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Anonymous No.82407375 >>82407380 >>82407388 >>82407389 >>82407449 >>82407491 >>82407510 >>82407536 >>82407542 >>82407609 >>82407753 >>82408125 >>82408557 >>82408675 >>82408828 >>82408872 >>82408878 >>82408917 >>82408939 >>82408944 >>82409883
Why does everyone hate AI art? The technology isn't there yet, but it's the only way untalented people like me will ever get to make their own anime.
Anonymous No.82407380 >>82407596
>>82407375 (OP)
>Why does everyone hate AI art?
I get sadistic pleasure out of paying artists to draw shit for me and I can't have that with an AI.
Anonymous No.82407388 >>82407404
>>82407375 (OP)
Why should anyone care if an untalented person is able to make their own anime?
Anonymous No.82407389 >>82407404
>>82407375 (OP)
Like this. The "six-finger" class of incomprehensible nonsense that does not go away with any new model. It says, "I didn't put any care into making this, so don't put in any care into looking at it."
Anonymous No.82407404 >>82407426 >>82407466
>>82407388
I care and maybe my autistic circle of friends would like it.
>>82407389
It doesn't matter how much effort or talent I have. There is legitimately no realistic way for me to make my own 12 episode anime without a team of animators, voice actors, ETC.
Anonymous No.82407426 >>82407486
>>82407404
>There is legitimately no realistic way for me to make my own 12 episode anime without a team of animators, voice actors, ETC.
Not with that attitude
Imagine seriously using AI to generate slop instead of 2D animation rigs.
Anonymous No.82407441 >>82407536
Exactly because of that. It robs them of the one thing they depended on to feel superior to you.
Anonymous No.82407449
>>82407375 (OP)
I don't mind AI, but it's obvious that 99,9% of people that use that do for money and scamming people
Anonymous No.82407466 >>82407481 >>82407486
>>82407404
>I care and maybe my autistic circle of friends would like it.
But why should anyone else care? If you really cared you would actually try and learn some form of art or animation. You're just lazy.
Anonymous No.82407481
>>82407466
>You're just lazy
If you spend 2 hours daily it'd take AT LEAST a decade for you to finish it. It isn't about skill anymore, it's just labour
Anonymous No.82407486 >>82407514 >>82407520 >>82407626 >>82411970
>>82407426
>>82407466
An episode of anime can take hundreds of thousands. It takes entire team efforts of underpaid workers who sleep very little and you think anyone can do it if they just try hard enough. Get out of the Naruto mindset.
Anonymous No.82407491
>>82407375 (OP)
My primary reason is because it's flooded the afternarket for any anime shit I want to buy. If I want to buy some wallscrolls, for example, I have to scroll past dozens of shitty AI generated art of that character before I find something drawn by a real person. My secondary reason is that it's just soulless slop. Each actual artist has their own unique style, but all AI art is the same boring, ugly shit.
Anonymous No.82407510
>>82407375 (OP)
They hate the standard Stable Diffusion art, the shit the Bing AI makes based on the many generals on boards here is indistinguishable from real art. Seriously it can fucking make fake PS1 screenshoos
Anonymous No.82407514
>>82407486
I mean, that's because they want to make the fastest possible. A season is almost impossible for a solo artist, but one episode is achievable in 3 years
Anonymous No.82407520 >>82407533
>>82407486
That's like saying a movie or album need to cost hundreds of thousands to produce. Yes, they cost a lot when professional studios are making them because they're hiring large teams of experienced people and using top of the line equipment. Nobody would reasonably expect studio quality work from an independent creator. The question is more about whether you'd find it worthwhile to actually create something yourself, even if it is flawed, or if you'd rather have some sterile AI creation that requires far less work. I think there is value in actually making something for yourself even if it is lower quality than what an AI can create.
Anonymous No.82407533 >>82407566
>>82407520
Holy retarded
A movie can be created in 1-2 year and an album can be made by anyone that knows how to play an instrument. Anime making is dozens of times harder than manga and manga making is dozens of times harder than movie and music
Anonymous No.82407536 >>82411368
>>82407441
>>82407375 (OP)

exactly
it takes away their power and meaning in the world
they want to have a monopoly on being able to draw, but with ai, it just takes it away and their powerless
they become closer to robots, so they have to shame ai with "i hate ai slop" campaigns

