Being "trans" is a mental illness. It's not real. There's no such thing as being in the wrong body.

It just dawned on me, after I saw a documentary about a body modification addict who keeps chopping off pieces off of his own body. He has tattooed his entire body black, chopped off his nose, ears, fingers, and plants to amputate his left leg.
This is not healthy, anon. Then I realized it's no different from people wanting to cut off their dick. These are the same exact mental illness where you reject your own body.

The dangerous thing about being "trans" is that it's contagious, and it's been normalized by the masses and media. They could start claiming that schizophrenia and pedophilia are normal, and guess what, many people would buy it.
You have no idea how fucking dangerous and irresponsible it is for healthy people to promote and encourage people to physically change genders, and children of all people for fuck's sake.
And then these same people say Christianity is dangerous. Rofl.

No fucking refunds, tranny. You'll be used as an example and then forgotten about. Hope your suicide brings you peace.

I wish there was a discrete number somewhere showing how many children were mindbroken into mutilating their genitals during the 2020's LGBT craze.
I bet the death toll is comparable to the holocaust in a way.

theres nothing wrong with being trans.

>>81643454 (OP)
Christianity is dangerous, and it's the worst thing that ever happened to the west

>>81643539
Agreed, there is nothing wrong with being trans as long as you dont pressure anyone else what you do with your body shouldnt be any of our business anyway

>>81643579
It's not trans people pressuring cis people to be trans, but the exact opposite, as exemplified by this thread

Why cant men just crossdress for a while like the old days. Get the faggot out of their system. Fuck every redditor and twitterer that groomed children into mutilating themselves because they didnt feel 1000% masculine/feminine. They are ironically the biggest proprietors of gender stereotypes

>>81643596
Surgeries aren't done on children

>>81643589
Dont want to argue with you but There are absolutely trans people who pressure other people into being trans

>>81643579
why would i pressure someone else to be trans? i just help other trans people with passing better sometimes, thats about it

>>81643613
I didnt say you did I? Anon, just saying there are some in the community that are very aggressive in this stance, groomers exist in all groups and the trans community isnt immune

>>81643604
A fraction of the amount of cis people who pressure trans people into repressing, like incels in this very thread

>>81643624
you're just making the behavior sound like its an inherent flaw to being trans. it reminds me of people in like 2008 that were like
>i dont care about gay people, as long as they dont shove it in my face
where it sorta betrays a loathing already

>>81643539
Expect you're a delusional faggot who is suicide prone. Never have I ever had my dick fall off. And if it happened why would I feel okay about it.

>>81643454 (OP)
Mental illnesses are not even real. Its just all fake shit for normies to try and seethe over anyone not going along with their retardation.

>>81643647
You can be trans and have your dick

>>81643640
I guess as much as I try to be accepting I still have been around trans people that did force it down my throat, one even tried to pressure me to date her even when I told her my preferences, she even tried to tell me I was trans, thats why I settle for the whole trans people are fine, but dont pressure others

>>81643647
the most suicide prone demographics are bullying victims, yeah.
>Never have I ever had my dick fall off. And if it happened why would I feel okay about it.
i mean that makes sense, right? you're a guy. your penis is very special to you.
>>81643671
im sorry that happened to you. people like that are really gross. if that's your experience, i agree your biases are justified even though it's sad. i hope that sort of behavior ends. i think the anti trans backlash will probably see it happen though.

>>81643671
More than you have been around cis people who forced their anti trans rhetoric down your throat like in this very thread?
Your biases are blinding you.

>>81643671
I hope that sort of behavior ends soon, sorry if I came off wrong

Ruka is best girl (boy) by the way

>>81643728
>>81643697
Sorry wrong one meant for you

>>81643728
>Ruka is best girl (boy) by the way
true
>sorry if I came off wrong
no, its my fault. i'm sorry. i attributed the worst faith interpretation to what you said. just been being too defensive lately. sometimes you want to advocate for yourself but go a little too far, you know? thanks for clearing it up, im glad we didnt have a deeper disagreement

>>81643566
Pretty tired trollbait, anon. We only have moral codes, laws, a functioning society etc. thanks to 2000 years of Christianity.
We started declining the second we swapped it out for LGBT and feminism. It's all in the statistics

>>81643589
>>81643579
>>81643539

Nobody in 2025 would be trans if they hadn't heard about it constantly from the media.

It's contagious, just like gaydom. These "wrong gender" thoughts are not your own making, but you can't even tell.

>>81643797
Paganism and Rome had pretty good law and order, they even had voting at one point, there was no voting for the average medieval peasant under Christianity

>>81643816
that's more like saying you can do better to someone who doesn't gamble sadly

>>81643815
there have always been trans people though. its even permissible in many societies.

>>81643816
>there was no voting for the average medieval peasant under Christianity
>under Christianity

Are you one of those fags who think organized religion and the teachings of Jesus are one and the same?
Come on man.
Jesus was 100% spot on about everything, and corrupt leaders just took his words and started using it as a governmental tool.
It's not that hard to grasp.
Faith != religion. LGBT and feminism are religions. Following Jesus is not religion, it's faith.

>>81643797
What a historically ignorant take. The first code of law predates your religion by more than a thousand years

>>81643835
>Following Jesus is not religion, it's faith.
holy retard

>>81643835
I dont understand what your second part was trying to say but I really do resonate with you that organized religion fucked up jesus teachings

>>81643833
>there have always been trans people though

True, there have been "third gender" or "femboy" type of people in ancient cultures for thousands of years, especially in south Asia.
But it's a bit different. They're pretty rare, emerge naturally, aren't mutilating themselves and popping pills, aren't screeching, don't claim it's a political movement, aren't waving flags around.. and most of all, they are not mass produced like they are mass producing LGBT folk in the west to stop the white man from breeding.
They're just creating incels here, that's why the rainbow flag flies 30 days a year.
In 10 years most western trans will regret and attempt to detransition. It will be a sad sight.

>>81643815
>Nobody in 2025 would be trans if they hadn't heard about it constantly from the media
Then how come there was trans people before the media?

>>81643797
>2000 years of Christianity
Rome didn't adopt Christianity until 380. Europe wasn't fully Christian-ized (forcefully converted by the Barbarian Catholics) until about 1400 or so. So from then until 1685 when the Enlightenment started was the "mighty rule of Christianity and it's wonderful laws that shaped everything we do".

Pick up a history book and then comment again. The Catholic Church was a blight on the west and humanity in general and I stand by that.

>>81643835
>Jesus was 100% spot on about everything
Except for the part that he was the son of god and not just one more false prophet.
>Faith =\ religion
Cope. They're one and the same.

>>81643454 (OP)
>I was tricked into cutting off my dick/tits
am I the only one who doesn't have much sympathy for people in that situation? How dumb do you have to be?

>>81643856
>emerge naturally
Trans people emerge naturally.
Your own transphobia has you feeling that they aren't genuine

>>81643815
>believes human sexuality can be influenced by looking at the internet

So if we just showed gay guys non-stop big tits they'd un-gay? Is that how sexuality works in your crazy brain?

>>81643856
>They're pretty rare, emerge naturally, aren't mutilating themselves and popping pills,
thats not really true. hijras practice castration and medication didnt exist back then so it's not really fair to compare along that avenue. lepers also didnt use medication back then, but im not sure what that says about aynthing
>aren't screeching, don't claim it's a political movement, aren't waving flags around.. and most of all, they are not mass produced like they are mass producing LGBT folk in the west to stop the white man from breeding.
that seems like projection. your mind seems overly politicized. trans people are just people. obviously we have more at stake when whoever gets elected for president can just delete your name if he wants to because its a hot button issue. It just feels like you're not really engaging with the reality of being trans is, and are instead fighting against some conglomeration of a "greater movement" that you see.
i wouldnt even disagree that today too mayn people are transitioning now, but i think that is probably the result of environmental pollutants and not the media. every individual i know just does it because of childhood dysphoria, not seeing it on the tv or whatever

People only want to cut off their dicks and breasts because they arent just "body", they are social implications. The situation is different my bodymod addicts because one wants a release from implications, another adds them up.
The desire to be free and accepted is not by any means a mental illness. This desire can be exploited by some ill meaning individuals, sure. But for the largest part transphobia is entirely based on lookism. You are being a douche to normal humans, with normal human worries and weaknesses.

>>81643454 (OP)
there are physiological differences between male and female brains. trans peoples brains are closer physiologically to their chosen gender than their biological sex. their brain is quite literally in a body that does not match it.
>t. a cognitive neuroscientist.

>>81643926
i thought it was just that little folds in the brain are different in funny ways. can you explain the science science man?

>>81643873
Well according to some of the people here they were "tricked" by the internet that somehow turns people trans except not all the people because reasons

>>81643953
there are differences in the size of various regions in the brain across men and women. but the main differences is really the white & grey matter usage & lateralization. women tend to have more white matter and their hemispheres communicate more, men tend to have more grey matter and their brain regions in each hemisphere are better at communicating.

>>81643987
what do these differences mean for how the brain thinks?

>>81643653
So do you genuinely believe that you can have male reproductive organs & still be a woman then?? You dudes are delusional

>>81643998
we dont fully know. probably not a lot. its really hard to account for socialization with these kinds of things. women are better at managing several tasks at once and its really easy to attribute that to their higher interconnectivity, but it could be because theyve been raised to be good at managing multiple tasks and that could be exacerbating the interconnectivity.

