Thread 520988596

orthodox churches are national and literally nobody is controlled by muh russia, the different churches don't even celebrate christmas on the same day

I don't see any problem.

The Orthodox Church can be traced back to tree Byzantine Empire, not Russia.

ETHNIC CLUSSY ARGGHH MY ONE WEAKNESS

Orthodoxy started with Jesus and it continues carrying the Holy Spirit with it. If you don't agree with it, you are brown spiritually and physically.

>>520988814
Christcuckery is christcuckery at the end of the day, I always see black people in orthodox churches

>>520988596 (OP)
You're right anon tranny loving secularism is so much better

>>520988596 (OP)
Jay Dyer controlled by Russians would be an improvement.

>>520988596 (OP)
This guy is retarded and gay

>>520989159
>Orthodoxy started with Jesus

Every sect of Christianity says they're the "original" and everyone else has corrupted doctrine and are heretics who will burn in hell.

You'd think God would take the time to come down to earth every generation or two and hold a Q&A session to clear up any misunderstandings if He really cared about the salvation of our souls..

>>520988596 (OP)
Discount Sam-Hyde who isn't as funny because he still takes life very seriously and gets morally butthurt every time someone legitimately criticizes his magical Jew cult

Russia is based

>>520989159
>You are brown if you don't worship a Jew as God
Were the Pre-Christian Greeks and Romans brown? Did Western Civilization begin on Mt. Sinai?

>>520989453
A non denominational Protestant church that was founded 20yr ago is clearly not the original church

>>520988596 (OP)
>CONTROLLED BY THE RUSSIAN STATE
Oh no! I'll definitely have to go for one of the good goyim religions that's controlled by Americans or Italians instead.

>>520988814
They are ethnic clubs. There are Ortho churches here in Australia, and all they are are just ethnic nationalist clubs for Greeks and Slavs. They fly national flags beside the crosses. They are pro-zigger.

>>520988596 (OP)
There is nothing more pathetic than converting to a denomination not practiced by your grandparents for a reason that's not marriage.

>>520989638

Martin Luther claimed to have rediscovered the "original" doctrine before it got corrupted by the Catholic Church.

Meanwhile Catholic and Orthodox both claim to be the "original" church and accuse each other of having corrupted doctrine

>>520989841
>They are pro-zigger.

Based fuck the GAE

>>520989841
>they are are just ethnic nationalist clubs for Greeks and Slavs.

oy vey how dangerous for Our Democracy, only brown people are allowed to have ethno-religious enclaves in white countries!

>>520989159
Nigga wtf? I'm brown and I agree with you, (soon gon get baptized in your country).

>>520990020
>claims to be Christian
>turns race and nation into an idol

The orthodox church is controlled by judeo bolahevists. And it is the only "based" denomination.

This is proof that Christianity is an evil, satanic religion.

>>520989007
kek. the russian "orthodox church" can be traced directly to the moscovite tsar Peter 1st ("the great") and then to Stalin. It's been a russian government department since 1721.

>>520988596 (OP)
converts are always the biggest retards
/pol/ is full of braindead 'newborns'

>>520988596 (OP)
eastern orthodoxy is a funko worshipping ethnic club cucked by the state
oriental orthodoxy and church of the east are cool thougheverbeit

>>520990166
or born again or however you call them

>>520988596 (OP)
Most Orthodox Christians know nothing about their faith, lol. In Russia, less than 1% of people attend church weekly, and these are mostly old people who will soon die.
The corruption of the Orthodox clergy is legendary. I completely forgot: in Soviet times, 80% of clergy were secret KGB agents and passed on confessions to the authorities, who then collected incriminating evidence on every believer. And all bishops were appointed by order of the KGB, and now by order of the FSB lol

>>520989841
Being pro Russia is the default for non jews.

>>520990315
What a stupid way to do it

>>520988596 (OP)
Any Apostolic faith is fine by me
Personally the claims of Eastern Orthodoxy are weak, but better than pagan, atheist, or protestant

>>520989159
>If you don't agree with it
pidor doesn't know he's a nigger and his "church" is a cult of tsars.

ORTHODOX TRADITIONAL COUNTRY

>>520990135
>>520990388
why is the ukranny owned and controlled by jewish atheists?

>>520990135
They have always been cucks to the state, whatever state that may be, and they celebrate doing so. They bless the leader of the country and the military when they walk around in circles during their divine liturgy every sunday. This mosaic is in the greek patriach’s office.
>inb4 its cuz bartolomew is ecumenist aaaarghh!!!!
youre all weirdos

>>520989914
>Meanwhile Catholic and Orthodox both claim to be the "original" church and accuse each other of having corrupted doctrine
It's really like a family fight though, it's not comparable to the other claims. When you look into Church history it's obvious the differences between the schism and Luther's looney tunes shattering of the Church Christ established.

>>520990561
That's what happens when you turn Christianity into a state cult for worshipping the nation: people lose faith.

>>520990738
>turn Christianity into a state cult
like worshiping Nicholas the 2nd (the bloody) AND Stalin at the same time?

>>520990715
Whats wrong about praying for the leader of your country and for the armed forces? Can pray that they make good decisions and the nation is successful and the forces are successful and stay safe. Theres nothing wrong or bad about that.

>>520991078
>pray that they make good decisions and the nation is successful
LMAO, it looks like their prayers achieve the opposite results for russia.

