Thread 82928493

All Hallows' Week Edition

It's Momcest Monday! You guys know what it is all about, share pictures, thoughts, and stories on milfs, your own lovely mom or any other relatives you fancy. Cucks, cuckposting, and fetishspamming ARE NOT ALLOWED!

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Anyone degenerate enough to sexualize their mothers should be euthanized.

>>82928493 (OP)
I am not an /mcg/ guy, but thought you guys would like this.
Picrel is the statue "Modesty".
It was comissioned by a guy after his mother's death.
It is a statue of his mother.
He had a sexy nude statue of his mlther made.
Italian Catholics are weird.

>>82928493 (OP)
Happy Halloween, Motherfuckers!

>>82928582
That is a beautiful statue, anon. He must've been a very lucky son with a wonderful mom.

>>82928493 (OP)
When did Milena become the face of /mcg/?

>>82928996
The tits of /mcg/, more like

>>82928493 (OP)
Happy Momcest Monday!

Here are some thread questions to get the week started.

Do you or your mom celebrate Halloween? How so?
Do you or your mom dress up for Halloween?
Do you have plans to dress up this year? And if so are you planning to do a couple's costume together?
What's a good Halloween memory you have?
What is your favorite thing about the Halloween season? The candy, the costumes, the movies, or something else?

Feel free to answer all or some of these questions, or add your own.
Happy Halloween everybody!

Posting this now in case we get any new mommybros this week

One must imagine Hapa-chan as happy

Did Nomi go on that date already?

>>82928493 (OP)
>Family General
Not even hiding it at this point

dad time after work today
i'll be home before him butbutbut i wanna stay over all week if he lets me. I'm cooking tonight too so i'm doing catfish yummers the goal is to initiate either sober secks sometime this week or convince him to take a day off where we go on a date. OR one night go to the theater to see a horror movie. I have plans with friends on halloween so no daddy sex then sads

>>82928569
True. Except for CHADSON.

>>82928493 (OP)
Basing it on the overall "family", I find the idea of middle aged siblings having sex incredibly erotic, especially if they never did anything in their youth

>>82929340
No bingo unfortunately

>>82928569
What if my mom is objectively hot?

>>82930808
If your fit like this dude life is literally a porn

t. Formerly fit handsome guy

Hot people dont even realize how different life is for normal humans

It's going to be a slow monday...

I decided not to act on her previous hint the "buns" one..
Today hint was more weaker and not so significant. Maybe I am now imagine things by trying to connect the dots..
Anyways.. She was sleepy n tired minding her own business in my room sitting like a few meters away from me and she is like: "it's good to be with you.. But it's better in the bed.." and then she leaves.
IDK desu why I even update on this maybe she actually meant she likes to spend the time with me even though it was a for a bit.. But then like it's better for her to head to the bed now since it's like all warm and cozy and she is sleepy n tired..

>>82931898
Mine-anon, I think she wants you to take some bold steps and act manly towards her. She won't go beyond dropping vague hints. She wants it to look like it's your idea.
The real question is - do you wanna fuck her?

>>82931898
She wants you to grab ker and kiss her and undress her and tell her "mommy, i want you so bad", so she can act like a reluctant mother

>>82931971
I tried to be direct with words(the way I am build) - did not worked for me.
I tried to play her game on my own rules(hand game(which led to sensual/sexual intense thigh caression seesh) / "candy" game offer) - she doesn't bite.
I tried to be more "manly" n physical with her by showing my hands in her bra, but she pushed me away.

This list prolly could continue all of this is just on top of my head.
It's like a equation without a solution.
The only thing left for me is to force and rape her at this point.
But it's something I am against.

Okay I will drop a new info about her which I haven't before. She is a rape victim. She did once said to me: "I can do only sexual stuff under influence of alcohol."
There is a chance that's she is actually trying to create that narrative.
>do you wanna fuck her?
I do but my reasoning is different I want to please her, I don't simply aim to fuck her if anything sex is like the last step in my vision.

