Thread 18163241

Every woman in the company = 0.5 Goldberg

>>18163241 (OP)
Incel thread upcoming

>>18163241 (OP)
about 2x dynamites too kek

>only 10k for Goldberg's retirement match
grim

>Goldberg
lol

>>18163241 (OP)
Why did they decide to expose women like this, do they want to squash another women revolution before it happens or are they retarded and thought this would actually work.

>>18163241 (OP)
Kek womemes really do be anti-draws and only watched by fat unloved simp trannies tho.

>>18163241 (OP)
>Goldberg can barely draw 10k for his retirement match in his hometown in an 18k arena

>>18163241 (OP)
The last Evolution sold 7000.

>>18163241 (OP)
Why does the Goldberg poster look like AI?

>>18163241 (OP)
Not sure what people expect. SNME has been promoted to hell and back. Evolution has taken a major backseat in build and has only started announcing matches two weeks out. Don't even get me started on GAB. WWE isn't even promoting it during the commercials for SNME and Evolution even though it's the same weekend. Very poorly handled events

>>18163435
You forgot to mention how women's "wrestling" sucks and no one takes it seriously.

Why the fuck in 2025 are we having an all woman PPV? What is this trying to accomplish?

Well Tatum Shotzi and Priscilla Kelly weren't booked thats the issue if they'd done that they'd of sold more tickets

>>18163241 (OP)
Because only a fraction of people actually care about women's wrestling. A few decent on a full card is great, but a whole event? LMAO. It's bad enough the fans complain that there aren't enough matches, even though all PLEs are 5-6. They have to make a shit ton of multi womeme matches just to get "everyone on the card." Meanwhile there's like 2 matches for SNME and there's no virtue signaling about the lack of hype.

>>18163435
How in SNME promoted heavily? They promoted on match for like two weeks. Even now they only have like 2 matches for it.

>>18163241 (OP)
I read somewhere that they are selling combo tickets for both events, bit tickets purchase are being counted as SMNE ticket but not Evolution

>>18163289
Triple H probably did book it and then do nothing to promote it on purpose to get revenge on everyone on social media.

but but but rhea is a huge draw!
but but but alexa merch sales!
but but but but but stephanie vaquir's ass straps!

>>18163241 (OP)
There is nothing entertaining about women's wrestling. Who would spend their hard earned money to watch bad wrestling?

>>18163241 (OP)
Humiliation ritual

>>18163452
they only did this to counter aew while not wasting men on a counter show

>>18163731
>Who would spend their hard earned money to watch bad wrestling
All professional wrestling is bad, bro.

>>18163733
>They're using the women for a show on Sunday to counter an AEW show that no one is going to watch on Saturday
You have to start taking your medication,.

>>18163241 (OP)
KWABOTY

>>18163745
The women are the worst though I'm afraid

>>18163706
He probably doesn't really like the idea. A few years ago he said this about the Evolution PPV:

>“Haven’t we already done them? It’s a funny thing to me. So, equality is equality. Equality is not, ‘I want my own show’. Equality is not, ‘We have to have our own program’. If I told you that I was making an all men’s program and I didn’t want women on it, it would be criticized

>>18163748
my bad i dont follow aew despite what rovert says or womens shit i just saw people saying it was counterprogramming

>>18163241 (OP)
Why the fuck would you schedule this shit on the weekend of All In and down the street from a Beyonce concert that will be going on at the same time? It's like they want the women's show to fail on purpose.

>>18163471
>How in SNME promoted heavily?
They've been running commercials for well over a month. All of the Goldberg shit has been promoted on Raw since at least the last ppv. Out of the three shows they're running that weekend SNME has been promoted the heaviest

>>18163289
It's funny because it completely exposed the whole "Rhea is a huge draw" shit.
She gets piped in reactions and her social media shit was the same shit they did with Charlotte years ago which is paid a bot farm.

>>18163241 (OP)
Isn't Evolution packaged with something else

>>18163814
They think they are big enough draws to belong in the main events of wrestlemanias. Well go prove it, ladies!

>>18163320
this with Ronda Rousey

>>18163797
He's right. If they tried doing an all male PPV reddit would have to be put on suicide watch. They would be called every ist and phobe conceivable.

Having an all female PPV is pretty sexist since the men are still expected to share their time with them. They'll never do an all male PPV. They don't want the optics of how much better an all male PPV would do compared to an all female one.

>>18163241 (OP)
>Every woman in the company = 0.5 Goldberg
*All women in the company combined = 0.448 Goldberg

>>18163814
ain't nobody going to that beyonce shit

I know people meme about the term, but evolution 2 does feel like a hotshot thing, while this snme feels like it has been building up for a bit

>>18163241 (OP)
They promise nudity and it would be the fastest selling PLE in history

>>18163814
>Why the fuck would you schedule this shit on the weekend of All In
Why not? What does that have to do with anything? I won't buy a ticket to Evolution because All In happened the day before?

