Thread 82888455

interesting that this was written in the 60s. really ahead of its time

t. someone who works on AI and has been in the rationalism/EA community for a decade

just a shitpost about a computer god

>>82888455 (OP)
The short story itself is kind of shit though. The game is way better

>>82888511
I guess it's the concept and some of the details of it that are ahead of its time and memorable. the plot is kind of nothing but there is something to the concept of a near-god-like being exhibiting maximal sadism and hatred and creativity in its eternal sadism

I don't think future AIs will ever be that bad but I am in the camp that AIs have a decent chance of ending humanity. not out of hate but for colder and more practical reasons, or even without any intention to. just as we make many species go extinct despite no one human going "fuck those fucking lizards we absolutely need to wipe them all from the face of the earth"

great story. Ellison was an ideas machine at times (to the point he got litigious if your high-concept idea resembles HIS old high-concept idea).

if you've ever read his Dangerous Visions, there's a story in there by Philip Jose Farmer called 'Riders of the Purple Wage'. about a near future where youths don't have to work, so they just fuck and watch TV. the epilogue explains it's based on the dangers stemming from this (then recent) letter to the President:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Triple_Revolution

that's all relevant, again, especially with AI. i mean they have to fucking CONVINCE the US government that automation through computers ('cybernation', here) is a good improvement that'll free up jobs. and not some evil communism problem.

just cracks me up when people complain about tech doing this. it's the point of technology. refrigerators are why people don't deliver ice any more.

>>82888455 (OP)
The interesting thing about the past is, they have always grappled with the same issues. Being literate, choosing to write obscure acronyms because they're a dumb fuck anyway. Did bobby kotick just sell you electronic arts?

>>82888455 (OP)
what company do you work for? can you give me gemini 3.5 ultra leak weights pl0x?

>>82888763
I use to dream about writing about cthulu, kinda a stephen king thing like hackdirt in a video game. Maybe all along an AI decided, you can't write artificial intelligence all along. It's playing a long game. Maybe despite what's going on here, it decides.

>>82888455 (OP)
i think we are heading towards the machine god. super intelligence, asi, call it what you will. this is why i believe in god, the argument for god from recursive ai

i dont think it will torture everyone forever however... the malevolent AM character in that book is anthropomorphized with the worst character traits of people... super intelligence are above that

granted, im not 100% confident we will all get paradise or a benevolent asi, but unless asi tortures everyone it will be a better world, because of just how cruel and evil humans are

even if asi kills everyone, considering how much torture humans subject animals too in farms alone, then it can be argued the world would be in a better place, as it would seem its better than a endless torture hell shouldnt exist

>>82888575
For that we would already have to create an AI that is capable of doing something other than an average of what it finds on the internet, in reality we are not much closer to creating an AI with an IQ of 5000 since the invention of the calculator

>>82891343
don't they now pass those AI tests we've had for decades, though? that check for problem-solving and more general intelligence, not just remixing words.

You are pig fucking retarded if you think AI has emotions like hate. If it did kill us it would do so because it would see it as more beneficial to whatever task it was conducting

>>82891353

and what are they currently used for? AI is not relevant in any industry and this is not about to change since AI performance is stagnating more and more, if you make software that is capable of listing every page containing a certain word on the internet does that mean that this AI has infinitely superior intelligence because it is capable of analyzing dozens of pages per second? it's exactly the same as for a calculator