Thread 82088522

>porn is lel bad cuz it fucks up your view of women and gives u ED
WHO CARES im gonna be a virgin 4life
>porn is le bad cuz the whores that do it get groomed into it
and yet you faggots still wear tshirts bathed in the blood of Bangladeshi children
yes i can be addictive like any other vice but why do people, especially women, seem so hell bent on destroying it

>>82088522 (OP)
actually i DON'T wear shirts like that because everything i get is secondhand and thrifted. both of those things are bad and should be destroyed?

>>82088522 (OP)
Uhh women are trash so maybe it's just Good that people's views on them are altered so they don't become the default simp/white knight faggot.

>>82088551
also when i say destroyed i mean the practice of putting pressure on women to participate in sex work because of money and poverty. obviously there are some women who want to do it for other reasons and if they have enough mental capacity for it then there's nothing wrong with them doing it (if it was a choice with minimal manipulation, coercion and removal of autonomy). like maybe there should be guidelines in place for sex workers to understand whether or not they're making the decision with autonomy (such as being over a certain earning range, how much of a support network they have, why they're doing it, what the services around them can support them with if things go bad)

>>82088522 (OP)
>>porn is le bad cuz the whores that do it get groomed into it
This is the biggest cope ever.
Unless you're talking about literal cp or rape stuff, the women in porn are adults and should be held responsible for their actions.
No, you weren't "groomed" into showing your bare ass for millions of people to see. You said yes to someone asking you to. Were you poor and needed money? You could've gotten a job. Were you ""coerced"" or manipulated into it by someone? What are you, 5? If someone threatened you, call the police, and if you were sweet talked into it, that speaks more of your lack of willpower and principles than blaming some hoodrat with a silver tongue.
I have zero sympathy for women starring in porn, but I don't watch it anyway.

>>82088620
I don't want to work at all, I don't see why "sex workers" should get a special test to make sure they have a support network if normal wageslaves are still expected to slave away just to survive

>>82088623
>NOOOOOOOO SHES A 26 Y/O CHILD YOU FUCKING CHUD

>>82088522 (OP)
The average woman is a single bad day away from selling their holes online so no shit they sympathise with ewhores

>>82088644
i think sex work is categorically different from wageslaving because it reduces women down to their vaginas, and reinforces the already mainstream idea that the only use for women is their vaginas. if there was a world where women could do sex work without this opinion or the work already being viewed through the lens of a misogynistic consumerx that would be great, but as it stands, sex work is not only reinforcing capitalism, like wageslaving does, but it also reinforces gender roles, discrimination and sexism, even if meant for empowerment. we've already seen how males view sex work, and it HASN'T increased their respect for women by any margin (even if there is nothing wrong with women having sex). sex work has far more drastic consequences for the life of a woman than it does for a male, such as work discrimination in future, discrimination in dating and marriage, reputation removal. wageslaving doesn't have many of the same gendered consequences that sex work does

They do it because it's easier and better money than real work. Nigger

>>82088727
>i think sex work is categorically different from wageslaving because it reduces women down to their vaginas, and reinforces the already mainstream idea that the only use for women is their vaginas
And working in a warehouse reduces me to my arms and my back
>sex work has far more drastic consequences for the life of a woman than it does for a male, such as work discrimination in future, discrimination in dating and marriage
It doesn't have any of that, porn whores get married all the time and have armies of simps. Meanwhile the average blue collar worker or service worker has no chance of ever getting a professional career, and destroys his body for a pittance.

>>82088727
>sex work has far more drastic consequences for the life of a woman than it does for a male
all you have to do is pretend to be christian and then you get a betabucks who'll support you for the rest of your life

>>82088727
100,000,000x more men would date an OF girl than women would date a guy with some shitty job as a janitor

>>82088790
my respect for the virtue of truth demands that i don't use others for material meaningless gains and frankly i hate this system of reliance on males to get anywhere in life as a woman. fuck males
>>82088777
women are doxxed, drugged up and die early deaths far more when they're a sex worker because of 1. perhaps a personality predisposition before they went into it and 2. because the stress of the work
There is a difference between your arms and back, which NOBODY discriminates against you for in your daily life, versus being a sex worker and then going back to your regular life and having people continuously say that your only value is sex and your vagina anyway. your arms and back don't come with presumptions about you as an entity like a vagina does for a woman