>>81644001
You can be a trans woman and out of common courtesy I'll call you a legitimate woman to validate your feelings and be kind.

>>81644069
i see. thats really interesting. thank you for teaching so much anon.

>>81643857
>before the media?
You mean in prehistorical times ?

>>81643877
>believes human sexuality can be influenced by looking at the internet

They think a lot of things can otherwise they wouldn't have bans or care what people talk about on line. You can change the topic to Nazis, racism, etc, but it's clear people at the top and the majority in general do think the masses can be "influenced by looking at the internet" otherwise they never ban anyone over anything.

>>81643926
>t. scientist

Do you think animals in the forest one day realize they're in the wrong body and start biting their dicks off?
Even if such an anomaly existed, it would be very harmful and might lead to the extinction of the species if not weeded out from the gene pool.
We're embracing and celebrating something that should be destroyed at once.

>>81643877

That's actually totally how it works. Slippery slope, my friend.
That's how every pedo is born. They're accidentally subjected to CP threads on 4chan's /b/ for instance and after the initial disgust it starts growing on them.

>>81644192
what is your obsession with dicks? a lot of males use female behaviors in nature, but you're using this ridiculous analogy to make it seem unreasonable. like giraffes are just gay af. not everything in human culture needs to serve some machiavellian biological purpose like pieces on a chessboard. for thousands of years people have been in chastity for religious life but nobody was acting like a frothing retard over them choosing not to have kids to pursue a lifestyle that they feel is more fulfilling

Funny how all the fags and trannies are still teenagers.
70-year-olds aren't coming out of the closet.

This proves that it's not that "they weren't allowed to be themselves" in the past. It's just that youths absorb propaganda more easily.
Most people have always known that gay is contagious, which is why it was such a taboo.
Now people kinda know that pedoism is contagious and that's why people screech violently to pedos. People are afraid of catching it.

>>81644090
The media wasn't talking about trans people constantly 60 years ago and yet there were trannies

>>81644226
most of those people in gen z are cis bi / pan women that have never dated a girl or guys that think being open to having sex with trannies makes them bi

>>81644226
>70-year-olds aren't coming out of the closet.
You don't understand how hard it is to undo a lifetime of repression and prejudice ingrained in your mind.
Old people are set in their ways. The newer generations have the freedom the oldies never had.

>>81643877
Well that's what Robert Spitzer study worked out.

>>81644204
Then it should be a simple fix. Just show them non stop porn of adult women and they'll magically turn around. That's actually how it works.

>>81644221
Look, all I'm hearing when I read your post is just rationalization after rationalization after rationalization for something that's inherently irrational and dangerous, and I don't think there's no way out of it. I'm not an oppressive MAGA person, I'm legit trying to be as objective here as I possibly can. I don't think people should change their gender.
I was born in the 1980s and I've seen decades of what I would call normal and functioning life. You were born in the 2000s so people identifying themselves as helicopters seems normal to you, but like I said before, look at the stats. As soon as the rainbow religion was adopted, suicides went up, alcoholism went up, depression went up, birthrates went down, and entire countries are now being blasted back to the stone age. Why? Because our society was built around the concept of families. You will be living in a mud hut by your 60th birthday and it will be all thanks to the rainbow movement.

>>81644248
I heard that the pedo fantasies go away once you do no nut November

>>81644192
you do realize that humans are incredibly different from most animals right?
whats even more pathetic than your naturalist falacy is your fundamental misunderstanding of evolution or even basic reproduction.
if an animal bit its dick off it can not reproduce and therefore it is weeded out of the gene pool.

>>81644242
>You don't understand how hard it is to undo a lifetime of repression and prejudice ingrained in your mind.

I'm 40 years old. How dare you claim that I suffer from some kind of inherent oppression. Do you have any idea how fascist that is?
Feminists are mentally fucked the same way you are. They're claiming women in the 1970s were oppressed. I actually asked my mom and grandma about this. Both said they were happy as fuck and modern women will never know happiness of that degree.
Stop inventing hindsight fanfiction.

>90% of 4chan r9k people actually defend the rainbow religion

This thread would of played out very differently in 2008.
Kinda proves OP's point.
Literally nobody on 4chan was a leftist faggot in 2008.

>>81644242
>You don't understand how hard it is to undo a lifetime of repression and prejudice ingrained in your mind.

Earlier


>>81643877
>believes human sexuality can be influenced by looking at the internet
>So if we just showed gay guys non-stop big tits they'd un-gay? Is that how sexuality works in your crazy brain?

which fucking lane is it? You are claiming they can be influenced in a time where media was near no existent to hide what they are and stay afraid but now in a time where people get doxed because the criticized pride month or refused to wear a rainbow outfit that they can't be influenced to be something they are not?

>>81644257
Oh yeah rainbow countries like South Korea are just having high suicide and low birthrates because of how woke they are
>inb4 rationalization
i get it, this is just how deep you can analyze. i'm going to bed

>>81644257
correlation isnt causation dumbass. there are millions of things that are far more likely to have caused the misery we live in now.
queer people are such a minute fraction of the population, you can not possibly blame all the terrible shit in the world one less than 5% of the population.
maybe look for some actual evidence instead of assuming based on your own baises.

Can you LGBT folk explain why you shun pedos?
The way I see it it's part of the rainbow. You can't just oppress one sexual minority and celebrate another. Most pedos are non-offending, meaning they will never hurt another person.

inb4 the typical screeching about morals
Bro, you're acting the same way religious people are acting towards you. The irony is lost on you.

>>81643454 (OP)
She should not be able to sue them imo
She's an adult, she made her decision and knew about the consequences. She was not wronged by anybody.

>>81644313
>queer people are such a minute fraction of the population

Used to be, yeah. The amount is skyrocketing thanks to your brainwashing campaign, though.
They're waving the rainbow flag for 30 days each year. Why 30 days, you ask? To let the brainwashing sink in.
Christmas last for 3 days, Pride lasts for 30. There's no other reason to celebrate buttsex for that long other than actual propaganda.

>>81643454 (OP)
>hey, cut off my tits
>Are you sure about that?
>yes
>okay, but you have to sign this waiver
>cool
>*cuts off her tits*
>NNNNNNNNNNNNNNNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO WHAT THE FUCK DID YOU JUST DO TO ME, YOU RUINED MY LIFE YOU PIECE OF SHIT, YOU DID THIS, YOU DID THIS

>>81644335
why in the ever living hell would the lgbt accept pedos?
the whole point of the advocacy movement is to make it socially okay for men to have sex with other men, women to have sex with other women, and people to present how they want. Being an advocate for pedophiles in the same way would lead to real kids getting hurt, and a lot of us were victims in the first place. i got sexually assaulted by my mom as a kid and that was horrible. its really nothing at all like a homo experience or crossdressing.

>>81644304
>transfag helicopter thinks he's superior to straight cis people because of his made-up conditions

Back in my day, in the 90s, you would've gotten a good ass-kicking and you would've been straight again.
And you would've been happier and you know it.

>>81643465
only male trannies have the dignity to kill themselves, this one will make it everyone else's problem and find a way to blame men as a whole for what happened

>>81644335
children cant consent. it would be idiotic to have pride in any kind of mental illness or condition where someone is attracted to a minor, because acting on it is inherently harmful.
maybe some people are naturally born pedos and cant control it and no amount of therapy will work. if thats the case then i dont give a fuck if those are their thoughts as long as they don't act on it or indulge those thoughts in any way.
children can't consent. and adult can. thats the difference.

>>81644364

Making kids confused about gender identity is a form of child abuse, anon. A 5-year-old doesn't naturally go "I'm in the wrong body" until somebody teaches them that this is a real thing.
LGBT is the greatest child abuse organization in the history of mankind.

>inb4 you disagree and refuse to see what I mean
What a surprise

>>81644365
>you would've gotten a good ass-kicking and you would've been straight again.
one of my teeth are numb because i had my face shoved into the toilet as a kid for being a faggot and they broke one of my arms. sincerely, fuck you

>>81644290
>This thread would of played out very differently in 2008
I mean yeah. There was exactly one transsexual we knew about, Baily Jay, and no one would have known what the butt-fuck OP was talking about. We'd just share Bailey picks and jerk off in peace and ignorance not knowing the scourge of the culture war that would infect our good website in 7 years.

>>81644348
gender reassignment surgery has lower regret rates than hip replacement but sure.

>>81644373
>children cant consent
Children cant know about gender and sexual identity either.
Children arent sexual beings so they cant "know" that they're gay or trans.
>it would be idiotic to have pride in any kind of mental illness
I agree, which is why I burn Pride flags.
>acting on it is inherently harmful
Just like Pride movement.
>maybe some people are naturally born pedos and cant control it and no amount of therapy will work. if thats the case then i dont give a fuck if those are their thoughts as long as they don't act on it or indulge those thoughts in any way.
This is EXACTLY how I've always thought about gays and trannies. They were okay until they started brainwashing children. I'm a father so you cant possibly relate

>>81644375
>A 5-year-old doesn't naturally go "I'm in the wrong body" until somebody teaches them that this is a real thing.
no, they do it before but they got told "that isn't a real thing"
it's just two different sides of a coin. of course culture contextualizes our self-image, but implying that the one you grew up in was unevquivocally the true way of seeing things is silly.

