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Anonymous No.18448660 [Report] >>18448800 >>18448978 >>18449047 >>18449300 >>18451202 >>18451742 >>18451805 >>18452346 >>18452823 >>18452852 >>18453283 >>18453836 >>18453886 >>18453967 >>18454041 >>18454074 >>18455101 >>18455543 >>18457673 >>18458287 >>18458323 >>18464765 >>18464945 >>18466233
>guise i'm not a heel anymore :D
Anonymous No.18448757 [Report]
It's okay guys he said he's sorry! (He actually didn't do that lol)
Anonymous No.18448800 [Report] >>18451734 >>18453922 >>18457656 >>18466219
>>18448660 (OP)
>literally turned back face for no reason
Bravo HHH
Anonymous No.18448978 [Report] >>18449222
>>18448660 (OP)
oh okay :)
Anonymous No.18449047 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
I always loved you BMJ
Anonymous No.18449222 [Report]
>>18448978
:DDDD
Anonymous No.18449295 [Report] >>18449341 >>18449342 >>18449605 >>18451201 >>18452366 >>18453903 >>18454892 >>18455163 >>18456269 >>18456746 >>18456782 >>18456809 >>18457673 >>18457728 >>18458326 >>18461911 >>18463053 >>18464566 >>18464755 >>18466277 >>18466284
I think this was proof that Cena turning heel just never would have worked and its a good thing that WWE never listened to the smarks for the last 2 decades. I'm sure Cena tried very hard to pull it off. He drew massive heat early on during the heel run, but it fizzled out after Dwayne decided to pull out from the story.
Anonymous No.18449300 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
So this is the genius of the BOOKER OF THE YEAR, huh?
Anonymous No.18449341 [Report] >>18451813
>>18449295
It would have worked 15 years ago when the iron was hot but doing it now just didn't seem believable enough
Anonymous No.18449342 [Report]
>>18449295
>I think this was proof that Cena turning heel just never would have worked
>never
Nigga he used to be a heel and it was his best work. WWE's mistake was trying to turn him heel again decades too late.
ProWresBlog !1JPtDnh8WA No.18449405 [Report] >>18450683 >>18451187 >>18458058 >>18468113
It was really awful booking. They could have told a nice story with Cena turning face mid-match. It would have made the match better and gave people the big moment they wanted. Instead, they just threw it away on Smackdown.

Then Brock came and beat up Cena. Why? Who knows. But it's already off to a poor start.

