Literally all your experience is internal including everything you "see". Meat software running simulations.

everyone already figured this out like 20 years ago bro

>>82062491
no you didn't you barely graduated high school dont try to seem smart

>>82062485 (OP)
>running simulations.
I don't know if simulation is the best word. Because our surroundings are real. Our perception is more like an approximation of our surroundings than something entirely fake. It's interesting that every animal has their own version of reality that they view and none of them are wrong.

>>82062499
milquetoast materialism is sooooooo smart bro dont even touch me with your highschool shit broooo *BRAAP*

>>82062510
yeah rizzler you skibidi rizzazzed him! uh uh ioneven kno dog

>>82062485 (OP)
Your nigga point being

>>82062509
>Because our surroundings are real.
What within perception is real is determined by consensus, since schizophrenics will disagree with what constitutes our surroundings.

>>82062485 (OP)
op just took shrooms for the first time and is gonna go tell a foid about how "enlightened" he is and how it "opened his eyes"

>>82062526
gay sex must be pre-programmed visually in the human brain we are all faggots by nature

>>82062536
yuh yuh im on that skibidi shrooms bruh yuh

Drugs are for baby faggots, don't try to seem intelligent and experienced.

>>82062530
>What within perception is real is determined by consensus
What I'm saying is that *something* exists. That much is obvious. There has to be something for our brains to interpret. It's just everyone's interpretation will most likely vary. People having conflicting interpretations doesn't make our surroundings fake.

>>82062546
Bend over I'm going to open your turd eye

>>82062485 (OP)
Cool stuff all around desu

>>82062553
We have no way of knowing how much of our sensory experience is generated entirely internally without external stimulus of any kind because total sensory deprivation from birth is impossible and even if it were possible, results in a total inability to communicate any meaningful information about internal experiences.

There has to be positive evidence that our surroundings are real, and to do find that evidence we have to account for all wholly internal experiences. Any particular perceptual "point" of our surroundings could be collectively hallucinated.

>>82062586
I guess, anon. That just seems kind of pointless to talk about though and makes much less sense than everyone just interpreting data from an existing reality. Rather than us existing in nothing and completely making everything up.

>>82062628
I choose to see your sneedus.

>>82062485 (OP)
So what? It still does a good job of corresponding to external reality. It's not arbitrary.

>>82062530
In any conflict between perception and reality, reality wins.

>>82062586
>There has to be positive evidence that our surroundings are real,
Why? You have chosen this standard arbitrarily.

>>82062485 (OP)
Ok but why is the simulation i'm running so shitty

>>82062491
>20 years ago
Nigga Schopenhauer was talking about this in the early 19th century

>>82062509
Yes, and Opie is a fucking idiot. But he is right, in regards to..... dreaming! That's when our minds literally create simulations for itself!

But back to OP. Dude, you are dumb