>>520989353
>I always see black people in orthodox churches
That's because you import niggers from ethiopia, Hans

>>520988596 (OP)
shills have been hating on orthodox today, what did they do to kikes now thats got them seething?

>>520990012
You can say ZOG here

>>520990361
Not really. You can side with the Jewish-ruled West, or you can side with Russia and China. No one sides with the West because it stands for homosexuality and racial replacement.

>>520991078
because they only do it because they are completely and totally beholden to the state, no other reason. it is simply to reinforce the superiority of the government. It is a religio-political ritual. Many people do not seem to understand just how much the Byzantine church was and still is entrenched with the government, whether it be a caliphate, the ottomans, the ussr, or modern states

>>520989159
Every orthodox country is a poor, brown or slavic shithole that exist solely for the elites to traffick human cattle for prostitution. catholic countries are more of the same, except they are primarily used as tax havens and laundering hubs for illegal funds (the browner catholic countries are for child sex trafficking thoughbeit). Meanwhile protestant countries are breeding grounds for the footsoldiers of the NWO. Dunno if God exists but if he does it is quite obvious he hates christianity and has cursed its followers to be slaves to jews.

>>520988596 (OP)
if anyone controls orthodoxy it would be the greek, dumbfuck Kangaroo.

>>520989877
Yeah you should just be a dumb golem and do what other people do without giving it a second thought. Brilliant plan, I'm glad retarded genocides never happened due to that kind of thinking

>>520991977
Isn't it funny that hating women caused a millenia long religious schism and both Churches still censor this fact

i fell for the orthobro meme a few years back. went in a greek orthodox church and was looked like a fucking alien (even though i'm a med like them, they still smelled i was not greek). if you don't feel welcomed, what's the point? i stayed catholic.

>>520988596 (OP)
i thnk
there is only one god

>>520990113
true christians only worship kikes as their idols

>>520994494
how much more we need to endure to kill the fake kike god?
look how it turn for us

As someone who grew up in orthodoxy it is completely useless, corrupt and controlled by the state. Need to convert to catholicism one of these days

>>520994494
Jesus Christ is a Jew.

>>520988596 (OP)
>calls himself Dyer
>keeps living
Retarded grifter

In my cuntry when christian came, they killed all saint people. they burned all saind trees and they burned all books. story old as hell
They dont want u know who u realy are
i Know now. so u failed

There's nothing Jesus in ortho.

Ortho is about - we ban everything for commoners.

It's anti commoners religion.

>>520988596 (OP)
anyone who works with Alex Jones is controlled by the Jews

That's why all smart people become pagan, Muslim, Buddhists (Lahta bots spamming anti Buddhist posts non stop now), Catholics etc

>>520988596 (OP)
>>520989841
Crazy the amount of aussie posters that are jews

>>520988596 (OP)
Orthodox churches are cool and it’s worth checking out, but anyone who has ever been to an orthodox service has to admit that shit is atrocious.

Why the fuck would I want to stand for two hours to listen to no-coherent chanting? It’s bonkers.

White people definitely at least got the philosophical and ethical aspects of Christianity. The thinking about them… the practicing has obviously been a bit of a mess.

>>520995158
i think its true, and we should unite outside our nations. nations are fake. they did it to divite us so we dont ascend to the stars and be gods once again

>>520988814
>the different churches don't even celebrate christmas on the same day
crossjews can't even agree on the birthday of jewsus topkek

>>520995261
>no-coherent chanting
sounds like a skill issue on your part

>>520991602

Yeah but I like that GAE and gay are homonyms

I miss conspiracy Jay. He's just another eye roll now. Should have known this would happen when he started working for lord voldemort

Nationalist religions like russian orthodoxy, arabic islam, iranian shiite islam, judaism, hinduism, shinto will ultimately outcompete "everyone is friends I love BBC" religions like Anglicanism or catholicism.

>>520989877
> goy, denomination is tradition
lol, kys kike

>>520995390
Retarded kikepost.

>>520988596 (OP)
Imagine being a Christkike of any kind in the current year

christ is a new god. 2k years ago. who was before? there was no gods?
imagine how rich spritual life was with ancient people. i ate shrooms i meet ancient gods. old as earth. old as univese posibly

>>520995247
Its because there's a whole block of unused oceanian ip's that are not yet range banned by 4chan. Its tel aviv or some such

>>520995924
The fastest-growing religions in the world are charismatic protestant groups like Pentecostals, so you are wrong.

>>520989453
Oh is God not working according to your expectations again?

>>520988596 (OP)
I think breasts are stupid and my dick is hard.

>>520989453
>>520989554
>>520990388
>>520992302
not an argument
>>520989914
it isnt subjective, you can read the church fathers yourself and find out who corrupted their doctrine.

>>520989353
>Duh, muh larpagan knuckle-dragging natsoc BS is so much cooler.
Let's look at the fine aryan specimens that your gay little ideology produced.
>George Lincoln Rockwell
>Matt Koehl
>Zundel
>Joseph Tommasi
>James Mason
>William Luther Pierce
>Bob Matthews
>Tom Metzger
>Harold Covington
>Mike Enoch
>Richard Spencer
>Matt Heimbach
>Robert Ransdell
>Ben Klassen
>Matt Hale
>Handsome Truth
>Alex Linder
None of those fags ever accomplished jackshit for le white rice. THEY ALL GOT THEIR ASSES KICKED for generations!!!! Your moobment is a joke!