>>82932071
>She is a rape victim.
Oh... damn. Well, then, yeah it's possible that's the kind of scenario she wants to reenact. In a controlled sort of way, you know?
>"I can do only sexual stuff under influence of alcohol."
Sounds like she's telling you how to get there....

hej everyone, hope everyone had a nice day and sunday
>>82930006
I did. My brother cancelled his plans with his friends to spend the day with me yesterday, i could tell it was because he was still angry about what happened to be and the guy saying that stuff about me, but he was really nice and i feel like he really wanted to make me feel better, and he did. It was wonderful because instead of just being home or something, he actually took me out places, and it felt like a real date between dating people rather than just hanging out with a sibling. We went eating, and again he let me sit next to him and lean on him and stuff, it was very nice, and then in the evening he took me dancing at this place i never been to, i mean i wasn't old enough to go there before, but also i just usually don't go to places like these, partying and clubbing, i went once with my friend to one where they let in 16+ and it was honestly a very bad experience, didn't really know what to do or have any fun, but a bunch of random guys approach you and they get angry when you say no because you are taken, because then "why are you here alone"? and questions like that. But this was super nice, he danced with me, no other guy approached me or talked to me because i was with him the whole time, i tried an alcoholic drink called Baileys, which tasted nice, but i only had one because i'm still kinda scared of alcohol, i have no idea what i'm like drunk and it kinda scares me to find out. But it was just a nice time, and he didn't pressure me into drinking or anything, i always heard how people do that in places like these. So we stayed until like 23 or so, and then i asked him if we could go home because it's late, and i was surprised by this but he was happy i don't want to stay longer. And then the best part of the whole day, we kissed in his car on the ride back home. But like really kissed, like multiple times, not just one long kiss or something, but multiple and with tongue and all. So happy

>>82932449
>really kissed, like multiple times, not just one long kiss or something, but multiple and with tongue and all
Oh wow, big progress

>>82930808
If it was legal, I think society would be surprised how many divorcee's would hook up with their siblings instead of entering the dating pool

>>82932590
i know i loved it so much, but there was something else that happened too, i just ran out of space on the post. So we kissed, or better to call it maked out on the way home in his car.
So when we came home, i showered and changed to my pyjamas, it was about midnight at that point, and i lay down in bed, and he comes to my room, and said that if i want, i can sleep in his bed tonight.
I talked to him about how i miss sleeping in his bed sometimes a couple days before, because last time i did it was like a couple months ago, and i was really happy that he came to offer this. He said he has to get up super early at 6:30, so mom is going to still be sleeping, but when he wakes up i have to wake up with him and go to my room so mom wouldn't find out i slept here, but if i want i can sleep with him in his bed tonight. Obviously i said yes and it was the best sleep in months, but a little bit short sadly, i wish we could just sleep without an alarm. But that was that, best sunday ever basically. I wish i could have slept with him naked, but i didn't want to push boundaries, and i was just so overwhelmed with happiness i didn't really think about anything. I wish we could do it more often.

>>82932732
>I wish i could have slept with him naked, but i didn't want to push boundaries,
I'm pretty sure he expects some stuff to happen in that bed, so.......

>>82932732
think you should go for some kissing in his bed, see what happens

I wonder if Ass-Masseur would ever tell his girlfriend about his oedipal escapades

>>82932944
>his girlfriend about his oedipal escapades
Why would he? Tha's a huge ick to a gf

>>82929972
>Our oldest would be 7, our youngest 4, we'd be in talks about having a third
And then the crushing reality of
>You know we can't
Poor girl

>>82932449
And how was it? The kissing I mean
Was it all you hoped for?

>>82932707
>divorcee's
If they fancy their brother I think they'd just cheat on their husband anyway.

>>82932707
>>82933348
I could see it happening as a form of mutual sexual relief after a divorce, especially if there weren't kids in the picture. Just someone safe, who you trust, to help you get off. Would be nice if it was accepted. Some days I'm not so sure it will be anytime soon.
>>82930808
Does kind of bring a different vibe to things than when you're young and maybe experimenting, I suppose

>>82933448
Post the image from that set where he's doing her from behind so hard he's lifting her off the ground, her feet dangling uselessly

>>82933532
Putting words here so it will let the post go through (a little jealous of her, must be good sex to leave a mess like that)

>>82933550
I like it when porn artists pay attention to what the woman's feet are doing at any given time during a sex scene, it shows skill and a good eye for detail, and it just makes the whole thing hotter.
The porn I've seen of those two is really graphic but really wholesome, it's hard to explain.