Something's wrong with WWE. We could blame WWE's bad booking on Vince being a schizo before. But Triple H isn't like that. And it may be worse long term because Vince would at least have fun and throw his food at the wall if he got bored.
Anonymous No.18449605 [Report] >>18450702
>>18449295
Dwayne was 100% the problem. The turn and this run would have been so much better had wrestlemania been built as a face vs. face feud with his heel turn only happening when he wins the belt. Him turning at elimination chamber made it predictable that he would win the title, and starting on such a bad note ruined his whole run.
Anonymous No.18450683 [Report]
>>18449405
>Why? Who knows
retirement
Anonymous No.18450702 [Report] >>18451755
>>18449605
Eventually you guys will accept HHH sucks and can't book for shit.
Anonymous No.18451187 [Report] >>18451726 >>18454904
>>18449405
>Smackdown
what happened here? i was busy having a life friday night
Anonymous No.18451201 [Report]
>>18449295
the turn worked, anything longer than a half-year run as one doesn't
Anonymous No.18451202 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
Cena's final run has been just as awful as the rest of his career lmao.
>get to be "the guy"
>become the reason for the biggest exodus of fans in the history of pro wrestling
>finally fuck off
>company gets hot for the first time in 25 years
>return and immediately ruin everything
Cena is, was, and always will be dogshit.
Anonymous No.18451726 [Report]
>>18451187
slopdown got cancelled
Anonymous No.18451734 [Report] >>18451747 >>18454031 >>18461911 >>18462707
>>18448800
It's because the heel story sucked and the best idea is just to bail and let people love Cena again. You don't have to like it, but this was the best choice.
Anonymous No.18451739 [Report] >>18451793
The long awaited heel Cena run basically just amounted to the viral moment of him turning and nothing else
Anonymous No.18451742 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
legitimately one of the worst heel turns in recent memory
Anonymous No.18451747 [Report]
>>18451734
You can bail on storylines and pretend they didn't happen because the WWE audience are literal retards and children so nothing has to make sense in the end
Anonymous No.18451755 [Report]
>>18450702
This. I watched Unreal and HHH comes across as a shoot retard in it. "If your fans can predict the story, you need to pivot" is legitimate retard tier writing advice and he says it like it's some fucking trvthnvke and the smartest thing anyone has ever said.
Anonymous No.18451765 [Report] >>18457694
I think what happened was Trump was talking to Hunter and was comparing himself to Cena. H explained to Trump that Cena was a bad guy and Trump said change him to a good guy so I can name drop how we are both the greatest. Now we have pussy Cena again.
Anonymous No.18451782 [Report] >>18451859
i forgave him when he did pop rox on the outside and had a big dumb goofy grin on his face
Anonymous No.18451793 [Report]
>>18451739
It suits Cena as a wrestler, the man that ruined wrestling. HHH are the one that booked it was a cherry on top, kek.
Anonymous No.18451805 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
Cinema. I cried
Anonymous No.18451813 [Report] >>18464879
>>18449341
Stop kidding yourself. It wouldn't have worked then either. You know he would've been cheer by the smark crowd
Anonymous No.18451859 [Report] >>18453865 >>18455118
>>18451782
>pop rox
Stop calling it that you retard. It's a sunset flip powerbomb and Cena has been doing it since the US open challenge 10 fucking years ago.
Anonymous No.18452346 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
Kek
Anonymous No.18452366 [Report]
>>18449295
It could have worked if he was a reluctant heel that was forced to join the Nexus for awhile and do their bidding until finally he couldn't take it anymore and snapped. Turned on Wade and showed a darker edgier side while still remaining technically a good guy. He was just forced to be heel for a few months. But Vince and Cena had other plans for that whole angle and they blew what was at that point the best and most original faction to come around in quite some time. Cool start but they fast ruined the whole Nexus angle.
Anonymous No.18452375 [Report]
20+ people writing room btw LMAOOOOOOOO
Wrestling "storytelling" is for shoot retards
Anonymous No.18452823 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
Kino storytelling
Anonymous No.18452852 [Report] >>18455607
>>18448660 (OP)
yes it was stupid and rushed, but if I don't have to hear about Cody's Soul, hear Fein, see Travis Scott or hear more crying promos from Cena about how he think fans are poopy heads for booing him or try to be a heel by counting down the days, I'm all for it.
A brutally blatant salvage job is better than having to endure even one more fucking week of any as the incompetent writers try to twist the thing to fix it.