Im not that religious but orthodox seems like the only good one. protshits self deleted and the catholics most important pedophile are telling me we need to bring even more niggers into the country when we’re $40 trillion in debt.

>>520995959
>t. seething crossjew
lmao

>>520988596 (OP)
That Orthodoxy is aligned with -- and doesn't quarrel against or needlessly conspire after -- the interests of the nations they reside in is what makes Orthodox Christianity better.

Catholicism is globohomo-tier with the universal bishop of Papacy wanting to rule the world and rule over the other bishops and all political bodies.

Orthodoxy respects autonomy and decentralization more. It respects nationalities.

Catholicism hates nationalism way more and hates autonomy of other states and is always vying and conspiring against it; just look at the border incident with USA and the Pope condemning Trump on immigration and that is Catholicism in a nutshell. It is gay and globohomo.

I would rather have Orthodoxy with its doctrine of Symphonia which recognizes the mutual importance of Church and State than the ruthless, conspiring, annoying Catholicism that is constantly trying to pester with peoples in its globohomo pursuit and rivaling statesmen so much that in a fit of jealousy they become freemasons probably.

The partiality of Catholicism against the Common Good of States (which Orthodoxy doesn't have because of Symphonia) is like the Democrat Party screwing everything up to get more Mexican voters to boost its ranks (against the interests of the State) and so with Catholicism.

>>520996047
thank you for that info

>>520988596 (OP)
Either way it sounds based and better than current western world

>failed comedian goes into religious commentary and ends up making a joke out of religion
If Jay Dyer is controlled by anyone,it's the CIA itself
>muh online Orthodox bro cult
The trad Orthodox Christian thing is a psyop just like the trad Catholic thing.
>overload the culture with annoying woke shit
>young males get disillusioned
>now shove controlled "alt" media clowns in their faces who say "you can fight the New World Order with those one simple trick:" begome Ordodox or begome Gadolig."
You see kids? Make a meme into a lifestyle choice and suddenly your life will get better. Just don't chimp out or get politically active, alright kids?

>>520996515
Nope, catholics are correctly following galatians 3:28.
And your heresy has already been condemned.
>Phyletism is the principle of applying nationalism to church affairs, specifically the idea that a local church should be based on ethnic or national identity rather than universal Christian principles. It was officially condemned as a heresy by the Patriarchate of Constantinople in 1872 because it divides the church along national lines, undermining its catholicity and universal mission to evangelize all nations

>>520991977
Orthodoxy is the among the least bad form of Christianity in terms of Church and State relationships. While people hate Orthodoxy because it is less antagonistic to the political interests and ethnic groups, I think that is a better quality of Orthodoxy.

Albeit what Rousseau says still counts for Orthodoxy... that Christianity is ultimately seeking to detach people from their countries and states and make them like spiritual jewish slaves in Egypt or Mystery Babylon (This Egyptian bondage or Babylonian Captivity Christians are in is "The World" but also their countries / societies / West or East, temporalisms/secularisms like France, Germany, USA, whatever place is a secularism and not worthy guarding in the Christian worldview ultimately).

>“I am a Christian. He who answers thus has declared everything at once—his country, profession, family; the believer belongs to no city on earth but to the heavenly Jerusalem.”
St. John Chrysostom

Alas, the spirit of Christianity really is to be like the most low church zionist prot schizo nutjob calling his country Mystery Babylon and railing against patriotism (which he deems paganism) -- this applies to all the Churches.

That is why half of /pol/ hates Christianity.

>>520996802
what exactly in orthodoxy prevents you from being politically active?

>>520995390
the date is the same, the calendars are different
parts of the US also used different calendars and the date would change by 10 days crossing from one state to another in 1600s
you sound incredibly retarded btw

>>520989841
>They are pro-zigger.

Russians are natural allies to the West, it just so happens all our nations are captured by the Jewish Mafia so we have no say on this matter

>>520996871
You are mistaken if I think say that as a companion to Christianity.
I'm 100% on board with the neopagans precisely for what you say.

Rousseau's analysis is correct:
https://www.earlymoderntexts.com/assets/pdfs/rousseau1762.pdf
Rousseau's criticism of Christianity
>You may ask: ‘Why were there no wars of religion in the pagan world, where each state had its own form of worship and its own gods?’

>My reply is that just because each state had its own form of worship as well as its own government, no state distinguished its gods from its laws. Political war was also theological war; the gods had, so to speak, provinces that were fixed by the boundaries of nations. The god of one people had no right over other peoples. The gods of the pagans were not jealous gods

>This was the situation when Jesus came to set up on earth a spiritual kingdom, which, by separating the theological from the political system, destroyed the unity of the state, and caused the internal divisions that never ceased to trouble Christian peoples. This new idea of a kingdom of 'the other world' could never have occurred to pagans, so they always regarded the Christians as really rebels.

>However, as there was always a prince and civil laws as well as a church, this double power created a conflict of jurisdiction that made it impossible for Christian states to be governed well; and men never managed to discover whether they were obliged to obey the master or the priest.

>Several peoples, however, even in Europe and its neighbourhood, have tried to preserve or estore the old system–tired and failed, because the spirit of Christianity has won every time. The sacred cult has always remained or again become independent of the sovereign and not essentially linked with the body of the state.

>Among us Europeans, the Kings of England have been made heads of the Church, and the Czars have done much the same.

