Anyone eIse waiting for a girl to approach you first?

>>82212612 (OP)
14 years since I last got laid and it hasn't happened even once yet.

>>82212612 (OP)
I've had women give me hints, but its never from someone I'm interested in.

>>82212612 (OP)
do men legitimately like when you approach them?

I don't know why or how, but I had exactly one gf many years ago and she did 90% of the work. She clearly wanted me and arranged everything. Even broke up with her boyfriend. Then drove to my house.
Since then, however, no girl has even kissed me. Also when I take the initiative it never works out. I've never been able to "get" girl, only this one time when the universe randomly decided to send her directly into my bedroom.

>>82212653
no, they love having to get rejected 10 gorrillion times

>>82212655
same, i fucked up the only chance i ever had. Its all fucking over

>>82212612 (OP)
I've had it happen a few times in my life
When I was 10 the neighbor girl (9) had a crush on me and her older sister hooked us up (kinda weird in hindsight?) and then later on she cucked me with an older guy
When I was 15, I had a girl write me a full page letter asking me out in high school and then she cheated on me with her cousin. I deemed her the "Wonder whore" and all my friends would call her out in the hallway kek
The only good gf I ever had, I asked her out first
So in my experience, if a girl comes to you first, she's trouble.

>>82212653
why the fuck wouldn't we? we're literally offing ourselves in droves from loneliness and isolation and women be asking dumbass questions like this still...

>>82212612 (OP)
Absolutely. I have no chance of hooking-up otherwise. Sadly, this will never happen, and I turn 40 next year.
No foids, staring at me and never speaking to me (while you have company anyway) is not a fucking hint.
I really do wish that foids could be direct with me about wanting to fuck me. Almost all matches say fucking nothing, or won't answer.
Unless she is fucking blatant, and is all over me, I will just assume she isn't interested and pay her no mind. Like all the others.

>>82212612 (OP)
all my life lol

>35 khhv

>>82212717
Yeah but rejection sucks, not risking that. If 5 men are interested in me, one more isn't anything but more headache

>>82212781
>Yeah but rejection sucks, not risking that
We understand each other.

>>82212612 (OP)
>waiting for a girl to approach you first?
This is the only way I've ever obtained a relationship. You still have to take the initiative and ask her out, but women usually make it REALLY obvious when they like you. If women aren't sending signals it's because you're unattractive or you're lacking in the ability to detect her desire.

I've gotten some good signals but only a few direct approaches. The worst one was a girl I thought was out my league a bit who straight up came to me and told me I was good looking. All I could say was "Thanks". I think about that one the most even though it was 10 years ago.

I've been approached in high school, and overheard girls talking about me, but I ignored it. I'm pushing 40 now, but even back then I was resigned to an isolated life.

>>82212801
Thats not even slightly true. Satan controls all the women using telepathy. He hooks up his clones to breed them, because he essentially clones himself and lives for a very long time. Every woman on the entire planet knows who we are. Satan does not feel arousal obviously, thats all just fake stuff he made. He looked at what the animal body was, but did not give us animal minds. So he tries to make some type of movie almost using his clones. Comes out super retarded looking though. He uses you to enforce his illusion, most of the illusion is managed using books and tv shows and websites. Real life women, definitely they already know your exact gps coordinates at all times.

>>82212612 (OP)
Kind of. I'm not specifically waiting for a woman but I'm not doing anything either. I'm just living my life and if a woman decides she wants me then great, otherwise I don't care.

>>82212919
How big is your dick? Thats cool that you dont need to have sex with a girls pussy. You just doing the Mgtow thing?

>>82212682
>So in my experience, if a girl comes to you first, she's trouble.
Absolutely correct. You know why? Only a woman who's either insane or masculine would ask a man out first. A one with sadistic tendencies, or a one who wants to control a man. Usually with huge, disrupted egos. The worst demonic women.

If a girl asks you out first, she's really bad quality woman. You never want that around.

Good girls (shy, kind, feminine, what you want a girl to be) will never ask you out. She might have a huge crush on you but will NEVER make the first move, period.

Women are far more prone to anxiety and cowardly behaviour in general. There's countless scientific studies about you. It takes one big freak to overcome it to the level they ask you out. Those women will never care about you; at most use you.


>>82212655
>>82212664
How did you "fuck up your chances"?
Usually it's not your fault whatsoever, and anything she told you as the reason for breaking up is bullshit.

>>82212612 (OP)
Yeah I've been approached by four different women so it clearly works and it helps to filter for women who are into me. Obviously it means I don't date as much but I see it as quality over quantity.

>>82213049
Please keep turning down masculine and assertive woman so there's more for me

>>82212795
Yeah, also a boy asked me out as a joke in school, in front of everyone. I cant let go of my hate.

>>82212612 (OP)
it actually happens because i'm cute and dress cute/alt. like real DIY alt, not mall goth shit

>>82212612 (OP)
i am old and ugly, when i was young and slightly less ugly i was more delusional and thought it might happen but it didn't.

I read on female dating strategy once that the real reason why they refuse to approach men first is so they can have the power in the relationship. The person who approaches first creates a dynamic where they feel they must impress the person they approached, and this bleeds over into the remainder of the relationship.

I experienced this once as a guy when a girl approached me first, I felt like I had all the power and could lead her like a dog.