It's fucking
>LET'S GO FLIPFLOP SUPER CENA
from me
Anonymous No.18453283 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
Cute!
Anonymous No.18453836 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
Bad booking
Anonymous No.18453865 [Report]
>>18451859
Actually it's the Code Red and Amazing Red was doing it back when Cena was a failed bodybuilder
Anonymous No.18453886 [Report] >>18453895 >>18453907
>>18448660 (OP)
Blame Rock, I feel like there was supposed to be more of a story involving the Rock and the “soul” shit but the jabroni decided to bail last minute. Cena had to carry being a heel by himself which is hard when your one of the most loved professional wrestlers of all time.
Anonymous No.18453895 [Report]
>>18453886
Vince was right
Anonymous No.18453903 [Report]
>>18449295
All of this happened because they trusted a drugged up nigger whose name isn't even really Travis.
Anonymous No.18453907 [Report]
>>18453886
The Rock isn’t the booker though.
Anonymous No.18453922 [Report] >>18453934 >>18453955 >>18457656 >>18458497
>>18448800
He turned Heel for no reason either. Seriously, he never fully explained what the Rock had to do with anything.
>The fans were mean to me
Ok, and why did you align with the Rock?
>....?
Th whole thing was retarded.
Anonymous No.18453934 [Report] >>18457656
>>18453922
And he also barely did anything heelish besides the classics. Nothing original or something that would make you really dislike him.
Anonymous No.18453938 [Report]
don't forget triple h also ruined new day white hot heel run after 2 weeks.
Anonymous No.18453955 [Report]
>>18453922
I imagine Rock was supposed to be an essential part of the story like WM40 was, but he big leagued the shit out of them and ruined like a year's worth of programming because of Paul and his' dick measuring contest.
Anonymous No.18453967 [Report] >>18462414
>>18448660 (OP)
so what? his match last night was one of my favorites of his career. Stop fucking bitching for one day, is it possible?
Anonymous No.18454031 [Report]
>>18451734
Correct triple H is a fucking hack
Anonymous No.18454041 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
The match was good, all is forgiven.
Anonymous No.18454058 [Report]
We'll always have that 10/10 segment on Elimination Chamber but everything was a massive disappointment.
Anonymous No.18454074 [Report] >>18454563
>>18448660 (OP)
It was a great match and I couldn't enjoy it properly because I didn't trust Cena won't do some shit until the very end. And then Cody pinned him clean, it was like a great weight was lifted off my shoulders. WWE and their obsession with interferences have made me not enjoy matches.
Anonymous No.18454101 [Report]
This was like Sting's 1999 heel turn. Lasted for only a few months when one day they just threw up their hands and said "fuck it, he's a face again".
Anonymous No.18454563 [Report] >>18455391
>>18454074
Why do you get interference anxiety? Like it’s just fake fighting lol
Anonymous No.18454892 [Report] >>18455383
>>18449295
The story makes everyone suck.
Cody sucks. Rock sucked. Cena sucks.
That story was never going to put anyone over, and you know why that's the case.
Dwaynetty came in with his Hollywood production crew, got Ari's blessing and mandate to handle this, and they didn't book from the ending backwards.
Dwayne and Gerwitz just sucked it out of their thumb and tried to wing it.
This is on top of the writers being shit at their job due to being overworked with 120 wrestlers to write for, and further creative bankruptcy from Triple H who just wants to put the figured-in people over at everyone else's expense (including the audience).
Nobody could stop the hostile takeover of the creative lack of direction.
They pushed Dwayne's crew away though, slowly. Dwayne exposed the business at those press moments out of spite for how he was being treated.
That leaves the main event with a story that had nowhere to go and didn't make it out of the starting blocks, and absolutely nowhere left to go now that they canned it.

