the real iq test is the amount of decimal points in your bank account, not a mensa test

society does not reward intelligence or talent

but how much you suckup and sellout to retarded boomers who will never retire

thats the high conscientousness+ low agreeableness test

Would you still believe what you're saying if, say for example someone stole all your money

>being smart means how much money you have

>>81622064
>I fuck up some how some way
yeah, my fault, I should have taken the necessary precautions from getting jew'd and protecting my assets

>>81622056
mfw low conscientiousness high neuroticism
Im cooked bra

>>81622025
if you were smart you would manouver the system in your favor
but you are not and you rely on copes, but we all do. we all do

>>81622013 (OP)

I agree that IQ tests are not a good way to measure intelligence too but I don't think financials are either. I know plenty of dumb people who just got to take over the family business or break into an industry where they have infinite connections. Succeeding economically is less about how intelligent you are but more about how social you are and the relationships you have

the point i'm trying to convey with the other thread is that learning analysis and applied math and being an engineer is a lower path of resistance for someone like me because of scarcity reasons.

>bank account
yep you failed the iq test

>>81622097
>I don't think financials are either
no smart person would operate on the baseline of suffermaxxing for no reason, it simply is not a logical move

>know plenty of dumb people who just got to take over the family business
you are avoiding the point

>Succeeding economically is less about how intelligent you are
does not make sense

>>81622126
>the other thread
nigga who tf is you

>>81622132
nigga larping like he got kilo bricks of gold in his back yard
pipe down boomer

>>81622093
This retarded fuck larping as "intelligent" and can't even spell maneuver. Hilarious. Smells like Summer.

>>81622097
>Succeeding economically is less about how intelligent you are but more about how social you are and the relationships you have
Disagree because it's actually my lack of relationships and high IQ that have combined to make me richer than most people my age and on track to retire early. I mean:
>No interest in getting a gf, wife or having kids.
>Because of above, no reason to move out, or buy a car.
>Simply get a job and save 80% of my wage every month and put it in bank deposits and state bonds generating 5-10% per year.
>Get along well with parents and inherit the place and their savings when they die.
Meanwhile others my age:
>Annoying, post-wall wife who doesn't fuck them anymore and consumes a lot of money.
>1/2 kids that consume even more money.
>mortgage that robs them of 20-40% of their wage after tax.
>go on expensive vacation every summer because wife demands it. Only time of the year they might get sex.
>no savings, no investments, work till 70 or die early from the stress of wageslavery and childcare.
>some of them don't have kids but still complain about money somehow.
I'm rich because I'm socially retarded and have an IQ close to 130. Having relationships would have almost certainly resulted in me being your average wageslave.

>>81622154

>no smart person would operate on the baseline of suffermaxxing for no reason, it simply is not a logical move

dawg the only retarded person in this thread is you. You're right no smart person would suffer unwillingly by choice but when you oversimplify reality to the extent you are everything seems easy doesn't it? You are not factoring in burnout, addiction, human weakness that intelligence doesn't just easily overcome. Intelligence doesn't mean you are a unrelenting robot it usually refers to (from the normie perspective) good memorization, pattern recognition, logical deduction. Not hard work or hard will.

I'm not avoiding the point you literally just skipped over my point by nitpicking where I tried to explain why social skills are more important by only quoting bits and pieces of what I said. Even if you hadn't read what I said before you can see this sentence is clearly cut off


>Succeeding economically is less about how intelligent you are

>>81622013 (OP)
This means elon musk is the smartest man on urt right now.

>>81622093
there is no "manouvering"

you just suck boomer dick or they get rid of you. that's it

>>81622013 (OP)
There is almost no correlation between intelligence and income.
Personally I only have five figures in my bank account which I know is better than like 90% of Americans but it's still kinda shitty compared to how well I COULD be doing.
As a Mensan, though, I do agree that just "being smart" is not really a meaningful measurement of anything. It's much better to actually accomplish things and help people.

>>81622231

Okay, let me put it like this. On average I think social skills are more important but yes there is room for social autists like you if you are contstantly grinding. My conclusion isn't coming from just using one person (using yourself in this instance) it's looking at who from my highschool is succeeding, who from college is succeeding, the jobs I've worked who ended up being promoted.

>>81622301
>who from my highschool is succeeding, who from college is succeeding, the jobs I've worked who ended up being promoted.
You have no idea wether they're succeeding unless you see their bank statements. A lot of people have what I call "fake wealth". They have fancy cars, fancy homes and the latest iPhone/iMac but they are in decades of debt and live paycheck-to-paycheck. They don't actually own anything they have yet and they are one financial crisis, disease or disaster away from ending up jobless or even homeless. It is their social nature that makes them so financially vulnerable. If they were introverted semi-autists like me, they could've probably retired in their mid 30s if they began work at 21-22, had decent parents and invested their money wisely.

