Thread 521053320

i find it hard to believe we can even go to space it seems utterly fucking insane and weird there is not massive funding from every nation on the earth to travel the stars my IQ is usually like 115 the only reason i can figure is they already have massive colonies in space and theyre not telling us or its all a lie, Like step back and ask what the fuck for a moment they went to the moon in the fucking 60s

>>521053320 (OP)
we will never leave the solar system
ever
the distance to the moon and planets is nothing compared to the distance to stars

Space travel isn't very economical yet. You could spend a trillion dollars on it every year but it wouldn't really gain you anything, at least not for a long time, and meanwhile we've got a ton of other problems to deal with.

>>521053320 (OP)
>they went to the moon in the fucking 60s
they didnt went to the moon at all.
Look, the jew got a budget of over 20 billion dollars for the Apollo programm.
Now why would the jew spend this money on real missions when they can just fake them for 100 million and then pocket the rest?
gullible goys will believe anything the jew media says so its not difficult to shill.
and thats why the moon landings were faked, for a jew the opportunity to steal 20 billion is just too big.
thats why nobody is going to space.

>>521053320 (OP)
Space isn't real

>>521053320 (OP)
Yeah i realized humans have never been to space a few weeks ago
Not enough evidence
Did u hear the space suits are hand sewn kek….. the seams would burst once u left the rocket or vessel or whatever
Its all a hoax i think
For sure bezos’ whore and katy perry didnt actually go to space either but thats a whole other thing

>>521053447
>Space travel isn't very economical yet
there are so many people with infinite money you're telling me they just cant be fucked

>>521053320 (OP)
>we can even go to space
whos we?
3 countries have manned spacecrafts as of now: US, Russia, China

Millions die yearly due to motor vehicle collisiom despite immense safety regulations and precautions… how the fuck do humans come back from outer space and survive the landing lmao it just doesnt make any sense if u think about it

>>521053567
Nobody has infinite money. And I begrudgingly accept that infinite is just hyperbole meaning a lot of money but even for the richest man in the world space travel is very costly which is why his ventures in it depend upon government funding.

>>521053665
>Nobody has infinite money
are you fucking kidding me we have the biggest slave class in human history

>>521053708
So what? Big doesn't mean infinite. And you've personally done almost nothing to fund any space program.

> weird there is not massive funding from every nation on the earth to travel the stars
Every nation that can, is.

No idea what you're on about, but pretty much every country is trying to shoot satellites into space at the moment knowing that the Chinese and USA are going to start a space war in the coming years. India is on the moon, North Koreans are going up, Iranians are launching shit, even Australia has pissed away hundreds of millions trying to set up the Australian Space Agency. Its standard doctrine now that the armed forces of every country needs land forces, naval forces, air forces, cyber forces and now space forces to be anywhere near effective or be a deterrent.

You even have all those billionaire's companies doing private launches to try land that sweet sweet military industrial complex money.

>>521053320 (OP)
You are never ever leaving this enclosed plane alive you retarded golem. CGI is all you get in this life, which is more than you deserve anyway.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJK1gLHbOxA&t=1136s

>>521053320 (OP)
>go to space
>go to
you're in space.
you're never not in space.

>>521053474
indeed, we live in an enclosed realm. go to the back of the line, you get to go in last!

>>521053833
>Every nation that can, is.
it doesn't feel like it at all it feels as distant as it was 50 years ago, 50 fucking years flying to the moon should be as easy as flying to japan by now

>>521053320 (OP)
I think it's just cheaper to send robots. But I agree with you. Figuring out how to terraform mars, probe unexplored areas, and mine asteroids seems like it should be our top priority.

>>521053320 (OP)
Earth is not a ball in space, Anon.

>>521053320 (OP)
There is no space that satanic kosher native tal.udoc scottish ritepedo Fred Klein hrxt and the fifth columnists that cannibalized christ struck bakc in 1994 sars 1 hoax sars 2 hoax get a job stripped club pawn shop loan shark thats not productive hilter was right

>>521054034
>Terraform mars
this is such a low IQ meme.

>>521053320 (OP)
Keeping someone alive in space is extremely expensive which is why there are only a few people on the ISS and they are only there to do scientific work that can't be one on earth. There is no reason for anyone else to go to space. The Moon landings were about resolving a dick measuring contest.

>>521054013
But why? Why would we want or need commercial flights to the moon? These things don't just happen, there needs to be some kind of demand

>>521053320 (OP)
If your IQ was higher you would understand space as we know it is science fiction. The earth is encased in a dome and above the dome is water

Exploration is a white person thing
White climbed Everest landed on the moon went to the north and south poles
Hell the other races dont even enjoy hiking on the side

The only reason why Indians and Chinese have just now joined is a flex

>>521055713
there seems to be quite a few people willing to spend 6 figures for a quick flight above 100km altitude but obviously a lunar flight is going to be way more expensive so filling the seats would be harder. if the cost can be lowered im sure we'll see those kinds of flights available before too long.

who wouldn't want to even just be in lunar orbit for a while to see it up close?