Cena's an actor. Give him the script and he'll tell the story.
The script was barren and what little it had was shit.
Anonymous No.18454904 [Report]
>>18451187
They halfway announced Cena would turn face at Summerslam.
Anonymous No.18455101 [Report] >>18457608
>>18448660 (OP)
lmao bitchtits, jaxton and mariahschizo/karly are upset about cenas face turn
Anonymous No.18455118 [Report]
>>18451859
Pop rox is less letters so ima keep calling it that
Anonymous No.18455123 [Report]
Rock, Cena, Triple H, Travis Scott and the stupid writing team all deserve equal blame
Just make an NWO-lite Cena, would've been better than a YOU PEOPLE Cena
Anonymous No.18455163 [Report]
>>18449295
they literally didn't even come close to try to make this shit work
Anonymous No.18455383 [Report] >>18458305
>>18454892
>Cena's an actor.
You wouldn't think it by the way he sold things last night.
Anonymous No.18455391 [Report]
>>18454563
Because it ruins a great match? What's so hard to understand? Just have a clear winner, I don't ask for much.
Anonymous No.18455404 [Report] >>18464767
Remember when Big Show was the only character that jumped between heel and face sporadically?
Anonymous No.18455543 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
I'm going to throw a huge party when this egomaniac fucks off for good
Anonymous No.18455607 [Report]
>>18452852
Pretty much this. The face turn was clumsy but no less sudden than the heel turn, but it least it's understandable in kayfabe in hindsight.
Cena being an old dude that acted out so he wouldn't be forgotten is a short and simple explanation. If Rocky wants to show up again as the puppet master, he can do so or just fuck off. He's not needed for that story.
And Cena's "I'm going to ruin wrestling forever because I am evil" was basically dead in the water when he was still getting cheers.
Anonymous No.18456253 [Report]
The storytelling over the last couple years makes the 90's era look like oscar quality. HHH truly is the worst booker of all time.
Anonymous No.18456269 [Report]
>>18449295
How many times has vince been proven right?
Anonymous No.18456746 [Report] >>18456965
>>18449295
It didn't work now because no one wants a long-term Babyface to be a heel during their retirement run, the time to do a heel turn was when he was feuding with the rock and the fans were backing the rock and not Cena
Anonymous No.18456782 [Report]
>>18449295
>it's another Vince was right episode
Anonymous No.18456795 [Report]
It honestly made me appreciate him more with the heel run being so ass
Anonymous No.18456809 [Report]
>>18449295
No it’s even more proof that a heel turn would have worked back then not now, dumbass
Anonymous No.18456965 [Report] >>18457637
>>18456746
That's when you Hogan/Rock it and have Cena turn babyface mid retirement match. The early month or two of Cena being a heel leading in to Wrestlemania against Cody was great but it quickly just fizzled out after that
Anonymous No.18457608 [Report]
>>18455101
KEK true
Anonymous No.18457637 [Report]
>>18456965
It wasn't great, no one was buying it, no one was booing him, it was a complete failure of booking from triple H
Anonymous No.18457656 [Report]
>>18453922
>>18448800
>>18453934
The worst part is the promo he cut was very deliberately held back. He was being as professional as possible while trying to be "organic words" that he was shooting with. He absolutely would've flamed Rock if he could've but didn't because either he's old and wants to get the job done or was told not to. This entire thing is embarassing on everyone's end.
Rock for suggesting it and thrusting himself in the story.
H for booking it.
Cena for being a submissive yes man bitch and going with it.
Anonymous No.18457673 [Report] >>18458603
>>18448660 (OP)
>>18449295
I have a strong feeling i would end up looking like the shartman fart when i grow old. I already talk like him as if i just got kicked by the bald kike
Anonymous No.18457694 [Report]
>>18451765
Holy fucking shit that makes so much sense lmao
fuck that orange fucking retard
Anonymous No.18457728 [Report]
>>18449295
a cena heel turn would have worked during his prime, obviously it’s not going to work when he’s about to retire, working part time and has been a babyface for 20 years
Anonymous No.18458058 [Report]
>>18449405
Tripple Aids is just a shit booker.
NXT was setup by Dusty and then this retard took all the credit.
He doesn't even like this shit, it's just a fucking job.
Tiny might be a shit booker but you can see him trying at least and from time to time you get something good.
I miss Vince.
Anonymous No.18458287 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
>Matt Hardy gets Broken after going through a table
>John Cena gets fixed after going through a table
Are tables both the ultimate cause and cure for schizophrenia?
Anonymous No.18458305 [Report]
>>18455383
Cena is probably going to be up for an Emmy this time next year
Anonymous No.18458319 [Report] >>18458403 >>18468143 >>18470462
WWE can't book a single damn storyline to save their lives, when was the last time they actually wrote a good storyline? Zami Zayn as a member of the Bloodline is the last one I can remember of.
Anonymous No.18458323 [Report] >>18458325
>>18448660 (OP)
He never was a heel, he has always been John Cena. Smarks here and on reddit decided he was a heel.
Anonymous No.18458325 [Report] >>18458775
>>18458323
You are shoot autistic
Anonymous No.18458326 [Report]
>>18449295
nah it was just bad execution
Anonymous No.18458403 [Report] >>18459068 >>18468143
>>18458319
Sami was basically doing improv. That's how he managed to get even Reigns and Solo to corpse. Rescued the tiresome Godfather angle. Otherwise it was just a take on Dusty's booking of Flair and the Horsemen from Apr 1986 til Sept 88 when Arn & Tully jumped to WWF, then returned when Ole came back & Ric turned heel agst Sting in 90. Flair, unlike Reigns, got pissed cos the constant interference and DQs made him look weak; as long as the fat checks kept rolling in, RR didn't give a shit what it made him look like. Also, guys in JCP didn't generally have fixed contracts, so burned crowds affected Ric's bottom line. Wasn't til Turner bought it that the guys started to get salaries.
Anonymous No.18458414 [Report] >>18458418 >>18458448
What's sillier? Cena's lazy ahh face turn or Swerve smiling as the man that burned his house down and drank his blood won the world title?
Anonymous No.18458418 [Report]
>>18458414
Very low effort bait. Have a (you)
Anonymous No.18458433 [Report]
Sting, Goldberg and Austin had the three most ill advised heel turns ever and all three of them were resolved with “he’s a face now lol”
Anonymous No.18458448 [Report]
>>18458414
Haitch is counting on Lesnar surprise to make you forget about them shitting the bed w/what was for a couple of days the biggest turn since 1996. Then they had Grumpy Cena come out and blame the fans, then the WM fuckery, it was clear they didn't know WTF they were doing.
Anything resembling storylines or lore in AEW is an illusion. TK snorts too much coke & too ADHD to remember what happened a mth ago.
Noko No.18458497 [Report] >>18458666
>>18453922
The Dwayne fucked it all up there had to have been more things planned involving the reveal of why he aligned with Dwayne. Then that bullshit with that cruiserweight twink, Kardashian run off, Travis Scott, and he's now gone cause he didn't like their plans. This was the best they could do "Suddenly I'm face again! Cheer me guys I'm retiring soon."
Anonymous No.18458603 [Report]
>>18457673
Iv noticed he's started to look alot like my grandad
Anonymous No.18458666 [Report] >>18458688 >>18458720
>>18458497
Triple H took credit for the Cena heel turn
Anonymous No.18458688 [Report]
>>18458666
>triple nose lies
Wow so interesting
Anonymous No.18458720 [Report] >>18462424
>>18458666
Ari told him to because the Rock asked Ari to tell him to because the Rock got a call back for that A24 movie and knew he was abandoning the whole thing and wanted someone else to take the heat.
Anonymous No.18458743 [Report]
Turning him back before he lost the title was the best thing they could do at this point.
Anonymous No.18458775 [Report] >>18458808
>>18458325
Nah you're just a retard that can't understand something unless it's categorized and labeled in a way that tells you how to respond.
Anonymous No.18458808 [Report]
>>18458775
You’re right, I am a WWE fan.
Anonymous No.18459068 [Report]
>>18458403
Great explanation, thanks a lot.
Anonymous No.18461911 [Report] >>18461998 >>18464932
>>18451734
>>18449295
this. the uncomfortable truth for smarks is that heel cena never would've been good even if it was 100% what they wanted and more. the only positive thing i can say about the run is that cena didn't go for the low hanging fruit of being the "cool heel" that everyone and their grandma tries to be nowadays and actually tried to be a heel that people hated.