>>520996507
I know you're a kike because white christian couples marry other whites 99% of the time and have a TFR of 2.5, meaning they are the only whites who have positive birthrates. This means you have a problem with white people having kids and marrying other white people and forming white communities, you are clearly a kike or a jeet, definitely not a white person interested in the survival of white people. Now fuck off out of my country, shitskin.

Rousseau continued--
>Among us Europeans, the Kings of England have been made heads of the Church, and the Czars have done much the same.

>The philosopher Hobbes is the only Christian writer who has seen the evil and seen how to remedy it, and has dared to propose bring the two heads of the eagle together again, restoring the total political unity without which no state or government will ever be rightly constituted. But he should have seen that Christianity's domineering spirit is incompatible with his system, and that the priest's side of the divide would always be stronger than the state's. What has drawn down hatred on his political theory is not so much what is false and terrible in it as what is just and true…

>But this religion, having no special relation to the body politic, leaves the laws with only the force they draw from themselves without adding anything to it; which means that one of the great bonds for uniting the society of the given country is left idle. Worse: so far from binding the citizens' hearts to the state, it detaches them from that and from all earthly things. I know of nothing more contrary to the social spirit.

>Christianity is an entirely spiritual religion, occupied solely with heavenly things; the Christian's country is not of this world.

>But I'm wrong to speak of a Christian republic–those terms are mutually exclusive.

aliyah status?

>>520988596 (OP)
>orthodox masculinity
>looks like a complete fag

>>520997243
>>520997321
>Enduring national identity: Rousseau was famously impressed by the survival of the Jewish people as a distinct nation with ancient laws, even after the destruction of their state. He contrasted this with the demise of Athens, Sparta, and Rome.
>Emphasis on this-worldly ethics: He considered Judaism's focus on justice and compassion to be more practical and superior to Christianity's otherworldliness.
>Model for a modern nation: Rousseau saw the Jewish people's ability to maintain a cohesive identity without a country as a unique marvel that deserved study and admiration.
>Political and intellectual potential: He supported the idea of a free Jewish state, believing that schools and universities for Jews would allow them to demonstrate their intellectual capabilities and arguments without fear.
Critique of modernity: By holding up the Jewish example, Rousseau was also critiquing modern society, suggesting that unique cultural practices could help strengthen social cohesion.

>>520997198
>the date is the same, the calendars are different
the pilpuling begins

What Rousseau says is true:
We didn't have this problem under Paganism -- Paganism was not at war with your country
It did not like Christianity make New Jerusalem an anti-City City seeking to burn and destroy all cities.

"So that you may be the readier to defend the Constitution, know this: for all who have preserved their fatherland, furthered it, enriched it, there is in heaven a sure and allotted abode, where they may enjoy an immortality of happiness." -Cicero

"For nothing happens in the world more pleasing to that supreme Deity, who governs all the universe, than those gatherings and unions of men allied by common laws, which are called states. From this place do their rulers and guardians set out, and to this place do they return." -Cicero

"Exercise this soul in the noblest activities. Now the noblest are cares and exertions for our country's welfare." -Cicero

"But when with a rational spirit you have surveyed the whole field, there is no social relation among them all the more close, none more dear than that which links each one of us with our country. Parents are dear; dear are children, relatives, friends; but one native land embraces all our loves; and who that is true would hesitate to give his life for her, if by his death he could render her a service?" -Cicero

"Plato himself is for a Divine Power assisting in Human Politics… 'tis a remarkable passage that of his in his Meno. "We may as properly call Governors, or States-men, Divine, as we call those who give out the Oracles, or Prophets or Poets by that name; and we may affirm, that they have a Divine Illumination, and are possessed by the Deity, when they consult for the good of the commonwealth" –William Nichols

Aristotle / The State or Political Community Aims at the Highest Good
>But, if all communities aim at some good, the state or political community, which is the highest of all, and which embraces all the rest, aims at good in a greater degree than any other, and at the highest good.

>>520997657
He's right tho, Orthodox still use calendar set by Julius Caesar

>>520997281
>meaning they are the only whites who have positive birthrates.
I have seen birthrates stats before and the ones for crossjews are just a little bit higher.
Would you post the source?

>>520997584
You people say the same about Hitler.

GK Chesterton's The Judaism of Hitler
>Hitlerism is almost entirely of Jewish origin.

>But what i frankly and flatly deny, in history as a whole, is that any Nordic Men ever brought anything in the way of an idea into the world. The Germans came in due course to describe their piracy as imperialism; but they borrowed the idea of imperialism from the Romans. They produced a sort of Prussianism that was praised or blamed as militarism; but they borrowed the idea of militarism from the French. The German Emperors modelled themselves on the Greek Emperors and the Roman Emperors. The greatest of the Prussians did not even conceal his contempt for Prussia. He refused to talk anything but French, or to exchange ideas with anybody except somebody of the type of Voltaire. Then came the liberal ideas of the French Revolution, and the whole movement of German unity was originally a liberal movement on the lines of the French Revolution. Then came the more modern and much more mortally dangerous idea of Race; which the Germans borrowed from a French man named Gobineau. And on top of that idea of Race, came the grand, imperial and insane idea of a Chosen Race, of a sacred seed that is, as the Kaiser said, the salt of the earth; of a people that is God's favourite and guided by him, in a sense in which he does not guide other and lesser peoples. And if anybody asks where anybody got that idea, there is only one possible or conceivable answer. He got it from the Jews.