>>521053833
isnt it funny how we devote so much time and so many resources to building bigger and bigger guns to point at each other. and some people think we aren't animals.

>>521053320 (OP)
They don't want us leaving the slaughterhouse.

>>521053320 (OP)
People who believe in space exploration pseudoscience are mentally ill. It's a big secret society lie, perpetuated by peer pressure and blind faith.

Relatively Speaking
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIyGmw2iM1I

Middle Ground
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O_7XkneVE7Y&list=PLoeKBeKeoPx5quWw74GYIJjVQY4hAxbkf

Schooling Globers - Episode 34 (The Core of the Globe Belief)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lTIFsHH5i6U

>>521057536
you are mentally ill

captcha J00TD

>>521057769
Coming from the person who took experimental zero liability vaccines.
You use the same intellectual dishonesty to formulate your understanding of space exploration. You people have a fear of rejection (personality disorder). That's why you tuck tail and conform to the status quo, even if you are defending lies.

The flat earthers are right, space is fake and gay.

The earth is a flat and stationary plane.

>>521057869
>instant attempt to associate his retarded flat earth crap with being against the vaxx, as usual. No, flerf shill, you will not succeed in making anti-vaxxers look like retards.

>>521053320 (OP)
Why do you want to go to literally empty, pointless, deadly space?
Colonisation needs a good reason, we never bothered with the antarctics either simply due to it lacking real value.

>>521053320 (OP)

Mongrel-Theist-Bigots wont let you know the truth, because you would destroy them if you knew what they did.

Whatever it was, it was condemned by the Kingdom-of-God (K.O.G.),

The KOG evacuated all key personnel, and the contaminted/compromised-ones were given the Holy-Spirit extraction option through Jesus..

its apparently scheduled for extermination, get-out while you still-can, the window is shrinking, at some-point it closes.

>>521053447
>Space travel isn't very economical yet.
How much does it cost when you can power your money printing machine with space energy? That's the only real economic question and it's hardly worth the time

>>521053438
>>521058081
The reality of scale and time is one reason going to space is largely pointless. It would take what, 7 to 9 months? To get a few people there? For what? An inhospitable atmosphere and land with no useful resources? And then what? Go to other planets? Why? We can't even have our probes survive on the surfaces without being crushed. If they even have surfaces. And then what? We are so insanely far away from any other star we will never reach it and everything is moving away from each other so fast we'll never reach anything outside of our local supercluster at even FtL speed. A d even then: for what? At best I see the space program as a good incentive to develop advanced robotics and engineering projects and that's it.

>>521058071
I can smell the mRNA off of you through the internet. It's so easy to spot you subhumans. Your behavior gives it all away.
Go learn your space pseudoscience before you expect to discuss it.
None of you even know how many wobbles the globe model has.

>>521053471
Good point

>>521053665
Where does money come from retard, it's not a finite resource like coal or metal ore.

>>521058509
your mom has plenty of wobbles

>>521058071
you're doing a great job of proving his point sweety.

>>521058498
Precisely, maybe the occasional opportunism by intercepting what comes our way (if ever feasible).

>>521053320 (OP)
There is literally nothing to be gained from traveling to desolate, inhospitable planets which is all there is in our solar system. And forget traveling beyond that. Everything outside of earth is designed to kill you. The furthest a man-made object has ever gone is Voyager 1, having left the solar system in 2012 after 35 years and won’t even escape the Oort Cloud for thousands more. If voyager 1 was a manned mission to the nearest earth-like planet that would be 73,000 years. Space autists need to STFU about the “lack of funding” for NASA and go back to watching Star Trek.

>>521058746
you're doing a great job of obviously changing your IP, you shit brained flat earth shill

>>521058709
See, you can't even name how many there are.
Don't' forget, once you learn them all, you still have to explain how and why they constitute empirical evidence for your magic ball.
It's endless entertainment seeing people basic critical thinking in life.

>>521058905
stupid nigger

We have an atmospheric pressure that anyone can measure themselves. You don't have to trust anyone on the numbers. We have to be in an enclosed vessel to have that pressure. A non enclosed atmosphere being a tiny speck in a giant endless (10TOR) vacuum just can't work.

We live in a snowglobe and for whatever reason, the rulers of the world decided we can't or shouldn't know this fact. The simple answer is; if you remove the chaos, randomness and infinite time required for the space story, you are left with something created by an intelligent mind for a specific purpose and they don't want that to be.

I want an astronaut GF

>>521058981
Go learn your ball evidence.
Model references, assumed calculations, and unproven theories don't count.

>>521058981
Your posts getting lame, Mr Agent. Are you tired of your job?

>>521053320 (OP)
I'm starting to believe that most of the people in positions of influence in the world just aren't very intelligent, creative, or ambitious. If you have a good idea that has a CHANCE of improving the world, it's probably your duty to give it a decent effort.