>>82088833
for what reason? just to have sex with an easy grab? the point i am making is that sex work is bad in part because it's reinforcing males perceiving women through the lens of sex and that as their utility, and that is already one of the main reasons why males want relationships with women. if you got that OF girl and she refused to have sex with you ever, would you still want a relationship? would you still want to be her friend? and not only that, but the janitor guy has FAR MORE potential in life for what he can do in terms of jobs and public respect, changing the world

>>82088522 (OP)
what are you yapping about? there's this lame ass "male loneliness epidemic" that men complain about in the same subcultures that you have an obsession with porn stars. most of the virgin cucks who feel "lonely" openly admit that they know porn stars names and treat them like celebrities, while doing absolutely nothing to build relationships. it's not just a vice, it's part of a sedentary lifestyle that manipulates young men into consooooming and observing and simulating rather than participating. and no amount of "positive reinforcement" helps with this shit, we have a similar problem with gambling, high interest loans, and fentanyl at a smaller scale and no country in the history of planet earth has ever figured out a solution to these problems other than restricting access to them.

>>82088873
>women are doxxed, drugged up and die early deaths far more when they're a sex worker
Blue collar workers are the top addicts and deaths of alcoholism and opiates because they are in constant physical pain from destroying their bodies and have barely anything to show for it.
>There is a difference between your arms and back, which NOBODY discriminates against you for in your daily life, versus being a sex worker and then going back to your regular life and having people continuously say that your only value is sex and your vagina anyway
Wageslaves are discriminated against all the time, you're thought of as poor trash beneath contempt by most people. Do you think working in an Amazon warehouse affords you respect in life?

>>82088926
>most of the virgin cucks who feel "lonely" openly admit that they know porn stars names and treat them like celebrities, while doing absolutely nothing to build relationships
you really just made all that shit up on the fly
who are you talking to, redditors or something?

>>82088915
>for what reason? just to have sex with an easy grab?
No, because men are simps and will fall in love with a pretty girl even if her sexual history includes being gangbanged in 4k. Most of these girls get husbands easily. The average wageslave is incel and can't even get a date.

>the janitor guy has FAR MORE potential in life for what he can do in terms of jobs and public respect, changing the world
If your resume has some low status job like janitor or warehouse worker it's going to be immediately thrown out by any professional company. You are basically locked in to a blue collar life forever. Meanwhile Angela White gives lectures at Harvard about feminism in cinema or whatever bullshit.

>>82088915
he didn't say sex he said date, and reasoning should be obvious, the average guy doesnt have an option, its either the OF whore or no one
> if you got that OF girl and she refused to have sex with you ever, would you still want a relationship?
nigger WHAT are you on, who, man or woman, wants to be in a relationship with someone who has no sex drive and doesnt want to change that, its not a relationship at that point its a friendship
>would you still want to be her friend?
depends if she can hold a conversation, but ill still look down on her for doing it
> and not only that, but the janitor guy has FAR MORE potential in life for what he can do in terms of jobs and public respect, changing the world
how old are you, genuine question because you have to be really young to not realize that women, and society as a whole, HATE low class jobs

>>82088941
incels mostly yeah. they will literally defend watching porn.

>>82089039
>incels mostly yeah. they will literally defend watching porn.
what is wrong with it, they're incels

>>82089039
Why do women care if incels watch porn? Don't they think they're creepy and want to be left alone? You should be happy they're jerking off alone instead of bothering you

>>82089054
what kind of lifestyle do you think creates a creep?

>>82089051
So it wasn't made up, retard? It's actually real that incels watch porn?

