Thread 520805524

The battle will begin soon.

>>520805524 (OP)
is russia really just taking one shitty city a year?
this is just sad

>>520805579
How much of an army will Ukraine have left a year from now, exactly? They sure are kidnapping a lot of people to make up for their losses

>>520805668
Don't worry, they have a plan

>>520805668
who knows, they seem to be lasting pretty ok considering theyre nearly at 4 years of fighting now

>>520805742
but russia is also importing millions of migrants, whos jewing who

>>520805874
both have lost a ridiculous amount of workers, so the cost of employing workers has skyrocketed
the billionaires need their golems cheap

>>520805524 (OP)
2026 will be all about Stinky

>>520806030
imagine the smell

>>520805524 (OP)
It should be about Kiev, that s how you end that war.

>>520805668
14 to 1 and rising.

It must really suck to be a Russian conscript.

>>520806030
festung stinky the linchpin of ukraine's sovereignty. where putlerite russia goes to die.

>>520805524 (OP)
>another wave of 200k vatnigs going to die just to take the next village
Puccia is so pathetic

>>520805524 (OP)
>Slovyansk and Kramatorsk
Will take ten trillion years for them to get through that at this pace

>>520806088
That's also how you end up with a massive insurgency behind your lines and a huge population of people who are now your citizens who hate your guts. The current strategy the Russians are employing will let them win the war in a way that doesn't leave anyone who is willing to fight against them left alive in Ukraine. Russia is trying to accomplish goals that aren't as simple as capturing the country, they want to make it so Ukraine is never a threat to them again. They are only advancing fast enough to retain the advantage the attacker has in terms of attrition, since contrary to "common knowledge" the attacker typically suffers far fewer casualties than the defender. in fact the attacker typically only suffers serious casualties when the enemy launches a counterattack. This realization was the underlying principle behind the ingenious French bataille conduit which they developed towards the end of the first world war.

>>520805798

>literally to the last hohol

Why are you in my country, piggy? Go and fight.

>>520805579
>% of Ukraine Russia occupied in 2013
0%
>% of Ukraine Russia occupied in 2021
1.5%
>% of Ukraine Russia occupied in 2025 (You are here)
20%
>% of Ukraine Russia will occupy in 2030
40~50%

And before you think that's slow, never forget burgers spent 20 years in Afghanistan and all they got is a trillion dollars of extra debt and an bunch of dead fags.

>>520805579
how am I supposed to read this graphic? from the way it's written it seems like russia started with 0km2 of ukrainian territory and now has -7000km2 of ukrainian territory, but that's clearly not the case

>>520806417
just 2 years ago they were saying infinity gorillion years. so unless infinity gorillion years minus 10 trillion years have passed in the last 2 years I think it might take less time than that

>>520805668
About the same as they had one year ago, if I had to guess.

>>520807842
They start counting from the maximum "territory" Russia "held" when they drove across Ukraine unopposed for a couple of days back in 2022.

In reality, Russia has gained about 4000 km^2 this year, and they claim roughly another 20000 km^2, so at the current rate, they would need about five more years to control all claimed territories.

>>520808577
do you really think it'll take that long? russian territorial capture has sped up dramatically over '24 '25

>>520805524 (OP)
No it won't, Izyum is far more important.

>>520808796
it's not, but it is probably necessary to take it before the final attack on slavyansk and kramatorsk. they'll probably take it in the first half of '26

>>520808796
Izyum? Isn't that the place that Russia abandoned and left a bunch of equipment when Ukraine did their counterattack to take back practically all of the Kharkiv oblast very early in the war?

>>520805524 (OP)
did we reach 2 million dead russian piggies yet?

>>520809377
yea what's your point? at this rate they're on track to take it again permanently

>>520809646
On track for when? Two weeks?

>>520807842
They pick an arbitrary date during the start of the invasion and go from there. They would never start before the invasion or after Ukraine's counterattack because that would defeat their meticulously constructed narrative.

>>520805524 (OP)
I say keep Donetsk open like a bleeding wound while the Russians expand on other fronts. It should remind the Ukrainian nationalists that they could have settled this in the beginning.

>4 years in people still don't understand the concept of war of attrition
its going to be like WW1. lines move slowly, but armies and logistics are being utterly decimated. eventually one side will buckle and the entire front line collapses overnight which allows the other side to race wherever they want.

