Thread 18545050

It's over for AEW!

>>18545050 (OP)
PORKWITHWHEELS AIN'T GONNA LIKE THIS ONE

>>18545050 (OP)
On what channel

>they all think heated competition and tribalism will save the industry
>that's what they think was the sole cause of wrestling getting over in the Attitude Era
Nah, we don't need to book a show that anyone wants to watch. Just saying the other show is BAD will be enough.

>>18545050 (OP)
AEW might actually beat them

>>18545083
What are you seething over? If you don't like either show then why do you even care?

WWE is going to need to send some more talent to TNA if this is going to work. No one wants to see fat fuck Sami Calihan and the Nemeths.

>>18545085
Unless WWE helps TNA out by lending some of their talent over to prop up its numbers

>>18545050 (OP)
well wouldn't dynamite just switch to thursdays then

Can’t wait for you guys to experience flipping between the channels like we did during the Monday night wars. Bret Hart on Raw and Hogan on impact. What a time to be alive.

>>18545104
i lolled

I think it’s probably more productive to help TNA get a better tv deal and help pop numbers for them. The CW deal for NXT is an embarrassment for WBD because Dynamite costs them 10x as much and gets fewer viewers. I don’t think TNA will get dynamite viewer numbers but if they can get 60% of the viewership for 10% of the price, it’ll further leverage down AEW’s price position at the next round of negotiations.

>>18545102
Nah tony is scared of football

>>18545104
Kek

>>18545109
More productive to get them on a different night, I mean. Rather than try to eat away at dynamite’s viewership head to head, instead create another data point that sets the baseline for what a 500k viewer show costs

>>18545101
How is that propping up their numbers? Is forbidden door propped up by New Japan?

TNA's fanbase probably has more overlap with primary AEW viewers than WWE viewers so they're not going to make the switch on Wednesdays & WWE fans will not watch anything that isn't actually WWE.

This is the end of TNA & who knew it'd be actual SUICIDE.

>>18545085
AEW is 100% going to beat them, hell i'd be surprised if TNA wins even on the debut. their roster is just too weak. but it's more about drawing away any viewers they can than outright winning. going from 30k to 100k is better for TNA even if it's not good overall.

>>18545109
Yeah this is the most reasonable answer

>>18545119
WWE is on every other night at this point aren’t they

>>18545109
Way more people get the CW. It's free TV in most markets.

>>18545135
TBS beats CW in every other time slot

>>18545120
Forbidden Door is one of NJPWs biggest pay days of the year. It brings in more for the company than WK.

>>18545050 (OP)
i want this to happen just because tna getting btfo'd is always hilarious.

>>18545050 (OP)
But disgusting fat smelly edrones told me AEW isnt competition..

Also, just to kneecap people saying CW, reminder they are only there because the new people who bought it are desperate for content & it has the lowest cost for advertising on broadcast & damn near every channel due to low quality content.

No shit, CW will be bankrupt in a year. LIV Golf did more damage than anything.

>>18545144
That’s cause if Tony was wants to play he’s gotta pay.

>>18545153
Yeah they’re competition. For TNA kek

>>18545063
it says
>WWE associated network
so CW or USA or like scifi I guess

>>18545163
>WWE wants to counter program AEW
>"WWE isn't competing with AEW. TNA is"
typical edrone kek

>>18545125
I can’t even name a tna guy. The two I knew left for aew. But I doubt their current roster is any less famous than the young bucks and John silver.

>>18545135
Sounds like Tony should have put ROH on there

>wwe affiliated network

Oh yeah, I betcha that TNA will win Wednesdays on Tubi.

>>18545143
Because wrestling fans are all poor.

>>18545135
No they do not
More people have access to TBS than CW
You are not American, stop discussing American cable when you know nothing about it

>>18545104
lmfao this is actually a good one

>>18545180
>Y-you're n-not American because you disagree with me when I'm cl-clearly wrong!
Nah, that's you, Raj.

This kills the dub

>it's over for AEW
bro TNA is a niche of a niche lol AEW fans aren't switching over to TNA to watch a Top Dolla match when they got Kenny Hangman and Ospreay

Please be for real

>>18545135
I tell people that you can still get free local channels with an antenna & they disagree with me, saying you need cable or streaming like Youtube TV. No one knows that CW or other broadcasting networks are on antenna due to retardation.

>>18545050 (OP)
AEW raped and gaped NXT in the last wednesday night wars! Oi, TNAfags. You wanna go to WAR with US?! We EliteTITANS will not take mercy against you. Do this if you want your company to fuckin DIE.

>>18545170
Wrestling fig status?