>>520997657
Are you retarded? January 1st may be today in one calendar but x days ago in another. A letter written in the French colonies arriving to the British colonies would be dated 10 days in the future for the British perspective, but still be written on the same day.

>>520997081
Two primary things:
1) the belief that only people who worship orthodox conception of god are morally good people. This prevents an accurate assessment of political allies.
2) Belief that the messiah (a hebrew concept) is coming back any time now to bring about . This prevents a sense of self-agency for changing the world in a grand scale.
Look at the true paragons of orthodoxy nowadays: guys like Father Ananias (Eric Sorem). He just sits around making unsound arguments against non-orthodox people and doing prayers. He could literally just travel down the street and join a bunch of pro-White people in Montana who are actually trying to change the political order for the better.

>>520997970
lmao
who makes those comics?

>>520988596 (OP)
The Russian Orthodox Church reports to the Patriarch of Constantinople like all Orthodox churches, right?

Alas, most of /pol/ & Nick Fuenties tier groypers are naive and ignorant about this aspect of Catholicism that is at war with nationalism. At least Orthodoxy is more friendly (by accident, it is not by national lines but because of the decentralization of the bishops).
They don't know how bad it is. And it really is tragically as bad as it is, European peoples have entertained this worship for too long and its inability to pull us out of this ditch is showing.

>>520997970
no idea what hitler has to do with it, rousseau was famously in love with judaism, and shilled for it, but guess judaism, paganism, it isn't really important AS LONG AS YOU'RE NOT CHRISTIAN GOY

>>520998069
It's true.
Christians are spiritually circumcised people and spiritually Israel belonging to spiritual New Jerusalem.

>>520996047
>>520995247
It's always a NZ or Aussie flag with the most Jewish shill post you've ever seen

>>520990127
Protestants and Catholics are the ones who are buddies with jews man. They openly have services where they invite jews to speak about the Holohoax and supporting israel

>>520998416
It could be like the leaf said but I just assume many of them are 5 eyes glownigger posters.

>>520998320
I guess there is some sympathy for Judaism, because what Christians want to do to Judaism is what they want to do to the rest of the world:
Invade their countries, strip them of their native identities, traditions and customs and cultures, and make them a bastard people grafted unto the tree of old testament jews.

>>520998145
no, orthodoxy has no papal structure, patriarch of constantinople has ceremonial primacy during various meetings but it's just symbolic honor

>>520989159
I would've converted to orthodox, but I'm pretty sure you guys worship mary like the catholics.

Anyways, it truly is slave morality.

>So Jesus called them together and said, “You know that those regarded as rulers of the Gentiles lord it over them, and their superiors exercise authority over them. But it shall not be this way among you. Instead, whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be the slave of all. For even the Son of Man did not come to be served, but to serve, and to give His life as a ransom for many.”
Mark 10:42-45

>>520998145
Patriarchs don't report to anyone, they form a council and if they can't agree, they all go home and seethe.
Bartholomew is a massive ecumenist that gleefully rubbed elbows with the pope and toured refugees camp and promoted refugees during the refugee crisis, if anyone reported to him, we'd all be neck deep in niggers and unified with the catholic church

>>520998044
with a huge stretch of imagination those could pertain to some monk but absolutely not for average clergy let alone congregation

>>520990388
Wtf orthodox have canonized a monke?

Anyways, fuck Catholicism.
I'd say Orthodoxy is preferable from a /pol/-tier nationalist standpoint, but not really as a friend of Christianity. If I had to entertain Christianity, I'd pick Orthodoxy as the lesser evil for the aforementioned reasons.

>>520997081
Nothing, really, except the time commitment. It's just that encouraging young disillusioned males to delve into a niche religious movement gets them to use up a lot of time and energy reading up on that instead of using that time to get active in any meaningful manner. It's a kind of diversion tactic to get them devote time in one direction so that they won't have time for something else. Plus, the whole trad Cath and Orthodox scene is riddled with a pro NATO and neocon orientation, so the accusation that it's a "Russian" thing is pure bullshit. CIA glowies like Alex Jones' son and Peter Thiel promote the online Orthodox bro psyop.
Besides, the brand of "Orthodoxy" that Jay Dyer shills is very divisive, and the actual clergy do not appreciate is whole Orthodox bro cult. Remember that Jay Dyer's job is literally studying how the CIA creates cults. Dyer obviously learned very well how to apply those skills to stitching together his own Orthodox bro cult

https://theopenark.substack.com/p/from-orthobro-to-orthodox-and-the

>>520997806
you are assuming something which you have yet to prove. if christianity is true, then those fights werent for nothing.
>>520997970
the unbelieving jews were grafted out, and the believing gentiles were grafted in. paul was sad when he realised that because he loved his ethnicity, but as rom 9 says: "i have mercy on whom i will have mercy, and compassion on whom i have compession".
therefore ethno-nationalism doesnt contradict gal 3, because if we had to deny the existence of ethnicity by that passages standard, we would also have to deny the existence of the 2 sexes which is an absurd and bad faith reading of the text. "There is neither Jew nor Greek, there is neither bond nor free, there is neither male nor female: for ye are all one in Christ Jesus."

>>520999117
Yes, those fights aren't for nothing, but you could say what if islam or judaism is true? I will judge the religion by its fruits -- so far I don't like that Christianity divides the country with the various churches and denominations.