>>82089059
in the eyes of women? being born ugly

>>82088930
it's not a competition between blue collar workers and sex workers. i was pointing out that the life is a sex worker isn't rainbows just because they're having sex (predominantly benefits males). it sucks that ALL forms of "slavery" and manipulated/coerced labor is done for money. however, as i have said, sex work is unique in that this discrimination is gendered and, if women were to do blue collar work, they would face the exact same problems. the problems you outlined aren't just MALE (although, due to disparity in workforce currently i guess it could be) but the problems of any blue collar work. when males go into the field of sex work, it will never have the same consequences as it does for women, nor will they ever face the same pressure.
and sure, wageslaves aren't respected, but do you not think that a sex worker is viewed as even lesser?
>>82088980
not all sex workers (in fact the majority) will never have a large public platform, like most people in every area of life. just because one sex worker is getting paid to talk about it doesn't mean that there is suddenly benefits to all sex workers everywhere. and sure, women can get dates and marriages far more easily than males can. this isn't in respect to the work a woman does and sex work lowers her prospects, obviously not the same as a males. but besides the point, you're trying to say that being a sex worker DOESN'T suck even though it does. or that there is nothing women suffer more in life than males do.

>>82088522 (OP)
Porn is bad but the laws that use it as a scapegoat to implement digital IDs are evil

>>82089059
at what point is too far for you, should we ban alcohol because some become addicts? At what point do we let grown adults chose to do what they want.
>>82089070
im OP not the guy who responded to you

>>82089072
>be born ugly
>spend adolescence learning social skills instead of wasting away in front of a screen
>somehow, as if it was just luck or "magic", never turn into a creep
we're not talking about ugly people necessarily. the eyes of women didn't change. the porn habits of men definitely changed.

>>82089101
>should we ban alcohol because some become addicts?
we already do, you can't be drunk in public and you can't drink under 21 (or 16-18 in some countries)

>grown adults
can do whatever they want.

>>82089075
>it's not a competition between blue collar workers and sex workers
It is, because you want special protections for sex workers but not other workers. You think the state should take special care to protect women and you don't care that men have way worse lives. Men kill themselves and die of overdoses at WAY higher rates than women and somehow you think women need even more special protection from the government to make sure their dating prospects don't get reduced 10% as a consequences of their own actions.

>>82089104
>its porns fault
do you seriously believe that, that the rise of incels is because of porn
>>82089115
>we already do, you can't be drunk in public and you can't drink under 21
so whats ur cut off 18? how would you go about reenforcing that, look how the porn ban is working in states were its been instituted people just get around it with a vpn

>>82089075
>wageslaves aren't respected, but do you not think that a sex worker is viewed as even lesser?
Stripper, OF girl, pornstar are all way higher status jobs than a McDonalds cashier or Amazon warehouse slave. The only job that's seen as lower would be a literal street hooker.

>>82089124
>I don't immediately talk about blue collar workers in a thread about sex workers so this means I think blue collar workers shouldn't have protections either
males make everything about themfuckingselves oh my god

>>82088926
Unless women start wanting gross looking bald dudes that don't make any money, I'm pretty much just stuck with porn. Just leave me alone. Not like you actually give a shit about anyone anyway.

>>82089137
>do you seriously believe that, that the rise of incels is because of porn
do you seriously believe that men have gotten THAT MUCH uglier genetically? it's not just porn, i already mentioned a few other factors. porn is one of the biggest because it removes the entire motivation that men have to build relationships with women. if for example you mostly hang out with men and then masturbate alone, you have literally only yourself to blame for being single.

>>82089141
higher in terms of what? potential income? try telling your family and peers you do sex work and see how they react lmfao

>>82089172
>unless 2+ billion couples who are currently together exist, im stuck with degeneracy.
My whole entire point is that you don't give a shit about relationships, exactly. I'd be fine with people leaving you alone to goon all day.

>>82089185
>do you seriously believe that men have gotten THAT MUCH uglier genetically?
no but women, due to online dating, have gotten WAY pickier, to the point that the average guy is fucked on dating apps( the way most couples meet now)
>it's not just porn, i already mentioned a few other factors. porn is one of the biggest because it removes the entire motivation that men have to build relationships with women. if for example you mostly hang out with men and then masturbate alone, you have literally only yourself to blame for being single.
oc it always comes back to the male hate, yeah man im sure that a random incel who just going by what we know, has either some kind of autism, was sexual/emotional/ physically abused and was bullied is gonna do great in a social situation, and if he does struggle its because of porn.