>>81644388
Okay? What the fuck do I care? My point is that she made a choice and it's no one else's fault.

>>81644378

The Internet is mired in wars about sexuality/gender crap because of pic related.

I want everyone to look at this pic and think about it real hard.
They made us fight about imaginary non-issues to keep us in control.

The world is fucking ending and you guys are talking about this superficial crap.
Gays dont need a pat on their head for fucking men in the ass. What do you fags want? To be put on a pedestal for having sex with another man? You're not that special so shut the fuck up and fix the economy.

>>81644391
>I agree, which is why I burn Pride flags.
what a normal thing to do

>>81644344
queerness is on the rise but because its safer and more accepted. people are less scared to be gay and trans. see the left-handedness rates over time that another anon posted.
do you get work off in pride month? no. because its not a fucking holiday. its a corporate event to boost sales and apparently make you mald. there are months for fucking everything and days for everything the only reason you care about this specific one is because its popular and youre biased against it.

>>81644290
It wouldn't work at all because it's just samefag clowniery

2010
>everyone agrees with OP that LGBT is a mental illness

2025
>everyone is deadlocked in a civil war over the matter

Honestly, this kinda proves that it's bullshit. You zoomers didn't suddenly wake up to any realization about gays and trannies being right. These thoughts are not your own. You were spoonfed these ideas, you adopted them, and now you defend them emotionally. If you had been born but 10 years earlier, you would have an entirely different stance. Why? Simply because the movement didn't exist back then.
And I love how you will fix this cognitive dissonance with the good ol' "but people were inherently oppressed back then" fallacy.
You can say that about anything. You're currently not a Christian because you have internalized Christ hate. You're not a pedo because you internalized pedophobia etc.
These lies work because you're low IQ and never think things for yourself.

>>81644453
>queerness is on the rise but because its safer and more accepted

Ok what is your proof for this other than your personal, emotional bias that everyone has always been gay but they're just now allowed to come out?
I claim 100% of men are pedos, but they're not allowed to admit it yet, because you keep them down.

>>81644335
Fucking children harms them both physically and psychologically.
Fucking consenting adults doesn't. In fact adults who don't get fucked are harmed by it, see incels.

>>81644391
>brainwashing children
telling children something exists isnt brainwashing them.
youre right about not pushing sexuality onto children though. calling a child gay is just as weird as calling them straight. theyre kids.

>>81644499
The rate of left-handedness spiked when it stopped being shunned, then it plateaued.

>>81644502
Trans ideology harms a 16-year-old girl far more than consensual sex with an adult male.
Do you think girls somehow break from having sex?

>>81644290
This place was not a rightoid cesspool before 2016.

>>81644505
>youre right about not pushing sexuality onto children though. calling a child gay is just as weird as calling them straight. theyre kids.

True, but you also shouldn't tell your child that sexuality is a free-for-all.
Nothing is more toxic than telling your 5yo kid that he can freely figure out his gender and sexual identity in the future.
This is just another means for opening the door for the rainbow illness.

>>81644488
Funny how you think that pro gay opinions are the product of propaganda and indoctrination
But you don't think that your anti gay opinions are a product of the anti gay propaganda and indoctrination that you suffered in church and other conservative environments?
Seems like double standards

>>81644517
Bullying trans people harms them, which never stopped you.

>>81644488
>You're currently not a Christian because you have internalized Christ hate

>Everything is indoctrination except the fairy tales about my favorite dead Jew
So honest until you weren't.

>>81644538
>anti gay propaganda and indoctrination

I wish this existed, outside your head of course.
Look outside your window. You can probably spot a pride flag or two. Open up social media, Google play store, or the TV. It's Pride this, Pride that.
Holy shit there's so much Pride propaganda it's insane. Even though you love it, you gotta admit enough's enough. They haven't pushed anything this hard in the history of man kind.

>>81644533
It's not an illness. If you're not telling your child that he's free to figure out his sexuality, does that mean you will decide his sexuality for him?

>>81644488
how retarded do you need to be to believe this shit.
most people before the 1950s didnt believe non whites and women deserved to vote. people born after the 60s probably did believe that. because as a culture we learnt what was right.
oh and btw all my grandparents and parents support trans and queer people, not because they were born into it but because theyre educated and dont just assume the way the world thought when they were a kid is somehow morally superior.

>>81644554
>thinks Christianity and Pride are some kind of two competing religions or dogmas in war against one another

Get real, man. Nobody gives a shit if you want to fuck dudes. Like I said earlier, the world doesn't revolve around you and your fetishes.
I dont need to validate your sexuality no more than I need you to validate mine.
The whole "please accept my sexuality" thing is fucking childish. Cant people just keep it to themselves?

>>81644533
>you also shouldn't tell your child that sexuality is a free-for-all.
But it is. That's just telling the truth. He is free to be gay is he not

>>81644578
>most people before the 1950s didnt believe non whites and women deserved to vote. people born after the 60s probably did believe that. because as a culture we learnt what was right.

But anon, they were right. Women shouldn't vote. Women aren't rational creatures and feminism is basically just as stupid as the Pride movement. I say this as an IQ 130+ physicist. I can post Mensa score if you think I'm trolling.

>>81644375
Some kids are confused about their gender identity though, nobody is making them that way. Some kids are trans.
Your alternative is telling them to suck it up and repress, a recipe for suicide

>>81644234
Troons existed in the media centuries ago. Tf are u on ?

>>81644344
>Christmas last for 3 days,
Christmas decorations lasts for way more than a month.
1/12 of the year is still little compared to our actual size in the population. At least 1/4 of the population is on the queer spectrum. Most are in the closet though.

>>81644580
The thread started with dumping on trannies and like 2 trannies came to justify their existence. Pride shit makes trans people cringe too. Its not like we control it. Are you retarded? Youre hating us for things that straight people say on behalf of us rather than just treat one another like human beings instead of attack up. Its so schizo i cant take it.

>>81644583
At this point, if you were true to yourself, you should admit that now you're just spoonfeeding him with ideals.
And not just any ideals but sexuality-related, even though you just said kids aren't sexual beings yet.
Just admit that you want every kid to be a genderless faggot the same way Christians want their kids to grow up straight. The only difference is that the latter makes sense biologically. Our birthrates are abysmally low and our survival depends on it.

>>81644524
Did he claim that ?

>>81644611
Trannies existed thousands of years ago, you are moving the goalpost

>>81644619
I'm a devout Christian and I always feel the same way. People are lying about Christianity and the teachings of Jesus and then claim I need to answer for that.
Christianity is not some oppressive cult. The entire point of it is empathy. Literal all encompassing empathy and goodness. You know, the same thing you accuse Christians of being against. Funny.

>>81644488
This is not a serious argument. You are literally using the public consensus of the past to call the public consensus of the present into question. You can say the exact same thing about the past.
>You millennials didn't suddenly wake up to any realization about gays and trannies being wrong. These thoughts are not your own. You were spoonfed these ideas, you adopted them, and now you defend them emotionally. If you had been born but 10 years later, you would have an entirely different stance. Why? Simply because the movement didn't exist back then.

Also, I assume you believe in god, so you are retarded.

>>81644625
He implied that this place would be overwhelmingly queerphobic back then, which just isn't true.

>>81644580
>Cant people just keep it to themselves?
Can you please stop indoctrinating children with lies of the desert tribes?

Why not let adults choose if they love dead Jews when they're 18?

Why can't you keep your Jew-love to yourselves? Get real.

>>81644641
>Also, I assume you believe in god, so you are retarded.

I do, and I'm tired of pretending it's retarded, especially when the ridicule is coming from a self-mutilating pill-popping schizo who will most likely die within 5 years.
I have more credentials in STEM than you, so please don't talk to me about how "irrational" it is to believe in God. I've studied theoretical physics in university since 2019 and so far have found nothing to contradict the God hypothesis.
You reject God because you fear his judgment. A godless world will let you sin freely, so you choose it.

>>81644562
>I wish this existed
It does. One of the most ancient pieces of anti queer propaganda is the bible, which is still used today, and it's probably the source of your anti queer sentiments.
You don't have to go too far to witness anti queer hate speech, just visit your nearest evangelical church.

>>81644640
>The entire point of it is empathy.
I disagree. Paul dumps on wpmen so hard and YHWH hates foreigners and haplily murders them, Jesus calls the Samaritans dogs. The bible isnt really about empathy at all it's mostly about foreskins and god killing people he doesnt like

>>81644538
>that you suffered in church and other conservative environments
I never went to church and grew up in a liberal environment. What gives ?

>>81644652
So you fell for ancient hebrew propaganda and indoctrination.

>>81644647
>Can you please stop indoctrinating children with lies of the desert tribes?
>Why not let adults choose if they love dead Jews when they're 18?
>Why can't you keep your Jew-love to yourselves? Get real.

It's objectively a good and harmless system that resulted in the welfare state you now live in.
Can't say the same about your rainbow religion. It took your rainbow cult 10-20 years to wreck everything we spent 2000 years building. Congrats.

>>81644635
>Trannies existed thousands of years ago
Proof ?
>you are moving the goalpost
What goalpost ?