>>18545191
Fagmega, Fagspreay, and Fagman are all the most overrated most overhyped wrestlers of all time just boring bland indie vanilla midgets with no character, no charisma, and no personality

WWE basically sending TNA on a crash dummy mission. Some partnership lol

>>18545050 (OP)
Horrible move for TNA, they will draw about 100k for their debut on Wednesday(with the help of Nxt wrestlers) then the number will settle at about 50-70k

It's an interesting move since it's clear WWE is trying to push Tony Khan out of the wrestling market because they know once Tony is gone they can just pull the rug out from under TNA and send TNA back to irrelevance.

Miss me yet?

roman reigns better show up to TNA because I'm not channel flipping to see bubba lard or matt hardy waddling to the ring with his legs 5 feet apart

MAKE.
IT.
WORTH.
MY.
FUCKING.
TIME.

>>18545249
Wrestling fig status?

>>18545135
>>18545180
more like 10% more households have access to CW than TBS but more people watch TBS in general than watch CW

kek wwe being too scared to let NXT get raped again so they "partner" with TNA and set them up as the sacrificial lamb

hope it was worth it TNA

>>18545050 (OP)
>It's over for AEW!
We're now in Year 6 of this.

gotten to

LMAO aew about to get btfo by TNA

LOL Imagine they moved NXT to Wednesdays again? AEW would draw 300k

>>18545378
>AEW would draw 300k
they might not even get that. aew is way closer to 300k these days than they are to 900k

hunter cracking the whip and telling phil he has to now appear in tna is gonna be funny

>>18545389
If it's to try to get one over on AEW I'm sure Punk will be right there.

>>18545050 (OP)
aewtists are shoot TERRIFIED of what Thursday afternoons are going to look like after TNA gets on the CW on Wednesdays

>>18545229
you don't have to like them
you just can't be delusional and think that people are going to switch over to watching frankie kazarian instead

>>18545415
people already watch Ethan Page and Jacy Jayne instead

>>18545050 (OP)
Assassinated Status?: CEREBRALLY

>>18545050 (OP)
LMFAO what a bunch of cucks TNA really are, literally the fed's bitch

>>18545448
you sound nervous. shouldn't competition like this just push aew to be better? that's what you trannies always say

>>18545399
I'll actually up the ante, TNA would absolutely put the belt on him

>>18545084
yum

>>18545463
It will, that's what's going to rock because the NXT/AEW shit caused more people to check out early AEW & it'll happen again.

Maybe they'll move Smackdown or Raw to do the same thing eventually, and it'll happen AGAIN.

>>18545463
>Calls someone a cuck
>You sound nervous
Cuck type behavior.

>>18545463
kek AEW would fucking destroy TNA are you kidding? I'm just making fun of the faggots who still support LOLTNA after seeing them become a F tier program for TKO

I'm happy for my TNA brothers and sisters finally gaining success.

>>18545109
>>18545119
I genuinely think WWE are grooming TNA to take AEW's TV deal. Maybe not this next contract but the one after.

>>18545050 (OP)
this will help TNA a lot but i'd be surprised if this hurts AEW significantly.
very few viewers that are already invested into watching AEW weekly will suddenly decide to watch TNA instead. the type of fan that likes watching AEW style wrestling is just not going to be drawn to TNA by trick williams and fatal influence appearances.
the audience for this is mostly going to be the most hardcore NXT fans that are not also AEW fans/dynamite viewers, which is not that large a group.
TNA's viewership will go up a lot more than AEW's will go down, which is a good thing i guess. there are enough days in the week for both shows so i wish it didn't come to this.
i don't even watch AEW but i just don't want WWE to have a monopoly again so we don't go back to the late 2010s era again. they're even positioning seth as "the guy" again. the writing is on the wall.

>>18545482
how come aew lost to NXT both times they went head to head last year tho

KEK xirs acting mighty scared of good little tna

>>18545484
>>18545487
y'all niggas nervous af

>>18545050 (OP)
Somebody at TKO must have seen the Max numbers

here is the main quandry: lets assume that tna does get a new deal and moves to wendesdays, what are you gonna entice people with to channel flip and some wwe guy appearing going 'tna gud' and dipping out is just not gonna cut it, a half decent name and not someone who's in catering is gonna have to take a bullet and put over a homegrown tna guy (and by that I mean losing to them), let it be moose or whoever else that is not an ex-wwe old head

>>18545612
here's the main quandary: aew fuckin sucks and has been bleeding viewers and live attendance for years now and TNA is about to drop the big leg (rip hulkster) on them for good.

>>18545624
sure, anyone else who is not a mongoloid like this anon here have a decent answer?