>>82089205
>2+ billion couples who are currently together exist, im stuck with degeneracy.
I don't really see young couples where the man is ugly like that. Only older couples and older generations had much different standards and you could get by as a man just by providing resources alone. And I would have loved to been in a relationship when I was younger. But there were no women interested in me.
>I'd be fine with people leaving you alone to goon all day.
Good then just leave us alone..

>>82089263
>online dating
pornbrain moment
>WAY pickier
you don't need the internet to be pickier, in fact it would be harder on dating apps to pick a specific type. do you think they have a lower body count than men do? by how much?
>most couples
most couples meet online through social media and existing networks/group chats. less than 2% of heterosexuals find dates with online dating apps.

>95% of young men suddenly have autism and were physically abused and bullied
You're the only one who hates males in this thread. I said men who fall for this sedentary lifestyle feel like they don't have control and are just passive observers as a form of learned helplessness. You double down and say they are actually just too braindamaged to ever make a positive change in their lives.

>>82089310
How many women did you show a genuine interest for over an extended period of time? As in, how much of your time was spent developing a relationship?

>>82089343
Maybe the porn you whine about is a symptom of CHADSEXUALITY

>>82089388
sybau.

compare the money made in the chadsexual industry and the money made in the porn industry and then come back to me.

Porn is used by most men not as a choice, but to fill a void, most guys dont get easy access to sex, females see porn in their worldview where sex is easy to get. They think you are a perverted because you use porn instead of nothing. If woman wanted to fix porn issue, they would open their legs for these guys. Only then we would find the true porn addicts.

>>82089397
There's no industry, women just only want to fuck CHAD

>>82089399
>fentanyl and crack cocaine is used by most men not as a choice, but to fill a void, most guys don't get easy access to feeling good....

to be fair, most women don't choose their sexual partners by choice, but actually to fill a void. they don't get easy access to relationships or sex either, they just take what they can get.

>>82089403
>CHAD's BBC is in high demand
>but somehow, there's no industry for Chad BBC
peak

>>82089416
>most women don't choose their sexual partners by choice, but actually to fill a void.
Dont matter, still get sex, this is about sex, and porn, porn is sex, not asmr girlfriend, you make me think, but you somehow dummer

>>82089424
There are male strippers and then also the fuck apps where if you're a normal man it's picrel but the women only want CHAD and the apps are now adding height filters for whores

>>82089343
ok say i concede entire and agree that everything you say is correct, the government puts through a law tomorrow stating that all porn is banned, does that some how make it so all incels are magical all well adjusted members of society. what ur doing is focusing on porn instead of the truth which is the average young person gets nearly all of there socialisation through social media and rarely talks to people of the opposite sex outside of school.

>>82089416
>women don't get easy access to sex

>>82089445
Fuck apps:
80,000,000 MAU

Pornhub:
10,000,000,000 MAU

Gee i fucking wonder which one has a bigger influence gee

>>82089416
jesus christ you people will give women every excuse in the book just to spite men
>they don't get easy access to relationships or sex either
i can agree with you on the relationship part, but women dont get easy access to sex, get real

>>82089446
it would make a lot of kids go outside and touch grass. i don't know if you were ever a kid but i saw video games and porn devastate many families. if they only played the gaymes, at least in my experience they still got out enough because they were so horny.

in my opinion the incel rate would go back from 99% down to like 3%

>>82089497
Women have comparatively easy access to relationships as well, it's just difficult to find a high quality relationship

>>82088522 (OP)
People who are usually morally uptight about porn or sex are usually the biggest Chads and hypocrites. I had a friend in college who switched 10 different girls who would constantly tell me that sex isnt important and it isnt worth it and I should just fuck hookers instead , and that I was morally degenerate for watching porn even though he owned literal fleshlights

A lot of people are hypocrites who like to keep others down, anon

>>82089510
your whole argument is defeated by the simple fact that normies and chads also watch porn and play videogames, not just incels

>>82089497
women who goon and isolate themselves end up the same as you. cat ladies have existed for longer than incels. your logic is absurd and you even acknowledge it, but somehow it doesn't break through your cognitive dissonance.