but the development of technology is basically unstoppable (minus an apocalypse). it will only get better, and with each passing new model being better than the last, eventually no human will be able to compete
Anonymous No.82407542 >>82407575 >>82407576 >>82407619 >>82408441 >>82411756
>>82407375 (OP)
There's nothing wrong with it in essence, and I enjoy it myself, but the flooding of the internet with it is really horrible. Because it's soulless. It doesn't come from a place of human expression. There is a story behind every piece of human-produced art. AI art is simply churned out slop.
Anonymous No.82407566
>>82407533
You missed my point entirely. I'm not saying that making a movie is the same as making manga or anime. I'm saying that independent creators shouldn't be concerned with studio budgets because that's not relevant to what they're doing and that I believe it's worthwhile to learn and practice an artform if you're genuinely passionate about it instead of letting an ai generate for you. Of course it's hard, but I think it's worth the time and effort in the end. If you aren't capable of it then that's on you.
Anonymous No.82407575
>>82407542
I hate this type of reasoning and how common it is
People don't truly enjoy things, they enjoy the circumstances of it. They don't enjoy games, they enjoy the feeling of being a kid again. They don't enjoy art, they enjoy the "connection" they had with it

People are so narcissistic that is nauseating
Anonymous No.82407576
>>82407542
>Because it's soulless
and the things humans do is not soulless?
cmon bro dont try to entertain me with this garbo

>It doesn't come from a place of human expression
yes it does. some human prompted it. it comes from a human. you just dont like that humans now have more power to make art en mass
Anonymous No.82407596 >>82407768
>>82407380
AI art is good cause itll only make those kinds of artists cheaper. Like those $5 artists on some sites. Its nice to make someone do shit for you for so cheap. Also artist just draw. Not like youre doing this super specialized skill few can do. Stop thinking youre owed hundreds to thousands for doodling. As AI gets better these fags will learn their place quicker.
Anonymous No.82407605 >>82407641
I wonder if the same people ITT who think you can make your own anime if you just try hard enough also think you can obtain elon musk wealth if you just "work hard"
Anonymous No.82407609
>>82407375 (OP)
most of the backlash against AI art seems to come from failing artists who feel like their livelihood is being threatened and they need to halt the progression of technology to protect themselves
Anonymous No.82407619
>>82407542
>place of human expression
not everything has to have that? also a lucky churned out slop can be pretty to look at. it really isn't an argument to me.

I think a lot of it is just herd mentality at this point. and it probably started with the same thing I had myself of hating the default novelai style. there is a lot to be said about brain making an association between it and low quality crap. but I also wonder if the first novelai model had a better default style maybe it wouldn't have been that bad?
Anonymous No.82407626 >>82408487 >>82408504
>>82407486
It costs that much because you need people for those roles.
Just make virtual people for those roles and do anime the right way with robots instead of soullessly with robots.
Anonymous No.82407641
>>82407605
They're retarded. It doesn't matter your skill level. You still are going to spend a decade doing that shit
Some things aren't about skill, but the time you put in

If you want to show off your skill then being an illustrator is better than being a mangaka/anime maker
Anonymous No.82407735
It takes like 40-60 hours to make a hyper realistic drawing, that translates to 3-4 pages of manga. 3-4 pages of manga isn't even 1 minute of anime(the time that it takes to make)
Skill doesn't matter that much after beginner. What matters is how many hours you spend on that
Anonymous No.82407753
>>82407375 (OP)
AI art sucks, but people who are actually talented artists can find ways to adapt
Anonymous No.82407768 >>82408544
>>82407596
Nah you can learn your place as a poor broke loser, actual art isn't getting any cheaper, most ai artists have to spend all day generating, get a powerful gpu, spend a tonne extra and sell like 2000 images for $5, and then make a loss from the time and electricity bill, what a joke
Anonymous No.82408125 >>82408401 >>82408474
>>82407375 (OP)
>but it's the only way untalented people like me will ever get to make their own anime.
therein lies the problem. we do not want untalented people making art and flooding art spaces with their talentless thoughtless bullshit
Anonymous No.82408401
>>82408125
t. patreon furry "artist"
Anonymous No.82408441 >>82408494
>>82407542
>Because it's soulless.
Kys subhuman, this is not an argument and it makes zero sense, nothing has soul you gay ass faggot.
Anonymous No.82408474 >>82408557 >>82408812 >>82408844
>>82408125
>we do not want untalented people making art and flooding art spaces with their talentless thoughtless bullshit
haha
deal with it. its great because it empowers people who want to create and takes away people who want a monopoly on drawing power