Japans April 2023 fake lander looks like the back of a sega CD box. Complete with a green screen from the ISS.

>>521058886
lol I changed nothing, my phone changes its ip randomly on its own. you can add computing science to your list of fucked in the head things you think you know.

>>521053320 (OP)
ALL OF THE MONEY (value) that Gen Y was projected to touch over the course of their entire lives has already been sent/spent off-planet (whatever that really means), never to return. We already paid for the intergalactic fleet secret space program.
We will reap nothing, because ALL of surface population is not just obsolete but compromised biolgically. Our value is as tainted livestock for eating and the curiosity of fucking your way into the body of Christ.

>>521058886
You are suffering from massive cognitive dissonance. It's affecting your life. Go learn your glove evidence so you can actually discuss it.

>>521053320 (OP)
>it’s all a lie.
Looks like you can understand

>>521058824
>There is literally nothing to be gained
free energy, zero cost electric
this alone would reshape most of the world for the better after the initial shockwaves.
That's a huge thing to grasp, since they could use it to reshape planets eventually.
>>521059371
>because ALL of surface population
everyone is scared of the possibilities, I don't blame people because for us everything has always been to good to be true.

>>521059181
The majority of the satanic (silent) families have great reasons to be hostile to making the lives of proles better. It is the minority of black sheep like say musk that step out.
It is also readily apparent that the globohomo working group lost access to the good quantum programs for playbooking their top down command structure.

>>521059843
>free energy, zero cost electric
What are you even talking about? Dyson Spheres? We can't make those, we aren't at that stage.

>>521059324
just so long as we're clear that your IP is changing.

>>521059423
you're too stupid to understand anything that you learn.

>>521059843
free energy, zero cost electric
1. How does a space program develop or guarantee either of those? 2. Why don't we just work on that here on earth without the space program?

>>521060066
Mindless insults won't help you understand your globe believe.
Go learn your glove evidence vaxmutt.

>>521060038
nta
There is more electric energy in the atmosphere than we could ever use, Anon. It can be just collected, there's no need to "produce" electricity.

>>521060204
what do you think you know retard?

>>521053320 (OP)
Human body's cannot survive long distance space travel to a neighboring planet let alone a trip outside our solar system

>>521053320 (OP)
The answer to the question is right there in your picture. See the Earth? It's IN SPACE. We're already in space. "Space travel" just means spending insane amounts of money to go to other, generally shittier, parts of space. We already found the best part of space.

>>521060327
go on then and collect it to prove your in incredible discovery

>>521060132
>1. How does a space program develop or guarantee either of those?
space is filled with energy that only needs to be brought to a point and beamed down to the surface, that's the minimum level of understanding here.
1: you have to at least be able to accept that is a possibility and that there are endless possibilities beyond that.

>>521053447
But is is, shipping cost are 1200 a pound. That is viable for construction. Musk dumb company is making money

>>521060384
Let's start with what you don't know.
Go learn how many wobbles the globe has. You can even pretend to guess, but you'll still have to defend why it's empirical evidence.

And I also know you took your experimental vaccines on blind faith. You never bothered to learn what zero liability was, or how you can refuse for lack of informed consent.
You did it to yourself.

>>521060132
1. Non-Jewish physics
2. Nothing can be made secret here, the production facilities for the modern equipment are plainly not here and certainly not employing millenials. Why wouldn't the modern production facilities be in a microgravity environment, and also in a safe pocket dimension.

>>521060526
Kek

>>521060500
why dont you quit waffling about your wobbles and actually say something? can you do that? why dont you educate us dumb globers with your amazing facts?

>>521058597
The moon is controversial, but I think it's pretty well documented that the trip to Oz was entirely fabricated, or at the very least exaggerated. The lion was just the roasty's cat, and the tin man was her vibrator.

>>521060614
Mindless deflection doesn't work. If you expect people to believe in your magic ball, you have to be able to state empirical evidence for it.
Until you take responsibility for this you will just be laughed at until the day you clot up.

>>521060526
you know, what you moonhoax faggots can never attempt is to explain why the AGC wasn't able to do its job. You've no idea how it worked or what it did so you just throw out these stupid memes.

>>521059009
>Have to be in enclosed vessel to have pressure
No you don't. Hydrostatic pressure applies to gases as well
There is a significant pressure difference between surface level and mountains

>>521060614
Mmm waffles. brb

>>521060677
Appeal to authority fallacy.
Begging the question fallacy.
Poisoning the well fallacy.

Go learn your globe evidence. Your posts reek of low self esteem and fear of rejection.

>>521060674
so you wont even explain what you mean when you keep talking about your wobbles? even though you post it in all of these threads? what a fucking prick you are flerf shill. pathetic.

>>521060794
lol. like i said, you have no clue.