>>18545612
only fat smark virgins watch aew anon. WWE has an audience that far, far exceeds aew's. WWE promoting a TNA show on Wednesdays on WWE programming would be very bad news for aew, no matter what cope you come up with

>>18545645
you can promote all you want but you still need wrestlers, so again who is gonna put moose over, no one seems to have an answer for this

>>18545050 (OP)
>it's another WWE proxy vs. AEW feud
Neat, gamethread nights might actually be fun again. I just wished WWE would pull the trigger and move Smackdown to Wednesdays to get the war started off proper.

>>18545612
>>18545633
a good amount of people that don't already watch AEW will probably start watching TNA but i don't really see many conversions happening.
yeah i'm sure they'll have AJ do a few appearances, and he wants to have that final TNA match with kaz, but that's not enough.
the only thing i can think of is beefing up their roster, that was TNA's #2 issue behind not having a real TV deal. but anyone worth a shit is either going to NXT or AEW, no one signs to TNA unless they have no other choice.

>>18545661
you're acting like aew wrestlers are actual stars, anon. they're not. they lose to NXT every week. Tatum Paxley vs Sol Ruca outdrew aew last week ffs

>>18545612
If they had Scotty Dimes booking they might win over some AEW viewers.

paul is trying this again? kek

>>18545674
so you have no answer for my moose question, that's fine

>>18545674
NXT isn't TNA

>>18545683
who put over Sol Ruca or Tatum Paxley? they beat aew.

WWE will send over their wrestlers and beat AEW easily

>>18545691
>anon playing dumb with moose
I accept your concession, I woulda picked Balor to put over Moose btw, but your peanut brain lacks so much imagination that you couldn't even think of that

>>18545705
you sound nervous anon

>>18545612
I'm an AEW guy so it's interesting seeing everyone attack you for actually raising a good point about this. They already know the answer to the question so that's why they're sperging out at you.

>>18545705
sorry who put Sol Ruca and Tatum Paxley over again? who put Oba Femi over? Sorry who put Trick Williams over? they beat aew every week btw

To this aligns with the schizo rumor i heard of WWE releasing talent to send to TNA for a "special opportunity" of more time slot.
WWE is sending TNA to sap all of AEW viewers with fan favorites who were "released"

>>18545757
needle mover shotzi

>>18545501
Even 200k viewers switching to TNA would put AEW sub 400k on their flagship show lol.

>>18545779
>Even 200k
That's a lot of people, anon.

>>18545500
If Paramount merges with WBD I wouldn’t be surprised if that’s how it plays out

>>18545779
well yes that is how math works thank you scott.
i don't think 200k viewers are going to switch. that's a huge number. i would be very surprised if there is a dip in the 100 thousands. there are just no draws on TNA's roster.

>>18545809
so you're saying that Sol Ruca and Tatum Paxley are draws?

>>18545803
WBD doesnt want TNA, and the moment the schism happens, WB is going to DISNEY, and Disney have partnership with WWE and TKO for side projects.
AEW is fucked

>>18545803
>>18545822
The alternative is NXT getting AEW's current deal and TNA getting NXT's deal.

>>18545050 (OP)
If it's still axs or USA noone is watching this shit

>>18545388
700 is 200 away from 900k, before even factoring in HBO Max. 300 is 600 away from 900k.

>>18545757
I'm glad someone else noticed. All these surprise releases like Cora Jade, Dakota Kai, Priscilla Kelly, Karrion Kross, etc are for TNA to pick up to put as much of a dent in AEW as possible, even if it's just 1%. same with putting stuff on different platforms to potentially hurt any future aew deals.

>>18545809
You know what could fix that? WWE releasing certain wrestlers to be good solidiers for a year and working TNA.

>>18545050 (OP)
Finally, wrestling on Thursdays

>>18545249
why would they?

>>18545779
TNA doesn’t even get 50k on Thursdays lol.

>>18545973
i think that's more of a side effect that is beneficial for WWE than something consciously done
if you were trying to send talent over to draw eyes from AEW, surely you could do better than dakota kai and duke hudson

>>18545980
lol

>>18545961
I think is to zero people's surprise by now that Elayna worked everyone with the OF shit.
Lets see how it goes

>>18545980
I know that video
>she filmed a few scenes after it before quitting to do webcam shit

when aew was in tna all they did was poach talent and have kenny hold all their straps
wwe is actually helping them become the 2nd brand

>>18546031
TNA’s highest rating of the last 5 yeaes was when Kenny first appeared.

>>18546041
your reading comprehension skills are abysmal

>>18545961
none of them have signed there

WWE is def giving some under the table cash to TNA (Like they did to ECW). So they can get more talent and stay afloat.