this will happen for all other forms of power too, like beauty, or work, or intelligence, etc

deal with it. with ai advancements, you are becoming less relevant, because your special unique talents are easily replaced
Anonymous No.82408487
OP has yet to address this >>82407626
Anonymous No.82408494 >>82409372
>>82408441
>you gay ass faggot
>post bbc cuck porn
anon... the irony is kind of annoying... cmon now...
Anonymous No.82408504 >>82408531
>>82407626
>Just make virtual people for those roles
I'm too retarded to understand that
Anonymous No.82408531
>>82408504
Just tell the bot to make a list of all the credited jobs at the beginning and end of anime during the credits, and then tell the bot to write prompts for all those jobs. At least one of those should be an "Executive producer" role so that it can coordinate all the other sub-roles.
Anonymous No.82408544 >>82408763
>>82407768
Seethe art fag. Youre seeing the very beginning of it. Soon people will be doing this shit on a calculator and look better than what some mentally ill artist can do.
Anonymous No.82408557 >>82408586
>>82407375 (OP)
>make their own anime.
Why do you want to make your own anime? What would it be like?

>>82408474
>it empowers people who want to create
You're not creating anything, you're plugging prompts into a program that creates it for you.

creativity is a process, it's about you translating your own thoughts as physical drawings or as words in a story or as music notes, etc.

It's like going to the gym and having a forklift lift the weights for you. It's not about lifting the weights as the end goal, it's the process of lifting the weights and what it does do you. Same with creativity.
Anonymous No.82408586 >>82408855 >>82409011
>>82408557
>You're not creating anything, you're plugging prompts into a program that creates it for you.
the same thing happens with human artists
you get an idea from prompts from your sensory inputs (like vision, hearing, touch, smell) and you create something. ai just makes it easier for people

>creativity is a process, it's about you translating your own thoughts as physical drawings or as words in a story or as music notes, etc.
no. it USED to be bound by years of training and a human brain
now its not. now we can just use ai, and anyone can make high quality pictures
this is the new reality with the advent of ai
deal with it

>It's not about lifting the weights as the end goal
no, for most people it is the end goal (the art)
if you want to learn drawing skills go ahead. nobody is stopping you
but your drawing skills are irrelevant to anyone besides yourself, because now anyone can make high quality art
Anonymous No.82408652
AI only is retarded when it comes to books. You can make 5-6 books per year if you write 2 hours daily. Meanwhile if you draw 2 hours daily it'd take more than 4 years for you to finish a small manga of 20 chapters. To make an anime it's even longer
Anonymous No.82408675 >>82408864
>>82407375 (OP)
How else are they going to sell their gay furry art commissions to someone if AI can make better stuff in 30 seconds?
Anonymous No.82408701
If you're an "artist" and you only do commissions, there's no difference between you and an AI
Anonymous No.82408763 >>82408905 >>82409239
>>82408544
I've used both, ai is shit, there's a reason why nobody wants to pay for it you poor boring ai slop addicted loser
Anonymous No.82408812 >>82409239
>>82408474
>haha i'm turning everything into absolute shit and you can't stop me
please commit suicide
Anonymous No.82408828
>>82407375 (OP)
>Why does everyone hate AI art
It's pure mass hysteria at this point, you'll get shit from those people for using AI chatbots
>it uses hundreds of gallons of water to generate a single image
no it doesn't, you can host an AI model on your computer and generate shit nonstop and your computer won't set on fire because of it
Anonymous No.82408844
>>82408474
>with ai advancements, you are becoming less relevant, because your special unique talents are easily replaced
The fact that Silicon Valley techbros unironically think you can fully replace human activity even in mediums where the whole purpose is human connection is ghastly. The fact that they would even want to is even worse.
Anonymous No.82408855
>>82408586
>NOW WITH Al, ANYONE CAN CREATE PICTURES AT THE STROKF SOME SOME FINGETIPS. THE FUTURE NOW, OLD MAN
Anonymous No.82408864
>>82408675
I have used both, you'll have to keep it running all day, trying different prompts and settings for hours to get a decent one, and even then people know you're a talentless loser who wishes they could've spent that time drawing it with your own art style, getting the right angle and getting people to focus on the the right places and adding what you want to the pic is very important, something that AI can't do.