>>521053320 (OP)
>i find it hard to believe we can even go to space it seems utterly fucking insane and weird there is not massive funding from every nation on the earth to travel the stars
I don't know why that would seem insane. Whatever resources are up there are extremely difficult to extract, which makes it difficult to make profitable, which drives boring businessmen to just make their Earth-based extraction more efficient. We do launch plenty of stuff into space, but almost all of it is to orbit, where it can directly affect Earth and create revenue streams thereby.

Space is too big to be conquered in the age of the merchant.

>>521060677
If you want to be taken seriously you have to use intellectual honestly. Fallacies and insults are not "empirical evidence" for your globe belief.

>>521060794
>Talks about fallacies while spamming bad faith arguements
That's why your threads get banned-you act like niggers, and therefore get treated like niggera

>>521060869
>still has nothing of value to say about his wobbles
you seem scared of discussion.

>>521060813
I already did. You don't know how many wobbles the globe has. YOu need to know this to explain how and why it constitues empirical evidence.

If you told me a bike exists, but you didn't know how many wheels were on a bike, your argument is worthless.
Maybe I should downgrade the question to how many seasons there are. Do you know how many seasons there are?
>>521060843
more mindless deflection to avoid taking accountability for your pseudoscience belief system.

>>521060938
they really do. they spam the same shit for years on end and then do everything they can to evade actually talking about anything. fuckers should be banned forever.

>>521060940
Youy're the one who can't answer how many wobbles there are. You won't even go on google to learn them. You could do this in 60 seconds.
I love seeing you people struggle. You should have learned critical thinking early in life. It's drastically affecting your ability to communicate in discussions.

>>521060992
so tell me about these wobbles. can you do that?

can you tell me why the apollo guidance computer wasn't powerful enough to do its job?

im guessing no on both counts.

>>521061083
you should just start talking about them and we can go from there.

>>521061142
im asking YOU to talk about whatever you think you mean by 'wobbles'. will you do that or not? if not then you should really just fuck off.

>>521053320 (OP)
"they" already went to space, they have had what is essentially FTL (in practice) for decades, since the 1950's at least. They found or encountered something out there they don't want us to know about, I don't know what it is.

>>521053320 (OP)
Newsflash gotta another 2 million mph just fake moon rock in the atoms on local news remidner according to fake science aka jewosh pseudo science and masonic freemaosbic judeo freeemaosnic asswipe they went to narnia a d magically die jot get by the 2 million mph projectiles all 1 to 3 million a day or whatever lie they come up woth space is not rwal there is a vault its shooting stars and psyops fake moon rocks scottosh kike chabdnik amd Newton and poloniuk asshoel admitting yelstin told the truth space ia fake your president fuck babies imbred pedo shit pigs

>>521053320 (OP)
We can only get a few hundred miles up, it's nothing impressive. It's impossible for humans to travel very far into space, even knocking around our solar system takes a horrific toll on the human body and mind.

>>521061202
The point was made. You don't know your globe model. You believe it on blind faith.
If you don't want to go learn how many wobbles there are, you can't be helped.

You can lead a horse to water, but you can't pull a donkey out of a booster line.

>>521061202
I think he's talking about precession, nutation and Chandler movement.
All three are relatively well understood and have tons of evidence supporting it. They aren't widely talked about because layman doesn't need them. The only reason I know is because I had to take earth physics in college

>>521061459
>no, i wont talk about my own points at all
time for you to fuck off you shitty boring troll.

>>521053320 (OP)
The physics of the problem makes it unsolvable. Who is willing to be cryogenically frozen for 30,000 years on a space ship sent to some neighboring star only to wake up and then die in space? The distances are too large and the human lifespan is not long enough.

>>521061505
yeah i get what he's waffling on about because its just his long form version of those stupid meme pics showing spirals and stuff that they dont understand. was just demonstrating that these flat earth fucks cant even discuss the things they bring up. same thing every time.

>>521061459
Kek that pic

>>521060469
So imaginary space energy schizo fantasy and you have no clue but some vague hurr durr you gotta believe! Got it.

>>521053320 (OP)
I’ve been playing kerbal space program again, building a space station

>>521053320 (OP)
You can get in a car in America and drive a thousand miles a day.

Space is literally just 65 miles up.

Of course they've already colonized the Moon

>>521053474
what are those lights in the sky yeshua?

>>521053320 (OP)
Let my 138 IQ tell you that spaceships are not made from money. You can throw funding at the problem until the presses glow white hot, it's not going to make any difference.

First, we need a long-lasting powerful energy source. With a constant thrust of just 1g, you can reach relativistic speeds in less than a year. With something that can deliver constant thrust for a decade or two, we could send probes to the neighboring stars, have them collect samples there and bring the samples back to earth. In just that much time.
Deliver those energy sources and engines, then we can talk. Keep your money, it's worthless.

>>521059140
>in space you need running shoes
I know they say you need to exercise but wait just a goddamm minute this is like fucking product placement

>>521059274
Saved.

>>521053584
>3 biggest liar countries full of jews are the only ones who have "gone to space"
What a weird (((coincidence)))

>>521062601
i dont know but maybe population and economic size have some role to play in expensive technological projects that require a huge industrial base. just a thought.