>>18546077
TNA is still independent, they can't tell them who to hire. But they can incentivize talent to seek out TNA work by featuring NxT talent on TNA and having TNA talent on Nxt. It makes it feel closer to WWE than just working the indies or ROH, small roles on AEW.

>>18545050 (OP)
I just hope they move their PLEs off Fridays because I don't like them airing at the same time as SmackDown.

>>18545109
WBD isn't only paying for Dynamite though.

Besides that, CW technically also had the NWA and they tossed that onto their app instead of running it on TV. They don't seem to care at all about the numbers.

What, unironically, did he mean by this?

What, unironically, did he mean by this?

>>18546159
Bingo, I don't think people realize that there is only value right now in something being live for television channels. Streaming caused everyone to get used to having it whenever they want, so the last not on demand thing there is is sports & everyone gobbling up everything is going to pop the bubble real quick.

I honestly think we see ESPN get spun off simply because of how much bloat they're taking on right now that Disney is going to regret as they also kill off Hulu.

Carlos says they'll go back to live shows when the deal is final. Networks are pushing for it.

>While it was not directly indicated that the destination would be The CW, it was expressed to The Takedown on SI that The CW’s interest in the promotion is legitimate, and that some WWE stakeholders would like TNA to be a part of the network.
Tony really fumbled not letting them have ROH.

>>18546188
Why would WWE specifically need TNA to exist to prove they aren't a monopoly? Wouldn't the existence of the hundreds of other wrestling companies be enough?

Getting an amazing new TV deal on a much more popular network is a state of managed decline according to the cagematch tranny.

>>18545172
You're so scared lmao

>>18546388
>followed by Dave Meltzer
kek

>>18545050 (OP)
grrr fuck TNA

>>18546388
Kek TNA really has they/them fearing for their lives

>The AEW fan has resorted to posting Twitter tranny sceen caps

He's scared.

>>18546388
By the way, Carlos has talked about getting a home base to do the live show from most weeks, like NXT does. Not going to a new city every week.

>>18545676
I only started watching TNA again because he got shitcanned.

>>18546286
the MLW lawsuit that WWE lost would prove otherwise

>>18546428
WWE will give them the TKO PC thing in vegas

>>18545050 (OP)
this is suicide for TNA if this is true they go through with this
that said TNA has a long storied history of always whoring themselves out for WWE table scraps so they would unironically be eager and willing to dive headfirst into a woodchipper on WWE's behalf with zero hesitation

>giving AEW two free wins in the Wednesday Night Wars
They haven't thought this through, have they

>>18545050 (OP)
meltzer is shoot having a meltdown at his home, his wife and kids are very concerned about his mental state

>>18545135
You will literally never ever convince these demented E-drones about this. Ever. I seriously mean it. It doesn't matter how many times you saw it. They cannot ever accept that CW is in more homes than cable because it would take away one of their anti-AEW talking points which is a support pillar for their psychological well-being.

>>18546537
why are you scared shitless of TNA? surely your company can win easily against them, no?

>>18546545
I didn't mention TNA once in my post and I have zero thoughts or feelings about it .

>>18546537
why does TBS beat the CW in every other timeslot tho

>>18545050 (OP)
One appearance from Blake on TNA is all it will take to overtake aew in the ratings

>>18546556
Because its content is more valuable than CW

>WWE sends TNA after AEW
>AEW sends NWA after TNA
>TNA sends MLW after NWA
Where does it stop bros

So they can’t beat the wrestling school, but surely they can beat the wrestling school’s farm territory, right?

>>18546562
other than aew you mean

>>18546594
AEW is undeniably valuable to TBS. Does that annoy you?

>>18546599
These averaged figures are completely irrelevant when it comes to the specifics of NXT's viewership. Part of me thinks you don't even understand what point you are making when you post it.

>>18546611
no but aew loses to NXT a lot even though NXT is on an inferior and less watched network so I guess that means that NXT is more valuable than aew

>>18546611
Big Bang theory gets better ratings and is cheaper.

>>18546624
You mean TBS loses to the CW in the "how many homes are you in" competition. It loses every week and has done for years. It is completely irrelevant to AEW or NXT, which have no bearing on those distributions.
>that means that NXT is more valuable than aew
If it's more valuable why is it on a "less watched" network, according to you?
>>18546633
And? Lots of things get better ratings than wrestling, including WWE. So what? Who cares?

>>18546642
>If it's more valuable why is it on a "less watched" network, according to you?
dunno but more people watch it than watch aew even though TBS has many, many more regular viewers in every other timeslot, except when you compare the pro wrestling properties on each network. it seems pretty clear cut to me that NXT is the more valuable brand.