>>18163241 (OP)
if they wanted a womens ppv to draw numbers then they should have just added a bikini contest to the show

>>18163241 (OP)
wow what a failed attempt at counter promoting

>>18164401
>counter promoting
GMS
it's counter programming dumbfuck
>aew on Saturday at 3pm
>evolution on Sunday at 7pm
>counter-programming
nope

>>18163456
Based and true.

>>18164438
Why do ESL's constantly try to correct people's english like this and just make themselves look retarded. It's not limited to this board either, I've seen it on multiple others. Do browns really think they understand how to speak the language and common phrases of it?

>>18164456
only one who looks retarded is you aewtist faggot

the seething from women wrestling fans is hilarious

if women weren't wearing revealing clothing no one would care about them

why do you think female wrestlers always transition towards onlyfans KEK

>>18164286
Beyonce is dimes and a hot caramel milf

>>18165892
She's in the battle royal for a title shot at Clash in Paris

Did the original Evolution do bad?

>>18166102
Sorta. Didn't do as well as typical WWE shows at the time. No one gave a shit about this kind of stuff back then

>>18166102
this is supposedly the best female wrestling roster ever and they still can't draw KWAB

going to be hilarious if evolution is tarp city kek

>>18163241 (OP)
It's because they don't have anything to sell
You had Rondetty carrying the entire fucking company and that's why it sold
Now who do you have?
A bunch fo blacks and 40 year old White women

>>18166102
Did 10,900, which isn't bad for the venue. I think the buys were awful.

I don't understand why theyre even doing it again. The original was basically a response to when the Saudi shows were male only. This isn't needed. We have 5 match events and 2-3 are usually womeme garbage.

>>18163471
They have been doing segments, video packages and commercials for SNME in both shows since Goldberg appeared like a month and a half ago.

They just started promoting Evolution since this Monday and even then SNME gets more promotion and build.

>>18166221
>I don't understand why theyre even doing it again
Rumor has it the women were complaining they aren't getting PLE main events (During John Cena's farewell tour year at that) and so this was to throw them a bone and also show how dimeless they are.

>>18163241 (OP)
Sunday tickets to a women only PPV clearly won't sell well.

>>18166263
When IS they last time they main evented?
They finally got Mania and fucked up the finish. Why would they give them more main events?

>>18163241 (OP)
TKO will finally have the numbers they need to fire all women

>>18163247
That part

>>18163241 (OP)
As funny as booking the women's PPV like this is, id rather HHH just let the show have the spotlight and let it fail on its own. Now the women and simps will have a bunch of excuses.

>>18163241 (OP)
Nobody cares about womyn's wrestling except faggots and simps
Why do these companies fail to understand this?

>>18168697
here come the excuses KWAB

>>18163241 (OP)
womenetty lmao

>>18168746
?

>>18164025
>She gets piped in
Glad I'm not the only one that's noticed this. It's particularly obvious when they show the fake decibel meter that doesn't match up with the lulls in the piped in audio. It's amateur. Shit tier, honestly

>>18163241 (OP)
Yikes

>>18164025
Yep I saw her live a few weeks ago and she got a decent pop but it was not earth shattering like they'd lead you to believe

>>18164025
Probably adds to why she's so insecure. I remember she forgot the script in one of her promos, and her pea brain couldn't promo on the fly. I think it was the one when that Scottish Capeshit wrestler was standing next to her.

>>18163289
>do they want to squash another women revolution before it happens
i am 100% sure its this

>>18163241 (OP)
To be fair, Goldberg is more over than 90% of male wrestlers too.

>>18168738
I think they know that but they still try to push them despite that because it's the "progressive" thing to do.

>>18163289
The idea is that women get too much time on main PPVs for most people's liking, so what if they get their own women-only PPV so they don't litter the serious show.
The result is that they still get booked on the serious show for the same diversity reasons as before, and they get to do a women's only show, meaning they get even more airtime and exposure than before.
And if you were to suggest that there should be a men's only PPV for the sake of equal opportunities and fairness, the board (Stephanie) will tell you that's simply not going to happen in a million years.

>>18163435
And Liv's injured, meaning she won't be there to be a hot and flexible sexy draw.
Like having a porn without the actress.

>>18168738
They understand that full well.
They also understand that if they don't do this, shareholders and associates on the exchanges will ask questions and sell shares.
You are not TKO's primary customer. The shareholders and the stock market are.

>>18166297
They main event every now and then in RAW and SD so they can't complain about that. It's not rare nowadays.

Last time they main evented a PPV was in Australia I think. The Rhea match.

>>18163241 (OP)
goldberg will botch some move and injure GUNTer. oldberg even botched his intro before.

>Oldberg
When will this jew go away?