Unless a fursona is very well known the ai won't be able to copy it at all, will make it too big or small, too fat or skinny or a million other things. Also you look poor as fuck getting a AI fursona. Artists on twitter are making a killing and AI artists are throwing shit at the wall desperately trying to be relevant
Anonymous No.82408872 >>82408886
>>82407375 (OP)
>but it's the only way untalented people like me will ever get to make their own anime
Making an entire anime takes a whole team of people no amount of talent can make you produce a season of anime on your own.
Also more people don't want to practice to get better at art or even do art at all because AI can do it. Which means you will never be able to draw something and be proud of it. Being proud of the techniques, theory, hard effort poured in. Now you will just write a prompt and some machine poops out an image. You wanna fix a small detail? Too bad.
Anonymous No.82408873
I draw when I want to do something serious and use AI to make shitpost/fetish
Anonymous No.82408878 >>82408903
>>82407375 (OP)
There is no life in AI art. Part of the appeal of making and experiencing art to begin with stems from who made it to begin with, and the stories you build after experiencing the art, and (perhaps) the artist themself. AI is regurgitaion. Ai will never make anything unique or worth pondering over. I look to art because at the risk of sounding even more like an uppity pretentious fag, and for a lack of better words, art is life. Making art takes some level of soul and pain, something from yourself, some human spirit. Pressing a button and letting a non-feeling soulless entity crunching numbers spit out regugitated "art" from real and non real entities is akin to having a robot open your onions bottle. I wont participate or encourage the result of AI and non AI generated human/non human human centipede that is "AI """""art"""""".
Anonymous No.82408886 >>82408906
>>82408872
>Being proud of the techniques, theory, hard effort poured in
It's incredible how so many retards fall for le journey is the reward
Anonymous No.82408903 >>82408929
>>82408878
>Part of the appeal of making and experiencing art to begin with stems from who made it to begin with, and the stories you build after experiencing the art, and (perhaps) the artist themself
Now I understand why so many "artists" are fags, trannies, furries, etc. just a bunch of faggots
Anonymous No.82408905 >>82409034 >>82409062
>>82408763
I guess reading comprehension is not the strong suit of art fags. This current ai slop is the shittiest its ever gonna be. A couple. Years ago it created barely legible abominations. Years later its created things that won an art show. Years from now its gonna create amazing things youll have full control over. Cope and seethe.
Anonymous No.82408906
>>82408886
Low iq take. This is like saying you watch a show just for it's ending. You enjoy every part of it.
Anonymous No.82408917
>>82407375 (OP)
I feed my own art to AI
Anonymous No.82408929 >>82408963
>>82408903
Ironic, because they show more humanity than soulless cynical bots like your type that flood every corner of the internet
Anonymous No.82408939
>>82407375 (OP)
Because it's never your own anime, it's just a bunch of vomit from the AI guessing whatever you type into it.

Any shitty doodle you make will have more of your identity on it, and forget about sovl or whatever, it will simply allow you both to feel more fulfilled with the act of creation and allow you to explore those things you haven't thought about in a better way. Using AI you are deliberately choosing to contain yourself in a non particularly good black box.
Anonymous No.82408944 >>82408968
>>82407375 (OP)
>Why does everyone hate AI art?
Art is gesture, not just material. AI art generates material with no context, resulting in art that is vacant and meaningless. In a context where "meaning" is kinda the whole point, art without meaning becomes less than inert; it becomes a personal affront, which is what warrants vitriol.
What's worse is that AI art doesn't even really spit out good material, really. Garbled imprecise details, uninspired and derivative executions, continuity errors, spelling errors, errors errors errors everywhere...all the artistry is just. Gone.

So AI just isn't really good at anything it sets out to do. As the technology improves it will get better at creating material, sure, but that material will always remain vacant.

The attempt to replace the artist with a machine that just kinda generates images on the spot is misguided. It demonstrates a very fundamental misunderstanding of what the purpose of art even is in the first place. These soulless techniggers look at a painting and only see paint. And then they think, hm, you could get a machine to do this. Which is true but missing the point entirely.

Anyway death to all techniggers.
Anonymous No.82408963
>>82408929
I prefer to be a cold husk that don't think than to be a subhuman faggot. Modern art and artists are trash and I'm glad that AI is destroying it's foundation
Anonymous No.82408968
>>82408944
>DISCLAIMER
AI is merely a tool. It can be used in tasteful ways during the artistic process. Most people wouldn't care if you, say, used machine learning to develop synth presets or source thousands upon thousands of real images to create a collage out of. Painstaking labor doesn't, in itself, make the art better. The problem is when people lean too much on AI and create dogshit by letting it make all the artistic choices.