>>81644652
>so far have found nothing to contradict the God hypothesis.
Except for every piece of evidence of the natural history of the planet which greatly contradicts the genesis story of the bible.

>>81644654
>It does. One of the most ancient pieces of anti queer propaganda is the bible, which is still used today, and it's probably the source of your anti queer sentiments.

Anon, I live in Finland. This is totally an atheist country and we have even banned mentions of Jesus from our national anthem.
Finland is 100% queer at this point.
There was even a woman who sued the country because she saw the cross symbol in a public place.
This is pretty crazy when you think the same thing done with the rainbow flag isn't illegal, it's encouraged.
You should see the irony, anon. If you think Christianity is some kind of fascism, look in the mirror.

>>81644674
>good and harmless system

>>81644674
>It's objectively a good and harmless system
Maybe if you werent a witch or a heretic or wanted to do an autopsy or...

>>81644640
>Christianity is not some oppressive cult

>force conversions around the globe
>deny all other gods as "false"
>claim to be the only way to avoid magic torture (a threat)
>encourage followers to abandon critical thinking

If it wasn't so huge, or it were created last week, it would absolutely be a cult.

>>81644674
Your religion has done so much harm to the world, but none of it is greater than the harm brought up by different sects of the same religion fighting each other like tribal baboons, costing millions of lives

>>81644348
You have to understand that a lot of these doctors groom mentally ill teenagers into it. A lot, if not the majority of ftm for instance, were sexually abused. And instead of getting helped by psychiatrists and therapists, they get pushed into this pipeline. If you look up detrans testimonies you'll see that it's often the case. Mtf is mostly just autism, inceldom and coomerism though.

>>81644695
>>81644697

>people killed in the name of Christianity, so Christianity is bad

Do you honestly think they were even Christian? Did Jesus ever teach anyone to do that?
Killing is anti Christian. They were atheists justifying their actions with something that would fly with the general public.

>>81644657
>never went to church
>still a christian cherishing the bible
Right, the church came to you. That's the power of propaganda.

>>81644652
>god hypothesis
do you mean a christian god or just some being that created the universe.

>>81644706
>Your religion has done so much harm to the world

I dont see it. Check my post:
>>81644719

These are level 1 fallacies and non-arguments. Jesus was 100% right about everything he said, and you cant refute it.

>>81644719
>No true Scotsman fallacy
Your religion has been used to justify atrocities over and over again, and that is 100% compatible with the source material
>Mathew 10:34 Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not to send peace, but a sword.

>>81644718
>Mtf is mostly just autism, inceldom and coomerism though.

I often coom to the thought that I'm the girl in the porn that I'm watching.
This doesnt make me actually think I'm "in the wrong body" or some shit like that.
I keep one foot in reality. Fetishes dont need to be manifested into reality.

>>81644719
Luke 19:27
Non believers should be killed

>>81644721
Im not a chritcuck doe. Im another anon

>>81644718
Not even true of trans people in general. Detransitioners are faketrans grifters that werent trans in the first place. They usually force their way past the medical stopguards then blame everyone else because theyre narcissists

>>81644739
>Your religion has been used to justify atrocities over and over again
I ask again, did Jesus teach violence or did he not? Christianity is nothing but following Jesus. Anything beyond that, like the state church, is an entirely different thing. Of course it's a tool to control the masses and gain political power. I don't like it, but it yielded better results than feminism and LGBT. The west will fall within the following decades and I'm pretty sure you agree even though you like to seethe about the middle ages so much.

>>81644727
>I dont see it.
Out of willing blindness.
Jesus made some false prophecies about the coming end of the world:
>For the Son of Man is going to come in the glory of His Father with His angels, and will then repay every man according to his deeds. Truly I say to you, there are some of those who are standing here who will not taste death until they see the Son of Man coming in His kingdom
Matthew 16:27

>>81644718
>A lot, if not the majority of ftm for instance, were sexually abused.
Source? Sounds like the usual let's blame men for everything bullshit.

>>81644769
Thats an odd line because everythi g jesus said was 100% true. Who is alive that was alive 2000 years ago?? Hmmm
Makes you ponder

>>81643998
White matter is the antisocial part of the brain, strongly correlated with lies and deception. Gray matter is the knowledge part, strongly correlated with being a weird unlikeable autist with weirdly in depth knowledge of worthless shit and oblivious to social cues.

>>81644769
>>81644742
>>81644739
>some human said this, so God must be wrong

And yeah, women were oppressed in the past. But males are oppressed in today's world so maybe focus on that instead of hindsight bickering.

>>81644739
Isn't Deuteronomy part of the Torah? In all seriousness why is is some Christens follow the Torah, Talmud, etc with their teachings? They are not the same thing and contradict each other?

>>81644796
Wow you really werent raosed christian huh. You know nothing about orthodox doctine

>>81644652
I don't fear death. I don't care about your credentials, either. I am still a student, but that doesn't make me wrong.

I grew up in a Christian household. I don't believe in god anymore, despite my past conviction to the contrary.

Honestly, I don't care if you believe in god. Go ahead, it makes little difference to me. I threw my cheap-shot to draw out a deranged response and I got what I wanted.

>>81644796
>males are oppressed
women not wanting to fuck you isnt oppression chud

>>81644768
>did Jesus teach violence
Yes, he expelled the merchants from the temple with violence. Amongst other questionable teachings

> Luke 14:26 If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters, yes, even their own life, such a person cannot be my disciple.

>Mathew 5:30 And if your right hand causes you to stumble, cut it off and throw it away. It is better for you to lose one part of your body than for your whole body to go into hell.

>>81644817
Being forced to wageslave is oppression

Straight white cis-males are actually the most oppressed people group in the world.

It's true when you really think about it. Every other minority is untouchable and being put on a pedestal. Celebrated. The get jobs more easily due to minority quotas.
I refuse to accept LGBT screeching for this reason.

>>81644798
>Mathew 5:17 Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them.

>>81644822

Are you one of those schizos who claim to be militant atheists but actually have Jesus live rent free in their head?
I bet you watch viced rhino vids all day and ironically read the Bible to make it look like what you want it to.

>>81644740
Yes, but if you were like 13 and a lot of your friends would constantly tell you that you're "an egg" or calling you girly names, sometimes even your parents telling you that it's okay if you feel like a girl, etc. are you sure it wouldn't do a number on your mind?

>>81644762
>Detransitioners are faketrans grifters that werent trans in the first place
Sounds like you're part of the cult then. No different from any other cult. Raise any criticism or doubt against the cult? Die, traitor!

>>81644777
ChatGPT is not a source either, and I'm not interested in discussing anything with someone who believes that sexual abuse is rare. Enjoy being a sociopath.

>>81644488
You're absolutely right anon. And they don't like it.
You can sum up a lot of the worlds issues to cognitive dissonance. That's literally what it is.
Same as herd mentality. You must conform, less you be cast out.
It's a ruthless and cruel, lonely society.

>>81644833
>untouchable
Except that there are literally conversion camps for queer teenagers and churches thrive by casting us into hell, politicians are trying to pass hundreds of anti LGBT bills and queer kids are far more likely to experience homelessness and being kicked out of their homes than their straight counterparts.

>>81644768
If you are going to pick whichever parts of the Bible you like and ignore the rest, then I'm a Christian because I don't work of Sundays. Hail Satan!

>>81644833
Nobody should be talking shit to straight white cis males either. Jfc. I simp for boys hard. Why do you need tl devolve into a victim complex and attack others. Make a thread saying straight white men are cool and everyone with a frontal lobe says yeah cool dp your thing bro. Youre just insane and want to be the victim you damn crybully

>>81644488
>If you had been born but 10 years earlier, you would have an entirely different stance
There were pro gay activists in 1969 marching down the new york streets

>>81644858
Where? I want to move to that divine country.

t. Scandinavia (gayest place on Earth)

>>81644686
Not him but name three

>>81644853
>and I'm not interested in discussing anything with someone who believes that sexual abuse is rare
Naturally.
>Enjoy being a sociopath.
Enjoy being a liar. It defines your entire being.

>>81644768
>it's a tool to control the masses and gain political power
And to control you. You were subjugated by religious indoctrination, and your hatred for LGBT minorities stem from it.
You are the byproduct of religious propaganda

>>81644882
Enjoy being voluntarily blind to other people's suffering. It defines your entire being.

>>81644874
USA and every other country with few exceptions

>>81644853
>Sounds like you're part of the cult then. No different from any other cult. Raise any criticism or doubt against the cult? Die, traitor!
I mean yeah. Im trans but i think if your transition fails you should keep to yourself rather than harm other trans people with your bullshit. Detransition rates are very low but they are loud and obnoxious and exclusively ex ftms propped up by right wing media. They are a tool used to lie

>>81644851
>Did Jesus teach violence or not?
>Yes he did, here are the verses
>Why are you so obsessed with jesus?
The deflection of the century. An admission of intellectual defeat

>>81644876
The firmament.
Two contradictory stories for the creation of humanity side by side
Women coming from a man's rib mixed with dirt

Who is right robots? The God's lonely men or the trans atheist yet hail Satan freaks?

>>81644868
>Why do you need tl devolve into a victim complex

This is what I ask women and gays daily but they just screech and play victim.