>>520807752
Lakhta, you forgot how many russian soldiers had their heads cut off in Afghanistan, so they panicked and fled back into the woods.

>>520811042
Russia is already exhausted. We've had more than 10 new taxes in the last two months. Inflation is over 50% this year.

>>520811042
Fighting a ww1 style trench warfare when there are utterly cheap disposable drones to take out the people in the trench seems really stupid.

>>520811042
stop making sense. only midwit emotional takes are allowed here

>>520811324
>>520811324
>We've had more than 10 new taxes in the last two months.

Yes. But at least they don't drop the rouble values as before, so I keep having $5k/month income

>Inflation is over 50% this year.

No

>>520805668
So is Russia, they just have a bigger pool to kidnap.

>>520807749
Russia has a lot of foreign 'volunteers'. Cubans, Indians, South Africans, Chinese etc. There's also the Americans who fled to Russia. One guy left with his family to run from LGBT propaganda in the US, he was forced to fight in Ukraine.

>>520808750
No of course I don't. I said "at current rate". But I don't think they will get there before Ukraine defense collapses completely and they'll get an unconditional surrender without finishing the grind.
But I also think this will take at least another year or two.

>>520805524 (OP)
>Crimea beach party postponed indefinetly
Grim.

>>520812456
This is my favorite style of cope from ziggers

>>520811882
>he was forced to fight in Ukraine.
Why do you post brazen lies? Is it your jewish genes that force you?

>>520806088
That's retarded on two seperate levels.
First of all, if you rush the capital, grab it and declare victory you've only transformed the conflict from an open one into an insurgency. You can ask the Americans, they are world class experts at losing their wars this way.
Second, assuming the Russians are doing this the correct way, which they currently are, taking the capital still isn't the actual end because the opposition still has bodies to throw into the battle so they declare the next city their capital.
You have to spread a wide front line and kill everyone willing to show up to the fight. And keep doing that until you've combed through every tree, stone and basement, all the way to the border. Attempting to cheap out and skip this step is a recipe for failure.

>>520811882
Russia hasn't even conscripted anyone for the war, it's all poor Churka volunteers fighting while also the pro Russian army just chills on guard duty lol

>>520808750
>do you really think it'll take that long? russian territorial capture has sped up dramatically over '24 '25
It very much hasn't

>>520813076
>It very much hasn't
I don't believe you. Plot the relevant territorial changes past the part where the curve stabilizes and show me the difference in capture rate.

>>520812553
Reposting nafo? Onions harder vegannoid

>>520809831
what you think I'm in the russian MoD? after lyman of course you fat fuck

>>520811324
you have to go back piggy, the trenches hunger for pork

>>520813076
you're right, vidrel never happened. piggers still hold avdeevka

>>520813076
start the graph at the beginning of '23
(you won't)
((you won't even reply))
(((you're a shill)))
((((nigger))))

>>520811345
yeah ok retard they should use heckin' NATO tactics like go around the minefield
shut the fuck up and slam your retarded nigger head in a car door.
jesus fucking christ why do people like you even exist.

>>520813159
Nah, bro. Russia is fucked. Any territory they may have captured is at an increasingly unsustainable cost. They may have much more infantry than Ukraine, but their armor has been decimated. They won't be able to capture any the defensive fortresses Ukraine has anymore, and with new missiles coming in, Russia is going to start taking some heavy damaged now that Ukraine has fucked up a good bit of their air defense.

>>520813706
>N
Stopped reading right there. Kill yourself immediately.

>>520813706
der wunderwaffe?

>>520813706
fascinating fiction, but perhaps you could suck the farts out of my arse

totally organic rush of russo-australians defending the honor of the ziggers

>>520805668
the majority of Ukrainian men are now dead, almots all the forces fighting Russia in ukraine now are Nato soldiers
hundreds of thousands of americans are dead already
there are cases of one muslim chechen man taking on 20 navy seals and winning.

>>520806173
trump really saved you with that cope quote lmao

>>520805579
One shitty city per 1,5 years, actually

>>520814197
that's an interesting selfie you posted nafosister

>>520813590
You can easily see the situation between 2023 and 2025 from that picture, you retarded ziggeroid. Now please go and die in some ditch in Donetsk.