-if he went "hollywood cena" it would've failed because the smarks would've cheered for him.

-if he went reluctant heel and was forced into a faction like the nexus or wyatt family it would've failed because he would've overshadowed the other members of the faction.

-if he went heel at any other time during his prime it would've failed because they had no real credible babyfaces (or ones that WWE/vince wanted to push) to oppose him.


>inb4 "b-but muh dr. of thuganomics"
those days have been over for so long they're old enough to drink, vote and enlist in the army.
Anonymous No.18461998 [Report] >>18466719
>>18461911
Who cares if a heel gets cheered? Hollywood Rock is an all time bad guy, he couldn’t get the fans to boo him if he shot their dogs
Anonymous No.18462414 [Report]
>>18453967
>last night was one of my favorites of his career
must be nice to have started watching in pg era
Anonymous No.18462424 [Report]
>>18458720
I hope The Dwayne are that much of a ruthless fucker but he is not.
Anonymous No.18462590 [Report]
>/pw/ says "THIS IS BIGGER THAN HOGAN'S HEEL TURN!"
>it legit isn't and falls apart and they scream "it's because of the Rock no showing and Travis Scott!"
>then Cena turns face on the fucking Smackdown before SummerSlam and everyone is just ok with it
You faggots deserve this garbage.
Anonymous No.18462627 [Report] >>18462667
I think they were overthinking the heel turn. Just have Cena be the insecure old man who goes full ruthless cyborg because he sees Cody and anyone else being in his way of surpassing Ric Flair.
Anonymous No.18462667 [Report]
>>18462627
they did anything but thinking with this run
Anonymous No.18462707 [Report]
>>18451734
The best choice was to not book yourself into a corner and turn either Cody or John heel, and have the understanding that people don’t want to boo a legend on his last year in the company. Triple Retard
Anonymous No.18463053 [Report]
>>18449295
They didn't even try.
Anonymous No.18464566 [Report] >>18464574
>>18449295
/thread

