Thread 82395515

You guys don't want to talk about the true reasons the birthrate is so low.

i am about to believe all that, but then I remember that the countries where the birth rate is increasing are the countries where all of those measures of prosperity and equality are the worst in the world

>>82395515 (OP)
wow chat this is so sad
thankfully based Elon solved this issue by advocating for HB1 visas

white people don't want to birth a loser
simple as

>>82395515 (OP)
Patriarchal societies have higher birthrates so is she one of those "trad" types arguing for a return to that or just retarded?

>>82395550
even india is below replacement. mexico and south america, below replacement. it's worst in europe and china, japan, korea. SE asia also hit hard

>>82395515 (OP)

Women really need to shut the fuck up. They are irrational, emotional creatures in-between a child and a man in terms of maturity and mental development.

>>82395515 (OP)
It's literally just birth control and abortion

>>82395515 (OP)
>NOOOOO THE STATE SHOULD SUBSIDISE ME AND CHAD'S KIDS!!!
how about sexual slavery and removing foids from the workplace

>>82395573
no one wants to birth a loser

Ignoring the retarded patriarchy driveby since patriarchy creates more children, she's mostly right. Fertility rates are just economics. In unskilled rural communites kids were cheap and would even help you economically. It's an extremely boring answer.

>costs costs costs
can whites just breed like 5-6x like they used to and white survivors get to live on.

>>82395515 (OP)
there is zero correlation between these issues and birth rates. Countries have addressed all these and more and it's done nothing to actually reverse the trend.

I still don't understand why the birthrate needs to rise, it feels overpopulated as is

>>82395515 (OP)
The only correlation we know of to low birthrates is women's education level. Slaves have kids. They have insufficient child care, no housing, live under a master and spend all day laboring for the comfort of their owner, with no healthcare to speak of, and still have babies, regularly. Shut up and bend over.

>>82395652
>I still don't understand why the birthrate needs to rise
Economics. All our economic systems were designed in a time where population growth was always positive, families were big, and sex was so rampant you had to convince people not to have it using extreme measures. Honestly nobody anticipated results like this. Economies without a growing labor force just don't grow. Pyramids need a larger base to grow higher. You can only make a worker so efficient, to get richer you need more people to sap the labor from.

>>82395652
>>82395674
It boils down to: number need to go up. All economic and state policy is reliant on number go up. If number not go up, it's over.

>>82395652
if nothing changes, in 100 years South Korea's population will be 15% of what it is today. Imagine going out somewhere and 7/8 people are gone. There will also be far more people over 65 and relatively few people of working age. With no one to care for them seniors will die en masse as soon as they stop being able to be self-sufficient. Not to mention that the pension and healthcare systems will collapse with no young people to fund them. It's basically a slow-motion apocalypse.

>>82395515 (OP)
We're here because we moved faster than our instincts could catch up, and instead of finding a utilitarian solution for that, the people on top are going full hardcore eugenics. 70% of dudes will probably not breed unless they go to a backwater SEA country, for the same reason they were born in the first place.

Chad wasn't publicized back then, he had the same rarity, but his face wasn't a button click away, and his home town wasn't a flight away. Your grandfathers were considered normal dudes for their time. You probably wouldn't have slayed back then, but you'd have had a chance.
What we're seeing now is the cold hard truth of eugenics being given a narrower berth in record time. All of the sudden, normal dudes are chud, and the guys who would have been considered faggy, uninteresting, or stupid, are chad. There are women out there who think marrying an abusechad who doesn't know how to wipe his ass is a good idea by virtue of his face giving people a good first impression. This species is fucked lol

>>82395515 (OP)
Easy counter is: why is Japan's birthrate so shit when they address most of this? School, healthcare, even access to childcare are all relatively cheap, if not free, there, but nips are still going extinct. The only ones left for a country like Japan are patriarchy and unequal domestic labor distribution. But in an age where consumer electronics are cheap and high quality, what's left for a wife/mom to do aside from folding clothes and cooking? The Roomba vacuums, and the washing machine does the heavy lifting for clothes. You're telling me women don't want to have kids because their husband won't do the dishes after they sat at home all day and did a few, mostly automated, chores and watched TV?

Let's just stop pretending, women don't like becoming mothers because they don't want to be in a partnership with a sub 8 man, nor do they wish to be tied down for 18 years at minimum. Women's number 1 priority in the developed world is to party as hard and as long as possible. There's no free service or reimbursement you can give them that makes motherhood an appealing option. Women will continue to avoid pregnancies, abort, and throw newborns in dumpsters because it's an obstacle to getting piss drunk every day and being part of Chad's harem.

>>82395535
People in those places are also poor, dumb and religitarded. They don't consider poverty and other issues before fucking without a condom, if they even know what a condom is. They see it as their duty to have kids.
Also, in those countries, you can have kids and use them as labor to work the fields. You don't need to send them to expensive schools and colleges. The cost of childcare is nowhere near as huge as it is in 1st/2nd world nations. And the kids obviously have shitty lives with poverty, work, malnourishment and dreaming of escaping their shitholes, some of them dying in the process.

>>82395515 (OP)
for me it's that i can't find a girlfriend willing to date me. sometimes i go to speed dating events and approach at the bus stops, but every attempt so far has lead to nothing.

>>82395697
>What we're seeing now is the cold hard truth of eugenics being given a narrower berth in record time
Not really.
1) Eugenics selects for pro-social and beneficial traits, modern sexual habits overwhelmingly select for negative traits like substance abuse, ADHD, and poor impulse control.

