How come so many women seemingly fall for antisocial men like narcissists and psychopaths? When it comes to personality and behavior, these are the nastiest types of people to deal with. They emotionally and financially drain you. Tons of normal men struggle with women while narcissists and psychopaths seemingly have higher success with women. I know for a fact that psychopaths typically end up losing their virginity at a younger age and end up having had more sexual partners at any given age, but I don't know about narcissists, but they might try to get a girlfriend or boyfriend to show off and for narcissistic supply.

Is there something innate to these men that make them more in tune with women's sexuality or some bullshit?

>>81908206 (OP)
because women are evil and love satan

>>81908206 (OP)

Dark triad traits are associated with dominance which is what women are really selecting for. In the wild world of 100,000 B.C. with tigers and barbarians roaming around, it's better to shackle up with a strong but cruel man than a weak but nice one.

>>81908214
Women typically have higher empathy (on average, of course), and these types of men will drain them emotionally and often financially, and they are seemingly oblivious to the fact that he guy is a narcissist or psycho. Women will heavily invest in these sick people as romantic partners and even pay for their shit while giving normal guys a tough time. It's like they perceive narcs and psychos as more masculine and more desirable as a result.

>>81908206 (OP)
>never gets angry
Its more that someone bland or boring in a way is an indicator that they are masculine, women dont want a child with you if you cant assert yourself, it dries them up. If they had your child would you be able to actually protect them from a psycho etc.

>>81908243
>Dark triad traits are associated with dominance which is what women are really selecting for.
They might perceive narcs and psychos as more masculine for some stupid reason, but both narcs and psychos are very childish in their behavior.
>In the wild world of 100,000 B.C. with tigers and barbarians roaming around, it's better to shackle up with a strong but cruel man than a weak but nice one.
Narcs and psychos are typically lazier and less tough. They just have zero empathy, so they want others to fear them. They have a drive to be dominant, but they tend to be very weak people mentally, especially narcissists. (Narcs will rage if you give them even minor criticism.) They just live off of others like parasites.

>>81908206 (OP)
I hang with other dark triads because its easier

Because they are interesting. They stand out and are not afraid to express themselves. Avoiding boredom is the biggest goal of female life. They really, truly can't stand it

>>81908333
>Because they are interesting. They stand out and are not afraid to express themselves
But they lie constantly . Then again so do women so.perfect.match. the overt npd male and covert npd female is the perfect psychopath match

>>81908300

Okay, well, women select for dark triad traits and force men who don't have them to mimic them because the traits work for the environment the female affinity for them evolved in. You point out flaws in dark triad men, but female selection and discrimination in sexual partners for what is most optimal for female reproduction is not and never was perfect, but it was good enough for the environment of 100,000 B.C. As a matter of fact, female sexual selection often lags behind contemporary natural selection, the question is merely a matter of degree.

>>81908333
>Avoiding boredom is the biggest goal of female life. They really, truly can't stand it
Can you expound on this? Tons of people say "fun" is very important in attracting women, especially in long term dating, while men don't really give a fuck if a woman can give them "fun," aside from sex, but most men aren't going to even consider breaking up with a woman if she can't "perform in bed" or be interesting in the bedroom or whatever bullshit; they just want a body to fulfill their sexual desires.

>>81908206 (OP)
Because they put up a sweeter front. Generally, these types of people will put up more appealing appearances to get people caught up in their web of nonsense. It's very much a case of "appealing exterior hides a disgusting interior" sort of thing. Most women aren't wise enough, and if they are often they throw caution to the wind if they really like them, to stay away. Then they get hurt, or abused and blah blah you know the rest.

>>81908420
>A husband and wife should first and foremost be friends, but she says she can't be my friend because friends don't have to rely on each other financially.
Run away from that woman. If he hasn't reproduced, then he should divorce her. Hopefully, he has a prenup. This has the same vibes as those people who say parents can't be friends with their children. That's how you create antisocial people, but those parents were likely antisocial to begin with.

>>81908492
>Because they put up a sweeter front. Generally, these types of people will put up more appealing appearances to get people caught up in their web of nonsense.
Yes. Exactly. They have no empathy and are super manipulative. Empathetic people have a desire to not be disingenuous and pretentious; they want to show their true selves to people.

>>81908573
Moreover, 99% of women don't know how to spot these retards and go on witch hunts because their ex-boyfriends were mean one time or something. It's a new Boogeyman, like being a communist in the Cold war era.

>>81908243
Earth is only 6000 years old

>>81908775

I don't believe in evolution and le "millions of years", but I am skeptical of this claim that Earth is only several thousand years old too. What makes you so sure?

>>81908206 (OP)
a narcissistic moid sounds like the most annoying being in existence, someone you would want to die in the most horrible way possible, so I wouldn't mind being around one because he would constantly make me extremely angry and I love having legit reasons to be angry at moids and wishing death upon them

>>81910313

>someone you would want to die in the most horrible way possible
>so I wouldn't mind being around one

just say it gets your pussy wet.

>>81908206 (OP)
women have a desire to date up and those pricks treating her like shit makes her think she is less and therefore she desires his attention and approval more than others.

>>81910313
>so I wouldn't mind being around one
You would be damaged psychologically. They are emotional sadists. You would be more likely to rage yourself and do something that could get you in legal trouble or damage your reputation, even though others wouldn't know the full story.

Terrorist hete.
Where's my cute foid fembot?
I'm an asshole. Never cry. And done prison time. Federal government said I'm a dangerous anarchist.
Where you at slut? Don't be shy I don't bite.

I gave many toxic/dark traid/ men a chance and they were mean to me :<

One even made a cyberbullying gc/hate gc about me.

The most recent incel i chatted up was just toxic to me in my dms. He didnt try to ruin my life or get involved in my life like da other one.

They all treated me as a lolcow/disposable person.

To be fair doe many of them were incels, I realized that men who are successful in romance are less salty and a lot more apologetic.

>>81913292
Oh yeah i know this thread wasn't about incels, but i think toxic men and inceldom go hand and hand. They get mad at the women who give them a chance because they want one particular woman or man to give them a chance (if they're bi) and get mad when the woman isn't their ideal.

>>81913309
Tbf why would anyone settle for someone that isn't their ideal? Its just stupid and setting yourself up for misery.

>>81908243
>getting raped by me
Gay.

>>81908214
Nah they are just stupid and easy to manipulate.

>>81913292
>I realized that men who are successful in romance are less salty and a lot more apologetic.
There are tons of wealthy narcissists who get women due to their money. I feel horrible for any women who fall get in a relationship with them. The same thing goes for men with female narcissists. Nobody deserves that abuse.