>>18163241 (OP)
Bill Goldberg is the shits

>>18168703
but SNME is there to mitigate the fist that the womeme failure will hit them with. If they let it fail on their own, who recovers all that money?

>>18172272
They will recover the money by having an excuse to not feature women as much. They can point to this and tell their shareholders that they don't draw

>>18172079
Hey Bret

>>18172079
So are womemes.

>>18171694
This is Hunter's fault

>>18163241 (OP)
Well, yeah, womens wrestling isnt a draw. Im not shitting on the women, well, not all of them and especially not on their head during a three way with my booty buddy, but its a niche audience. Given a choice of nxt or evolution id rather have the variety of nxt overall.

>>18164372
what the actual fuck are you on about

>>18163241 (OP)
GUYS ARE PUSSYWHIPPED BY THEIR WIVES WHATS NEW

>>18172359
You know that never works. If you tell a shareholder that they don't want women anymore, they will agree with you in a heartbeat. In a literal blink of an eye. Guaranteed.

However, the moment the predictable shitstorm on social media begins, they will do a 360 and tell you to fuck off. As long as social media has the power it has, no one will ever dare to not feature the women as much. It's either feature them or face cancel culture

>>18173276
Fair point

>>18172951
Holy grim. Nobody cares about NXT. We've already had Iyo/Rhea. Tag crap. Battle Royale filled with antidraws that shouldn't be booked. Sloppy Tiffy vs menopausal Trish.
Jade vs Naomi trainwreck that could be the most memorable match of the night for all the wrong reasons. The most bland triple threat ever with two of the most boring performers in the company and Becky who has regressed to their level

>>18172951
becky vs lyra vs bayley has been constantly given screen time,women wrestling fags have no excuse. no one actually cares about women actually wrestling

>>18163241 (OP)
kek vaquer couldn't make the poster? fucking grim

>>18163241 (OP)
I thought Rhea was a massive draw?

It's funny that anyone here thinks they can properly asses a show when it's all just echoing about how you don't like the women so they HAVE to not be popular.

>>18173386
She was doing her best

>>18173387
That part. Drones are incels.

>>18163241 (OP)
WWE waited to announce dates for this so that they could counterprogram all in but i really feel like it just hurt everyone involved.
they weren't able to build feuds for this SNME and especially for evolution, shit is just thrown at the wall. evolution is on on the same day (and i would assume overlapping with?) the finale of love island, and beyonce is running concerts in atlanta all through the weekend, so that's a big portion of the female viewerbase and potential attendees already wiped out.
i guess it worked out if they wanted an excuse to never do another one. but they don't need an excuse for that anyway.

>>18163241 (OP)
It's literally a branding problem.

Calling the women's wrestling show "Evolution" suggests that the future is a move away from wrestling as a male dominated industry, both in terms of the talent and target audience, and the current core audience just has to accept that nothing is ever made for them anymore, even if they're the natural customer. This is what legitimate society-wide exclusion looks like. It's extremely hateful and ugly. Only the creepy beta male feminist audience really shows up for it (the landwhales just post on social media), and as the entertainment industry has been learning the hard way, that's not a large enough audience to sustain a major industry.

Package and build it as a girly show for anyone who likes girly shows rather than part of a replacement project and it'd probably do better. Think Stardom. There was a time when Trish Stratus got the second loudest pop of the night with normie audiences in an era where Austin, Rock, Undertaker, etc. were active. Having a successful all-female PPV once or twice per year can be done.

>>18173449
Calling it SHEvolution would have fixed everything

>>18163247
ok incel

>>18168697
ok incel

>>18163241 (OP)
miss Ronda yet?

>>18173484
God no

>>18173485
Only actual draw the women’s division ever had

>>18173484
Fans literally wanted her to retire

>>18163241 (OP)
Women aren't a draw. Despite getting huge pops, Rhea is only a drew when she's with Dom.

>>18163797
>>18164169
You're an idiot and so is he. There have been plenty of all male ppvs. The fuck is this nigga talking about?

>>18173552
Fickle

>>18173552
If I gave a shit what the fans thought they wanted I would end up sitting with them pal

>>18173613
see
>>18164025
It doesn't make any sense to me that Rhea would be popular when audiences have repeatedly shown across mediums that they HATE girlbosses, doubly so when they LARP as men. Literally nothing in entertainment history even comes close to being as large of a financial black hole. Tens of billions of dollars lost on this ugly manufactured trend.

There was a brief period where people tolerated them in an effort to look open-minded (an attitude that would come back to bite us because it set precedent), but once the entertainment industry decided that these butches who are repulsive inside and out were going to be our new heroes, people's tolerance was depleted real fast.
>Rhea is hot as fuck!
How appealing do you find the idea of having a dildo stuck up your ass?

