Thread 82245019

you can hate women here all you want but the one thing you won't find here is any criticism how guys treat each other. at best they'll see you not doing well and look at you in apathy being happy that this didn't happened to them and that there's less competition now. at worse they are the ones making sure that you're miserable pushing you down from their better position or dragging you down with them making sure no one has it better than them. camaraderie is dead or maybe was never even a thing in the first place

>>82245019 (OP)
Misanthropy > misogyny > (power gap) > misandry

>>82245019 (OP)
As a guy, I hate men more than women. Women are annoying at best. Most men are evil. I had mostly female friends in college and they were easy to get along with. They never made any jokes about me being a 5'6 manlet and they were actually sensitive to my feelings.

I dunno man, I try to talk to people who seem down when I can. Ignoring someone that ain't doing well is a dick move.

>>82245063
>As a guy, I hate men more than women
thats what im saying! men really are fucking dogshit trash moral turds!
now, unlike you i have no friends that are girls (and never had because im not a fucking normie), but thats besides the point

>>82245019 (OP)
those in a relationship need to step aside

those who dont are dicks and they know it

they use their relationship as verified status as a pussy magnet and retarded women see that as a sign of him being worthy of pussy

this is, that dude's wife that he cheats on is hella ugly

thats what most girls cant see past

>>82245126
thing is*

The mammal female body produced and shaped the mammal male to be a unit of territorial violence, a drone to disperse and secure territory after it's genetic material is secured.
It's life and lived experience are of no consequence in either the male or the female brain.

Male disposability has nothing to do with reproduction, it's a set of feelings, a moderately complex prepared behavior, an instinct.

>>82245185
It's easier to blame nature for it and be completely apathetic about the whole situation than actively doing something against it

>>82245270
It's easier to expect something to be done than to accept that we have less free will and choice in the matter than we would like to believe.

What would you like to do about it anyway? How do you override an instinct that developed over hundreds of thousands of years if not more? This is a deeply ingrained biological issue that's not even exclusive to humans and no amount of goody two-shoes sunday church shit is going to provide a solution to it.

Pretending that it's not there will not only not provide solutions, but will also curb stomp any attempt at exploring possible solutions or workarounds because the idea itself offends most people.
How would you even present something like this to the scientific community that banished people who pointed out that race correlates with IQ? And that was a mild claim compared to what is being proposed here.

Nothing will be done.

>>82245063
Because men naturally dont tolerate weakness. Youre dead weight in the squad and the way you talk about yourself and how you hide behind women shows youre an emotional weak little bitch. Did that answer your question?

>>82245019 (OP)
Christianity tried it, got corrupted and now we're here

>>82245394
>got corrupted
It just ran it's course. You can only pretend for so long.

>>82245377
You sound so corny as hell and trying wah too hard. Nice larping as a tough guy chad on the internet when I know for a fact you're a bitch in real life.

>>82245019 (OP)
>competition
This is why male friendships are a struggle. Most men blame it on women for "making" us compete for their attention, but it runs deeper than that. We're generations away from having this conversation, but men are also victims of the patriarchy because of this "peacocking" behavior. This isn't the victorian era anymore. Women can survive without us, and men need a new purpose in life.
>camaraderie is dead or maybe was never even a thing in the first place
It was a thing when women were still interested in monogamous relationships. Now, women realized that they can get more benefits being single and ride that hypergamy train into the sky. As a result men are forced to keep this competition going for longer than ever. People are getting married in their 30s instead of their 20s now.
>>82245063
>>82245116
Gender has nothing to do with someone being evil, but I also have more female friends than male friends because they are much easier to talk to because things I say won't be used as a weapon to mentally destroy me when a potential mate enters our vicinity.
>>82245404
I'm in favor of going back to pretending and I'm sure a lot more people are as 1 in 5 are now Muslim.

>>82245404
That corruption happened wayyy before that and you know it

>>82245415
>I'm in favor of going back to pretending
Do you expect a different result this time?

>>82245412
And now youre throwing a tantrum. Believe what you want about me. But you know what I said is true. Stop being defenseless and pathetic.

>>82245465
Nigga kill yourself. You sound way more pathetic trying to larp like an alpha retard.

>>82245437
No, but we clearly need skydaddy to stop us from going extinct.

>>82245475
based. im so tired of normie niggers coming here to larp like they're they're tough guys.

>>82245063
>As a guy, I hate men more than women. Women are annoying at best. Most men are evil. I had mostly female friends in college and they were easy to get along with. They never made any jokes about me being a 5'6 manlet and they were actually sensitive to my feelings.
you didn't have anything they wanted, they saw you as harmless

>>82245489
And I'm telling you that it won't stop you from going extinct. You need an actual solution, not delegating that burden to faith and hoping for the best.

