Thread 520818103

Why do right-wingers think we should be enslaved and blackmailed by the opinions of the 1%? If these people are so afraid of blue state taxes, why haven't they moved out decades ago to live in Nebraska or Oklahoma?

Why do liberals support the interests of investment bankers?

>>520818251
>Taxing investment bankers is in the interests of investment bankers
Kys

Why did the millionaire’s increase? Is the poster suggesting increasing taxes actually increases the millionaires?

Also, 2022-2024, that’s the post-covid boom, right?

>>520818103 (OP)
Because right-wingers are creations of the Jews. And indeed the wealthy are staying in New York City. What they're really mad about is that Mamdani isn't completely owned by the Jews like the rest of the politicians.

lol the tax in Massachusetts doesn't even apply to the vast majority of millionaires because it applies to INCOME not WEALTH. Income over 1 million dollars would be paid by almost nobody in that state, only somebody who received an immense lump sum of money like a lottery winner, beneficiary of a lawsuit / settlement, or like a pro athlete signing a contract or doing an endorsement would ever pay this. Your typical millionaire has a six figure income at most. They'd be perfectly happy living in a state that taxes newly rich poor people or billionaires but leaves them in peace.

Society is a contract. You and a billionaire are both part of it. The contract dictates the rules. The millionaire played the game better, and thus he is very successful. Society could and should consider him more successful than you.

Why should this change the original situation? You and the millionaire are both still dependant on the same social contract. Now when the majority figures out the social contract doesn't benefit them, they want to make changes to it. Why should't this be their right? The right to partake in the contract in the first place didn't have anything to do with how successful you've fared under said contract. The right to take part comes from you both being human individuals. Right winger kids obsessed with being "successful" can't comprehend this.

>>520818543
He saying that high taxes will attract and retain people if those taxes are used to benefit everyone (i.e. better schools, better roads, better infrastructure, better policing etc). The average Republican simply can't conceive of the idea that citizens can get something in return for their taxes, and that the only way to improve society is to give infinite tax breaks to billionaires and corporations with the hopes that it trickles down to the masses.

>>520818294
>investment bankers get a pay cheque

>>520818993
Well, common sense would suggest that the less you charge the business owners the more jobs there are. Money for government on the other hand does not necessarily mean benefits for the population. It usually means corruption and ngos. Let’s not bother getting into how trash government subsidized schools are.

People tend to know how to help themselves. Issues and dissatisfaction arise mainly when you try to defer to daddy rather than do it yourself. I swear liberals just want to be slaves under a welfare state ruled by their elite, also known as communism, and I’m sure that’ll turn out just fantastic.

>>520819581
>It usually means corruption and ngos
Anon, you're just making shit up. You're just ignoring the fact that businesses, especially those that are able to become monopolies, can be just as corrupt as any government. Government officials, at the very least, are accountable to their constituents.

>>520818543
>>520818993
>Libs tax wage-earners, put it all into gentrification projects, and 200,000 boomers become millionaires overnight
The only way we, as a nation, are going to free ourselves from being "enslaved and blackmailed by the opinions of the 1%" is by lowering the age of consent to 14 and becoming the 100 and 10th.

Weird how the group who hates rich people the most relies on their taxes for everything

>>520818103 (OP)

They're both niggerbrain morons. Taking a single statistic out of context means nothing. The Liberal is worse though, because he thinks year-over-year growth constitutes a trend.

>>520819954
>by lowering the age of consent to 14
A true Libertarian detected

>>520819774
Obviously no where close since they don’t make the laws, don’t tend to have violence monopolized, and can easily have competition. An educated, productive nation (skilled workers which can thus leverage those skills in providing or boycotting) is infinitely more powerful and freerer than a slave nation of welfare recipients with little money or know-how to galvanize themselves, obviously.

Why those who manufacture rule the world, repeatedly through history. Welfare is directly antithetical to what starts civilisation (productive and intelligent individuals).

>government is at least accountable

Government is not accountable to anything. They even abscond themselves from the laws of the land. The problem with government is that people look at it like an altruistic older brother, something above everything else, when it’s no different to a business. If it were looked at with the same lens as business, people would protest harder against their damages, instead of begging for it to change or promise to change it themselves. What people should be doing if government is fucking up, is telling it to fuck off, to get their grubby hands off of that thing and volunteering to do it themselves.

>>520818543
State got better to live in due to the use of taxes

>>520820897
It’s all about balance ain’t it.

Particularly when a business is young, it actually does its job while being affordable. Then at some point it grows into a grotesque tyrant which you should jump ship to find a better deal.

>>520818103 (OP)
>Income
>Wealth
More retards.
>Perhaps you'd like to explain why that is?
Because net wealth is not the same thing as income you absolute fucking retard.

>>520820765
>easily have competition
And yet do not. This high-school economics 101 understanding of our economy is just nonsense. We don't live under free market capitalism and even if we did the only way to stop monopolies is by having a big government that's able to regulate when a company gets too big and powerful. The idea that free market competition will always even playing field is just wrong.

>>520818103 (OP)
laffer curve you stupid fucking nigger.

>>520820403
Epstein fucked dozens of kids under 13
He once got a set of 12-year-old Triplets as a gift.

>>520818993
>Infinite tax breaks to billionaires.
Shit for brains: The Taxes affect us. The Taxes increase the prices we pay for things, and Income Taxes affect us MORE than they affect the wealthy.
You know, what you claim TARIFFS (a fancy word for Tax) are doing to make everything more expensive for us.
WE didn't pay income tax before retards who don't understand the difference between wealth and money came along and tried to steal from the wealthy. That's the part we have issue with, US having to pay the taxes. The left love to say "Only the rich will pay", but they conveniently leave out that anybody who earns more than 35k is in the top 10% of earners in the world, AND that they're taxing people who make 10k a year besides.
The left love to move fluidly between relative poverty and absolute poverty in making their anti-rich arguments.

"The wealth will trickle down any century now"-right wing retards making 40k/yr making sure billionaires are safe from taxation

>>520821364
Never said any such thing, I’m just not trying to write a book to cover every base. I’m not arguing for no government (it’s a required business manager). The main point is you need actual valuable workers. The skilled and capable can congregate against the tyrant (usually by finding a spot somewhere out of its auspice to build a new mecca). Or join the tyrant (obviously it’s a good deal for the capable then). The lower class that blow with the wind will always exist. Big government doesn’t help neither, as it’s a business itself, and it merges with business. The end result is the same.

If there were a solution here civilisation wouldn’t fall. In the end, just like monopolies need to be broken up by, government eventually needs to be broken up by new enterprise.