>>521060449
It's actually not so difficult...
but all people who do it "die suddenly".

>>521062762
you mean they get struck by lightening

>>521060631
To be fair, it would make sense for them to have quick access to the cables instead of hiding them behind the wall or something.

>>521062762
Yeah trying to put lightning in a bottle will do that to a motherfucker.

>>521062690
People don't understand what a colossal waste of resources spaceflight is. The only part of the industry that has found a way to actually be useful is near-earth satellite data.

>>521062929
everything you see there is part of individual astronauts equipment. their laptops and whatever stuff they need for their work projects up there etc. thats the area where they install all that gear for the duration of their mission and gets packed away when they leave.

>>521060631
I would.

>>521063010
i dont think its a waste though. there are much much larger actual wastes committed every day with nothing of value to show for it, not even the pride of having flown to the moon and back.

>>521060327
"No, that wasn't an energy collector, silly...they made this massive copper roofs just for decoration..."

>>521063346
couldnt be because its lighter than lead, lasts a long long time and also gains a nice color over time...no, that would be to simple and obvious.

>>521053438
Because of niggers.
Empathy is the great filter.

>>521063093
Depends who you're asking. If you're asking people in general, I think all of us see the immense value of climbing onto the last frontier. If you're talking to a guy in an office with a spreadsheet, it's just beyond what the spreadsheet allows him to imagine.

>>521063424
Yeah, it's about the color...
Thank you Mr. 3letteragent for your insight.

>>521063540
and if you're asking a nigger he just hates that he can't feed his children but whiteys on da moon

>>521063632
Yeah true...they'll literally protest to say so.

>>521063580
you can tell how much a retarded shill this anon is by the way he ignores 2/3rds of what is said in favor of reeing about aesthetics.

>>521063346
>Space if fake
>But this schizo theory about copper roofs being energy collectors without any source or demonstration of mechanism of action is definitely the truth

>>521063683
The shills are designed to be silly anon

>>521063750
very true. they want to look as retarded and ignorant as possible.

>>521053320 (OP)
>we forgot the how to do it!
>the tech isn’t there yet!
>it’s too expensive!
>itll take too long!

There’s always a huge cope for things that apparently happened in the fucking 60s. Double that with all of the fake rover footage with fucking regular animals in them and images of a globe that always seems to change for no discernible reason it’s safe to say that something very fishy is up with the entire concept of space and what our perception of it and our place within it really is and means.

>>521063750
You posted a fake one. Don't worry, happens.
Here's the real one.

>>521063093
I agree that there is a lot of waste. But space colonization? Do you have any idea how much resources that requires? You cannot just bring the resources up from Earth with chemical rockets. To make the whole thing economically viable later on, you would have to mine, refine, process, manufacture everything required for your space colonization in space. And you can't just grow the industries naturally through neoliberal invisible hands or whatever, because there is no demand for raw ores or raw processed metals or microchips or whatever in space before you build that demand yourself. You have to build everything, the whole supply chain, at once, from scratch. Produce millions of separate parts. Lots of non-trivial problems.

>>521060526
>>521060794
moon landing was broadcast live in the 60s, like no way it happend, they dont have the teachnolgy for that at that time.

>>521053320 (OP)
My IQ is very high, so high, I won't give you a number, but it's extremely high; believe me. Anyway, space israel but we still haven't even bean to the moon yet. Not really. What they, and by they I mean jews, don't want you to know is that the stars are in the atmosphere, or the firmofmen whatever, and once you get to space it's nothing but blackness. My theory is space niggers stole the light. That's why there's no stars in the pictures ya dig? But the most important thing to remember is this really doesn't affect your shitty life whatsoever, so who cares? It's not like you're going to space or paying taxes, right?

>>521063948
But it's true. The important question is not "is earth flat", the important question is "is earth real". Flat earthers exist to distract you from that question.

>we went to the moon with less technology than whats in your phone!
>no one is using their phone to fly to the moon

>>521063862
But that's not stopping them from soaking up salaries on the taxpayer dime.

>>521064046
im not really one for talking about colonizing space. its beyond us now and for a long time. i just like exploration projects with maybe some research bases on mars or whatever. thats doable.

>>521053447
you space fetishists always make me laugh with your delusions
https://files.catbox.moe/jext87.webm

>>521064179
Even if it's simulated the matrix is flat or a globe.

>>521053320 (OP)
Gotta feed dem keeds

>>521058498
We'll have to transfer to Jupiter's moons or something along those lines as the sun is going to go into the red giant phase and swallow up Earth. And if nothing in the solar system becomes capable of supporting life then humans will have to figure out how to float on life boats in space with internal agriculture. We have 500 million years or so to solve these problems though.

>>521053320 (OP)
It's an enclosed system Anon. This was widely known before ww2. This has massive implacation on the worlds psyche as now we're all insignificant in a ever expanding ocean of supposedly nothingness.