>>18173469
Evil craven drone

>>18173485
>>18173552
but without her your womeme event will become the biggest failure in the history of the company

>>18174345
>but without her your womeme event will become the biggest failure in the history of the company
The first Evolution (with Ronda) was the biggest failure in the history of the company

Women's sports do not draw

>>18173619
How many all male PPVs have WWE put on in the past ten years?

>>18163241 (OP)
In fairness to the women on this one, it's had very little build. I'm not sure there's a single match on the card with any heat. Both champions literally hand-picked their opponents. The main roster hasn't run any wild angles or segments to garner attention. NXT has made a bigger deal about it, but they're the wrestling school and get less than half the views.
The company finally has some women that are fairly over, organically, but all that said, I don't think it'd do a whole lot better regardless. Once some of the old guard and the rest of the four horsefaces are finally phased out, and we get more NXT girls called up, maybe an Evolution 3 will finally be in the cards if they're willing to build to it. Still probably wouldn't do as well as a normal card, but at least better than the disaster that these first two have been.

>>18163427
His left shoulder is far from his body you could fit another head on it, if not AI it's a Photoshop image edge curve

>>18174739
>very little build
>lyra vs becky has been going on since wm41
KEK so much cope

>>18163241 (OP)
Why doesn't women's wrestling draw?

>>18175068
We have Alexa now

>>18175068
I specifically remember when the 2000s version of chuds complained about 60lb bimbos performing feats of strength on TV shows/movies (like that show Alias, picrel) and in wrestling. They said it looked phony and gay. So, now, they have high test women. Blame them.

>>18175185
Yeah, and she is stuck with Chuck now.
>>18175205
I remember watching that show as a kid. It was complete gooner bait.

>>18175468
>stuck with Chuck
That should be the name of their tag team

It's over
>WWE Evolution 2025 is on course to draw WWE's lowest non-pandemic premium live event attendance since June 2019's Stomping Grounds.
>WWE drew a reported 6,000 fans for Stomping Grounds in 2019. For a lower, non-pandemic, non-NXT PLE attendance, you have to go back to 2006's December to Dismember, which drew around 4,800.
https://whatculture.com/wwe/so-far-wwe-evolution-2025-is-a-box-office-bomb-wwe-news

>>18175556
holy shit I knew it was bad but lowest PLE ever? They're bringing up the pandemic for comparison??

>>18175556
Liv would have saved it
2000 tickets are easily bought just to see her

>>18174803
Congratulations, anon, you picked the one match that had build. That must mean they all got bulld, you're right.

>>18163241 (OP)
>Stardom outdrew Women's Wrestling Entertainment.

PLEASE BUY TICKETS

>>18163249
Is this true?

>>18175568
Imagine doing both of them from that angle, piled on top of the other. You do Live until you're about to blow, then put it in Rhea and finish off doggy. Some men are living like this.

>>18163241 (OP)
>getting people in the deep south to be interested in anything called Evolution

pretty sure even women wouldn't want to watch an all female ppv so who exactly is this aimed at?

>>18176731
retards on Twitter that won't pay, attend, or even watch but will send a tweet of congratulations to ALL QUEENS for yet another victory on the gender war.

>WKWABOTY goes to all of them
YASSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Im not watching senior citizen kikeberg and Im sure as hell not watching a womeme only ppv

>>18163241 (OP)
I'd buy a ticket right now if they advertised Jade and Tiffany rubbing clits.

>>18176731
My penis

>>18177421
gotta watch le memeltzer 100 stars cripple vs gook #4757346 event instead right?

>>18172951
What's the main event?

>>18176731
I'd watch an all female 5-6 matches 2 hours PPV with the actual top women and a good main event that culminates a feud, but this is a shitshow

>>18177967
>actual top women
like who

>>18177972
all the top recent NXT call-ups, Vaquer, Giulia, Roxanne, add Iyo, Asuka, Rhea, Liv, maybe Raquel and Jordynne, and Naomi or the fridge, but I'd prefer Jaida
And bring in Tessa Blanchard with the "free agent in the crowd" gimmick

>>18178010
None of those are real top names. Not even the horsememes are. You need someone at Ronda's level of popularity or notoriety (both work) to justify a whole PPV.

>>18178069
lmao

>>18178069
there are top, established names in there, and hot up and comers, that's literally what you want for a PPV
Rhonda was a draw for a short while but she's gone and I don't hear anybody crying to have her back, people would tune in our of curiosity for the name, on a advertised return, but she can't carry more than that, whereas two thirds of the names I listed can

>>18178010
>Raquel and Jordynne
>Jaida
>Tessa Blanchard
All those small time no name wrestlers. Glad you're not booking

>>18178140
Every show needs losers and they might as well look good but it's also on such occasions that you can make talented midcarders mean more
But yeah we could totally improve this card by replacing them with Jade or Tiffy or Becky or Lyra or Bailey, fuck me sideways