>>82245475
Im not larping as anything. Im telling you why youve experienced what youve experienced. You keep screaming and shitting yourself. In the end youll kill yourself anyways. And everyone around you will sigh in relief. Dont change.

>>82245019 (OP)
As an autistic guy, I dislike women more than men. Guys have always been much kinder to me. Yes, there are bullies, but usually, they're well-meaning and easy to please.
>you won't find here is any criticism how guys treat each other.
Because guys aren't in control of the narrative, except when it's bootstraps. Don't get me wrong, "mysogyny" is stupid and abusive towards men, but it is abusive in a way that also comes off as praise while it puts you down.
>at best they'll see you not doing well and look at you in apathy being happy that this didn't happened to them and that there's less competition now.
It's better than the sheer resentment and disgust women have. I don't wanna be assumed a rapist when I don't make eye contact, make too much of it, or do some other ick. Guys don't see me as a threat immediately and actually treat me human.
>at worse they are the ones making sure that you're miserable pushing you down from their better position or dragging you down with them making sure no one has it better than them.
No, that's women. Guys mostly just fuck off. If you piss off a bpdemon, your rep is ruined. Doesn't matter what actually happened.
>camaraderie is dead or maybe was never even a thing in the first place
Lol. What? Why were you expecting comradery? Is that a woman thing? You type without capitalizing your sentences, so I have to assume you're trans.

Being around women feels like cushy landmines. Being around men feels like rocky scrambles.

Don't get me wrong, I love women when it works out. I'm not a misanthrope and have a lot of women in my life who are great to me after years of me learning their attack patterns by trial and error, mostly family. Lesbians are also great, but mostly online, where they don't feel threatened by my aura. It's just generally much easier to screw up with women, whereas most men can tank my autism and not have a fit, and we can get on with the fun activity or work without anxiety.

>>82245791
>Yes, there are bullies, but usually, they're well-meaning

>>82245838
Getting bullied by Chad was hot

>>82245370
Aye. Can't disagree with all this. After festering the idea that males are just disposable extensional "aggro" limbs of women - I wanted to seclude myself away from them, but I physically can't. The need is still there, and the only way to get their attention/respect is to showcase the aggression and potential of it. It's grim, I hate it, and my hate further proves the fucking theory.
I've given up on solutions, but one thing is clear (And quite freeing) - in company of women - I don't have to hide my aggression at least. They may say they don't like it, but they sure as fuck act like they respect it.

>>82246410
That looks very interesting, can you link me to the paper?

>>82246483
There's no paper. Likely fantasy. I've tried it with gf for years. She can't boss me around, so it's probably bunk. The liquid, however, does indeed enter the urethra. I can legit squeeze her juices out of my cock after 20 mins or so.

>>82245465
Pretty much. But this is a beta board, that guy got his feelings hurt by your assessment of him.

>>82245019 (OP)
The men who treat other men bad are the ones who don't hate foids.

>>82246410
In any event, it's another angle worth exploring.
This is why I don't compile my hypothesis by hand because there's always more shit to add to it and by the time I'm finished I'd have to re-write entire chunks because of new ideas. It's probably only semi-related to the whole framework of my idea, but still very interesting. Updated my journal.

>>82246608
>muh beta
Nigger, you are an incel on an incel board. Where the fuck do you think you are? Stop larping like a wisechad who only uses 4chan to educate the incels here. You don't have sex like the rest of us.

>>82246613
It's not much, but if you google some more (i didn't save blog posts), there is a study or two, but they only tested sniffing the acids, which boosted testosterone and made males like the women more.
Obviously fucking vaginal coupling wasn't tested in any serious manner. I will say after doing it purposefully for 2 years - there are a lot of coincidences when she and I have "same thoughts" occuring, even if we're doing different activities closeby. e.g.
>We should go to store
>Let's call your folks
>Movie?
>Seggs nao
>She reminds me of thing I haven't done, just 3 seconds after I remember it.
and many other basic shit.

>>82246641
honestly you sound like an actual virgin.

>>82246641
Haha brosef, ask yourself why that guy made you so upset. Why did his words sting? Because you know, not think, you KNOW they rang true - so your ego fired up the defence mechanism: denial. And yes, this makes you beta AF, if anything you are in good company on fucking r9000. You are beta, and deep in denial.

>>82246703
And so are you faggot if you're here.
>>82246723
I'm not even the same anon, faggot.
>You are beta, and deep in denial.
If you believe in tatemaxxing, you're either a shitskin mudslime or a nigger. Either way, your opinion doesn't matter to me.