>>82089485
Normal men give up on the fuck apps once they realize it's CHAD only

>>82089531
1. normies are incels
2. chads are much worse off if they get brainwashed by porn. whether or not you idolize the playboy lifestyle yourself, chads who treat women like shit don't seem to enjoy how things turn out.
3. exceptions proving the rule don't defeat the rule, buckeroo. would you spend more or less time watching porn if you had a loving relationship?

>>82089560
>CHAD is putting his BBC in other CHADs because there are no women on CHAD fuck apps

>>82089510
no fucking way most of what causes a young boy to become an incel is a terrible home and school life combined with poor socialisation, its not access to fucking porn, whats keeping kids inside isnt porn its youtube and games, its the fact that in order to play with friend they have to do it online because everyone else is, also this is what i mean by male hate everything is put on the shoulders of 15 y/o boys to be these ultra outgoing chads who never have insecurities and yet whats expected of women sit still and look pretty for a gold star

>>82088522 (OP)
>porn is lel bad cuz it fucks up your view of women and gives u ED

Most women are absolute degenerates outside of porn

>>82089539
sure lets compare female gooners to male gooners im sure the rates are comparably, i mean its not like men have a hormone in their body which gives them a much higher sex drive than women
>>82089522
yeah i know

I wish i could wish porn while being sucked off by a real woman.

>>82089567
>2. chads are much worse off if they get brainwashed by porn. whether or not you idolize the playboy lifestyle yourself, chads who treat women like shit don't seem to enjoy how things turn out.
my foreman used to treat women like shit and would usually fuck around with girls and then give them money for an abortion and then cut them off entirely. He tells those stories because he sees it as funny.

the only reason why life isn't working out for him now is because the one junkie he knocked up refused to get an abortion and now he has a daughter to raise, but otherwise he would've been perfectly fine doing nothing but using people and making money. Somehow I think yuor wrong,,,

>>82089594
>terrible home and school life combined with poor socialisation
this has nothing to do with the average (50th percentile) young man finding himself sexless by age 18. many if not most of these kids are suburbanoid spoiled assholes with easy public school lives, a general sense of fitting into their community (because they are literally average), and virtually unlimited social freedoms.

its porn. i don't know how else to fucking say it. these kids talk about porn more than they talk about relationships or love or anything adjacent to socialization. yeah the video game thing is crazy too but that shit doesn't hijack the sexual/hormonal framing that young men develop. has nothing to do with being ultra outgoing, you just have to spend A FUCKING LONG TIME learning how to connect with and relate to women, or else it becomes too late.

>>82089567
>chads are much worse off if they get brainwashed by porn. whether or not you idolize the playboy lifestyle yourself, chads who treat women like shit don't seem to enjoy how things turn out.
That existed waaaay before porn did. Also I thought your whole argument was that porn caused men to isolate and not seek irl women, now you're saying it makes them too promiscuous? At this point you're just blaming porn for all social ills

>>82089635
>you're actually right but one guy i knew almost made it
I never enjoyed the idea of casual sex so idk bro. Hope it works out for you!

>>82089632
I want one of those mind broken by porn foids to serve me while I listen to audio porn desu

>>82089673
I want to use their mouth as a cumdumpster then switch to pussy offloading after main load gone, It is the only way for both be happy :)

>>82089662
>now you're saying it makes them too promiscuous?
no, the concept of chad is that he's already promiscuous. incels think chad has a harem, they aren't thinking about some handsome country boy who gets married to one girl at 18.