Hitler Mein Kampf:
>But the movement we were successful in placing this problem before the German people in the light of an idea that would unite them in one struggle the Jew reacted. He resorted to his old tactics. With amazing alacrity he hurled the torch of disc0rd into the patriotic movement and opened a rift there. In bringing forward the ultramontane question and in the mutual quarrels that it gave rise to between Catholicism and Protestantism lay the sole possibility, as conditions then were, of occupying public attention with other problems and thus ward off the attack which had been concentrated against Jewry. The men who dragged our people into this controversy can never make amends for the crime they then committed against the nation. Anyhow, the Jew has attained the ends he desired. Catholics and Protestants are fighting with one another to their hearts' content, while the enemy of Aryan humanity and all Christendom is laughing up his sleeve.

>>520999117
I already know that Christians make a pretense of the Truth of Christianity (so piss off to everything else no matter how valid and legitimate they are to our moral integrity in the here and now).
I know that you'd pick New Jewrusalem over your country and your people anyday.

>>520998273
Would any man give me shelter, shine my shoes, oil my feet or give me wine? Would any of you gay faggots love me for who I am regardless of the things that I do or the shit that I say?

No, of course not. Nationalism can only go so far, like all political systems, it is only a precursor to a better world. White people still disagree with eachother, white people still kill each other, white people still hate eachother.

We can't do this thing without God, thinking that we'd all get along because of skin-deep similarity is retarded and dumb

>>520999085
bro, you don't need videos or orthobros, people are right when they say europeans orthodox don't have a clue about religion, it's americans who need to overthink it.
god is love, and love is what it's all about. you go to church to glorify god and meet your neighbours, find your wife, learn how to raise a family. that's what's important it's absolutely not the waste of time but what gives the fundamental meaning to the life.

larping as a nationalist with no roots on various forums will take you nowhere, joining with your family, neighbours, compatriots and fellow christians across the world is what gives you strength

>>520988596 (OP)
trve
the way they just ignore the like manfiest contradictions in who is in communion with who, basic like sacramental theology and stuff is crazy.

As a basic example some of the national Churches think you need to rebaptize protestants and others think you don't. So if either is right one is committing sacreleige by rebaptizing or the other is commiting sacreleige by giving communion to people who aren't baptized.

Another really funny one is confession. They basically just don't have it anymore, and 0 explanation of why you'd actually need to do it because the national Church's would threaten priests families to expose confessions. It was required in the Russian orthodox church to report treason in confession to the government and this was the case for centuries. That's why they don't have that much confession it's literally because they are just compromised.

Another funny one is they've had some national Churches permit abortion in some cases and just nothing happens.

It's only even slightly serious if you just don't know anything about them at all, it's exactly what Catholics would say would happen and their reasons to reject the Pope (despite him being first in honor, they honor him by not being in communion with him I guess) are similarly posthoc and tenuous. The motivations were all political and have nothing to do with theology.

The fact they couldn't have their own council because of some disputes between two national churches about kings bones from 700 years ago is a great example. It's just a complete farce.

>>520999806
oh yeah don't forget the classic introduction book on contraception you just can't make this stuff up it's so obviously silly. And it's from the author that is STILL most recommended as an introduction.

>>520997243
christians are designed to be tools, theyll fight to stay subservient whose freedoms is waning more and more.
>>520974509
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>>520988596 (OP)
Western churches have made it easy for them.
They're all very girly

>>520999671
I refer you back to Cicero >>520997806

"For nothing happens in the world more pleasing to that supreme Deity, who governs all the universe, than those gatherings and unions of men allied by common laws, which are called states. From this place do their rulers and guardians set out, and to this place do they return." -Cicero

I wouldn't say it is virtue if you'd destroy the entire political constitution (which accounts for the well being of the nation) over that, albeit I'm sure you'd make a pretense of Sodom and Gomorrah -- the point notwithstanding that the fruition of our values depends particularly on the fruition of a political constitution as well and Christianity has shown no interest in upholding this but like Rousseau says detracting from it...

This is responsible for Conservatisms inability to really march out of the churches and restore civil society, because Christianity has taught them to absently retreat to the Churches and treat civil society as one big public school and not try any of these aspirations... it has truly separated Church and State and opposed them, like Rousseau says, and that was a tendency from the beginning.

It is no different from Khomeini:
>"We do not worship Iran, we worship Allah. For patriotism is another name for PAGANISM. I say let this land [Iran] burn. I say let this land go up in smoke, provided Islam emerges triumphant in the rest of the world."

Catholicism views it the same way, just like the most low church prot slamming his country in name of Israel.
Video related:
https://files.catbox.moe/6xsv47.mp4

>>520998895
>Wtf orthodox have canonized a monke?
many such cases

>>520999404
>I will judge the religion by its fruits
you did it again. if christianity is true, then it saved millions of souls, so you assume something that you have yet to prove.
>you could say what if islam or judaism is true
thats a pretty stupid hypothetical. its like saying "but what if youre wrong?
>>520999521
but ethno nationalism and christianity isnt contradictory. why do you think the most racist empires where all christian? you can say you want both in real life, and you arent forced to chose between ethnicity and faith.

>>520989841
Yes. Bow down, kangaroo cuck.

>>520988814
Dude you wish your church was controlled by russia. Currently its controlled by your corrupt president for life.