Smarks won’t admit it though because it would be them conceding Vince was right about something so they’ll just blame Dwayne and move on
Anonymous No.18464574 [Report] >>18464594
>>18464566
Na it just shows that Cena totally sucks. Roman turned heel and it started a boom period. Cena turned heel and tanked the Netflix ratings
Anonymous No.18464594 [Report] >>18464607
>>18464574
kek. Just admit you were wrong nigga
Anonymous No.18464607 [Report]
>>18464594
That Cena sucks?
No can do lil buddy that’s a stone cold fact!
Anonymous No.18464755 [Report] >>18464859
>>18449295
The run didn't work because it was booked retarded. Wrong time, wrong place, wrong idea. The time to do a Cena heel run was 12-13 years ago when the hate for him was white hot, not when he's doing his nostalgia driven final run with an already known destination and fans not wanting to boo him because of it. It is also a horrible booked run at that. The tiresome 'you people' heel shit they tried to do doesn't work, especially when he looks like a complete schizo given fans have been cheering for him all the way since the beginning. And finally - let's be honest - Cena has always been shit.
Anonymous No.18464765 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
The crowd cheering him non-stop didn't exactly help matters.
Anonymous No.18464767 [Report]
>>18455404
Next week, John Cena cries in the ring!
Anonymous No.18464859 [Report]
>>18464755
>fans have been cheering for him all the way since the beginning
fr fr
Anonymous No.18464871 [Report]
Should have kept the title like he said and then lost it to a cash in at his own retirement ceremony
Anonymous No.18464879 [Report]
>>18451813
not a chance in hell, people back then legitimately hated him and for good reason.
Anonymous No.18464932 [Report] >>18466719
>>18461911
>because the smarks would've cheered for him
why am i reading this on multiple threads today lol
re-writing history.
cena turned half a generation of fans away from wrestling during his reign of terror 10-15 years ago, there was no storyline that couldve changed that, he was the old fashioned vince model of unathletic lumbering goof character in a post cm punk/nxt world where fans wanted something else. it was the same reason people hated reigns from the outset, they wanted seth and the aew guy.
i think the last chance i gave the wwe back then was when i was hoping they would be putting over bray wyatt at wrestlemania 30, that was in 2014. when cena won that match i tapped out for good and i remember being the last in my group of internet friends left watching, i didnt come back to wrestling until last year.
Anonymous No.18464945 [Report] >>18465943
>>18448660 (OP)
I would say its pretty fucked up they insult their audiences intelligence like this but Edrones don't have any intelligence
Anonymous No.18465943 [Report]
>>18464945
jej
Anonymous No.18466219 [Report]
>>18448800
Not H's fault that The Dwayne fucked it all up by no longer wanting to show up. Or having to rely on that cruiserweight manlet, Kardashian run off, Travis Scott, who a few weeks ago dropped out of the company
Anonymous No.18466233 [Report]
>>18448660 (OP)
WOAT heel run
Anonymous No.18466277 [Report] >>18466750
>>18449295
>Cena beats the fuck out of Cody
>Uses alliance with Rock for Travis Scott run in to win the title
>Cuts a promo saying how he spent 20 years doing everything for the fans. That he thought that was what it was all about, giving the fans a good show. Now that his time is running out, he feels alone. The fans didn't seem to miss him. WWE moved on and replaced him with Roman and Cody. Cena says that he is spending the last year of his career putting himself first. Doing whatever it takes to hold onto this belt.
>Fans are going to keep cheering him bc Cena is just great and they wanted him to be heel
>Cena starts acting weird when trying to be heel, but is met with cheers
>Doesn't cut that stupid Smackdown promo
>Turns face after losing to Cody clean at SummerSlam
>Starts cutting a promo about how maybe he was wrong. That the fans loved him even when he was at his worst. I am sorry for being selfish. WWE will be in good hands with Cody after I'm gone.
>Rock appears on screen
>Scolds Cena for losing, calls him weak and pathetic
>If Cena can't hold on to the title, he knows a guy that can
>Lesnar returns, beats down Cena
>Lesnar/Cena feud
>Then Cody vs Lesnar
>Cena can help Cody beat Lesnar after another celebrity run in