Treat it as a helper, not an artist in itself.
Anonymous No.82409000 >>82409032 >>82409045 >>82409060 >>82409062
Btw, artniggers think a banana on the wall is art. They saying "soulless" is the epitome of idiocy. Art died in the 20th century, therefore it doesn't matter if AI gives the final blow to it
Anonymous No.82409011
>>82408586
>you create something. ai just makes it easier for people
Artists are people as well, and it's easy to draw/write/compose/etc.

What's more is that it's an enjoyable process.

>now we can just use ai, and anyone can make high quality pictures
again, you're not making anything. You're having a digital machine do it for you. You're depriving yourself of the joy of the creative process, and also making yourself retarded in the process.

If you're not concerned with the process of creativity and you just want to make a quick buck, go scam some grandmas out of their retirement fund using AI instead.

>no, for most people it is the end goal (the art)

You're not an artist, clearly, so what do you need "the art" for?
Anonymous No.82409032 >>82409059
>>82409000
>Btw, artniggers think a banana on the wall is art.
It is. And it's quite notable as a gesture. Worth far more in discussion than anything machine learning has ever produced in all of its existence. One asshole taped a banana to a wall and we're STILL talking about it years later. Cry about it.

>inb4 AI art is also art tho
It is. Art can be terrible, that doesn't mean it's not art.
Anonymous No.82409034
>>82408905
only because its now been fed all the art to copy, If you trace a decent artist, people will think you are a good artist until you're caught. If there are no more artists, it has nothing more to copy lol. You're probably a broke loser failed artist who had to resort to trying to make what little you can off AI art on twitter and mad that the real artists are getting all the money and followers
Anonymous No.82409045 >>82409059 >>82409089 >>82409149
>>82409000
do techniggers really see the duchamp urinal and think "i don't get it, it's just a urinal"? does context really not matter to these people? when they see a painting, are they really only admiring the paint? my god.
Anonymous No.82409059 >>82409077 >>82409113
>>82409032
>>82409045
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAH
Shitposters or subhumans
Anonymous No.82409060
>>82409000
AI brain damaged chuds think typing in words for the ai to copy and trace from actual artists is art
Anonymous No.82409062
>>82409000
>Art died
>>82408905
>AI slop won an art show.
my man needs Grok GPT to do his thinking for him and come up with arguments that don't contradict each other
Anonymous No.82409077
>>82409059
>t. assmad filtered artlet
Anonymous No.82409088
It feels good being a real artist among so much faggotery. I don't even sell my art. Those twitter fags are more trash than AI
Anonymous No.82409089
>>82409045
I think there's a special subset of autism that makes them unable to see or hear art.

Like how once in a blue moon there's a thread by a level 10 autist who complains that he doesn't get music. Not that he like hates top 40 normie pop music, but that he doesn't understand and hates music as a concept.
Anonymous No.82409113
>>82409059
>filtered by a BANANA
>seething at a BANANA
>basedraging at a BANANA
>genuinely tweaking at a BANANA
Anonymous No.82409125
I've only met 2 based art guys, one being myself, while the rest are all a bunch of retards that think "expression = art"
Anonymous No.82409149 >>82409169 >>82409181
>>82409045
People can understand the concept and context, that won't stop them from calling you a retard
Art tards are so full of themselves that they can't imagine someone understanding something and not liking it anyway. "If you didn't liked it, it's because you didn't understood"
Anonymous No.82409169
>>82409149
>you didn't understood
lil homey needs AI to conjugate his verbs properly

AI is reducing native English speakers to the status of Indians where they're unable to formulate thoughts without the help of three different AI apps.
Anonymous No.82409181
>>82409149
>"If you didn't liked it, it's because you didn't understood"
i'm not implying you didn't understand it merely because you didn't like it. i'm implying you didn't understand it because you've shown little understanding for what it even is or what makes it so significant. you literally just see banana and think ok, it's a banana. no different from any other banana. are people seeing beauty in this? it's a banana. these people are retarded.
it displays a narrow and retarded notion of what art is or should be.
Anonymous No.82409239 >>82409256 >>82409263 >>82409317 >>82409622
>>82408763
>>82408812

haha
artists are the biggest normies. they are always sex havering turbonormies. they have losing their special priveleges to ai
only people with nothing to lose love ai. people with power hate ai