>>18546622
>it's irrelevant because i said so
>heh you just don't understand
lmao ok lil 'cord bro

>>18546652
>dunno
I'll tell you why: the answer is because it is not more valuable than it was on USA. It has moved to a "less watched" network because it is less important and commands lower ad revenue than it did when it was on cable.

>>18546673
huh interesting anon I'm sure you have a lot of reputable sources for that tho right

>>18546676
Just to annoy you, I have asked ChatGPT and here is its answer. Inb4 crying, seething, pant shitting tantrum and denials.

>>18546696
>AIslop
I accept your concession

>In Q2 2023, CW losses narrowed to $78million; Q3 2023 losses were $60million
>Nexstar aims for CW profitability by 2026, supported by programming changes, affiliation deals, and leaner operations.
Apparently the CW is losing millions every single year and hasn't made a dime in profit. Who knew, huh? How come you never hear anyone talking about that? Is the CW ran by completely incompetent failed business people? Or is it.... that this situation is normal? Nah couldn't be

>>18546718
USA has double the ad revenue of CW. The actual reality of the matter is that NXT has saved CW from going bankrupt, but is getting far less money than it was bringing in when it was on USA. The deal is good for CW, and bad for NXT.

>>18546732
>is getting far less money than it was bringing in when it was on USA.
cool cool so you have a reputable source for that right my dude?

>>18546724
>Before Nexstar bought The CW in 2022, the network was losing about $100 million annually
So their strategy is working? Sounds good.

>>18546799
>show moves from a network with $1bn ad revenue
>moves to a network with $500m ad revenue
>but is bringing in more ad revenue somehow
Which is the bigger number, anon?

>>18546805
Yeah they cancelled all the capeshit and went all in on NASCAR and NXT. They're still in the red though.

>>18546732
>WWE is extremely happy about the announced deal with the CW Network today. it was noted during the TKO Group Holdings call that it was a 70% increase in rights fees. One broadcast source PWInsider.com spoke with last week believed the deal was worth "in the area" of $35-$37 million a year. PWInsider.com has not been able to confirm that number but internally, the belief is WWE were getting $15 million a year from NBC Universal for the NXT series.
Tell us again how this deal is bad for NXT.

>>18546860
If that's true then NXT was running at a loss on USA simply to kill AEW. It shows you it was never about the money to begin with.

>>18546832
They're turning a profit next year thanks to NXT. Very impressive.

>>18546881
The word on the street is that the CW executives travelled to the Wailing Wall just to thank Ari for saving their network

>>18545612
>what are you gonna entice people with to channel flip
TNA is better than AEW. This alone will entice people to channel flip.

>>18546872
>$15 million a year
>running at a loss
Source?

>>18546495
>this is suicide for TNA if this is true they go through with this
Incorrect. It'll give TNA a large cash injection and the best ratings they've had since leaving Spike.

>>18546929
I am Triple H and it was running at a loss because we wanted to kill AEW.

>>18546938
Nice try Paul, nobody believes your indie midget payroll was worth anywhere near $15 million.

>>18546823
sorry anon are you talking about the CWs total ad revenue? that doesn't really speak to the specifics of NXT does it tho

>>18547115
It's my fault, I didn't pepper my posts with enough references to AEW's imminent colossal failure in order to get you to automatically agree with everything I say. btw AEW failed.

>>18547150
so you don't have any reputable sources on NXT's ad revenue? disappointing but not surprising.

>>18546895
Zaslav can't relate lmao

>>18547161
>trying to argue with me that AEW failed
Why?

>>18546724
>Is the CW ran by completely incompetent failed business people?
Literally yes? What the fuck. They're changing their business strategy for a reason. No more capeshit slop.

>>18547201
The CW is a dimeless network that never drew a dime of profit in its entire existence

>>18546642
>You mean TBS loses to the CW in the "how many homes are you in" competition. It loses every week and has done for years.
Yes but that is irrelevant on how many people WATCH the channels. TBS has more viewers than the CW regardless if it's in more houses or not. AEW has less viewers than NXT not because of the channel or whatever Meltzer cope you want to spew, it's because less people want to watch it. That's all there is to it.

I know someone of you guys like to joke but legitimately nobody watches TNA

>>18547192
>deflecting
your concession was already accepted, anon.