>>521064896
>picrel

>>521064864
Life can probably survive longer than 500 million years. Traditional plant life can not. When Earth warms up more, not even much, just one or two dozen degrees or so, the crust binds all atmospheric carbon dioxide and all the currently existing plants go extinct. That's a problem.

>>521059073
>Go learn your ball evidence.
Flat earthers never have an answer for how different constellations are visible from the north and south poles. This is impossible on a flat earth.

>>521064864
Will we have the definitive picture of the earth by then? It keeps changing so much I just can’t contain my excitement for what’s next.

>>521065184
>different constellations are visible from the north and south poles
I'm sure you can prove that.
Oh, you have videos of it? Cute :)

>>521065184
Flatearthers never demonstrated moon shrinking during the 24 hour cycle

>>521065341
>denying reality

>>521060869
>flat earth spastic
>telling others to be intellectually honest

>>521059041
zero g sexy

>>521065386
Yeah, you globers are denying reality, good insight.

>>521065649
Lol, lmao. Why does moon move in 24 hour cycles?

>>521065914
jews

>>521065914
This way Anon.

>>521065914
Guess why - it was created this way by the creator. Duh.

>>521053438
My FTL space fabric folding drive begs to differ.
>Relying on mainstream products
Ngmi

>>521066119
Why does it not shrink visually through the 24 hour cycle, if its moving away?

>>521053447
All those problems can be solved by ust leaving (the Jews behind)

>>521058498
At the beggining it took spaniards 3 months to get to the New World each travel

>>521066572
What an absurd comparison.

>>521065341
Nice comeback retard. You're claiming every photo ever taken and every single star map going back hundreds of years is fake in support of the globe "conspiracy?" Being this moronic does you no favors. How about you go on social media and find a flat earth Aussie who is willing to face time with you and compare what the night sky looks like?

That's not the only piece of evidence of course. Flat earther mental gymnastics about how it can be night and day on opposite halves of the earth are hilarious.
>>521065195
There are plenty. But you'll call them all fake and claim CGI or composites or fish eye lenses. Just because those things do exist does not mean every single photo of the Earth from space is fake.

>>521062601
>Glorious binland can't into space therefore it's fake
>>521064046
Space is self-sustaining after a certain point. It needs a push, it's own "cash crop" to get the ball rolling.
There are several options. Manufacturing that requires 0g, raw resources, energy and military. Let's focus on later.
Earth based resources get more expensive while launch costs get cheaper. At some point it becomes economical viable to mine some resources in space. You sloqly start building up infrastructure. The more infrastructure you have the cheaper mining becomes. You can even use it to send stuff to earth. Say, it isn't viable to set up space mines for aluminium but if you set it up for in situ use you can start sending some down.
Eventually you have a sizeable population there and it gets self sustaining

>>521063750
The surface of water is perfectly straight and horizontal, and 3 dimensional perspective is a thing in 3 dimensional reality. These are facts of our objective physical world, whether you like it or not doesn't matter.

>>521068004
>Surface of water is straight and horizontal
No it's not. The fact that different seas have different levels actually matters a lot in geonavigation, as different countries use different water bodies as reference points. We use baltic sea, burgers use Gulf of Mexico, etc.

>>521060843
Can you explain the image that you replied to?

>>521068436
does it need any explanation, really? come on be serious. i refuse to believe this board is that retarded.

>>521057731
You dropped the ball wasit. The Antarctica trip revealed your grift and/or your complacency.
Either way, you lost.

>>521053320 (OP)
Literally it was just for show during the red scare era, after that amerimutts didn't give a fuck about space.. only when another threat of a major superpowers come in do they give two shots about muh space travel . That by the way China is beating you guys. China is the next superpower after bum psychotic usa.

>>521061691
Endless entertainment!

>>521061544
You nsound like you're at the end of a 14 hour meltdown from yesterday.
Its your fault for coming in here and not understanding globe evidence.
Then you got called out for being vaccinated, using the same blind faith that you took to believe in space exploration.

>>521063750
>glownigger is a chad
lmao lost by default, how stupid are these people

>>521068690
Thats a dumb donkey argument. Everyone there was a secret society member. Dave Mciggan too. Blowing secret society members isn't a good start for someone like you. You already have a fear or rejection in life.
And you still need to prove with empirical evidence.

You can't prove the core, the curve, the vacuum, the 24hr sun (it's not independently testable), and you don't even know how many wobbles the globe has. Literally.

You are 100% vaccinated too. You used the same blind faith for both belief system.

>>521068553
You took the time to write that rather than easily explain it, why?

>>521069858
>Prove the core
It's existence is proven by wave behaviour
>Curve
Easily provable with boats
>24 hour sun
Lmao just get in contact with people from multiple time zones
>Wobble
Why are you autistically fixated on it.

>>521053665
Banks with 0% reserve requirement have infinite money to loan out.

>>521070293
No it's not. The temperature was wrong the entire time. Model references and assumptions don't count as empirical evidence.