>>520806173
It's actually 30 Ukranians per 1 Russian, according to the body exchanges

>>520805524 (OP)
by snownigerias pace rather 2076, if they hold on as long. It took like 2 years for Pokorovsk and it's not even conquered yet. Kramatorsk is 3 x times bigger, so let's calculate:

>Startdate on Pokorovsk: 28 April 2024
>it took 26 months to reach Pokorovsk
>it took roughly 800 days to reach it from 2022 contact lines

Earliest you gonna reach Kramatorsk (and you have to get throug Sloviansk yet!) is end of 2028

How many snowniggers and import niggers you need for that?
>300.000 thousand men

good luck

>>520805579
Learn what is an attrition war.
Russia took over Ukrainian manpower, armour, railroads and energy resources.

>>520807752
are you stupid? Burgers went to Afghanistan and destabilized an entire region between adversary China and Russia and emptied their entire arsenal. Now their cyberspace controls the entire globe and China needs a firewall to protect it. And it doesn't work, you can go to Peking and rock out in a punk bar...

>>520809417
Probably not, but this might be in the very near future. At the current rate somewhere in March, when monke will take his last breathes from the rope.

>>520805579
The grind has to continue to make room for the New Chosen People.

>>520815164
wow germans are fucking stupid as shit. no wonder you faggots spent 55 years under the russian boot

>>520814235
Hello! I am a NATO soldier.

>Retards ITT thinking that progression is linear
>muhh 100 years to reach Pavlohrad
Can't you see what is going on in Velyka Novosilka direction? The front completely collapsed after the fall of Vuhledar.

>>520815392
you don't matter Aussie.

>>520815500
>The Front Collapsed
>S07E23 "Vuhledar"

this it's real, right? gloves are off?

>>520815392
Any German flag on here who doesn't explicitly denounce Ukraine is an Ukrainian deserter.
That being said: Fuck Ukraine, fuck Zelensky, I hope Putin finally grows some balls and nukes that whole subhuman shithole to hell

>>520815556
Meme all you want, but no one is talking about that area.
In reality, that zone is fucked since Russians are advancing behind the defence lines, Ukrainians are too preoccupied defending Pokrovsk, Slovyansk and Kramatorsk, and there is a lack of bigger settlements there, which makes big pushes easier.

>>520805524 (OP)
It wiil cost 50.000+ russian soldiers livesnr88ap

>>520805524 (OP)
Killing hohols is it's own reward.

>>520815509
lol. lmao even
>>520815606
says you're a scared little piggy. back home you go, the trenches hunger for pork

>>520815606
russlanddeutsche detetcted. Ukranians are Kameraden

>>520815672
lol. wake up, it's over prepare for collapse. russia is done.

>>520815712
Why didnt you call 117 yet? Dont want you the reward, pigdog?

>>520805579
look you dumb cunt:
its about maximizing human lives lost and keeping the war as annoying as possibles

>>520805668
the meatgrinder is infinite, ukriane can shuffle entire generations into that, no problem

Hohols are done for, that's for sure. They have 15000+ deserters per month, with more defeats on the way statistics gonna get even worse in 2026.

There is a reason why globohomo is preparing polaks for the meatgrinder. Hohol demographics are already sqeezed by them.

>>520814755
>according to the body exchanges

>>520805524 (OP)
i believe the recent counterattacks in area of dobropilia salient are exactly about stopping future russian advances towards slavians-kramatorsk agglomeration.
afu understands that after pokrovsk is cleaned up, most of the russian forces in that operational theatre will be redirected towards new objectives, with a strong garrison (10k or so) + rubicon protecting pokrovsk and myrnohrad. russians will pivot north to take dobropilia and from that to encircle slaviansk-kramatorsk. afu wants to reinforce that direction at all cost.
i think history legends was talking about such scenario.

>>520805524 (OP)
Wow great job, in this pace you will reach kiev by 2050.
Ziggers need so little to feel happy, i almost jealous, but in other hand i live in civilised world and can have much more to be happy

>>520815833
You're not only a subhuman, but a coward too. And your German is pathetic. How about you filth quit clogging up my local Aldi and fuck off to actually fight for your glorious shithole?

>>520805524 (OP)
naah ours will take the roads north of krasnoarmeinsk and dmitrov, and then Izium they will try to resist but once that’s liberated. Krematorsk and Sloviyansk will basicly fall on their own.
Obviously there will be a effort to expel them, but nothing like these recent battles.

I always find it amusing how hohols and nafotroons shut up when you show them graph with mass desertions from hohol army.

Their coping has its limits, kek.

