who has downloaded 3d gun files, genius.

3d printers aren't even connected to the internet, you plug in a usb, genius.

>>520807542
>light
>dense
You're looking for some other term than density there. Density is mass per volume, and if aluminium is coming out as "dense" you're comparing it to something other than metals.

>>520808684
Malleablility. He is an amateur, cut him some slack.

>>520808684
He means dense in the "surprisingly stiff for its weight"

>>520786595
I have more than that I collected in the woods.

>>520808864
you literally just googled "smart meter." post the link faggot

>>520781292 (OP)
Buy Chinese printers.

>>520809118
If you can't find it then that's a u problem

>Bro I printed a new case for my tv remote control.
>I 3D printed a control remote.

>>520809293
>This one guy got fixed by the cops or something because I'm one of his videos you could hear the power lines and they tracked him down by using the audio, finding anomalies, then cross referencing it with a data base of power station logs
this random story you made up?

Ugly (5) nigger. 60% of murders in this country go unsolved because cops are incompetent. Your cops are retards. They are actually selected to be retarded and submissive. You watch too much TV.

>>520781292 (OP)
remember, the feds went after that european kid for 3d printing guns that, in reality, couldn’t be traced or serialised, and as a consequence, that kid went missing after an interview.
>insider information coming from the printing devices themselves.
>They are all backdoored and monitored remotely.
>Which is something a lot of people don't seem to know.
And i also thought it would be a novel idea to get a 3D printer to make spare computer parts until I realised that, like all modern hardware, it all glows so hard it’s practically radioactive - fed catnip; fuck that. Guess the only tried & true way forward is the ol’ 3/4 pipe, black powder & ball bearings, like in those books from that post the other day. Go figure.

>>520809293
Good one kike, I'm still laughing. No o e take this dumb nigger seriously.

>>520809467
Oh that, I didn't make it up it was on a video I watched years ago. I'll look for it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0elNU0iOMY

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20629671

https://www.york.ac.uk/language/news/departmental/2022/hidden-background-noise/

>>520809467
>>520809884
Oh that, I didn't make it up it was on a video I watched years ago. I'll look for it
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e0elNU0iOMY

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-20629671

https://www.york.ac.uk/language/news/departmental/2022/hidden-background-noise/

You can't print ammo so it's useless anyway

>>520788090
>picrel (2 axes mill) can still be found in high school shop classrooms and is all you need to make a real milled AK-47, M-16 or even a FN-FAL
Lol you retard if you actually want to make serviceable shit you need to be able to get a Bridgeport knee mill with glass slides and a DRO. Your picrel is for wood and plastic.

>>520781292 (OP)
>He doesn't root his machines
ngmi

>>520781292 (OP)
Why even bother 3D printing a gun when you can just make one out of steel with pretty basic tools?

The hard part is getting ammo, not making a gun

>>520782090
This goy prints.

>>520810133
>Lol you retard if you actually want to make serviceable shit you need to be able to get a Bridgeport knee mill with glass slides and a DRO. Your picrel is for wood and plastic.
>t. never touched a mill
look anon it's quite obvious you've never touched either. but a makita router over a linear rails can cut steel.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pyblj0Z6MnE

>>520810133
A friend of mine who owns a machine shop bought 100 lower receivers a few years ago so anyone he knows can mill out a ghost gun if needed. All it’ll cost you is $125 and you have to push the button to make it your own functional lower, so that he’s absolved of liability, Kek.

>>520810454
I looked into this, you have to physically own the machine. Like you can't just go to a maker space and use their CNC, I was looking into setting I've up exclusively for at lowers for guests to use
The only way to do it is physically swell then the machine, but that opens up too much liability

>>520810108
You can make ammo in the house tho faggot

I hope the NYCPD enjoy the diversity they voted for. Forget printed guns they're going to be running up against AKs. Commies are going to go full Red army on them.

>>520810659
>I looked into this, you have to physically own the machine.
I don't think that's true. You must have some source for this.