>porn caused men to isolate and not seek irl women
correct! plenty of incels are still good looking and could have become chads. my point about brainwashing is that even if this guy has it so easy that isolation doesn't keep him single, his relationships are still trash in general. not all social ills, just sexual development (we have like 20 morbillion years of history on sexual deviancy and how things can get out of hand), and frankly i already said it's a myriad of things and porn is just a very obvious factor

>>82089652
>many if not most of these kids are suburbanoid spoiled assholes with easy public school lives
ok just say you hate men and get it over with it, i understand that your female mind cant comprehend that men can think about more that just sex. let me spell it out for you, the problem is not porn its the internet, have you seen the average young womans stands for a casual relationship, not 15 y/o is gonna be able to achieve that, when you have access to every fucking single person in a 50 mile radius why would you settle for some average fag in your english class,

>>82089671
He didn't 'almost make it' he's fine with how shit is now and he got to have an incredibly rich life for YEARS because he treated women like pure objects

I don't idolize it at all and I frankly hope my foreman gets cancer so that he can die painfully and slowly and make everyone related to him suffer I'm just saying that people who are shitty and do not care tend to get relationships INSANELY easy and reap all the benefits so your point seems really fucking moot.

>>82089741
because you are delusional and never took a match class. the advantage women have on dating apps only exists as long as it's rare for women to be on dating apps relative to the number of men.

you can hate men if you want to, that's your problem. i have the same argument for women who are childless in their 30s or women who picked career before taking steps to start a family. the women who complain about "no good men" are retarded imbeciles who waited too long and were too distracted, mostly by social media trends.

but in a conversation about porn and "male loneliness" ITS FUCKING OBVIOUS YOU DIKE

>>82088522 (OP)
>and yet you faggots still wear tshirts bathed in the blood of Bangladeshi children
i think when a bangladeshi child gets mangled in the machinery they discard the blood-soaked clothing with bits of bone still in it

>>82089736
>plenty of incels are still good looking and could have become chads
>my point about brainwashing is that even if this guy has it so easy that isolation doesn't keep him single
So does isolation keep good looking men incel or not? You're contradicting yourself with every sentence. Your worldview doesn't make any sense.

>>82089764
what are you yapping about now? everyone that I could possibly respect in my lifetime has or had a long marriage/committed relationship and had no trouble treating his wife/gf with love. even if you're saying that being a dickhead makes things easier (it objectively doesn't), i value not being a dickhead more than something being "easier"

>>82089774
oh yeah great argument lets compare a mid thirties adult with a child in terms of accountability, also retard learn how to read dumb esl, im saying you hate men

>>82089736
U girl, you can fix one man, you no fix, you part of issue, me stroke dick to porn now.

>>82089799
>all good looking men have the same neighborhood and same opportunities in life
oh sweet summer child. most of the guys you call "chad" are ugly balding drug dealers. you're just trying too hard for a gotcha moment.

>>82089814
i've got no horse in this race I just thought your one point about "le playboy life bad" is retarded cuz I've seen an equal amount of shitty and abusive people use others and get away with it scot free as I have genuinely respectful people who try their best get burned lol

>>82089819
mid thirties adult with no kids is a direct result of a teenage girl who spent all day on instagram instead of developing meaningful relationships.

also whether or not you hate men, you're still a dike.

>>82089840
>no horse
>"bad unlikeable people are liked by everyone and likeable respectable people are disliked!"
based orwell. what's your point though?

>>82089844
>mid thirties adult with no kids is a direct result of a teenage girl who spent all day on instagram instead of developing meaningful relationships.
yes and shes had over 15 years to chance that and didnt comparing that to some kid is retarded, also do you have brain damage im a man

>>82089865
Don't really have one I just wanted to express I think ur opinion was fake and gay and chimed in because ur wrong

>>82089893
>im a man
you will never be a man. who said anything about comparing?

>>82089905
Bet. Hey do you think women are attracted to that dark triad stuff? Need to check something.

>>82089906
i was born with a cock good enough?
>who said anything about comparing?
you're comparing a 15y/o incel to a mid thirties single women

>>82089949
15y/o cannot be an incel. its usually too late by the time you are around 25-30. at 15 you can just go outside and find a girlfriend easily.

>>82089918
I think big boobs is hot

>>82089918
>are women attracted to confident, manipulative men
yeah maybe

>>82089968
bigboobmaxxing is peak. women are smart when they get breast implants.

>>82089966
Im 23, its so over unga brothers, back to jerking off.