>>81644867
Anon you're just butthurt and bitter towards Christianity. i see run of the mill atheists like you on a daily basis and I read you like an open book. You're literally one step away from becoming a Christian yourself, you just don't see it yet. I have a friend who plays black metal and we debate over these matters often, in a friendly manner ofc. He watches atheists on Youtube and then comes to me with new arguments. The weird thing is that he is more emotionally invested in this than I am. I honestly don't give a fuck what you believe in, because I want everyone to have the kind of afterlife they choose. If you want your mind to cease existing and go back to the state you were before your birth, you should be allowed to. But I do defend Christianity as a lifestyle model quite adamantly, because I genuinely believe it's the best way to keep this ant hill from falling apart.

>>81644796
I'm gkad you're calling the bible man made and fallible, it's like you're on your path of deconstruction

>>81644856
>if you agree with the current doctrine your a sheep
>agrees with the doctrine of 20 years ago which is still quite popular today
???
if you think that being a non-conformist somehow makes you right then the stonewall gays & lgsm have got to be the most based groups ever to you. the herd was completely against them.

>>81644889
By the way, chatGPT is an infinitely better source than your escapism oriented female brain "vibing it out" from diaries and whatever the fuck else to turn it into another justification to hate men.

Lying piece of shit. I'm so happy that wretches like you will never reproduce. This will be your entire life. Just taking notes of random shit and dreaming up ways to hook it up to your misandry.

>>81644920
>This is what I ask women and gays daily but they just screech and play victim.
Ive actually been the victim of hate crimes for being trans. Have you for being straight and white? If so, I would immediately take your side. But you're just selfish to your own condition in life and incapable or reciprocating that empathy

>>81644920
>I honestly don't give a fuck what you believe in
except for when we believe in rights for gay people apparently?

>>81644900
>rather than harm other trans people with your bullshit
Their story isn't "bullshit" and the very fact that you won't let them speak out gives them credit.
>Detransition rates are very low
Difficult to know with people like you harassing and threatening them all the time.
>exclusively ex ftms
Failed mtf tend to kill themselves.

>>81644694
You are not immune to religious propaganda, it infects the culture even without your approval. There is a church within walking distance from you. Your anti queer sentiments are derived from that religion.
Christianity is a form of fascism like every abrahamic religion

>>81644643
It would've kicked you for saying "queerphobic"
10 years ago was 2015, fuck off with your revisionism

>>81644925
I bet it I Google "current doctrine" it'll be why God isn't real 1000% confirmed gay Jewish science studies and why transgender and no genders is the next superpower.
Yeah. The 20+ year old doctrines weren't full retard. I'll stick to them.

>>81644676
>Proof ?
The earliest recorded evidence of transgender or gender-nonconforming individuals dates back thousands of years. Examples include Sumerian priests called gala who dressed as women, ancient Scythian religious leaders who lived as women or a "third sex", and various indigenous cultures like the "two-spirit" people of North America. Additionally, the Roman Emperor Elagabalus, who ruled in the 3rd century CE, expressed a desire to be treated as a woman and sought reassignment surgery.

The goalpost that people are only trans in 2025 because of the media
That you quickly changed to "there was always media pushing trannies".

>>81644923
>thinks LGBT is a better religion than Christianity

Anon this isn't even a debate.
Your entire doctrine is that two guys fucking each other in the ass and eating their own shit is something that must be taught to kids and celebrated on a national level.
LGBT as a religion is shallow, there are no deep truths in it. It stems from shame. Shame and pride are two sides of the same coin, that's why they chose that name I think. Adam is so ashamed of fucking Steve in the ass that they made an entire cope religion out of it.

>>81644936
>the way, chatGPT is an infinitely better source
It's not a source. Go lick Sam Altman's balls and live out your homosexuality instead of using women as a scapegoat for your shitty life.

>>81644949
>Your anti queer sentiments are derived from that religion.
Not him but i hate both faggots and christcucks (and jews and muzzies too)

>>81644941
>except for when we believe in rights for gay people apparently?

Gays have all the rights already. There is no more need for Pride, yet you simply wont stop.
You want more and more, like the hungry pigs you are.
Tell me how the legislation of Finland oppresses gays or any minorities? Prove to me that there is still a need for the brainwashing.

>>81644956
Better stick to the doctrine that demands you cut off baby penises

>>81644963
Did you know they chose the rainbow pride flag because the rainbow was God's covenant to Noah to not destroy the world and it's evil again in such a way.
Satanical.

>>81644945
>Their story isn't "bullshit"
Yes it is. If you consent to a medical procedure as a fucking adult you need to accept responsibility. Theyre an eternal child that needs to be victimized by the world and picks whatever grift works.
Real detransition stories are always family pressure or financial collapse. These performative tumors only come with right wing media. Its all a grift. The more you can see how right wing media captures this topic the more you can see how not worth talking about trans people really are. They manufacture rage and these detransitioners deserve to be zippertit freaks for not taking such a decision so seriously. They SHOULD kill themselves for transitioning then giving up. Thats disgraceful

>>81644955
Chuds like you only arrived here after the election. 4chan was always a place for queers, not seething rightoids.

>>81644971

LGBT fags like to pretend that if Christianity is wrong, they are right.
They're cherrypicking an opponent they think they can defeat.
In reality, LGBT can be wrecked with any logic in the world. LGBT makes no sense no matter what lens you view it through.

>>81644985
It was because all colours represented diversity.

>>81643877
If gay porn was the only porn available men would act more gay, stupid hypotheticals.
Internet and arguably all fiction supercharges preference for supernormal sexual stimulus, for men and women. Combine that with people not getting grounded by real life interactions and it's a disaster.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supernormal_stimulus

>>81644979
But I'm uncut anon. That doctrine doesn't affect my place of birth.
It's not a religious doctrine. That's literally the Jews.

>>81644978
do you think finland is the entire world or what.

>>81644986
>They SHOULD kill themselves for transitioning then giving up. Thats disgraceful
Least sociopathic transcultist

>>81644985
>Did you know they chose the rainbow pride flag because the rainbow was God's covenant to Noah

Yes. This says a lot about the Pride movement.
It's not a gay rights movement, it's just a declaration of a religious war between two religions. Pride is a competing state religion.

>>81644994
LGBT people exist. Queerness exist even in nature.
Your hatred for them is the senseless thing here. In the end, you are just a victim of propaganda and religious indoctrination.
That's why you project that accusation so much: that others are brainwashed, when it's just you.

>>81644994
>i ask to fuck a man in the ass
>he says sure
>two adults have consensual sex behind closed doors, are happy
please wreck this with logic

>>81644962
>Sumerian priests called gala who dressed as women
Clothing isnt a gendered thing. Dressing "as a woman" doesnt makes you one.
>ancient Scythian religious leaders who lived as women
Again, a very vague statement. What does "lived as women" even means ?

>That you quickly changed to "there was always media pushing trannies".
I didnt change anything cause im not the original anon you were talking to but that statement is true. "The media" isnt a recent thing

>>81644978
>There is no more need for Pride
>Keep spouting hate speech against queer people
You are the reason why we need pride

>>81645008
I'd post the "Turn ideas, products and brands into religion" image but it's not on my phone. Basically yes.

>>81645007
Life's not so valuable that you can't ruin it past the point of repair. Nobody has any damn self-respect these days.

>>81645004
>do you think finland is the entire world or what.

Finland is the most advanced country in the west so I use it as an example.
We invented the cell phone, the text message, IRC, Linux, we adopted the Internet earlier than other countries, we have had human rights and LGBT rights for longer than other countries, our government is 100% female..
Finland lives and breathes digitalization, feminism, AI, minority rights..
That's why I'm sick of having these debates, because our nation got over this hump like years ago. It's so cumbersome to see everyone else still having these discussions.
A lot of cities in Finland have already stopped hosting Prides because people feel that it's unnecessary to do so, and would only cause a negative effect. Gays have been allowed to marry and adopt for years now.

>>81645015
>LGBT people exist. Queerness exist even in nature.
Rape and muder also exist in nature. Your point ?

>>81644885
nta but I'm an atheist, raised atheist, and I hate trannies. I understand all the brain physiology shit, I know about all of it. Still, I hate them, because they are universally just really annoying people. They, like the rest of the LGBT community, attach themselves to any sort of leftist political movement and make it about themselves. Then they purity spiral and spit venom at people who don't believe in retarded propositions like allowing trans women in women's sports. They're whole movement is totally narcissistic and unserious. Id respect them if they were just asking for free hormones or whatever but instead they have to constantly be transgressive, insert the most extreme example of their ideology into all of the media they get their hands on, turn all conversation towards their own navel-gazing, have ridiculous public displays of sexuality (and before you try to equivocate, pride parades are way more degenerate than any straight examples such as Mardi Gras), and worst of all they push for the fucking retarded 8000 genders bullshit instead of just advocating for people who's identity doesnt match their sex.
Then, when you bring any of this up, they bitch and cry about "respectability politics". Well fuck you. If you don't want to appear respectable, I have absolutely zero obligation to respect you. And the thing is, with gays and lesbians most aren't like this, they don't necessarily associate with the pride political movements. All the trannies I've met are consumed by it, and it makes them totally insufferable to be around.

>>81644968
Just cut off your tits and get that fucking skin sausage already. You'll feel a lot better.