2) The extremely rich and extremely poor are reproducing like crazy: not because women are selecting "better", but because poor people don't give a shit, and the super rich can actually afford to reproduce.

We are actually experiencing dysgenic reproductive selection in most of those reproducing.

>>82395708
>speed dating
Tinder but IRL sounds soul crushing

>>82395717
what should i do instead if nothing works?

>>82395717
the sex ratio is better, at least. You still end up standing in the corner like that wojak at the party meme while Chad gets 20 girls' numbers, but they can't just swipe past you in a quarter second and you do get to say "hi" to a few of them.

>>82395737
Jerk off in front of the computer

>>82395687
>If number not go up, it's over.
Eh it's more like
> if number smaller than others, may lose war, must make number go up!
The prosperity of the economy is only valuable to the state in the way that it is eminently useful for war, both defensive and offensive power projection. Generating wealth for war is like storing nuts for winter. You're building cultural support and lots of collateral and maybe a military industry that can sustain you when you finally blow your top or someone tries to peg you.

>>82395708
At least we're both rich. I don't even want kids and financially it's fucking amazing. The economy is built so that wagecuck parents can barely get by, so when you don't have kids, even an average wage in a Euro country means you can live very comfortably and invest for early retirement.

>>82395746
horse racing game looks like that?

>>82395751
maybe i am rich if you take my location (eastern europe) into consideration, but for a western european, american, or canadian i would be lower middle class, at best.

>>82395515 (OP)
>patriarchy
Opinion discarded.

>>82395515 (OP)
Better explanation here
https://www.aporiamagazine.com/p/the-baby-boom

>unequal distribution of labor
find me a bitch who can cook and clean these days, you can't
women don't do shit and even that is too much for them

>>82395515 (OP)
Women's rights universally destroys birth rates. It's stronger than culture, religion or any other factor you can think of.

>>82395797
Eastern Euro too. You are rich. I'm around half of what you are, adding 700-800 Euros every month and I already feel disconnected from normalfags living paycheck to paycheck. I have zero financial stress and zero debt. I sometimes buy stuff like high end laptops and GPUs without a care. Rising cost of living doesn't affect me. At this rate, I'll be over 120k by the time I'm 40. My parents are close to 200k combined and I'm inheriting that + an apartment or two. Not having kids is what's making this possible.

>>82395827
my coworker does but she's fat, brown, and tattooed. If only she were white...

>>82395515 (OP)
But poorer, more patriarchal societies consistently have higher fertility and marriage rates than modern educated western societies.

>>82395647
youre an actual retard. You yap about "brown" countries having high birthrates, but that's not true at all. underdeveloped places have high birthrates, larger cities in "brown" countries in south america and india for example have lower birthrates because of similar problems - rising costs of education, living, and increased stress.
so fucking sick of absolute retards like you thinking theyre "high iq". You spout this kinda nonsense so casually and confidently, you're definitely clinically retarded.
>>82395573
this, these people need a reason to fearmonger and scapegoat others.

>>82395515 (OP)
-t. woman who can't even cook and has a triple digit chad cock count

>>82395939
when did I say anything about brown countries? I just said that attempts to reverse the trend have failed.

>>82395515 (OP)
Isn't Palestine a patriarchy? They don't let women vote or drive

>>82395515 (OP)
Uh, we do. Life in the West has gotten shit since the 90s; let alone since the 60s.
What sane person wants to bring more incel wage-slaves into this world, ran by the IMF and CCP?

>>82395634
It's bold assuming that you need skilled labor for late stage industry
>project managers
>consultants
>community managers
>recruiting and retention
>human resources
All first world only, bullshit, make-work jobs that literally any retard can do
But on-the-job training is completely fallen by the wayside in favor of credentialism

>>82395564
feminists genuinely believe that the low birth rates are because of a (non-existent) patriarchy. I think they mean oligarchy.

>>82395515 (OP)
>meanwhile Ahmed and Ngubu have 10+ kids while living in a warzone plagued by famines

>>82395515 (OP)
August 26, 1920

Covid was a bioweapon designed to kill tons of people. Reducing the birthrates was another way to cull the herd. They also created several wars for more death. 2020 was a mass culling of humans. And, were still living through this apocalyptic event. Earth was overpopulated basically, they made a lot of money by reducing the population. And this is said to increase the overall health of the survivors. We here on r9k got hit pretty hard. We have our livelihoods ruined and our families stolen. It sucks pretty bad. We also wont receive any benefit from this. The benefit to population culling is like getting paid slightly more for your job, but were incels who obviously cant manage to grind for mere tokens.

>>82395515 (OP)
>unequal distribution of work at home
Lmfao the shit whores say cracks me up

Feminism and Birth control are the real reasons why the birth rate is so low

Outlaw both things and we'll be gucci in 20 years

>>82397121
When the slaves get paid 10 percent more money for doing the same job, they are making 10 percent more. And, that translates into a healthier population. They will produce higher quality work. They will work longer and harder because they are less likely to starve to death or get dumb preventable diseases from lack of safety standards. They get better housing opportunities, theyre less likely to end up on the street. Theres more job opportunities. Ive thought this for awhile but im pretty sure like, the farmland is maxxed out already. Were producing like the maximum amount of food that earth can handle. So it sucks though if you got the bad end of this trade because you were literally the target of this war lol. Preventing you from starting a family was the goal. And it works really well because the people doing this have kept a lot of research hidden, so they could brainwash the slaves more effectively.

Broke, endebted people have the most kids, though. So I don't believe that the solution lies in giving women EVEN MORE STEM and business school grants.