Thread 81845385

All suffering comes from living conditional life. You trick yourself into thinking need something to be happy but really it's nothing, thoughts are not intrinsic they're just useful for survival. Everything you identify with,everything you label doenst exist.

>>81845385 (OP)
All life is conditional
And as stupid as it is yes I will cry because I want to live as a comfy woman instead of a stressful male life

>>81845385 (OP)
>You trick yourself into thinking need something to be happy but really it's nothing, thoughts are not intrinsic they're just useful for survival. Everything you identify with,everything you label doenst exist.
*breaks your femur bones* don't worry your intellectual bypassing said suffering isn't real :)

>>81845385 (OP)
i kind of agree
my brain is always seeking for that dopamine high. it doesnt matter how i get that dopamine all it matters is if im getting dopamine in my brain
i lose all interest in sex and dating if im living an agitated interesting life

>>81845419
Retard
>>81845430
Pain is real but suffering is optional

>>81845491
so suffering is a narrative? can agree with that
utter doom wouldn't leave room for narratives

>>81845506
Utter doom and pure bless are the same thing If you live a conditional because you need something to be validated to reach bliss and if you don't get it you experience Utter doom. Its like a elevator.

>>81845506
You do realize Utter doom is another narrative right?

>>81845532
>>81845596
nope it's a good enough pointer to the following experience where you can't even identify pain as pain anymore *breaks all your bones*

>>81845630
Again physical pain is real but mental suffering is optional, why don't you go try this bone breaking on yourself to prove me wrong nigger

>>81845668
you miss the point hard
since you get defensive from simple speech, here is a fact list instead:
1. enough overwhelming pain can shutdown your ability to differentiate pain from non-pain, more so constructing narratives like "suffering"
2. this can be called a state
3. this state can be called, for convenience - for language is exactly for empirical convenience. narratives are games for the bored, and some get addicted to games
4. utter doom is a good enough name for the state in this context. not a narrative since it's a pointer to an objectively/empirically verifiable state

of course I might be wasting my time here if you're gonna act like an amygdala overwhelmed negro

>>81845491
>Retard
Maybe I am but it fucking hurts so much

>>81845703
All that text is meaningless unless you broke your bones and personally experience this yourself nigger checkmate. How do you know any of what you said is true? Have you actually experienced this?

>>81845668
>mental suffering is optional
Lazy excuse to dismiss suffering. Physiological processes innate to all human beings are involved in suffering, you only make sense in a future where biohappiness is the norm or in the realm of the pure allegory.

>>81845719
yes. lol. pointless dumb argumentative pedantic posturing narrative animal shitposting
I'm outta here

>>81845740
That's your conditioning speaking for you that's not the true you.

>you only make sense in a future where biohappiness is the norm or in the realm of the pure allegory.

Another meaningless interpretation of life. You do not need to SUFFER.

>>81845740
Nothing ever turns out the way you think it will

>>81845853
You aren't realistic. You are ignoring the entirety of human experience, biology, psychology, and most of philosophy. What you describe takes inhuman levels of endurance only seen in people biologically altered to not suffer, or the most radical adherents of some eastern religions. I can say the humans can go without eating for a week, but in practice if a human has access to food this will realistically never happen outside of the extreme fringe.
>>81845864
It always turns out worse, far worse. I would like to be proven wrong and have something good happen, and will apologize if I am.

>>81845966
>You aren't realistic. You are ignoring the entirety of human experience, biology, psychology, and most of philosophy.

all of that is narratives and Interpretations of LIFE nothing more. I want you to take a moment and think about how ANY OF THAT actually has a control over reality and is not just a interpretation on life. ONCE YOU REALIZE THIS WORLD/UNIVERSE/ENTIRE EXISTENCE DOES NOT GIVE A FUCK WHAT YOU THINK AND HOW IT GOES ON WITH OR WITHOUT YOU THAT'S WHEN YOU BECOME UNCONDITIONAL

>>81845966
>It always turns out worse, far worse. I would like to be proven wrong and have something good happen, and will apologize if I am.

It does not matter WHAT you think reality can only be felt not dictated by some monkeys on some random planet. The human experience cannot be explained through words only felt. Every story and emotion you feel is not intrinsic to this world nor me but what is intrinsic is experience our actions. Everything moving. I keep fucking telling people you are UNCONDITIONAL but your not ready to let go of these conditioning and story's that make you think life has to be a certain way.

>>81845966
Also one last thing ill add is it is not inhumane to be at peace at all times. Our bodies need food to run and sunlight obviously among other things but when you start talking about philosophy and how life is meant to be a certain way that's when you start to form conditionings and start building a persona or idea that is empty and has no Inherent existence. This entire past week ive undone conditionings and I can look at the sink i see everyday and think wow that's beautiful there's distinction between me and this world/existence. Its hard to explain but I wish people would take my fucking advice because you feel AT PEACE YOU LITERALLY FEEL LIKE THE ENTIRE EXISTANCE FUCKING ITSELF PURE LOVE AND PERFECTION EVERYWHERE. At the ultimate level you feel this way because you accept everything as it is because you realize there was never a "view" or philosophy in the first place life cannot be tamed we can't even tell you where the laws of nature originated from.

>>81846203
*no distinctions

You literally become sucked in infinity. Even that does not do it justice

>>81845385 (OP)
No, my suffering comes from knowing this and having known this from a young age. As a result I've never identified with anything or fit in anywhere, not even here, and I live a spartan life because that's all I need, instead of falling for materialistic trappings like everyone else. And that makes me an extremely isolated, lonely person when we as humans need social interaction - not to survive but to maintain sanity.

>>81846683
You hiding from society is just another conditioning, you have a view on how life is and that is just another trap. The best view is no view on just doing what is best.

>>81846728
And just doing what is best*

You need let go of those preconceptions and put yourself out there before this body of yours is old because those preconceptions are not intrinsic your a victim to a story that doenst even exist. Your think you make the rules? You think you have everyone figured out? Throw that shit away because that is another conditioning.

>>81846728
I'm not hiding from anything.
I just can't make some trivial shit my entire personality or bring myself to give a shit about not having some trivial thing.

>>81845385 (OP)
women talk like this like they're fucking Confucius or something when it pertains to sexless men, but act like the world is ending when anyone mentions banning abortions because it would mean they couldn't get dicked down daily anymore.

>>81846769
That trivial shit is another conditioning you have in your head too. You said you "suffer" so what is it you really want? Im telling that the real you in unconditional you can be active in society and talk to people and be "free". How do you know what's going to happen if you haven't experienced it? Nobody knows what's going to happen and that's the beginning of freedom.

>>81846805
The hypocrisy of the vaginal jew is truly astounding

>>81846822
I want to have social proximity to others, but they seem to find me too complicated to bother with because they can't simply put me in a 'box' that sums up who or what I am.
I do try to be active in society, but people are visibly uncomfortable around me (more uncomfortable the more they talk to me) and I don't understand how to fix that.
I have experienced it for a long time, well over 20 years. I haven't given up but the more time I spend alone or being rejected the weirder and more detached from social understanding I gradually become.

>>81846880
>"I want to have social proximity to others, but they seem-"

Stop. Drop that thought and keep going that's all you have to do i can't trust you on if your being honest about going into every new interaction with a fresh headspace if I ask you but literally Ingrain this in your SOUL. Every new interaction is not the previous one you seem to conditioning yourself into thinking a interaction is meant to go a certain way now but drop it. There's no story and preconceptions about the new people your talking to so drop that too obviously.

>>81846880
If im being i would have to talk to you in person to find out what's really wrong with you because people can lie and exaggerate about what's really going on