ai is only getting better
it wont be too long where it will be absolutely perfect. in the last 3 years it went from trash to incredible
Anonymous No.82409256 >>82409455
>>82409239
so the only reason you like ai art is misanthropy? you know it's shit and that's what you like about it?
Anonymous No.82409263 >>82409455
>>82409239
AI is also putting STEMcels out of work
Anonymous No.82409309 >>82409337
>be me
>shit on a panel
>put it on a museum
>"That isn't art"
>Look at this buffoon. His understanding of art is shallow. Art, darling, is not about pleasing your pedestrian sensibilities--it's about provocation, raw expression, and shattering boundaries. A figure voiding their bowels on a panel? That's not mere filth, it's a primal manifesto, a visceral rejection of sanitized societal norms. The panel, stained and defiled, becomes a canvas of rebellion, capturing the artist's bodily truth in a way no sterile brushstroke ever could. It challenges you to confront your disgust, your fragility, your obsession with cleanliness, and forces you to question: why do you recoil? Is it the act or your own conditioning? Embrace the stench, or stay in your safe little gallery box.
Anonymous No.82409317 >>82409455
>>82409239
>ai is only getting better
>it wont be too long where it will be absolutely perfect.
That's a wild assumption anon. Most technologies tend to hit a plateau after a certain point and their flaws become mostly endemic. Constant progress is not guaranteed, and even if it were, even if machine learning improved to a point where it became totally indistinguishable from fully human art, that wouldn't really even matter, because as previously stated, art is more than just material alone. So the problems with it are intrinsic to its very existence and can't be patched out with software updates. The problem is philosophical.
Anonymous No.82409337 >>82409378
>>82409309
>be me
>shit on a panel
>put it on a museum
>"That isn't art"
see there it is again, another demonstration that you don't fully understand what the duchamp toilet or the banana taped to the wall even signifies as a gesture. you think it's just transgressive for no particular reason, controversy for controversy's sake without any higher purpose. you refuse to think about anything further than the surface level, which explains your affinity for ai art.
Anonymous No.82409372 >>82409419
>>82408494
Fucking and cucking asian and whitebois is one of the most mainly things you can do.
Anonymous No.82409378 >>82409420
>>82409337
What are you talking about? They're art. I completely support them, people that think otherwise are lowly peasants without critical artistic view
Anonymous No.82409402 >>82409429
>teaching my kid to play an instrument
>"Why not just get suno to make music and just listen to that? Why go through all this trouble?"

>making my kid write an essay
>"Can't I just get chatgpt to write it and go do something else?"

>teaching my kid to program
>"Why do I need to know any of this? I can just describe what I want and make claude do it, this is too much work"
I'm so fucking scared for this generation.
Anonymous No.82409419
>>82409372
>gets btfo'd on ai taking over jobs
>proceed with "muh bbc"

cmon bro.... hahhahahaha
why hate me? why try to hurt me?
ai will take over power from everyone else as well, haha
with sexbot production, eventually you too can have harems of whatever girls you want
man, so mean spirited!
Anonymous No.82409420
>>82409378
ok but you do see where the false equivalence is right? can you stop being a sniveling sarcastic shithead for one second and just answer even a single question in good faith
Anonymous No.82409429 >>82409444
>>82409402
Good old strawmanning
Anonymous No.82409444
>>82409429
???

I'm not strawmanning anything. I'm complaining about how much my kid complains about doing things. He doesn't take joy in creating or performing or communicating or doing, only the results. It's genuinely disturbing.
Anonymous No.82409455 >>82409470 >>82409510 >>82409525
>>82409263
great! i support is 100%. i think its wonderful
i think everyone ought to lose power, haha. then they'll be just like a real r9k robot; powerless and hopeless

>>82409256
no but i must admit, my distaste for humans makes watching ai make them obsolete just a bit bit sweeter :^)

>>82409317
>Constant progress is not guaranteed
progress has not slowed down in the last 100 years. i dont see it slowing down in the next 10, and as long as it continues, then there will be an intelligence explosion once ai surpasses humans in intelligence