>>81622013 (OP)
>decimal points
So everyone's at 1?

>>81622420
I think it's obvious he meant significant figures

>>81622384

I know who is succeeding because I talk to people and you don't, that's why I don't need to make assumptions. you look at them like a man staring out of a window from inside of a house, I interact and get to know. Social people can succeed because on the frontend of businesses you need social people to maneuver conversation, the role hard working autists play is on the backend calculating the facts and engineering the products. I agree that the type of people you are describing exist, I just think that there is also a group of people who indulge in the same luxuries but are also succeeding so when you only look and don't get to know you generalize

>>81622432
Sure, but if he can't articulate his point accurately, why should I listen to anything he says?

>>81622450
> I just think that there is also a group of people who indulge in the same luxuries but are also succeeding so when you only look and don't get to know you generalize
Yes, of course. But those people are in the minority, from my experience. I work in STEM and not remotely, so I am forced to interact with people. I'd say 75% of them are like I described and it's only because they are stupid and/or careless with money and they lack the ability to delay gratification. They'd rather have material things now despite having to give back twice what they took from the bank instead of saving, investing and then buying those things without getting assraped by loan interest rates. Or just reconizing those things don't even matter and there's more to life than following the normie herd. A lot of people, regardless of IQ, just don't think outside the box and don't seem to ask themselves what they want out of life, making the same mistakes everyone around them is making. And they treat money like it'll somehow always return and things are always going to go smoothly employment-wise. It's crazy to me how many of them live on the edge of not affording food at the end of the month.

>>81622384
>fancy homes
Assuming you have a mortgage instead of renting, that's not fake wealth. The value of my home has more than doubled since I bought it 5 years ago. If I sold I would walk away with a big chunk of change after deducting what's left on my mortgage. For most people getting on the home ownership ladder is the most efficient, effective way they will build wealth. It keeps going up every month, regardless of your job title or performance. It's basically passive income that will be realized when you decide to sell.
>b-but muh decades of payments
Who cares, you have to live somewhere anyways. Unless you inherited a house or you're living in mom's basement that means you have either a rent payment or a mortgage payment.

>>81622204
im esl high speed schizoposting and too tired to autocorrect
relax nigga!
im too high iq to spell

>>81622248
I've set a trap and there is no coping or rationalization that you can do to break the simple fact that one is not smart if one is not rich
there is no out
in poker this would be a 100% win
you have no outs
its over

>>81622281
if you are out of the rat race you are amongst the smart, after that it does not scale linearly

>>81622291
all copes trying to escape the simple fact of not being rich and being poor while retaining your smartness level (ego)
no, if you are poor you are dumb, very simple
you cannot break out of this
its a law of nature

>>81622299
if you have below 3m$ liquid you are not smart, very simple

>>81622461
im too ascended to use language properly
brain operating at speeds too fast to process, language and typing is slowing me down

>>81622561
>below three million dollars
Don't you think a lot of extremely intelligent people can be satisfied with less money? Even setting your limit to a million would be more reasonable - you can retire off a million dollars.

>>81622013 (OP)
>the only intelligence that matters is social

This retard will blow up when he learns that many of the most intelligent people in history basically lived like homeless people

>>81622548
>The value of my home has more than doubled since I bought it 5 years ago.
I guess this depends on where you live. Housing prices have been going up in my country too but nowhere near at that rate. People still end up making a loss by the time they finish off their payments because of how scummy banks are. I only see housing as a good investment if you're buying a place to rent it for passive income.
>Unless you inherited a house or you're living in mom's basement
I don't live in a basement. I live in a comfy room where I have everything I need and I can close several doors if I want complete privacy. I get along well with my parents anyway and I don't mind their presence as I'm not forced to interact with them.

now it's time for those rejoinders.

>>81622013 (OP)
Everyone has a single decimal point in their bank account. The decimal point signifies the transition from dollars to cents.

OP might mean commas? But that's wrong too because morons inherit tons of cash all the time.

money is meaningless, if you only value money in life you will be dissapointed, I strive to become self sufficient to spite not only my government, but alll businesses, you cant make a dime off of me if I live in the woods and grow my own food, or hunt it

>>81622132
>gold and physical money
Yep, you failed the IQ test.
t. bitcoinmaxxer

>>81622025
>society does not reward intelligence or talent
because it's only useful to a point, and that's IF the smart or talented person is your lapdog