>>18547214
Yeah, but that's mainly because of it being on a shit channel. I don't even know what channel it's on. Last one I remember was Spike back in the day when I actively watched it. If it moves to CW I legitimately may watch it again, even if I don't watch NXT. (Don't care about NXT whatsoever)

TNA TO USA

>>18547212
NXT had less viewers than AEW when it was on cable and more when it was on CW. I personally believe that NXT viewers are loyal and followed it to the CW, and the CW's regular background viewers who aren't necessarily NXT fans tipped them over into having marginally higher ratings than when they were on cable. That makes sense to me because I find the idea that NXT getting suddenly more popular when it moves to a different distribution network unlikely. I am not a console warrior, so I have no need to fit this into any sort of console war narrative. This is in stark contrast to you and many other posters ITT who cannot reason about this without contorting their brains into a pre-built narrative of AEW failure and WWE success.

>>18547192
He’s (?) just seething, you wouldn’t understand, E-King.

>>18546388
this guy is a fat tranny btw

>>18547218
AEW failed get that through your thick skull numbnuts

>>18547245
Not a console warrior either. I don't even watch NXT and barely watch wrestling as is. I just can't stand watching these faggots jump through hoops on why AEW's viewership has tanked and they use terrible excuses like CW being free TV means jack shit. TBS beats CW in viewership in every other time slot. It's pure cope.

>>18547294
Your post implies that you believe that AEW's viewership going down is because of lack of interest in AEW. Do you believe that?
>TBS beats CW in viewership in every other time slot
Because TBS content is better than CW. CW went all in on NASCAR and NXT. You don't understand basic thing about averages and outliers. NXT is an unusual show for the CW which performs well for them. That's why they bought it. The rest of CW's content being ass has no bearing on NXT's ratings. I don't understand what point you think you are making.

>>18547294
Very true. This >>18546599 makes 'em seethe and sputter cope.

>>18545050 (OP)
Where is my APOLOGY from the aewtists last week who said that WWE would never put a show on Wednesday because they're already airing Evolve that day?

I told you, we're going to KILL AEW and there's nothing you can do to stop it. Muahaha!

People keep saying TNA are just WWE's bitch. To me it seems like TNA fleeced WWE.
>WWE will keep them alive
>Access to NXT wrestlers
>Promotion on WWE's major shows
>Larger deals
If WWE just wanted a disposable show to run against AEW they could do that easily without TNA.

>>18547477
You're getting worked, kid.

>>18547323
>Your post implies that you believe that AEW's viewership going down is because of lack of interest in AEW. Do you believe that?

Yes. I think they were white hot with a ton of good will because people were dying for a real WWE alternative. I think Tony fucked it all up and people stopped watching because the show sucks.

>Because TBS content is better than CW
Besides the wrestling, then?

>>18547214
>>18547221
The worst and most likely scenario is the "sickos" all staying with Dynamite and not watching TNA. But even that can easily turn to best case scenario because as long as TNA can use a better network to rebuild the watchers it loses, then growing bigger becomes easier since the tony cultists will no longer be able to pretend they are part of the TNA fanbase

>>18547611
Do you understand that cable viewership has been declining for over 20 years, that it encompassed WWE's ratings decline when they were on cable, and that the trend pre-dates AEW's existence?

>>18547688
Yes, cable is a dying medium. But AEW's ratings are sinking way faster than other programs and it's not even close. You sure sound like you're a militant defender of AEW though with your posts.

AEW's ticket sales are also abysmal. What's the excuse there?

>>18547688
>cable viewership has been declining for over 20 years
weird how AEWtists only admit this when trying to defend their shit ratings

>>18547707
>But AEW's ratings are sinking way faster than other programs
They aren't though. They're sinking perfectly in line with the average decline corresponding to the rest of cable.
>AEW's ticket sales are also abysmal.
This the part of your post where you admit you don't care about the truth, you just instantly move onto the next talking point you have against AEW after your old one was disproven. You said in your previous post you don't consider yourself a console warrior despite the fact all your beliefs are fake and based around AEW being awful. I think you are a console warrior and that you don't care about what's true. Just admit it.

>>18547721
It's so weird that someone would post facts about something in a thread about that subject. I can't wrap my mind around what just happened it's too weird

>>18547733
>i only acknowledge facts when it benefits my argument
sounds about right lil 'cord bro

>>18547733
Have you tried not being aewtistic?

>>18547748
I will never stop being autistic and fighting for justice and truth, I am /pw/'s savior although it does not deserve me.
>>18547745
>cord
Since everything is projection with you I have to wonder how many "cords" you are in, probably dozens.

>>18547723
Your points are complete cope and you've exposed that you are indeed an AEW fanboy lmao. It's painfully obvious. The truth is AEW has lost almost half of their viewership in a few years. Their ticket sales have slumped tremendously by every metric.

I gladly shit on WWE all the time. AEW is just far worse and their fanbase are delusional faggots like (you)

>>18547776
>Your points are complete cope
Specifically which ones? Make an argument. Address things I've said and respond to them. What have I said that isn't true?
>I gladly shit on WWE all the time. AEW is just far worse and their fanbase are delusional faggots like (you)
I don't watch AEW so you are getting mad at something that doesn't exist.