They are sending you signs through facial expressions and body language.
They are not directly approaching you but letting you know non verbally that it is ok to approach them.
They might still reject but it's not a big deal.
It's ok to appear dumb near women.

>>82212653
Tech has caused a lot of men to be socially underdeveloped and severely anxious. Combine this with #metoo, constant demoralisation psyops like those you see on 4chan, and algos injecting politics into dating, it's no wonder men won't even approach women.
In this age it's pretty much on women to initiate conversations that signal attraction.

>>82212653
Yes. Men receive 0-1 compliments every 5-10 years, so a girl asking US out is the biggest compliment of all.

>>82214050
>In this age it's pretty much on women to initiate conversations that signal attraction.

We approach men all the time. I went foe a coffee and the most handsome I ever saw was there, it was overwhelming.

He was married but I would have done anything he wanted. So yeah that's always been the case, if a guy is attractive i'll let him know

>>82212612 (OP)
i'm not so much as waiting as i am hoping
i know it's likely not to happen like ever, but if it did... well, i'd be quite happy

>>82212612 (OP)
I'm 30 and this has never once happened to me.

>>82214192
You should shoot up a library

>>82212612 (OP)
Yeah, and then I would reject her by pretending to busy. I will not actually be busy. I will go home and play video games. It has so far happened two times over the course of my entire life.

>>82214290
Youre an omega male. Consider shooting up a busy library to show them what happens.

>>82214304
This post glows bright as the sun

>>82212612 (OP)
it happened to me during covid quite a lot, i was basically what they called a "mask fish" at the time, guys that look good with a mask on but ugly with it off. the only girls that were approaching me back then were teenagers though, like one time i went to watch a movie and there weren't many people at the theater there were like 10 people in total, next to me were two teenage girls and when the movie ended they started asking me what i thought about the movie, the girl obviously wanted to bang, but only because she didn't know i was ugly and an adult man.

>>82214332
Nice cope loser. Youll be jacking off your own little ballsack for another 50 years.

>>82214355
You're the one who started talking about shooting up libraries, troon. Take your meds.

>>82212612 (OP)
Ive had multiple women approach me but its always normies. I want a girl with my interests and likes and those are never interested in me. I dont know what about me is such a normie magnet. I dont know how to get the interest of non normie women. Specially since I dont even try to attract normies. Ive had a couple of straight up stacies try too.

>>82214388
Beggars can be choosers

>>82214376
Yeah you seem like a ticking time bomb. I can tell youre going red faced angry and steam is coming out of your nose and mouth. Youll be teaching the normies the meaning of hell after what they did to you.

>>82212612 (OP)
No and I don't want them to because I don't like rejecting women.

>>82212612 (OP)
Having your pants wedged right up between your cheeks like this must be uncomfortable. I don't even know how it would be possible for tight pants like that to do that on accident, so this must have been done on purpose for the sake of the picture.

>>82214403
>I can tell youre going red faced angry and steam is coming out of your nose and mouth.
Mhm. Sure troon. Whatever makes you cope.

>>82212653
as long as you arent black (AND EVEN THEN) you could ask out 10 guys and 9 will immediately say yes with a shy smile, even the hot ones

>>82214461
I dont know any single guys. Altho if youre hot, their wives are old. You could easily steal their guy. Old women have smelly vaginas and buttholes.

>>82214477
not only can women easily get older men to cheat, most of them will pay for their company and to keep quiet.

>>82214495
I disagree. Maybe if shes like way hotter. I dont think most people would be interested in downgrading their bitch and putting access to their stable reliable butt pillow at night just for one or two cums.

>>82212653
no, what every man wants is to get rejected 500 times for being sub-chad before some obese whale deigns to give him a chance

>>82214641
>rejected 500 times

Ok retard, that doesn't happen

Reading this thread, i feel lonely knowing that at no point in my 24 years of existence has a female humanoid shown any interest in me, in fact the only external references to my sexuality is that is that the concept of me ever having a girlfriend is hilarious.
Some people act like being an incel is a "choice" atleast in my case its just that one day I decided to listen to what people said about me.

>>82215844
>24 years

You're a child. Come back when you are 45

>>82216088
24 is a solid age to feel this. Hes had about 10 years of being a sexually mature male and got no female attention. I'm a 33 yo virgin and even I had some attention by 24. In fact, most of it was around that age.

>>82216125
The years get harder, not easier.

If he can't cope now, when his knees still work, how will he cope when his body is failing and there's 0 hope for the future?

>>82212612 (OP)
I am.
I am way too asocial and inexperienced to approach a girl. Most girls don't even want to be approached nowadays and will call it harassment if you do so.

>>82212653
Yes, because if men have to be the ones asking its high risk and ruins the relationship between them if she rejects him because she would think he is a coomer only being with her to get a relationship,

But if a woman asks then he would know she likes him for sure and the accepts if he is also into her, even if she is unattractive he would reject her but still be grateful that she is attracted to him and would take it as a compliment of sorts.

The only time a girl approached me first was the fat girl in my fifth grade class. It was embarrassing on many levels.

>>82212612 (OP)
Yes. Two reason
> I am have confidence issues
> Ideally I want a gf that's assertive, maybe even somewhat domineering, so if she approaches first it's a good indicator of those qualities.