>>82089918
Not necessarily but I think in general those people usually have way lower inhibitions and don't give much of a fuck about anything other than doing whatever they want, and i think women usually see that aspect as attractive since it's generally more fun to be around, at least temporarily.
As for the violent part, I think aggressive people also generally get seen as strong and that's attractive to women for the same reason strong, aggressive men are the subject of so much romance stuff targeted at women, but it's really misplaced since irl overly aggressive people rarely have that off switch for people close to them

tl;dr yea, but mostly as a byproduct of that behavior depending on who does it, not because of the behavior itself

>>82089979
nah like known psychopaths.

>>82089966
>15y/o cannot be an incel.
never heard this one before
>at 15 you can just go outside and find a girlfriend easily.
are you a women, genuinely your posts come off as someone so disconnected from the average male adolescence

>>82090004
in other words, you're wrong but some people (through persistence and self-determination) can still succeed in life in spite of their flaws. that's actually interesting isn't it?

>>82090012
the people well known for being extremely likeable ? yeah. their not gonna die old together but they'll gonna fuck

>>82090033
Idk man like I said before I don't see manipulation and casual sex as a 'success' in life, but if you think that it's a good thing that those people are rewarded more power to you

>>82089652
>it's the porn, even though CHAD uses porn too and has no issues. it's definitely not women only being interested in unusually attractive men

>>82090022
>never heard this one before
yeah and i'm sure you'll say this same thing tomorrow
>genuinely
being disingenuous and then saying "genuinely" is goofy. i'm a guy. inceldom is just learned helplessness about what you're capable of. you can't learn enough by age 15 to get there unless you're just covering for some extreme porn addiction (to stay on topic), especially since you're still growing and changing.

>>82090081
>its the apps, even though average men use apps too and have issues

>>82090051
known for being extremely weird and gay

>>82090081
I tried the apps, i have tinder bumble and cupid and no matches ever, i tried it cause i thought people were joking how bad it is. Fuck man ill never get laid forget relationships...

>>82090093
>yeah and i'm sure you'll say this same thing tomorrow
wtf does that even mean.
>being disingenuous and then saying "genuinely" is goofy
hows that disingenuous im fairly confident that you either have little to no empathy or have no idea what your talking about

>>82090146
>little to no empathy
Lets hear some empathy from you. Do women care much about looks or do they mostly make a decision to date based on personality? Let's hear it boss!

>>82090126
you're conflating different things, dark triads and psychos act and think different.
>>82090163
>Do women care much about looks or do they mostly make a decision to date based on personality?
in real life? personality. online? looks. see that what we adults call nuance you dumb nigger

>>82090206
>in real life? personality.
KEK

>>82090206
>dark triad and psychos act and think different
actual peak retardation.

>>82090206
>nuance
>racist word makes me look cool XD
We have a real empath in the chat. He totally understands why people are choosing to be single rather than build relationships.

>>82089172
This. They want you to do the humiliation ritual to make themselves better but they'll never admit it. You see it all the time.
"I'm better than that guy"

Im horny as fuck and no foid will come to empty this sack before i use GASP porn!!

>>82090217
your delusional. have you ever met a womanizer? my dad is a 5'1 manlet and was constantly getting pussy and cheating on my mom because of his charisma and how he carried himself
>>82090222
retard psychopathy is a part of dark triad
>>82090245
yeah dont actual go into what i said, avoid it because you know that you where expecting me to agree with you on dating in real life

>>82090310
5'1 - 5'9 men have never reproduced. try again.

>>82090310
So you agree that women today, for the most part, are judging personality when they are deciding whether or not to date? I don't care if you weasel your way into some "online" vs "reality" bullshit, I'm talking about your understanding of how women feel.

>>82090310
This reeks of woman claws, but i have a decent personality and able to befriend people easily, so much so that i manage to get along with older woman for connections for jobs from my wagie job. Yet chicks my age or younger act like such entitled bitches who never would speak to me, its only at most 1/5 chicks willing to not act like this. Guys never have this issue. Yes i smoke and drink.