>>18547762
your truth is subjective

>>18547796
>Specifically which ones? Make an argument. Address things I've said and respond to them. What have I said that isn't true?

Literally everything you retard, I'm not responding to you again.

>>18547808
>You're wrong but I won't say how or where or why, you'll just have to guess, anyway I'm going now bye!
This is what it's like talking to these people, it's just impossible.

>>18547776
>muh ticket sales
>muh viewership
lmao cry more
we got the wbd dealy bitch
and we got 10 fuckin billy
we whooped nxt and then you went silly

>>18547830
Wrestling school beats your ass every week

>>18547854
By making way less money?

>>18547854
we got 10 motherfuckin billy tho
and we got the wbd dealy
we gave hhh a heart attack
and then he became silly
lol
lmao

>>18545705
Trick Williams is the TNA champion and he's a NXT superstar. Your point is dumb because TNA & NXT have a working relationship.

I've always loved TNA :)

and I hate gAyEW

All WWE needs to do is put Roman Reigns on one episode of TNA as a surprise and they'll beat AEW every single night because fans will be expecting someone from WWE showing up unannounced

>>18548202
That's low key how NXT mounted a comeback and has defeated AEW in the ratings for the past cuppa years.

It's too bad HOOK re-signed with gAyEW. Would have loved to see him in TNA getting destroyed by Moose or Tessa Blanchard.

>>18545980
It's pretty common when you run up the score such that the game is no longer in question (NXT), you send out the JV team to get some reps in (TNA)

>>18547863
But did you remember to factor in the free chips and salsa they had to give out at Casa Tonita's?

>>18548307
>Casa Tonita's
Blahahahhaa!!!! That will never get old :)

>>18546537
>CW is in more households
>fewer people watch it than TBS
>NXT still clobberfucks Dynamite
lol

>>18546860
> PWInsider
You should know by now this site is a WWE damage control outlet. They got caught with their pants down twice this year.

>>18548637
Why couldn't they do it on cable? What changed?

>>18547723
>They're sinking perfectly in line with the average decline corresponding to the rest of cable.
That's a complete lie.

>>18548807
>What changed?
What changed is that AEW became terrible and consequently and a lot of people stopped watching it.

>>18548807
NXT's quality improved. A shocking concept, I know.

>>18548807
Audiences realized that Tina is a gormless, retarded booker with no real ideas and NXT under Gay Magazine Man's guidance makes for marginally better TV than Swineamite.

>>18548836
No, it's true. And "Wade" is referring to one specific quarter which was lower, which goes away when averaged out. /pw/ is insanely low IQ.

>>18548845
>>18548846
>>18548865
Or they moved to a channel with more viewers, and as a direct result, got slightly more viewers.

>>18548202
Ramon can barely be bothered to show up to Raw/Smackdown

>>18548878
More people watch TBS than CW.

>>18548878
so why did tina refuse put his product on a channel with more viewers if this is true

>>18548878
weird how TBS beats the CW in literally every other timeslot tho. considering that, I wonder why the wrestling show on TBS doesn't beat the wrestling show on the CW

>>18549156
It must be a TKO-funded conspiracy to make a promotion that no one cares about look bad

>>18549156
>I wonder why the wrestling show on TBS doesn't beat the wrestling show on the CW
Maybe because CW is in more homes than cable and thus has a greater pool of viewers to draw from than when NXT was on cable, like I just told you.

I genuinely don't understand why this is so difficult to grasp and why people deny it.

>>18549133
Not when AEW is on.

>>18545172
Their current roster is markedly less famous than Hungie lmao

>>18546537
exhibit A >>18545180

Meltzer dug this hole with his own hands. Me? If I owned 3% of a company, I'd help them improve. Not pretend they have no faults.

>>18549364
Last time NXT went head to head with AEW it won

>>18549869
Last two times if I remember correctly.

Nowadays, Tony will do literally move his PPVs to avoid some C-List NXT ple.

>>18545050 (OP)
TNA must have forgot the last time they counter programmed another show. Last time they had more star power and better ratings too.

>>18549943
You just don't get it. TNA doesn't need to win.

>TNA moves to CW
>Dynamite becomes the 4th most watch wrestling show of the week. 5th if you count Raw
>Tony has to pay Anthem to air Dynamite as AEW becomes Lol Impact

>>18546872
>NXT was running at a loss on USA simply to kill AEW
NXT was racking in millies in revenue, so I don't know about that. But even if it wasn't profitable, your seethe post is retarded.
WWE ran NXT at a loss for years to have a developmental program, meaning the value of having talent trained to their liking was greater than what they spent on it, in their minds. Moving to TV and getting literally any amount of revenue for NXT was gravy. But you've got a sad persecution complex when it comes to AEW.