>because as previously stated, art is more than just material alone. So the problems with it are intrinsic to its very existence and can't be patched out with software updates. The problem is philosophical.
really? i dont think so at all
if ai robots can replace human girls once they're sophisticated enough... why wouldnt it be able to replace artists?
sounds like wishful thinking
Anonymous No.82409470
>>82409455
>no but i must admit, my distaste for humans makes watching ai make them obsolete just a bit bit sweeter :^)
...so yes
Anonymous No.82409485
Artists cope about le journey because most of them are failed. Art is a great hobby to have, but anyone that has it as a career is fated to be a fag
Anonymous No.82409510 >>82409569
>>82409455
>be NEET
>can't even spend a few minutes out of your unemployed day to learn how to draw
>instead be mad at normies
>applaud the downfall of your civilization, even thought it means you won't get NEETbux anymore

based retard
Anonymous No.82409525 >>82409592
>>82409455
>progress has not slowed down in the last 100 years.
I'm not talking about the progress of the entire human race. I'm talking about the progression of specific fields of technology. You invent the wheel and then you've got a wheel. Not too many ways you can improve on it after a certain point.
>i dont see it slowing down in the next 10,
You don't know that, though. Historically we've run into centuries long periods of stagnation before, progress isn't guaranteed.
>and as long as it continues, then there will be an intelligence explosion once ai surpasses humans in intelligence
You speak as if all of this is guaranteed to happen. As if things can't go off course. As if you can't be surprised. As if you know the future.
>really? i dont think so at all
You're quite wrong. Art wouldn't be anywhere near as important or influential as it is without its underlying semiotics.
>if ai robots can replace human girls once they're sophisticated enough... why wouldnt it be able to replace artists? sounds like wishful thinking
LOL. LMAO.
Yes good luck waiting for that day to come. Hypperrealistic humanoid drones indistinguishable from real humans are just around the corner. Any day now.
Anonymous No.82409546 >>82409594 >>82409683
82407536
82408474
82408544
these are the types of goblins who AI appeals to most
narcissistic people who resent others for having skills, talent, etc.
these posts make me want to beat the shit out of these posters
and I'm not even an artist lmao I'm a programmer
still I can recognize lack of a soul when I see it :)
Anonymous No.82409569 >>82409593 >>82409653
>>82409510
>>applaud the downfall of your civilization, even thought it means you won't get NEETbux anymore
Based. Anyway, even without NEETbux it's easy to make some money scamming people, just like how artists do
Anonymous No.82409592
>>82409525
Would you argue with a crackhead on the street? Because that's what you're doing right now. There's really no point. Anon is a soulless goon who has no character and likes AI because he thinks it will make everyone as worthless as him. You could have a more productive conversation with someone who both supports AI and has a soul, but you won't have a meaningful conversation with a spiteful retard like anon. Berate him or whatever but don't try to reason with it.
Anonymous No.82409593 >>82409791
>>82409569
>it's easy to make some money scamming people, just like how artists do
artists don't scam people
Anonymous No.82409594
>>82409546
Based. I was just about to start writing a post about how I've noticed that proponents of AI art tend to be really bitter and angry people and I couldn't really piece together why but you pretty much made it click in my mind. Thanks codebro :)
Anonymous No.82409622 >>82409753
>>82409239
imagine trying to insult someone for having sex, so you're a virgin with rage that's mad because others can draw and you can't, just stay making shitty generic broken AI copies of art that you wish you could actually make and let artists get on with getting followers and money
Anonymous No.82409653
>>82409569
That's interesting, do you think that you will die alone or will AI be able to save you with an artificial GF? At least you may be able to generate a six-fingered picture of who you wish your GF to be, even if the technology for AI GFs isn't there by the time you pass away. Maybe if you take care of yourself and stop living the lifestyle you do atm you'll live to 60 or 70 but even then I doubt AI will reach that point. Oh well.
Anonymous No.82409683 >>82409709 >>82409762
>>82409546
I mean, I'm millionaire, know how to draw, play instruments, make my own videogame, make my own books, know 5+ languages yet I see no problem with AI, it's the opposite in fact. People without skills feel threatened by AI, why would you care if you are better?
Anonymous No.82409709 >>82409763
>>82409683
You are not any of these things, jeetboy.
Anonymous No.82409753
>>82409622
>imagine trying to insult someone for having sex
The fact you can't comprehend that is laughable, go learn art from the beginning, start from something simple like Don Juan. For artists to be able to make people feel emotions, first they need to understand the human condition. Something that they can't do anymore since "anyone can be an artist" is the theme as of now
Anonymous No.82409762
>>82409683
>know 5+ languages
You barely know how to write a couple of sentences in English without obvious mistakes
Anonymous No.82409763 >>82409787 >>82409810
>>82409709
>complain about narcissistic people
>immediately reject something that contradict their belief
kek
Anonymous No.82409787
>>82409763
>is barely able to write in English
lol
Anonymous No.82409791 >>82409818
>>82409593
>artists don't scam people
Charging anything above 0 dollars for a drawing that you made is a scam
Anonymous No.82409810 >>82409839
>>82409763
It's true though, isn't it? Silly jeet thinks he's fooling anyone with his ESL post
Anonymous No.82409818 >>82409842
>>82409791
Why? If people want to buy and the artist wants to sell, everyone's happy and satisfied.