>>82246676
I'm going to read up on this but added into this framework it looks something like this:
>dehumanized by an X-linked polygenic trait which was acquired through an alloimmunological mechanism
>seligman's preparedness theory suggests that old instincts always manifest as much more intense feelings than new, far more dangerous phenomena(i.e. people by instinct have an aversion to spiders, but they don't have the same instinct to be afraid of cars or heart disease which actually kills them)
>so far this suggests that androphobia is the baseline and could explain the entire mental process behind what we observe as male disposability
>on top of this you could potentially have another mechanism which enslaves the already dehumanized/androphobic male

Kinda makes sense, the oofer army is not only predisposed to be territorial and hostile against men, but also mind raped by the pheromones that they sniff out of their domineering wives' vaginas. Looking good, huh?

>>82246772
>if you're here then all the people you had sex with stop existing
That would be cool for some of them, but I would have to choose which ones I erase.

>>82245019 (OP)
There's no point in saying it. Every boy learns at the onset of puberty that all other men are his enemies. Often his father is no exception

>>82246873
Pathetic larp or get the fuck out of my Incel board, normal nigger.

>>82246899
You are probably an actual incel which is hilarious. Did you come from the subreddit?

>>82246772
The alpha/beta dichtomy goes back at least to 2010, way before some fag youtubers started using the term in recent years.. being upset that someone uses a term you don't like is another clear indicator of being a betamax. They are just words on a screen, if you were less beta and thus more comfortable with yourself they would not affect you at all.

>>82246851
>>on top of this you could potentially have another mechanism which enslaves the already dehumanized/androphobic male
Aye, it sounds crazy asf, but then again, we've had the covid era, and only what? 10-20% stood their ground? I'd imagine someone without internal dialogue would be affected by this magnitudes more than someone like me (an unvaxxed, internal mologue, flying-dancing-singing-apple-imagination-enjoyer). It certainly explains pussywhipping/lingus enjoyers at least.
If you look at pic and read the ml amounts noted, they were even higher, before that page was edited, so it's likely this whole thing is just some fetish. I'd like it to be true though. Love your androphobia theory and have the first notes saved from the thread they were from.
Keep posting! I respect it.

>>82246926
>Keep posting! I respect it.
Thanks man, I don't plan on stopping any time soon. I usually hop in to relevant threads and drop my theory to fish for ideas and conversation. I ran into a handful of people who found it interesting and when it gets some traction and I feel like it's fleshed out, I might try the theoretical blackpill threads again to discuss these unorthodox and unexplored ideas.
I mean pheromone mind rape would fit right in there. It could be an essay on it's own.

I just feel like the whole topic of mate preference, what the blackpill community is basically built around is concluded, there's nothing else to add to it. We have spent decades talking about looks, relationship dynamics, et cetera, it's just finished. I think it's time for people to explore and reduce things even further to get a better understanding about why things are the way they are.

>>82246909
>You are probably an actual incel which is hilarious.
Using incel as an insult in r9k and calling other anons Redditors. Are you lost?

>>82247079
Redditors coming to this board and calling others redditors is so funny to me.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUxJdxv-COM

>>82245019 (OP)
People care less about other people shitting on them for having a problem than having the actual problem solved.

>>82247037
>I just feel like the whole topic of mate preference, what the blackpill community is basically built around is concluded, there's nothing else to add to it. We have spent decades talking about looks, relationship dynamics, et cetera, it's just finished. I think it's time for people to explore and reduce things even further to get a better understanding about why things are the way they are.
Hit the nail on the head hard here. I'm sure you've found that the bottleneck is novel/hard to find ideas/explanations at some point down the rabbit hole. You and I would benefit greatly by having some sort of community. 4chin works great, and I've tried to make discords, or finding some, but novel/schizo ideas seekers are so few and far between, i dunno where to go from here. For example - the copulin thing, apart from a few shitposts - all the info I had to find myself, and it took me literal years. Noone cares. I've set up google alerts for pics and phrases, but what I've posted is basically all there is. Apart from some retarded ramblings like picrel.
I very much hope you reach a new breakthrough, and If I find something I'll be sure to post it on r9k with your pics attached (so you could find them in the archive by searching image hash).

>>82247153
>i dunno where to go from here
I'll just roll with it, see where it goes.
>by having some sort of community
Yeah, when I feel like it's time, I'll try turning /tbp/ into a general with a rentry, I just don't want to force it. Until then it's going to be limited to rare encounters with people who are interested. We'll see if there's an appetite for it.