>>520989841
they can't be ethnic clubs because the church promotes universalism.

>>520999806
nonsense
>>521000030
kalistos ware wrote "the orthodox church" in his late 20s while he was still a layman few years after converting, it's in no way most recommended orthodox introduction book

>>521000553
see how they totally avoid actually engaging with any substantial point, orthodoxy is simply running from God or any clarity

>>521000319
They are contradictory and everything we've talked about in this thread points to it.
--Increasingly we are being forced to choose between ethnicity and faith, and it only seemed that way by accident and NOT because of the quality of Christianity itself.

The same with Europe and Catholicism: Most people like Catholicism as a stand-in for Pan-Europeanism, but that's not really true.

Europe and the West are secularisms / temporalisms in Catholicism's view -- they are for Christendom, but Christendom isn't what it once was and today it goes well beyond even EUrope.

It isn't for the West or Europe, but New Jerusalem.

The truth as far as I see it is most people don't believe Christianity is true and use it for secular reasons or because they were born with it and were subscribed by the festivities like Christmas from a young age. If people truly believed in Christianity, they wouldn't be doing these things.

>>520989159
And that golly spirit is Putin. Your church and goverment are same entities. Two halfs of one. Interconnected. Dont even dare to larp that it isnt true.

>>521000522
at least it's not controlled by a guy called dick schoof

>>520999521
also, why is it that some people say that orthodoxy is too ethnic, while others say that you cant be ethnat and a christian. this isnt an orthodox thing, just look at the calvinist afrikaans.
>>521000644
and dont you find it curious that with the rise of secular humanism mass immigration shot up into the stars?

>>520988596 (OP)
Who lets faggots marry?

>>520993919
context?

>>520999779
I never promoted the Orthodox bro thing. I did the opposite. I pretty much agree with you. The whole Orthodox bro scene is an internet cult promoted by the CIA. Jay Dyer is one of those limited hangouts/ controlled opposition figures who ironically is doing the very thing that he exposes.
https://theoriatv.substack.com/p/jay-dyer-and-the-psy-op-to-subvert

god imagine how fun it would be burn Jay Dyer alive, while kicking him in the balls. it wouldn't make a difference, his witch wife can't have kids anyway.

>>520998895
No. You can't canonize a living person in Orthodoxy. These people are wearing cossack hats so they are either retarded to support this kind of heresy or there's more context missing here.

>>521002733
Controlled opposition is no longer possible and the CIA is dead of 4chan.

>>520988596 (OP)
Vladimir Putin has no power over the canons of the ecumenical councils. EO is tempting, but I will stick with the Catholic Church. I have no problem with Orthodox bros.

>>520999671
Exactly, religion matters and that's why Christianity must go.

>>520988596 (OP)
he should debate Peter Dimond.

>>520988596 (OP)
It a coping mechanism so you don't kill yourself for marring the town cumrage like this guy.

>>520996275
Matthew Heimbach is an Orthodox Christian.

>>521001039
More aligned with the reaction to and the very downfall of the 3rd Reich.
Christianity is not doing much to amend it (and even joining in with the secular world in inviting immigrants over).
But ultimately it is Jews.

Lenin murdered the church. Stalin replaced it with KGB. Nothing has changed. The top priests are all billionaires too lol.

>>520994494
>worship kikes
Orthodox curse kikes during Great Friday sermon for killing The Lord Christ

>>521008260
This guy is another weird looking Eastern European sleeper cell type. His job is to encourage battle of the sexes while promoting KGB Christ.

Then there is that fat comedian girl who is allowed to say ANYTHING and is still boosted everywhere. Chicago Rossanne type. There are a lot of these weird looking people who seem 'kind of foreign' but were born here.

>>521012688
KGB Orthodox bless the mass murderers of the Orthodoxy lol.

>>520990249
The dude in OP is a Putinist cringelord watched by moronic Anglos who unironically convert to Orthodoxy.

>>521011424
>resides
The word is actually sojourns, as in passes through or stays for a short while. You knew that though jew.

>>520996871
>galatians 3:28.
>all one in Christ Jesus
Agreed. All nations are one in Christ. That doesn't mean The Church is a monolith. All christians are one in Christ according to their respective nations which God Himself created and kept.

>>520998044
>self-agency
Pride.
Nothing can be done without God ! You wanna change / do something? Go ask God first and if you're denied then there's a very good reason for it - either you're not doing it right, you're not the man for the job or at least not yet, it will be bad for you , it would be bad foe others close to you or loved by God.
>allies
You are not suppose to be judgemental. Ask God for guidance. Don't rely upon yourself for you will fail.
You can't say non-orthodox are bad. That is also pride. You must assess a man according to his deeds as per good samaritan parable otherwise you're just like the pharisee from the parable that claimed to be righteous and faithful but let that guy to die.

>>520998520
Ortodoxy is national. Traditions and Church must and do go hand in hand. Go ask The Holy Martyr Saints of Communist Prisons many of whom were Legionaires if they were orthodox or not. In fact just ask Codreanu. Read about orthodox mystocism of the Iron Guard but I guess you already know that, dont't you kike shill?

>>520998644
>whoever wants to become great among you must be your servant, and whoever wants to be first must be the slave of all.
So the president must be our servant and the politicians out slaves? What a radical idea! Who could have thought of that? Sounds not only very demos kratos - power of the people but also very rex publius - the people is king. Shocking!