>>81645015
>Queerness exist even in nature.

Hitlers exist in nature too, doesn't make it right though.
Adolf Hitler was literally a naturally occurring phenomenon.

>>81645022
So dishonest how you skipped the most glaring one, an emperor offering a money reward to any doctor who could change his genitals into a vagina.
Back then, the media (religious scriptures) was propagandizing hatred for queers, and even then queers existed, shutting down your argument that the media is to blame for queer people existing.

>>81645008
>State religion
Can we just bomb everything already? It's impossible; I give up. Humanity ought to be destroyed.

>>81645016
>a man ask me to murder him
>i do it
>to consenting adults comit murder behind closed door, are happy
please wreck this with logic

>>81645040
Im trans and this is real. I hate trannies too but i am one.

>>81645004
Then go do pride parades in the thirdworld ?

>>81645035
Rape and murder have something in common: a victim being harmed by a perpetrator.
Luckily for us queer relationships are not only harmless, but beneficial to individuals even in nature: they diminish harmful competitiveness, strengthen bonds and alleviate stress.

>>81645047
>Back then, the media (religious scriptures) was propagandizing hatred for queers,
Its the opposite. Early christcucks promoted castration and ask the believers to cut off their balls. They were the original trannies

>>81645072
Rape and murder can also be beneficial doe

>>81645058
>are happy
One is dead, you can't even assess his consent after that. His life was destroyed.
Two lovers strengthen each other's lives, they don't perish.

>>81643539
BEING A FEMBOY IS NOT TRANS!!!!!!

Exploring sexuality and gender identity is NOT the same as cutting your dick off and turning gender issues into a religion.

I sometimes dress as an anime girl and fool around with my friends but it's normal, and honestly I think it's straight.
People here need to see things in perspective.

>>81645034
NTA but i just wanted to chip in.
>Advanced country, pro-lgbt, pro-women
>Happiest in the world
Im sorry weren't you arguing against LGBT? Doesn't this prove that it is a good thing to have gay rights and stuff?
I'm with you. I don't usually engage in this kind of conversation even though I'm pro-LGBT because it gets no where. It would be really nice if everywhere was like how you describe Finland and then there would be no need to have pride, but the rest of the world is not so advanced.

Making threads about how being "trans" is a mental illness, is a mental illness. It's not real. There's no such thing as "an objectively wrong gender identity" that actual harm to the "non-degenerate" average 18-40 year/old male 4chan/reddit poster (with 50 gigabytes of beast/loli/futa/rape porn, ofc)

"Hating the trans" is just a psyop to distract you from the 1%, that actively work to torment and enslave you, that can/have/will throw your body into a grinder if it makes their line go up

>Billionaires aren't your enemy! We may use you as slaves, but, uh- most transexuals arent like us! they're v. unnatural, unlike capitalism, my private mercenary army, 20 vacation mansions, and yachts the size of small towns!

The dangerous thing about being a bootlicker shill is that it's contagious, and it's been normalized by the masses and media. They have been claiming that oligarchy and fascism are normal, and guess what, many people have bought it.

>>81645093
Not to the victims. Only to the perpetrators at most. It's clearly a disharmonious interaction.
Unlike the harmony of mutual love

>>81645040
I agree with you, but I am trans. It is not possible to speak for a group of people. There are simply a great number of insufferable trans people. If it makes you feel better, there is a least one trans person that would sacrifice personal liberty for real, positive change.

>>81645072
>queer relationships are not only harmless, but beneficial to individuals even in nature: they diminish harmful competitiveness, strengthen bonds and alleviate stress.
Nah. It's always sexual deviancy and pedophillia.
Also gay couples argue more, separate quickly, some even resort to murder, more often than normal people.
I know a gay dude IRL. His a nice dude.
His also a gay furry fag who was abused as a child.
He could go on to abuse someone in the future.

>>81645059
Sounds grim
I'd imagine it probably gets in your nerves more, since it's more relevant to your life.

>>81645040
>but I'm an atheist, raised atheist
>Still subscribe to religious doctrine
You are not immune to propaganda

>>81645097
Tad insecure sis.

>>81645096
>One is dead
Thats what he wanted
>you can't even assess his consent after that
Why care about the consent of the dead ? Youre not some religious zealot arent you ?
>His life was destroyed.
Thats what he wanted
>Two lovers strengthen each other's lives
Isnt the feminists most common complain dometic abuse ?
Look up the rates among lesbians

>>81645109
>It's always sexual deviancy and pedophillia.
Except when it isn't. Your lies can't change the fact that adult queer relationships benefit those who take part in it, while harming no one in particular, and are also prevalent in every corner of the natural world.

>>81645104
>It's clearly a disharmonious interaction.
Thats just nature

>>81645115
>>Still subscribe to religious doctrine
No

>>81645131
>while harming no one in particular
Faggots cant reproduce so when they grow old they will be an economic burden on the rest of society.

>>81645118

I'm a straight white male, but sometimes I'm in situations where I pretend I'm an anime girl or I have to become a "zoomer onahole".

It's all good, I'm still 100% straight and male. You guys simply dont understand that sexuality is a vast universe. You can be a zoomer onahole dressed up as an anime girl and still go to work the next day as your straight old self. This means or changes nothing. Anything else is just stupid propaganda trying to make normal behavior seem like I need to join some cult of mentally ill weirdos.
Just let people have fun without giving it labels, okay?

>>81645131
>Your lies can't change the fact that adult queer relationships benefit those who take part in it
Oh really? Okay. Tell me how we produce new humans if everyone is meant to be gay then oh please sir?

>>81645134
Nature is filled with harmony, including homosexual natural love.

>>81645149
Nature is filled with rape and murder

>>81645115
You didn't even read my post you dumb fag. Do you think Stalin was tolerant of trannies? Or are you so delusional, you'll claim he was religious too? Not everybody who hates (you) is religious, and most "religious" people are barely fucking religious anyway, truth is your kind would not be nearly so hated if you weren't so damn annoying and if you didn't associate with totally ridiculous activist movements. If you focused more on the material issue of there being a mismatch with the brain and of HRT being the best proven treatment, you'd get way further. But instead, the whole pride movement is just obsessed with identity and purity testing, it's completely politically unserious.
As for being annoying, any time trannies make up a significant portion of a fan base, they fucking derail all discussion so it can be about themselves. All that pride shit is so narcissistic.

>>81645149
How would you explain to your mother that you have a folder full of animal gay porn on your pc

>>81645146
>everyone is meant to be gay
Not everyone, but some people are meant to be gay and trans, and you can't make peace with that.

>>81645169
Nobody is "meant" to be anything retard-kun, they just are

>>81645144
>Faggots cant reproduce
We can, we are not infertile or castrated.
Incels can't reproduce either, but life is not only for breeders.

>>81645114
>Sounds grim
>I'd imagine it probably gets in your nerves more, since it's more relevant to your life.
It does. I sorta had to seperate from trans spaces because of of the rapehon influx. Ill see mtfs talk about shit like impregnating people and it makes my dysphoria so bad i get sick. Its all boymoders and steves and it feels like nobody is taking being a woman seriously. It's just thoroughly cooked, well done. When things get harder i hope the trenders start detransing and we get some heat off for a while. Im just gonna keep trying to be as realistic of a woman as possible till it gets me killed no matter how retarded and mentally ill that is. Dont have another way to live when you are born with this condition

Their minds are contagious, contaminated... Even if you prove to them that white is white and black is black, they can't be seen to reason or similar footing... The process of demoralization is complete and irreversible.

>>81645146

Declining birth rates are one of our biggest problems. Far bigger than whether some fag feels accepted or not.
Gays should be less selfish and think of the community, if not our entire species.

We're dying off.

But before that happens, our countries will be filled with immigrants from 3rd world countries to combat this issue.
This will result in a lot of negative phenomena like rape and overall decline in living quality.

>>81645172
And you still can't make peace with people just being queer.

>>81643454 (OP)
Its true. I know several troons that just reverted to their old ways and one 'gay' guy who was actually 'bi' but is actaully just straight. When i was young i sometimes fantasized about being a girl, if some pedo groomer was around me at that time im sure i would have fallen victim to this shit. But it was just fantasy, i grew out of it like the rest. Some that play into it become diehard followers and that is the person grooming others into being like them.
In my experience and in people close to me body dysphoria is not real. And i see a lot of other people also online go through exactly the same.

Groomers need to be stopped.

>>81645188
>we NEED 20 billion laborers with low quality of life on earth, pronto!!

>>81645183
>We can
But most dont
>Incels can't reproduce either
They would if they could

>>81645188
The world was never meant to have 8 billion people in it. We survived long enough without such inflated numbers

>get surgery to remove boobs
>regret it immediately after
>sue the doctor
White women.

>>81645188
All this junk data growing at an alarming rate. We can't contain it.

>>81645199
If we dont need them lets stop immigration alright ?

>>81645195
Compare these two photos, anon.
What's the difference between them?
Imagine yourself as an alien from another planet looking at these two pics. What differences do you see, if any?

>>81645200
But they can't. The end result is the same. Your life doesn't depend on your ability to breed.