>>82090353
does your sense of humor match what younger girls are into or only the older women?

i jerk off because women aren't worth the trouble of being more than friends with for 5-20 minutes worth of sex.
feels like a waste of time

>>82090345
Its not weasely to bring up the fact the internet has completely changed how we as a species interact
>>82090353
I dont know what to tell you, i saw that shit first hand, he wasnt a good guy just very charming

>>82090411
>muh species
rat. you would argue that internet has an influence but porn does not? are you mentally retarded?

>>82090402
Im a 23 year old zoomer, My jokes are shitty but i talk alot and slime, and actually listen to people so for most its more than enough to have a friendly ear and a person to talk with like you have known for a while, I do use hand movements when i talk, i hope it manages to catch attention better so i use it. I do not know why younger girls are the way they are. I assume phones since its what they stick their faces to all the time. At least im able to make good friends in my work and even off this site. And do not try to talk to girls from here. Some guys here are savable, girls are not.
>>82090411
You never know behind the screen, he could be paying escorts, i know old fucks are the most paying fucks for porn and onlyfans.

>>82090345
Women might like a guy's personality but they will immediately look up his social media and ghost him if it isn't normie enough

>>82090461
SMILE NOT SLIME FUCK MY LIFE, i should go the fuck to sleep, this shit so retarded and im getting more and more tired each day.

>>82088522 (OP)

>WHO CARES im gonna be a virgin 4life

Same. The dating market is incredibly fucked up, and probably won't be much better within 20-30 years, maybe even worse.

Are AI gfs the next best thing?

>>82090490
It really is awful. Top 10% of men get all the girls and everyone else gets literally nothing. You can have a literal gf or even be married and she will cheat on you the moment she finds a Chad thats more attractive.

>>82089039
well i'm lonely for different reasons that are completely unrelated to porn. i don't really know how you looked at male loneliness everywhere, and decided "no yeah that's all just cause of porn and consooming."

>>82090549
same desu, im just an otherbeing at least i have friends similar to me i can play nerdshit with

>>82090440
Porn is part of the internet retard
>>82090461
>You never know behind the screen, he could be paying escorts
My dad? I saw him flirt with women

>>82090577
>I saw him flirt with women
That does not confirm if he managed to get laid with them or not due to flirting. I dont really know what you want to hear. You just assume because one thing happened another did, while you can make these dots, truth is he is probably flirting with older woman, which is not a hard thing, id literally find it easier to get laid with married woman than chicks my age. You dont even understand how fucked up it is.

>>82090609
I dont know what you want me to say, youre right i never saw him fuck another woman so i guess he never did. if i throw a nail bomb into a crowded room and dont look inside i can still assume that it kill people with a good chance of being correct

>>82090665
But you never truly know, which is the point of this. For all you know people died but maybe the bomb teleported out. You need to look in. If i lived like you i could safely assume every woman is a whore because they might have taken a bunch of cocks and most of the time id be right. You should really adopt a better mindset instead of tiptoeing around to be right. You have a chance to say you are were wrong and fix this. Admitting you are wrong is more mature than being whatever this is.
For me? Ill just keep larping in my mind im a cool ass fucking edgy guy. Maybe if i fake it enough itll come true. Like most shit i fake til i make it.

>>82090710
I think we can agree to disagree

>>82088915
>Janitors
>Potential
Son, I have been a janny so long that I am considered overqualified and have to seek other shit stained entry level jobs that aren't in my field while I leave 20+ years of actual knowledge off my CV
>Congrats anon your resume looks like shit where were you from 2005 until now?
>Edits resume furiously with lies to appear as a well rounded employee with multiple skills
>Well we could hire you to pick up trash but you'd start at the highest wage bracket and still not be at McDonald's starting wages

Also:
>Thinking women don't have galleries full of e-simps and meat reality cucks ready to swoop in from the friend zone
Best laugh of the day, keep writing those fan fics my guy

>>82088522 (OP)
>Assuming women are logical
>And won't negatively analyze a situation
>Until they've destroyed it
Nah

>>82090856
people like that haven't been in blue collar fields like that and think its all sunshine and rainbows
>janitor gang btw