>>18545050 (OP)
lmao TNA
No way you faggots aren't brown or mentally ill
Maybe both

>>18548225
NXT got a comeback by legitimately being a better show. Not necessarily better than AEW, just better than itself. B&G NXT was awful television and the 2.0 rebrand gave it life again. It was the only show with strong YoY for over a year based mostly on word of mouth.
The only main roster bumps it got were for episodes where appearances were advertised ahead of time. Beyond that, no one who watches has illusions that a top main roster guy will randomly show up. In fact, most main roster talents that do are shitters or guys that creative has zero plans for. The only exception was that Becky had a run with the women's title, but that got mixed reactions.

Most AEW Stan YouTubers and X accounts are yelling and screaming about this. It’s very funny.

>>18550204
I'll pretend you are being honest. Why would AEW fans be mad? They don't watch TNA.

TNA will not do much damage to AEW if they move to Wednesdays. It's too late now. AEW draws 550k-600k fans no matter what for Dynamite. TNA may be able to get 50k-100k fans who just want to watch some kind of wrestling on Wednesday's that isn't AEW though. Collision would be a lot easier to mess with since the big AEW stars never wrestle there.

Beyond that, TNA doesn't have the roster and the booking is not that good.

>>18550263
This is true. AEW has a thin roster and it's getting thinner. They lost like five of their top names just this year. They have some good wrestlers on the roster but the stories and production value are really lacking. Their PPVs are good, but I'm not into the weekly show at all. People act like it's a bad thing that NXT keeps coming in and beating their stars, but Trick Williams is a bigger star than the entire men's roster combined.

>>18550306
Kek, I meant to say TNA has a thin roster. AEW has a huge roster.

>>18550306
Yeah, I agree.

I think if they move to a live weekly show, the stories and wrestling should get better as they won't have to work around multiple tapings in a day and everyone will be able to wrestle on every show. But they still don't have the roster for it. I guess they can get more people from NXT to work the show, but I don't know if a Myles Borne or a Jasper Troy is really going to pop the ratings. The best case scenario is WWE lending them Performance Center talent that hasn't been on TV at all yet and having TNA push them as their own guys. Then maybe in a year or two, those people develop and can help TNA.

>>18550361
>the best case scenario is TNA getting a bunch of who’s? and developing them for WWE.
Sounds like a great plan, I’m sure that would work well for TNA in both the short and long term.

Is TNA the Predator in this situation?

>>18550367
I'm under the impression WWE already owns TNA in some form.

TNA is really bad at scouting/developing their own talent which is why they are in the position they are in. They really only have ex-WWE people...or current WWE people on their roster. I'm also under the impression that WWE is not going to allow their main roster talents to work TNA, just NXT talents. There's no big name free agents to grab either. Everyone is dead or retired. This solution helps both companies.TNA gets talent they don't have access to otherwise and WWE gets their talent more experience.

>>18550405
Dave Meltzer owns 3% of AEW

>>18550405
WWE is a public company they would have to disclose if they bought TNA.
What’s actually going to happen here is TNA is going to debut with fanfare and a bunch of NXT talents and by week 3 it will be doing anemic ratings and WWE will just pretend they never existed again.

>>18550494
It says they have the OPTION of buying it. If they bought it they would have to report it in their earnings report.

>>18545980
accurate

>>18545083
WWE has never cared about the health of the industry outside of WWE

They've already killed wrestling once. It's a miracle it's come back at all.

>>18545165
What's so scifi about TNA?

>>18545050 (OP)
Surely this isn't being slid

>>18552610
Kekola

>>18545050 (OP)
THE WEDNESDAY NIGHT WARS ARE HERE

>>18545050 (OP)
i don't care, i hope they all destroy each other. it's not about money, it's about sending a message. EVERYTHING BURNS.

>>18551706
ECW and slopdown used to be on scifi

>>18545059
He’s spamming fake ratings threads where he replies to himself hundreds of times, for real. You were not kidding LOL!

>>18545050 (OP)
So this is why trannies are deranged...

Kek he went back to bumping the Joshi generals, poor hoggies, when impact beats dynamite he's never going to leave his Joshipedo generals

>>18555361
What's he going to do when AEW folds?

>>18550494
nigga did you just cite a fuckin reddit screenshot as a source?

Why are AEW trannies afraid of TNA? there is no way they beat dynamite. Maybe collision but not dynamite.

TNA is going to win