Except for you, of course. You're mad at the world.
Anonymous No.82409839 >>82409854
>>82409810
saar please to do not make foolishness of my several skill and ability, I make book and makes video game and play guitar on the moons because I am millionaire astronaut artist with wife of supermodel
Anonymous No.82409842 >>82410099
>>82409818
>le demand
Doesn't change the fact that's a scam. I charge 300 bucks for someone to talk with me for a hour. They pay because they want, it's still a scam, not legally, but morally
Anonymous No.82409854 >>82411378
>>82409839
>play guitar
I won't bother correcting the others, but I don't play that retarded instrument. I play violin
Anonymous No.82409883 >>82410093
>>82407375 (OP)
i'm prop AI, i'm waiting for when elons video game making AI is crazy good, enough to make a complex game. right now it's at pong level, but in a few years it'll be crazy and when that happens i'll make a cool ass game.

google has a video game making AI too, they'll probably charge money to use it, but it'll be affordable.

we'll be able to make games that look like 90s anime or literally any art style it'll be awesome.
but there will be sooo many games when this happens that a lot of good games will get lost in the noise.

pic related, the art style i'd like to make a game in.
Anonymous No.82410093 >>82410149
>>82409883
not to be rude or anything but it's very obvious from what you've written that you don't really know much about what ai is or how it works.
Anonymous No.82410099
>>82409842
How is it a scam if you're providing services or goods to someone who is willing to pay for them?

Go ahead and ask Chat GPT, I'll wait.
Anonymous No.82410149
>>82410093
i don't know anything at all about it actually so you would be right anon.
Anonymous No.82411368 >>82411631
>>82407536
I love how we keep accelerating technology so we can consume more and make everything easier while taking away the things that actually fulfill people
Anonymous No.82411378
>>82409854
saar i play the violin saaar
Anonymous No.82411631 >>82411958
>>82411368
only sex, love, intimacy is meaningful and fulfilling
and problem is, theres lots of loneliness out there. the whole point is to have an ai robot girl that looks like this so you can lewd her, cuddle with her, have her love bomb you all day, and be into your fetishes
Anonymous No.82411756 >>82411839
>>82407542
Being able to identify with this intuitively is like the litmus test of whether you have a soul or not, or appreciate or respect art in any way. I can't understand the people who dismiss this. If Michelangelo's David or the Sistine Chapel was spat out by a computer do you think it would have the same meaning? I don't know why I expect better of people who think some moeshit anime or something is the peak of art.
Anonymous No.82411839
>>82411756
>If Michelangelo's David or the Sistine Chapel was spat out by a computer do you think it would have the same meaning?
yes absoluetly
Anonymous No.82411958
>>82411631
Why do you think you're going to be able to get a robot GF?
Those won't be for you, if they ever exist in the first place.
You'll live more or less the same life you do now, except a little bit less consensual.
You're still going to be a chronic masturbator gooning to porn, except now you'll have a "job" as a brain being studied.
You will be more intermeshed with your goonbox, your brain may be directly wired into the machine, and you will have implants, etc. monitoring your vitals and administering drugs, etc. to you
You will be locked into a shitty VR world
Your brain activity will be useful to collect data on, you will never have to work or develop at all, you can just sit around all day doing what you do now but your lab rat status will be a little more "hard" than "soft" like it is now
But you will never have a GF, not even a robo GF
Just because artists, coders, etc. won't be as valuable doesn't mean you will become anymore valuable
You will be one of the "useless eaters", you will be useless for your labor but your brain and body will be useful enough for the powers that be to keep you around living in a little box not that much unlike your current situation, just slightly less consensual
Eventually of course, you will come to enjoy this situation and find it to be quite comfortable, so there's nothing to fear for you personally
However, you will never have a robot GF, sorry.
Maybe you'll get a virtual one, if they decide to let you have one, but more than likely your brain is going to get turned to a mushy computer thing incapable of even having enough memory to remember a "GF"
Anonymous No.82411970
>>82407486
There was a girl in YouTube who made a whole series on mmd with her oc banging her husbando you can do it anon