>>81645205
>We survived long enough without such inflated numbers
We also survived without faggot parades

>>81645217
>Your life doesn't depend on your ability to breed.
As an individual no, but as a society yes, absolutly

>>81645205
>The world was never meant to have 8 billion people in it. We survived long enough without such inflated numbers

Sure, but people in 3rd world countries will not stop breeding. It's only us. The average African has 6 kids and will continue to do so.
There is no "race war" as such, but the fact is, the world will be filled with blacks and Indians only because whites are seemingly checking out.

>>81645196
>In my experience and in people close to me body dysphoria is not real
In my experience it is.
You werent putting binder clips on your genitals when you were 8 to stop them from growing. You didnt have an opposite sex body in all your dreams and imaginings of yourself. You dont know what dysphoria is. It isnt just a normal experience. You cant empathize with it unless you've live throigh it, but you people are hylics incapable of appreciating that you can't relate to some experiences. It's not the world's job to make sense to you. Biology is just dumb.

>>81645212
>Diversity vs conformity
>People divesting themselves of anything that makes them unique, and following dogma
>Vs people embracing their uniqueness, forsaking dogma
One place is filled with hate. The other is filled with love.

Notice if you're gay or bisexual or trans or mtf ftm or pansexual, you're special. You're out on a pedestal right next to modern feminist women.
But if you're a man who's tired physically mentally spiritually? You're nothing.
The Bible predicts this is how the world would be.
It also says people would be more confused than ever about themselves, and how good would be bad while bad would be good.
To the robots who see it how it is, don't falter.

>>81645210
Yeah, of course. Why do you think i would want muslim retards flooding the streets. That's a false dichotomy made by the corpos to keep gpd growing 2% yoy

>>81645040
>pride parades are way more degenerate
Pride is chill and tame as fuck. It's part of your propaganda to take the worst examples you can find, and blame the whole for the crimes of the few.

>>81645253
The well being of men is becoming a focus for society now. Are you just ignoring the media or obsessed with that narrative you have?

>>81645219
>We also survived without faggot parades

Yeah the joke is that I lived in the 1990s and it was fantastic. Everyone was happy, society was functional...
I wanna punch every zoomer who comes to me with the audacity to claim that the 90's were a horrible time of oppression and prejudice. You weren't there.
Dude. There were gays back then, too. Gay rights movements have existed for decades without having to push it ad nauseum like this. The same way that witch hunts were religion going too far, we're now going too far with this gender/sexuality stuff. There are other things in life than gender/sexuality issues.. like people having cancer and dying in the streets. Besides, I dont remember anyone oppressing gays in any way when I was a kid. Stop making up history, it doesnt do justice to those who lived back then.

>>81645243
Theyre literally the same thing youre just coping hard

>>81645243
>One place is filled with hate. The other is filled with love.
My point was that muslims think islam is love the same way you think your religion is love.
Every religion, every cult, every dogma from nazism to LGBT has claimed the same things.
It's always the same.
You'll see, another fad will come and replace the current one.

>>81645255
Glad we can agree on something. Wish all fags would agree on that

>>81645279
>Yeah the joke is that I lived in the 1990s and it was fantastic.
Like the famously dysphoric Kurt Cobain who definitely was fine not transitioning in the 90s

>>81645253
The bible also tells you how to trade slaves and that you should obey your masters if you are one.
It's a terrible source material for your morality.

>>81645277
>well being of men is becoming a focus for society now
No they aren't. Male loneliness epidemic is still openly mocked online. Men are constantly shamed by women and gay LGBT people.

>>81645286
No they aren't. Go to mecca and raise a rainbow flag, you die.
Go to pride and raise a Islamic flag, nothing happens.
One place is filled with hate. The other is filled with love. They are polar opposites.

>>81645243
>Pride movement is love

Then why do you hate Donald Trump?
Leftists seem to be the angrier and more violent group. They're throwing death threats on social media all the time.

>>81645301
He was a celebrity obviously that makes things harder
And he would have killed himself regardless, he had constant severe stomach pain. Might've had celiac or some shit, who knows. Doctors still don't really understand intestinal issues.

>>81645301
Yeah, every depressed person just needs to transition and they'll feel a lot better.
Check out "black alien project". People who modify their bodies are chasing after something that doesn't exist.
This dude thinks he will be happy if he becomes an alien, physically.

>>81645303
What fucking book is your morals dickhead? Oh wait you don't even know what morals are, you have zero. Go suck a dick and put fist up someone's asshole, faggot.

>>81645319
>Then how come you hate corrupt politician with evil policies?
Pride doesn't mean you can't dislike things, sweetie.

>>81645237
wdym i was literately an 'egg' to be cracked like you say it. Fantasy is not the right word, actually wanted to. It was something on my mind 90% of the time. Even tried getting a girly voice. But because i was not groomed like you, you can just dismiss everything i said right? And ignore the actual troons i know who got into into hormones just to realize how insane this is and stop. Right? They did not go all the way so we're "hylics" or whatever. The cope is insane with you.

Why are there so many fucking LGBT supporters on /r9k/?

I'm a right wing MAGA supporter and I come here to be amongst my own people.
Dont you fags have Twitter and the rest of the Internet?
You wont let me have a single fortress of solace.

>>81645318
Go to a gay pride and raise a nazi flag. See what happens

>>81645340
Its raiders from /lgbt/ and discord. They already have a shit ton of boards and generals but they need to "sissyfiy" the internet so they never stop.

>>81645279
>I wasn't personally oppressed, so therefor no one was
>Didn't everyone in the 90s just listen to Metallica and play Street Fighter 2 like me?
>Is it possible I missed the overall happenings of the world because I was a stupid kid? Nah.

This is like an appeal to history that didn't actually happen. A fallacy inside ignorance.

>>81645331
>What fucking book is your morals dickhead?
Maybe not one who tells you to smash the enemy's babies against the rocks, or pillage and raid enemy's villages and kill everyone except for virgin girls to be taken as spoils of war.
The same book that tells you to give 10% of your income to god but don't you dare question him

>>81645332
>corrupt politician with evil policies?
Thats all of them. So why dont you hate them all equally ?

>>81645346
Hehe... Goddem

>>81645356
He's worse though, and literally a pedophile in the Epstein list too.
Also a puppet for Israel.

>>81645353

I lived in the 90s, you didn't. This is a fact you cannot deny.
In the future zoomers will deny that covid-19 lockdowns existed, I'm sure of it.

>>81645332
>Pride doesn't mean you can't dislike things
What happened to
>One place is filled with hate. The other is filled with love
?
All the sudden its ok to hate stuff if its approved by your religion ?

>>81645340
You think this cesspool is your echo chamber, virgin boy?

>>81645365
>He's worse though, and literally a pedophile in the Epstein list too.

Pedos are an oppressed sexual minority and they belong to the LGBT and I will NEVER stop posting this.
>yeah but they hurt kids
The hulking majority do not, because they're not inherently evil, they cant help their fetish.

>>81645355
Yeah if you're taking old testament literally you're retarded dude. What can I say.

>>81645365
>He's worse though
All of them are equally bad.
So why dont you hate the other ?
I hate trump but i also hate the others

>>81645338
I dont call ppl eggs thats gross af.
You arent trans, dont try to lump yourself in with me. Same with your friends that think it's "insane". There isnt a choice w/ dysphoria. I was never not the way i am now, just at different stages of access to medicine

>>81645374
>You think this cesspool is your echo chamber, virgin boy?
>virgin boy
>virgin boy

You're oppressing me. That's male hate. That's like maleogony or something.

>>81645294
>islam is love
There's no hate like religious love.
Pride isn't a religion. It's just being free to be gay and celebrate that freedom.
Religion is dark, bleak, tormenting.

>>81645340
Miga cucks are tourists just like trannies

>>81645346
>raise the flag of the outside group that wants to murder the inside group

You aren't German. The third Reich lasted 12 years and it was humiliated and disbanded six years into the war for global conquest they initiated. If you are any shade of brown, crippled, autistic, or have an orange cast to your hair the Schutzstaffel would have dragged you away to join the Jews in the extermination camps.

>>81645388
Dumb teenager can't even spell misandry. I'm surrounded by idiots.
Mise is greek for hate, andros means man, gyne means woman.

>>81645383
>You arent trans
nobody is. Its all grooming dude. I have seen and experienced people with different levels of "access to medicine" aka grooming going to various levels. And guess who went the furthest? The one with a gay cuck father with no morals. Its quite littearly grooming and the ones that go far enough start coping and defending their state like in the sunken cost fallacy. There is no choice to being groomed but continuing the cycle is a choice. You are sadly however too far gone and are trapped in it. No matter how much truth you swallow you will never *get* it.

>>81645394
>Pride isn't a religion.

I dunno man... you say anything against the Pride movement in public and you get witch hunt levels of heat on your ass.
I'm afraid of anything that I cant criticize publicly. Everything should be up for debate. That's why I like 4chan because you can still somewhat discuss emotional topics here

>>81645346
You'd get in trouble for raising a Nazi flag anywhere

>>81645369
>I was alive!
>I can say for sure no one oppressed lower class stupid white kids.
>Plus Crystal Pepsi was pretty cool.

That's about it.

>>81643797
>We only have moral codes, laws, a functioning society etc. thanks to 2000 years of Christianity.
10/10 troll
I cant resist to comment this with
>whats the code of hammurabi ??