"boats" don't prove anything. You're using a perspective error and trying to claim it counts as empirical evidence.

See, you don't know how many wobbles there are. This is why you people suffer trying to "prove" the magic masonic globe.

I'm so glad people like you got vaccinated.

>>521070293
And regarding the sun, the time zones are not even from northern to southern It's suppose to be a ball.
The fact that you would try that argument just shows how little you know about your "globe evidence".
Go learn how many wobbles there are vaxmutt.

>>521070547
>wobbles
>>521070720
>wobbles
the only thing that wobbles is your head, shitjeet

>>521070816
See, none of you even know. Isn't that amazing.
Your brains are so afraid to learn things that you won't even learn your own globe evidence.
Your God is peer pressure and blind faith.

>>521070949
SARRR THE EARTH IS FLAT SARR

>>521070547
>Temperature was wrong
Core model is proven by path of wave travel, not temperature
>Perspective error
Not how perspective works. Things don't vanish by part when they get further away
>Wobbles
A) yes I do. Precession, Nutation and Chandler wobbles.
B) average layman has no meed to know them. It's a niche thing, only geologists, physicists and astronomers know it
>>521070720
>Time zones are not even northern to southern It's supposed to be a ball
Wat?

>>521053320 (OP)
To all the "space isn't real" faggots I implore you to get a telescope, and not a shitty child one either. An 8 inch or above Dobsonian would suffice. It's a humbling experience when you see the Gas Giants for the first time.

>>521053320 (OP)
What if when americans went to the moon, people from long ago already colonized it from like sumerian times, hence the tower of babel, and then when they got there they have doomsday weapons and now just hold the world at bay by making missions to the moon top secret and under the highest classification.

It would be like gundam but with no gundams just terraforming weapons.

Threadly reminder that we are not allowed to go to space in any meaningful way because the Jews would lose control over our de-evolution.

The Jews would rather rule a nigger-cattle feedlot than share the Universe.
This is the Great Filter.

>>521071138
it could be jews are a space faring race of slavers that colonize planets and make the peoples nigger cattle.

>>521053474
"Space is fake" is a Jewish psyop to hide the fact that everyone is subhuman compared to Von Braun and his Nazis, and this situation is getting worse with every generation, thanks to dysgenic social engineering by Jews and their Anglo shabbos goys.

>>521069858
>muh wobbles n sheet
I don't need any of that gay shit, I have the triangle of truth.
Globe believers cannot solve this triangle, because they don't know their own cult.

>>521056510
Yes. We have (or had) Faustian spirit. Much of that has now been lost at NASA.

>>521057536
Space is real and is a much better use of money than endless bailouts, wars for Israel, and gibs for subhumans like you, Poopeesh.

>>521058081
To escape from Jews and their turd world pets. To live in an environment that demands K selection instead of r selection.

>>521053320 (OP)
Because it's largely not profitable and as far as we know most of space is cold and dead and unlivable so why would we spend our resources trying to go there rather than just staying on the planet that is the only known habitable place in the universe? Why would a country spend money on space rather than education or military or infrastructure? The only profit to come from space so far has been satellites which is why 99% of rocket launches are to deploy them.

>>521053320 (OP)
There's no funding because:

- There's no way to bring resources from space to Earth.
- There's no organic resources in space which would make an independent outpost possible or meaningful (no oil, no wood/coal)
- Human health deteriorates rapidly in zero gravity. Astronauts returning from space after lengthy missions need rehab like disabled/traumatised people.
- Reproduction is nigh impossible. And even with artificial conception, fetus is very likely to develop incorrectly in zero gravity.
- Space stations need constant resource deliveries from Earth and maintenance/repairs, because even pebbles in space are basically bullets.

Right now, space is just a big tourist attraction, when it comes to human travel. There's literally nothing else to do there.

>>521065184
>>521065350
these two specific "FE never answer x and never prove y" are addressed in every single FE thread. you're both full of shit

>>521069435
you dont know anything other than your boring shill script

>>521070191
because its too retarded to deserve a serious explanation. ify ou find that you need one then you're retarded too.

>>521053320 (OP)
The aliens won't let us leave until we deals with the jews and browns. They have strict policies about invasive species.

>>521053320 (OP)
They would rather spend trillions on welfare for negros instead of a penny on developing space tech

>>521053474
YOU'RE Isntreal

>>521072839
>Reproduction is nigh impossible. And even with artificial conception, fetus is very likely to develop incorrectly in zero gravity.
Just wait for the chinks to actually experiment on that and prove you wrong

>>521053320 (OP)
Kikes killed all the brilliant minds in Germany WW2. Whatever paperclip ones they got were probably second rate. Had USA and Russia refrained from attacking Germany, we would have been a 1000 years ahed in tech and gone so much further into the stars.

>>521071036
>>521071707
Both of you get so triggered when asked to name how many wobbles has on your own globe model.
Blind faithbelief systems don't count as empirical evidence.