All that without forcing Travis Scott to do anything else. The Rock doesn't even have to show up, just film a pre-taped promo. Cena could have had a more interesting run. It would have felt like the fans had an influence on the story. Lesnar still returns. Cody still champ, but now has to feud with the final boss's lackeys for the rest of the year.

Any problems? HHH is simply retarded
Anonymous No.18466284 [Report] >>18466719
>>18449295
>i'm sure Cena tried very hard to pull it off
>Gives some of the worst promos in his career
>Still sells merch and wears gear despite turning on the fans making it seem more fake
>Still works his face gimmick of hustling despite the fact he should be a HEEL
>Tries to paint it as "I'm not a 'heel' guise', I'm a real human bean!!!!!!!!!"
>Refused to go all in on heel work and do actually heelish things and be an absolute asshole
>the REASON for him turning heel was extremely fucking stupid and took weeks to get an answer out of him
Imagine actually making that statement unironically in ANY capacity. Cena's heel turn absolutely could have worked but was utterly dogshit at every turn. Anyone saying "it couldn't have le worked bro" is a fucking shoot moron with zero creativity whatsoever. The argument of "OH BUT THE SMARKS WOULD'VE CHEERED THOUGH" doesn't MATTER, because Roman Reigns got cheered when he turned heel because it's not just what people wanted, but because he FINALLY gave people something substantial. Heel Cena could've been absolute dimes. It could've cemented his career and somehow made all his Super Cena bullshit retroactively great. The longest of "long term storytelling". But WWE is so obsessed with shock factor rather than quality and would willingly waste something this good for views and have the absolute disgusting shamelessness to go "lol you're a face now" and Cena AGREED.
You would have to be fucking blind to say that regardless of whoever is behind it, Cena is AT LEAST FIFTY PERCENT RESPONSIBLE for this failure because it's HIS character, and he has the most sway in the company. He could've easily said no or reworked it. Instead he said yes like a bitch.
Cry more about it how it could'nt have worked, you dumb faggots. Maybe someone will believe you.
Anonymous No.18466719 [Report] >>18466853 >>18468071 >>18470199 >>18471897
>>18461998
>>18464932
>>18466284
you guys are shoot retards. if you're a heel and people cheer you then guess what? you're a failure as a heel.

people need to stop trying to recreate hollywood hogan and accept that shit was just lightning in a bottle that can't be replicated. every attempt has been nothing but smark pandering & chasing the 30 year old high of the NWO.

make something original for fuck's sake.
Anonymous No.18466750 [Report]
>>18466277
>slow clap<
Anonymous No.18466853 [Report]
>>18466719
>If you're a heel and people cheer you then guess what? you're a failure as a heel.
Then I guess Roman Reigns is the biggest failure of them all. I'm not gonna explain the nuance since you seem to be intellectually inept and just say this: you are retarded. Thank you.
Anonymous No.18468071 [Report]
>>18466719
Retard
Anonymous No.18468113 [Report]
>>18449405
brock attacking cena was beyond retarded. why wouldnt brock attack cody and try to get a title shot?
Anonymous No.18468143 [Report]
>>18458319
>>18458403
and they fucked up the ending to that too. the natural reception to that story would have been Sami defeating Roman. but instead they interjected Cody out of nowhere and turned it into a completely different story about Cody finishing his story
Anonymous No.18470199 [Report]
>>18466719
Retard
Anonymous No.18470462 [Report]
>>18458319
The story of Rock/Roman and Cody was fun for WM40
Anonymous No.18471897 [Report] >>18472267
>>18466719
One of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on this board
Anonymous No.18472267 [Report]
>>18471897
But enough about what you posted last night