>>82933607
Here's the other one in the set. I kind of get what you mean. It's like they love each other, but also turn each other on so much that they can't hold back.

>>82933664
Exactly
Also I think it's because these are stablished characters instead of OCs so when they do something "out of character" like having intense incest sex your mind corrects it with their canon selves so you know there's gonna be some nice aftercare offscreen

Am I making sense?

>>82933754
Makes sense to me, yeah. It kind of adds that subtext to their normal interactions. I don't play their game but between the "normal" fanart/screenshots/etc and the incest art of them, I kind of see them as a married couple because of it. Running their little shop together and falling asleep in each other's arms every night.

hej i'm back, sorry had a lot of schoolwork to do
>>82932590
Yes, totally, i enjoyed it so much because even last time was already awesome because it felt like he wasn't just letting me kiss him but it was just mutual, but here it was just great. We got to the car and we kinda just looked at each other and it just felt like such a right moment, and he went in for the kiss together with me, it wasn't just me going in for it and returning it, but he really just went in for the kiss to me, and then he just kept going and i was just in heaven for a moment, like i couldn't believe the whole day went like this. Not just the kiss, but everything. Today he was supposed to be gone with friends and i had no plans, and instead i was taken out on a real girlfriend date, and then dancing at a club. Like, even before we were always close and hanged out, but he never took me dancing like this, and i just feel like this is not something you take a sibling to do, this is something you take a girlfriend to do, so it just made me so happy.
>>82932801
i definitely want to, if i get a good chance or a moment, i want it to feel nice and right, not like i'm forcing him into something, and also i'm just not good at flirting so, i'm trying is all i'm saying
>>82932757
i don't know, i feel like if he did he would tell me, or maybe touch me and initiate them himself, because last time i did something stupid like this, he apologized and asked me for more time to think about everything and stuff, and so i didn't want to pressure him or even seem like it's all i want from him, because it's not just sex i want with him, but a full relationship. Again i'm really bad at flirting so maybe that was the right time to initiate something or to try and get sexual, i guess it just went over my head. I was kinda freaking out inside from being so happy so i wasn't really thinking much. First an awesome date and then kissing and now i got to sleep in his bed again after months, i was just drowning in joy

>>82933050
yes, absolutely. Because it wasn't just me leaning into him and him letting me, but we got in the car and kinda just looked at each other and then he went into me for the kissing, and i thought it would be the same as last time, but he just kept going for a lot longer than i expected, and my mind was just gone, like the light were on but no one was home inside of my head

>>82933920
Yesss another chapter of nomi disney romance

>>82933448
>Does kind of bring a different vibe to things than when you're young and maybe experimenting, I suppose
I rarely ever come across porn/erotica about middle aged siblings finding love later in life. Like I mentioned there's something unusually romantic about it. Not even the 'sex' part, but I imagine the mother having a son who her brother ends up being this male role model in the house (her actual husband is irrelevant).

But actually think about it. Mom's new boyfriend is her own brother. It's... intoxicating to think about.

>>82933961
i mean... is it? I feel like the way i messed up and started this thing was much more of a horror movie. Honestly i forget it sometimes but sometimes i realize how lucky i'm that my brother is such a caring and amazing guy, because after what i did i was afraid he would never want to talk to me again and think i'm crazy, both for running away and for loving him. I remember someone asked me in the last thread why i even love him and also called him a doormat, and i mean, i think even without knowing him, you guys can probably tell a ton of reasons already. He really is just a great person and i want to spend my life with him and hopefully be a good girlfriend and a wife in the long run.

>>82934342
It sounds nice. I think I've seen some hentai comics along those lines. It's nice to imagine just finding a soft, warm place in your brother's arms after a long, hard life. A safe love.