>>520999085
>Jay Dye
Try this guy
Fr. Paul Truebenbach
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=nW6Jr38iHdI

>>520999671
>Would any man give me shelter, shine my shoes, oil my feet or give me wine? Would any of you gay faggots love me for who I am regardless of the things that I do or the shit that I say?
Are you the good samaritan? Then you are my close one wrongly translated as neigbour. So yes I will love you and give all that should you require it or at least try to. God recommends me to do that!

>>521000536
>ethnic clubs because the church promotes universalism.
They are National Churches. Universal Faith in National Churches. What is so difficult to understand?

>>521000644
>New Jerusalem.
I think you mean Heaven.
Heaven is not of this world and has many gates according to the Nation - american, romanian and so on, the Status - clergy or layman, married or single, and the Deeds - martyr, saint, devourt or believer of the person that enters.

>>520988596 (OP)
Jay Dyer is a Duganist. He has been a shill for pidorstan for years.

>>521012859
Non sequitur plus cherrypicking.
I was talking about curses not blessings.
Orthodox are required by canon law to pray for the leaders of the country the army and the people so God may open their mind and hearts and enlighten them to do what is right. Dead leader depends on what they did. This is clearly a transgression and the Patriarch will answer to God for it and for all the people that his actions led astray or estranged them from the Church.
How many other National Orthodox Churches did something similar?

>>521015272
I do not want a slave for president.
Maybe a servant with greater knowledge, like a physician.
Not a slave of all.

>>520988596 (OP)
whats with all the mary worship?
any orthos? any catholics wanna explain? with scripture please

>>520988596 (OP)
you're retarded and that's ok anon, but please don't post here anymore.

>>521017849
President is YOUR servant
Politicians are YOUR slaves.
Read again demos kratos and rex publius. Those are very important key concepts.

>>520989453
you lie a lot, why is that anon?

>>520990033
you're spiritually white fren, but your' skin will remain brown. Maybe you'll be white during the resurrection though.

> It’s like an ethnocentric club bro
> but it’s also Greco-Slavic
You guys really have to try harder

>>521000536
Lol In Aus they are, it’s more about being greek then Christian

>>521018041
I do not want my president to be a slave of all kissing rapefugee feet like the pope.
I want a leader with backbone that serves the people, but not a slave of all.
And I will not follow the example to be a slave like him and kiss rapefugee feet.

>>520998642
nobody worships marry except spics who thinks she's some sort of demon goddess. We pray to her, we venerate her, but we do not worship her. Look into Orthodoxy when you have time.

I guess we should really be calling Christ not the King of Kings or the Lord of Lords, but the Slave of Slaves.

>>521018179
>You guys really have to try harder
American Orthodoxy - look it up.
Just bc rugby is mostly played in the Commonwealth doesn't mean americans or romanians for that matter can't play or have their own championships. Or like baseball. Is it Ameeican ? Sure. Do other play it? Yes. Japan also plays and likes it.

>>520988596 (OP)
when is he going to debate Gay Dyer?

>>521018306
>president to be a slave
You're arguing in bad faith/pilpuling.
President - YOUR servant
Not "slave" and not "a"
Politicians - YOUR slaves
Not "a" slave.
That means YOU have command over them and hold them accountable should that be the case - the very essence of democracy and republic.

>>520998642
>worship
Most Honor
NOT worship

>>520988596 (OP)
Only people born in dysfunctional orthocuck societies realize what a meme religion it is. You literally follow old gay men in robes who have turf wars over ecclesiastical real estate. The dumpster fire that is the Catholic Church doesn’t even come close to the utter depravity and dysfunction that the Orthodox churches have. It’s a brown middle eastern religion followed out of pride and vanity. The true purpose of religion is to tell the truth. Ortho idiots don’t care about the truth. They all know it’s all bullshit but they will eat it regardless. They value pride over truth. That is why they will never be white.

>>520988596 (OP)
Our Church has nothing to do with Russia you dumb angloid lmao.
Westshits cannot comprehend NOT having a religious Kang to lick his balls like the pope.

>>520988596 (OP)
>>521008260
Western Orthodox converts are goofy.

>>520989841
And that's a good thing, Serbo-Greek alliance will last forever.

>>521019423
I grew up presbyterian, which was more about religious education and application to day to day life as opposed to all the weird stuff that Catholics and Orthodox do. Dry services, but you learn a lot.

>>521000536
It does not. It's just a bullshit cope so westshits dont bomb the shit out of us for muh racism, in reality our church fathers will literally call you a fucking traitor if you marry a non-orthodox or will outright deny you a ceremony because of it, many other cases too. AS IT SHOULD BE.

>>521019423
As compared to your "church" sucking the cock of a pope who allows faggots and promotes globohomo ideas. Atleast our religion promotes nationalism you cuck shit.
And btw we have Holy Monks who isolate themself on Temple Mount and actually devote their lives to prayer, unlike your kind.

>>521018670
Yeah. Orthodox Church of America. I went to one once and it was a mix of people there. I enjoyed the liturgy.

>>521000536
Right. It’s called phyletism in orthodoxy. It is a heresy.

>>521020745
Seethe troon, our Church is made for serbs and serbs only.

>>520989841
>THOSE ORTHODOX CHRISTKEKS ARE…. (checks notes)… ethnonationalists?
really not doing a great job making me hate them, this isnt reddit