>>520799525
Buddy I could print that for probably $30 USD.

>>520785467
Famas

>>520810133
A bridgeport with a VFD and DRO are for if you need to get your parts to final dimension 95% of the time on the machine alone because you're trying to get into mass production territory and need to keep hand finishing to an absolute minimum. The rudimentary shit he posted is more than sufficient for regular personal and small batch gunsmithing. How exactly do you think people have been making modern style repeater rifles and revolvers for the last 200 years? Ever heard the term saturday night special? Doesn't sound like it.

>>520810757
I'll look into it again.
If "the science has changed" and it's actually legal I'm basically setting up ar15 and Glock vending machines all across this nation. I'm talking like at malls and gas stations and shit, push of a bottom "you" make your own gun, then there's also a machine that dispenses uppers, magazines, ammo, and shit

This isn't a joke, that was my original plan when I read I couldn't somewhere. Shits probably gonna accept bitcoins and silver.
T. Engineer and programmer with a massive chip on his shoulder.

>>520810659
>>520810757
>>520811281
I just looked it up from what I found. Under federal law the person who directs, controls, and intends the manufacture is treated as the "maker" not necessarily whoever physically touches the tools. In other words, no you don't need to own the tools, and even can get parts made in a transactional sense (paying for a part made from a drawing). Someone who organizes the build (provides the designs/files, decides specs, instructs the shops, arranges to take possession, etc.) will ordinarily be the federal "maker" while the individual shops that merely follow those instructions are typically not the maker, unless their role rises above mere execution.

The only part where it gets cloudy is the receiver/frame. so really none of the other parts matter except the receiver/frame. If a shop produces a ready to go receiver/frame then they are considered the maker. If the shop delivers only nonfunctional raw pieces that are not readily convertible into a receiver, then there's no "firearm" under federal law until assembly, and the person who organized/directed the overall build will be the maker once it's assembled.

this is only what I gathered from a few sites like atf and other gun sites. this is only federal too, some states may have differing opinion /bans

>>520781292 (OP)
>upload custom firmware
wow that was hard

>>520791006
Kek

>>520781292 (OP)
probably the slicer not the 3d printer itself is bugged

>>520809939
we use flywheels in the us to equalize spikes. fuck yuropoors they get what they deserve

>>520811548
I read this twice and still don't know what the fuck you said
.I think you said gi for it so look out for news articles either kvetching about borderlands tier weapons vending machines or articles about a deranged domestic terrorist with a kill dozer

>>520783667
What barrels do you use? I can't tell because of the suppressor threads.
>>520781628
The computer and phone backdroor rabbit hole is real and there ability to process and assess users gets better every year. Unless you are off the power grid, in a house with no WIFI or sat, and the cell service is blocked it's technically possible to listen in. The schizos where right and wikileaks proved it. Idk if any anon has a info dump on NSA projects but some of it is absurd. No internet connection, powered off laptop, and the power cord plugged in allows them to use the microphone.

>>520783667
what filament?

>>520785362
A lot of advanced functionality comes from manufacturer drivers. Not to mention printers are the most miserable user devices. Drivers always need to be reinstalled and you need to remove the ink cartridge and stick it back and it fixes it. Gay devices.

>>520813150
>3d printer thread
>proprietary ink printer drivers
why are you so fucking retarded

>>520781292 (OP)
the luty is still perfectly serviceable, 3D printer fags are cattle

>>520812822
>basically no part matters except frame/receiver
>frame/receiver has to be finished by the "maker/owner"
>frame/receiver can be pre-made up to some percentage likely 80% since that's often sold to be completed already with no bg checks.
>you don't need to own the tools, you don't need to even operate the machines
>you just need to be the assembler / finisher of the 80% frame/receiver.

>>520783667
I bet this thing jams like a mofo.

