Thread 82881070

How many men actually want to be women and why? Not even for tranny or faggotry reasons I just like how womens apparel looks and feels and especially sits on the female form but I dont wear it because my body shape sucks so all I can do is scroll pixiv and pinterest

>>82881070 (OP)
>why?
because being a nonchad male in present time is living a second class, barely human experience
it would be nice to have people not be hostile towards me for once

>>82881070 (OP)
I wouldn't want to permanently become one, but I always thought it would be cool to be able to genderbend back and forth at will. Like just wake up and decide whether to be male or female on that particular day.

>>82881070 (OP)
Most men are jealous of women

>>82881070 (OP)
Evelyn makes me feel things I've never felt before

>>82881253
This just try larping as a girl online and it is like day and night. People care about you or at least pretend to. While as a men you get nothing. Also it is hot to be desiered just for existing.

>>82881070 (OP)
you dont need to troon out to dress like a woman. we already had a name for straight men who appreciated a more feminine appearance and lifestyle. it's called metrosexual. we had it before the troons, before the femboys, before the traps. it was normal, ideal women. rockstars did it and it was cool. now it's just gay

>>82881253
>>82881461
Im in the worst of both worlds, not only am I short (5'4) for male standards, I also have narrow hips that I inherited from my mother and my ass is flat and my shoulders look weird
If I want to dress up as anything besides casual male streetwear I just look ugly and retarded, especially if its womens clothes
Literally cant do anything about it because Im also broke to afford surgeries to indulge myself
What a fucked up life

>>82881658
that sounds rather unfortunate anon

>>82881436
i'm always surprised by how ready to worship a woman other men are, all it takes is an actual proof of being a woman

>>82881070 (OP)
Mostly intrigue in experiencing an existence completely different to my own. Same thing as wondering what it would be like to be a different race, species, live in a different time period, etc.
I will admit that when I think about what it would be like to be the opposite sex, it is almost always imagining myseld as being beautiful and highly desired as opposed to just being a normal woman. I would say I am in the same boat as >>82881258 it would be cool to just pick and choose when and where I could be male or female.

>>82882264
For me its a deep ache in my entire mind and body, soul and heart
It just hurts that I was denied a coin flip and now I suffer, and wasnt even given anything else to compensate
I think even being tortured or being a medieval peasant would be easier because in both I would have a life goal to aspire (save myself or work to not starve) and/or have a guarantee of death
Yet in this modern society I am a prisoner in my own flesh and room, with nothing to do and no grand goal to achieve
Its just a nihilistic emptiness from as long as I can remember until I die forgotten by the world
And I was not even granted the dignity of having at least a general body shape outline that wouldnt hurt anytime I look in the mirror or even just look down

>>82881070 (OP)
>>82881658
>>82882504
You're a massive motherfucking tranny trooney loon and should do service to your family by splattering your brain onto the wall!

>>82881070 (OP)
Sex with Eve

>>82882154
A lot of men are very lonely and want a relationship so they take every chance they get. There are around 10 % more men than women under 50 and a lot of women share one man.

It would be fine to be a woman for a time.

I am happy as a man though. I think I would want the ability to become a femboy for a bit. I just want to crossdress~

>>82882791
Frog posters are rude for no reason

>>82883418
always safe to skip imo

>>82883018
>>82883417
For me it has nothing to do with a need for a relationship or some social status or anything of those sorts, I just feel empty the way I am
Like I was robbed of a fundamental law of reality and thats it, I cant fight it so I just descend into entropy

please stop repping

>>82884087
Repping what? Huh?

And I wish I was a man. Men are practical and don't have the weird constraints of society or to behave like a virgin fucktoy and a baby machine

>>82884148
>Repping what?
trannyism

>>82884162
Just be practical, not a fucktoy and don't have kids?

>>82884162
I dont really know that feeling, Im already treated like invisible trash for being a manlet
At least being female would let me play a role in society and then Id have some value, and even then I just want to be comfortable in myself
>>82884172
Im not a tranny

>>82881070 (OP)
I enjoy crossdressing, but I also enjoy being a man. I hate this crop of young trannies who insist I'm trans because I enjoy dressing up. For me it's playtime. They hate when I say that. God forbid a motherfucker tries to unwind. I think if crossdressing as a whole was more accepted then there would be less trannies because the taboo factor would be gone. I think these fuckers get off on being told they aren't a woman.

>>82884207
i think you'll find like minded individuals in >>>/lgbt/repgen

>>82881070 (OP)
Ok, unironically, completely seriously, independent of any other considerations about labels.
Are you on estrogen?
Do you want to be on estrogen?
I ask because you seem to not like your body shape, and being on estrogen generally changes it.

>>82881070 (OP)
My quality of life would objectively be better as a woman, but I hate the idea of being shorter, having wide hips and breasts

>>82884293
No and it wont make a difference because of my biology and genetics
It also would never make me actually a female woman either
Theres nothing in it for me

>>82884023
bro just find some other hobby holy shit

>>82884378
>>82884023
Hey cutie. There is no miracle medicine; no operation, nothing that can change you from man to woman.

That roll was made at your conception. You must accept it.

*headpats*

>>82881070 (OP)
It would be nice to have people like me and have value simply for existing instead of just being a piece of detritus.
Maybe it's just the family I grew up in. My dad used to beat me up if I cried or complained he said I should stop being a faggot. Yet none of my female cousins were expected the same, they could do whatever they want.

Unfortunately I've discovered that it's pretty much the same way everywhere on earth. Men showing vulnerability is disgusting and warrants violence. Women showing vulnerability and crying means you have to help them. It would be nice if I could simply just be myself and nothing else and still be loved.

>>82884878
Then I guess I should just kill myself
I already knew that fact but I simply lack the strength to go out in any capacity
>>82884932
It really truly would be nice to have people appreciate my existence without strings

>>82885057
>Then I guess I should just kill myself
No I can't agree with that.

Why are you so focused on being a woman??? Such a thing is simply not possible. It doesn't matter however it is framed on media; no one can make a woman out of a man just as no one can make an apple out of an orange. The most that can be done is an orange that strongly resembles an apple.

But really, there is no need for you to become a woman in the first place. Why can't you just learn to love yourself?

ZZZ is a nice game. Just try to enjoy that?

They only glamorize the positive aspects while completely ignoring the bad parts. At least when I think about what it would be like to be a man, I think about the pluses and minuses. I just find it funny how they criticize us so much for what we do, yet that's exactly what they want to be. It seems like pure jealousy.

>>82885115
Because being a man has brought me nothing but pain and anguish on such deep levels that they probably seeped into my soul and atoms
I never wanted to be a man, its not for me and I dont want to accept it. I only live with it because it is what it is, not because I like it
My skin burns and every breath I take is poison

>>82881658
Don't worry dude, every man who dressed like a woman looks ugly and retarded. This isn't cartoons - actual trannies are gross and there's no such thing as passing.

Would I like to have periods and behave like a soulless moron that watches reality TV instead of having real interests? No.
What makes you think you'd be you as a woman? Your sex drive would evaporate and your hormones and smaller brain constantly urge you toward inexplicable behavior and attention seeking.

>>82881070 (OP)
You should try men fashion, it feels like youre interest in fashion in general, but men are usually suppressed from dolling up.
It goes without saying that you'll score with women if youre good looking, i personally foam at well dressed guys, even the weird ones like goth boys

>>82881070 (OP)
Most men would rather be women at the end of the day. It is just impossible so most of us cope instead of becomes trans and commit sudoku.