Do you two know how many seasons there are? I'll give you a clue. It's a number between 1 and 5. If you are too dumbed down to learn your wobbles, you can start with seasons.

>>521073258
You too. If you are too scared to learn your own globe model, don't expect people to believe you when you can't even offer empirical evidence.
Low self esteem and fallacies don't count.

>>521074493
imagine being such a disgusting slimy shill like you are. nasty.

>>521071707
Didn't mean to include you in that link haha
Ballers are on total suicide watch.

>>521074567
mindless insults don't going. Go learn your globe model.

>>521074660
ive asked you for hours to educate me but you dont want to. you dont want to talk about anything you post. you just want to dance around like the shilling little faggot you are.

>>521074750
This started with you insulting people and me calling you out for not knowing your globe model.
People who believe in the globe and don't know their "evidence" for it are subhuman and vaccinated. Just like you.
Your greatest accomplishment in life is that of a cognitive dissonance statistic.

Go learn how many wobbles the globe model has.

>>521075859
no. it started with you posting a load of bullshit and then refusing with all of your might to ever discuss any of it or explain what you're going on about.
why wont you talk about any of it?

>>521053320 (OP)
Anyone rich or in a position of power is a nihilist. That's what happens to you when you build your entire life on manipulating and exploiting people. They don't care about anything you care about. Their minds are optimized only for one activity.

>>521075954
You are a lying sack of shit subhuman.
See... >>521058509
There you are not knowing your wobbles and getting unglued.
I am so happy you took your experimental vaccines and are too afraid to learn your globe pseudoscience.

The human body falls apart quickly during long sojurns in space. If I put you in orbit of earth for one year you'd be a miserable sick cripple for the rest of your life. And you would die young from heart problems too.

>>521058498
The point is that Mars is 3 continents worth of dree real estate and you can build a new civilization there. It just takes some work to make a life there. Not really for whiny zoomer types

>>521053708
Yeah but that doesn't change the fact that it's incredibly resource intensive.
You can have all the money in the world but if nobody you know has a fast enough supply line of materials and intellectuals, good luck.

>>521065184
>>521065350
>replying to a flerfer
>replying to a meme flag
NGMI

>>521054013
Australia failed to build a hobby rocket recently.
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/OQqMWsZxjv4
The utter humiliation. Literal children have more success

Only because you fell for cult nonesense.
Pixie magic invisible fairies ‘scientific’ model.
Space isn’t what every sci fi story pretends and every academic cult retard too. Because what they believe is silly and impossible.
Man will NEVER live anywhere except the Earth.
And so why waste effort. The real issue is not making sci fi real, which is impossible and can never happen. It’s not being dragged into hell by the rich.

>>521074446
Holy shit you dence fucking retard. I told you all three "wobbles" that you autistically hyperfixate on. Several times by the way.
This is the reason flerfs get sent to /bant/-because you act like dumb, bad faith arguing nigger.

>>521053320 (OP)

Other planets wont be colonised by human space travellers. Robots will be sent out theoughout the galaxy carrying payload of human genetic material. They’ll be programmed to seek out hospitable worlds and then cultivate and nurture human life on those planets. These robots will be worshipped as gods and quietly self destruct worlds once their task is complete and the world has a population of a few thousand.

The human body cannot survive the rigours of multigenerational space travel and the human mind even less so. You think a person is going to be told “sorry anon you were born on a spaceship, youre going to die on it, as wipl your descendents for the next few Millenia. But please don’t go crazy and murder everyone”

Not to mention, any ship that left now would probably be beaten to its destination by some later developed technology because of the inproportionailty between the rate at which tech develops and the incomprehensible vastness of the distances involved

The only way I’m wrong is if faster than light travel is possible AND non-lethal to the human body. Our wanting or needing that to be possible has nothing to do with its actual feasibility.

>>521053438
>we will never leave the solar system

nigger, we're never leaving this rock.

>>521079952
Yeah, (you) won't

>>521078825
You didn't say shit. And you're wrong about the number of wobbles.
Don't forget, you have to articulate how it counts as empirical evidence for your globe. It's not good enough to have a grade 3 understanding of your blind faith belief system.

>>521078825
You are trying to guess and imply that you answered the question. You didn't.
You don't understand how many wobbles there are, and you are too afraid to list them.
Because you know you'll have to explain your understanding after.
Intellectual dishonestly will only get you into a vaccine booster line.

>>521053320 (OP)
>moon visit in 60s
highly unlikely

>space, in general
unlikely

>every place we'd visit would turn into the same shitshow or worse than we have on earth given enough time.

you're bound to this plane(t).
for one thing our brains need the schumann resonance from earth.

science fiction(!) really did a number the general populace.

>>521080682
>>521080795
Yes I did
There arw three main types of "wobbles"- precession, nutation and chandler wobble. All three are well understood, measured for navigation purposes amd have evidence supporting them, including paleontological
>Water
Water does curve. And it's actually a pretty important thing for geoids.