>>520813263
That's kinda what I said, I was gonna have 80% showers and a finishing CNC mill to give out to anyone but it's illegal to do that.
Maybe you're saying it is legal, well see anyway thread is archiving and 404

>>520788090
>>520788090
>non of that is illegal
It's in NYC, it is.
>>520788090
I can tell you never made a lower from scratch and maybe you completed a 80%. Can't tell if k fag who thinks he's a gunsmith because he binge watched youtube videos and downloaded a archive of print files, schematics, and pdfs.
>picrel (2 axes mill) can still be found in high school shop classrooms and is all you need to make a real milled AK-47, M-16 or even a FN-FAL
You need to heat treat, thread, and river at the absolute bare minimum nigger. Barreling a AK requires a press and rifling barrels requires a extremely expensive machine for 16 inches. Fal parts kits are absolute dog shit unless it's from FN. You don't bother making a fal unless for some reason you REALLY want a fal. Same with AK but only because heat treating, rivets, and pressing in barrels is absurd amount of work.
Also using aluminum for a AKM or milled is basically a time bomb where instead of a countdown of seconds its a countdown of times fired.
Go back to the plebbit board or k you dumb faggot.

>>520813568
yeah, it should be legal.

>>520781857
Pro-tip: You can't put microdots in melted plastic.

>>520813085
The biodegradable kind that warps under stress.
Just CNC it, your 3D printed "gun" is only good for a few dozen shots with rounds no larger .22.

>>520788326
You can't buy guns if you intend on reselling and you can't make a fire arm and sell it. You can complete the paperwork and send it to the ATF but they might just ignore it which doesn't matter. Homemade firearms don't require a serial number. You also need to be in a place that is not NY, Chicago, DC, or California.

>>520810108
LoL most poolish post of the day award.

>>520781857
Yes, network surveillance is nothing new. Good thing I have network surveillance tools. Good thing that Open Source devs literally test for this kind of stuff, and if there was an errant signal coming from some open source machine, you would definitely hear about it from the 3d printer community.

>>520813792
do you even know its name nigger?

YET THE TENS OF THOUSANDS OF NIGGERS, SPICS, AND MUSLIMS STILL HAVE THEIR GUNS AND KNIVES AND BOMBS

WOW
GLOWNIGGERS ARE REALLY FALLING APART XD

>>520804091
not what he asked for, and won't account for firmware based egress that your nic or ME does.
>>520786026
schizo
>>520785870
won't catch all devices on your network

>>520785746
you want a router with monitoring. on a budget you could get a mikrotik but it won't let you do anything too advanced like seeing the contents of encrypted traffic. lurk /g/

>>520813953
It's just plastic, retard, nothing close to composites real guns are made of.
Your poornigger gun will jam more than fire. May even go off on itself, lol.

Just make a pipe pistol, geek.

>>520813601
you don't shit about shit kid
you don't need to heat treat shit unless you're making a stamped AKM parts kit like some fucking hobbyist
a milled aluminum ak style receiver with a AR barrel extension to make attaching it cake work and would hold together find if you have enough spring/buffer to not slam the back of the receiver
attaching a pipe to a block with a slot in it ain't fucking hard, for any tradesman of any skill
have you been to a car show ffs?

>>520814131
why the fuck are you guys acting like a homemade gun needs to last 100,000 rounds like a milspec belt-fed?
if you've gotten in more then one fire fight and survived and haven't scavenged a real gun by then, you are helpless.
Us average guys fiddling around in our garages will be fine however, we have confidence in our engineering abilities , if i can gun drill a race cam i can gun drill a barrel ffs

>>520781628
So we have smart meters here in the United States that can pretty much tell for what your you are using your energy, it'll be a shame if you had a battery bank supplying whatever loads you need to things that you don't want traced

>>520787004
>And then nobody will be able to learn anything anymore
how correct you are -dismantling the middle-class does likewise for widely accessible education, and not just about this particular use case but manufacturing more generally, eg curbing access to energetics, and specifically synthetic biology; ie molecular manufacturing. in the future, power will be possessed by those who know how to build and improvise from the ground up.
From Nand to Tetris
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