>>81643475
Pretty close to zero. Bottom surgery generally isn't allowed for minors, except for when it's done to intersex infants without their consent because we live in a society.

>>81645399
As far as i know its the leftists trannies who call for exterminating white people. Modern nazis just want to be left alone.
(You dont have to agree with everything hitler did to be a National-Socialist, the ideology is much older than hitler and is not even from germany)

>>81645156
Which produces victims.
LGBT love only produces more love.

>>81645406
Further shows that nazis are the real victim of oppression, not faggots

>>81645403
>nobody is
truly i mean.
Its just people abusing your predisposition to this retardation.

>>81645161
>Do you think Stalin was tolerant of trannies?
In a time where absolutely no politician was tolerant of them, neither stalin nor Churchill nor Roosevelt
What matters is in the present day, the left has opened their doors to us, while the right continues to hate us like it's 1945 still.

>>81645421
>Which produces victims.
And ?
Faggots are hurting me by just existing

>>81645419
>Modern nazis just want to be left alone.
Blow me, retard. You're just farming (You)s. No one's this insane.

>us poor nazis just want to be left alone while we plan a fascist government with Christ as the King, and maybe a little exterminating of the untermensches. We're not fanatics like gay people who want to exist.
Okay. Uh-huh.

>>81645166
I'd say I use it to argue against ignorant homophobes on the internet

>>81645436
That's just because you're deep in the closet and seeing us being free is painful to you. A reminder of what you could have.
You're like the gay uncle ruckus

I'm super old, 35 years old. I remember a world where only 2 genders existed. Now we have hundreds.
Can you guys explain why this was necessary?

>but I want to be myself, I really want to be an agender genderfluid cis trans helicopter
Sure, and I want to be Iron Man. But I'm man enough to accept reality. You don't always get what you want.
I feel that LGBT people are kind of childish, needy and narcissistic. It's not THAT hard to live as a fag or a tranny in a world that doesn't accept you. Honesly, it's not even hard. Pedos have it a lot harder and they never complain. People literally jail them, kill them, beat them up, ostracize them with the full might of our species. You never hear them say a word about this. Yet you guys are in a position where you can wear a leather fetish outfit and parade around New York yet you still screech.

>>81645452
>fascist government with Christ as the King
Wtf are u on ? Nazis hate christcucks.
>We're not fanatics like gay people who want to exist.
And they are allowed to. But somehow white people arent allowed to have a country just for themsleves

>>81645461
>faggot tries to groom again
There you go

>>81645452
>nazis just want to be left alone while we plan a fascist government with Christ as the King
You gotta be trolling
I took the bait, my bad.

>>81645455
>>81645461

When Hitler was in power, 99% of the population thought it was a good thing.
When LGBT was in power, 99% of the population thought it was a good thing.

You just go with the flow like a sheep but you're IQ 100-105 so you can't see this from the outside perspective.
I dont follow any dogmatic ideology, I make my own decisions based on science and statistics for what benefits the survival of our species, because that's the only thing that a biological lifeform should be concerned about.
It's pretty nuts that we got to the top of the food chain only to go "nah we're vegan and antigender now". This means we will perish and chimps will probably rule the world after us. Or ants. I'm not sure yet. But they sure as hell wont be as meek as we were.

>>81643454 (OP)
Kid, i guarantee you've never had a thought about trans people we haven't about yourself. You'll never have anything original or interesting to say, so talk less and listen more.

You children have chosen LGBT instead of Christianity.

But I ask you this:
Can LGBT give you salvation? Will some kind of LGBT entity give you eternal life and wash away your sins?
One day you will encounter a situation where you need divine help, and some earthly creation will not help you.

inb4 ridicule
I posted this out of nothing but empathy, to help you. In 20 years you will think back on this post and regret that you attacked your helper.

>>81645512
Anon, there are two genders and everything beyond that is fanfiction.
You want me to listen, but if it's gaslighting, I dunno if I wanna hear. I dont want to sit down, have a discussion, and walk out thinking I'm in the wrong body and have everlasting anxiety. I don't want that. I'm happy being an "oppressive MAGA hillbilly". Try it some time. Crack open a beer, watch a hockey game, and stop thinking too much.

>>81645471
>white people aren't allowed to have a country just for themselves
I'm pretty sure there's an entire continent for that.

What's the matter? Scared to go back home? Scared they won't love the ghostly Jew as much as you do? Maybe they'll laugh at your tragically mutilated penis?

>>81645455
trans=/=gay. Gays can't help it, it's not a choice. It's just not. Trans faggots are just mentally ill. They are delusional. They are so fucking delusional. 50% of them kill themselves because they realize that they aren't what their delusions say they are. A vast majority are straight up depressed and fucking miserable because again, their delusions.

Look at pic related and tell me with a straight face that is a woman. tell me this person wakes up every morning, puts on a dress, makeup, and does their hair, looks in the mirror and says "I'm a sexy little baby."

Now imagine an actual girl, like I don't know, Mckenna Grace doing the same thing. One of these is just fucking disgusting and the other will make a dick/vagina hard.

>>81643815
Based Wyoming having literally zero

>>81645637
That was more than a decade ago. Europe was getting literally MILLIONS of immigrants every couple months since then. Arabs and africans were pouring into europe to just take shit over and a bunch of left-tards just let it happen.

There is a real reason why the UK left the european union. They wanted out of that shit. The UK is filled with disgusting fucking rape faggot arabs and they are sick of it. Yes, you have to use that kind of language to deal with these retarded roaches because they are too dumb to keep quiet about what they were trying to do... which is to take over europe in a soft invasion.

>>81645675
Migration into britan got a billion times worse after they left the EU btw.

>>81645734
umm, that graph shows there is less in britain sweetie. The grey is on the bottom, not the top.

>>81645787
>>81645734
Also, that graph is so fucking vague that it says nothing. Whatever it is, Britain is in the negative after brexit.

>>81645787
>The grey is on the bottom
thats britbongs leaving bro.
The dark turquoise is non eu people moving into britan.
https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-advisory-committee-report-on-net-migration/net-migration-report-accessible

>>81645799
>https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/migration-advisory-committee-report-on-net-migration/net-migration-report-accessible
Read your article mate.

>>81645637
>I'm pretty sure there's an entire continent for that
You literally posted proof that europe isnt white

>>81645799
>At its simplest, positive net migration adds to the population.
THIS MEANS
There is less immigration you dumb mother fucker. And look at the huge drop from one year to the next. That means some certain laws actually took into effect that prevented immigration.

>>81645637
>Scared to go back home?
Im already in europe and its full of niggers and arabs
>Scared they won't love the ghostly Jew as much as you do?
No matter how much you repeat that i hate jews and christcucks.
You seem to be a bot
>Maybe they'll laugh at your tragically mutilated penis?
Im european so im not mutilated

>>81645809
yeah wot m8
migration went up after brexit. "Millions per month" is also wrong.

>>81645823
?
Line goes up = more people coming in
your coping bro
learn how to read a graph

>>81645787
You can't be this dumb, that's British migration out of Britain.

>>81645188
>But before that happens, our countries will be filled with immigrants from 3rd world countries to combat this issue.
>This will result in a lot of negative phenomena like rape and overall decline in living quality.

>>81643454 (OP)
>white people cant take accountability and blame others
I see nothing out of the ordinary here.

>>81643454 (OP)
and you don't give a shit what do you care about these sick people

i'm trans btw

>>81644412
It can be amazing to bring this up to people who aren't aware. They'll call you a conspiracy theorist or otherwise crazy for suggesting it. But it generally falls apart and they give in when you link them the wikipedia article for 'progressive stack'

>be woman
>demand a thing
>doctors do a thing
>sue doctors
Women will do this and then wonder why no doctor will take them seriously

>>81645836
>"Millions per month" is also wrong.
several months you illiterate tard.
>migration went up after brexit. "Millions per
? This means immigration went down you dumb mother fucker. That's what the graph says. It's what the article says. Why are people like you so fucking dumb. You didn't even read the thing you posted.

>>81645836
>Line goes up = more people coming in
>your coping bro
>learn how to read a graph
You have to be trolling. You see the gray bar right? It's on the bottom after brexit. The article posted literally says "immigration is down." Like, are you an ESL tard or something? You clearly are but holy shit. You have to be arab.

>>81644372
They all need to kill themselves. This Jewish psyop is damn near 150 years old now. Arguably longer, if the talmud is a factor.

True ascension is realising we are not the body, so things like gender do not matter. Which was a tenet of most forms of leftism for most of the last century, erosion of stereotypical gender roles, etc. Now society went backwards and people are obsessing over gender and making it core to their identity. I don't get it. You are born with a dick or a vagina. It's whatever. Why care? Why the need to change yourself if you feel some aspect of you is more masculine, or more feminine, than your biological gender? Why not just embrace that aspect in your personality without changing your biology? The big mistake in conversations about this subject are in making them about hate or intolerance. Either right wingers actively using hateful words and rhetoric, or left wingers assuming any discussion about the subject is hateful. Imagine if we lived in a world where reasonable rational people could have discussions about things like this, without 'muh right wing' or 'muh left wing' infesting it and polarising everyone completely in two different directions, as happens with most issues.

>>81643539
Except it's self-destructive and off-putting to everybody you come into contact with, you might as well be homeless standing outside of a convince store arguing with your invisible friend.