>wow the war’s not going very fast guess that means I win
Ask the Syria general how that went

>>520811042
Are you sure current Russian doctrine could exploit a break down. Aren't they using small probing attacks all along the lines continually? How much logistics can they apply to a given point that is found to be weak?

I am not sure that the CIA etc have not turned Ukraine into a briar patch for Russia. They are winning and gaining ground, and as a result they do not sue for peace. Maybe this level of weakness is planned by Ukraine's patrons.

>>520816076
hey retard, i remember two years ago russia was supposed to reach kiev by 2300. what happened?

Total Hohol Desertion, THD.

In October, a record number of desertions were set in the Ukrainian Armed Forces: 21,602 people left the service, according to former MP and drone company commander Ihor Lutsenko.

"Every two minutes, someone deserts our army. These are just the official figures. In reality, many cases of unauthorized departures and desertions go unreported. This is the army's number one problem. An army in retreat is an army that is still capable of winning. A disintegrating army, which loses more and more people month after month due to desertion and defections, is the real danger to Ukraine's existence," Lutsenko writes.

Let us recall that over the past year, twice as many soldiers have deserted as during the first 2.5 years of the war.

>>520805524 (OP)
The promised banan. OOK-OOK-OOK.

>>520805524 (OP)
>105 years nurturing Ukrainian nationalism
>only to SUDDENLY attack a 2nd world country of 40 million population with a piss tiny force without leveling strategically important bridges and military bases
>only to withdraw from the promising northern direction and redirect the troops to the fortified eastern one
You want me to believe this isn't the biggest snuff play of the century?
>>520805579
>russia
Russia ended in 1917 and you know it.

>>520813566
>52 kilometers from 1.10.2023 to 29.06.2025, or 637 days.
>80 meters per day.
Cool. Russians will be in Kief (550 km) in just about 19 more years.

>>520818345
it was 300 years just 2 years ago

>>520816882
You could learn a thing or two from the Ukrainian people, they don't let an oligarch ruin their country, unlike you. Fuck Russia.

>>520818479
yea! follow the ukrainian example abs let a jewish clown run your country!

>>520813076
That graph ends in early 2024.

>>520818479
LGBT flag is banned in Russia, maybe you homosexual countries could learn a thing or two from them

>>520813566
You can see individual fields in that picture, and the time span is close to 2 years.
Look at the fucking size of the city of Donetsk in that map, for crying out loud.

>>520816314
Zizter. why are we struggling so? I dont understand blyad. We killed every soldier in first months and blow up every wunderwafffe now we are fighting old man, tranny and conscript agains their will.
Every front should collapse.. but... we are meeting very hard resistance somehow? What will happen when we meet real soldat like nafo?? I am very frighten.

What happens if Europe just says yolo were counter-invading Ukraine, if Russia can do it so can we? (given the long term enormous defence cost of Ukranian capitulation). Seems that given the relatively even balance that a fresh force with vastly superior air power could wrap this up pretty quickly... would Putin actually n00k if Europe said we're gonna advance up to the Russian border but no further? I can't imagine even German boomers believing that at this point. (this obviously could have happened 3 years ago and saved a million lives but we are where we are)

>>520820557
It’s what Poland should’ve done under pretext that they are protecting a million or so citizens in Lwow. They could’ve created a buffer where the latest technology could’ve been fielded and tested by a NATO ally while goading Moscow into provoking a response.

>>520818345
Do you understand what a square kilometer is ?

>>520816882
Zizter please answer. I'm so worried im almost crying here...

>>520806030
>>520806186
Asteryx and Obelyx will make short work of Russia's legions at Stinky.

>>520818479
>they don't let an oligarch ruin their country
too bad they already did

>>520815994
>deserters
Do you reckon many of them are actually dead or are they deserting then getting re-bussified? Where do they desert to?

>>520815833
Verpiss dich in den Schützengraben und lass dich von einer 20€ AliExpress drone in 4k zerlegen, mykola.

>>520818479
>they don't let an oligarch ruin their country
but they do
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ihor_Kolomoyskyi#Relationship_with_Volodymyr_Zelenskyy

>>520807752
>% of ukraine controlled by Russia in 2013, 100% as a puppet state
Fixed it for you.

>>520825811
Yanukovich wasnt a Russian puppet, he just wasnt a NATO puppet. Meanwhile Poroshenko was a WEF puppet 100%.