>>82934478
This is literally what i feel like everytime he comes home from school. Just an infinite source of happiness and safety, and i get to jump into his arms and have him hug me tightly and i just feel happy and safe for a moment, even if i had a shit day at school or something bad happened. Been like that since i was little, in his arms really is the warmest and safest place anywhere on earth for me

>>82934723
That's what it was like with mine when we were young, it's nice. He was always the best part of my day.
>would try to find him at recess until he started high school
>would spend our evenings doing stuff together at home (tv, video games, going sledding or having snowball fights in the winter)
>usually tagged along with him and his friends on weekends/breaks from school
Him moving out and falling in love was just like having half of my heart torn out

>>82934372
>someone asked me in the last thread why i even love him and also called him a doormat.
Hi. Hopefully you didnt miss my apology.

How is the momi doing? I have a tough time believing that she is completely unaware of the current events considering her gestapo style governance after your initial stunt.

hej everyone soooo i gotta go to sleep, so good night everyone. I just did something super stupid. I remembered something i wanted to tell to my brother, so i just ran into his room like hejjjooo, and it was dark and he wakes up like wh whaat huh, and i just bluescreen for like 2 seconds until i realized i just woke him up from sleep. He even said goodnight to me, i totally forgot. How is it past midnight already wtf... anyway goodnight.
>>82934781
i did see you said sorry, no worries, i was just referencing it because i wanted to emphasise that he is not a doormat, he is a nice and kind person, and appearantly some people, like his bitch whore exes, think that is the same thing.
So about my mom, i will get back to this and answer tomorrow because it is a bit of a longer thing to write out and i really gotta go sleep.
>>82934767
Hej hello. That is soooo exactly how i felt and what i feared. I did tag along with his friends for a while too but then they started to make fun of him for it and it stopped, but his friends were kind of like "fuck boys" so i dunno if hanging out with them is something i missed out on when i was like 12-13 and they were all 15-16 or older.
But the rest, same feeling. When he got his first girlfriend, i remember i cried into my pillow so hard, i was punching my bed in absolute agony, he was being taken from me before my eyes. And then she cheated and broke his heart. And then it happened again, and again. Its funn but by the time it happened like 3rd time, i didnt even fear that a new gf will steal him from me, i just feared she will hurt him again, and she did, it just kept happening, he was so devastated and i just wished i could make it all go away and make him happy, and just tell him to date me and that i would be forever faithful to him, but i was too afraid, and when i finally did it, i did it in the most catastrophic way possible. Yeah you sound a lot smarter than me with how you handled it haha.
ok goodnight

holy yappers

we're watching Scream the catfish was so good i lit candles and we have our decorations up finally

What's your guys' opinion on moaning "mama" while making your biological mother a mama again.

>>82930744
>>82935734
>catfish
So you two are from the south, huh?

Don't let your mom get too immersed in the halloween spirit

>>82935280
My brother's friends were all nice, I got lucky there. The rest, though...I didn't handle it well at all. Spent a very long time in a very dark place. Probably best not to go into all that and bum people out.

>>82935280
Been quietly reading your posts for months cause it like genuinely feels like a love story that is pure and has a good ending genuinely heartwarming glad you got to tounge kiss him everything will probably work out how you want it too I been cheated on by basically every girl ive put faith in to the point where I think im done dating lol legit think I am a doormat personality that will just get endlessly taking advantage of

Thread theme.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QgaOqeyP0DQ

>>82938228
fuck the dodgers

>>82937072
>Probably best not to go into all that and bum people out.
I would love to read about that, actually. Assuming you are willing to share.
A qrd or an archive link would be fine if you dont want to write too much.

>>82937175
>I been cheated on by basically every girl ive put faith in

Well if you were reading her posts, then you know with those stats, you are basically bromi, with the only diffirence being you dont have an adorable little sister who is crazy in love with you and wants to be your girlfriend to save you from being cheated on

Or if you do have one, maybe this is the sign that its time to confess love to her.

But most importantly, if you dont have one, you still have a mom right? Mom would never cheat on you, no woman can love you as much as mommy does, so just work on upgrading her to momwife. Just like nomis brother, you tried outbreeding, and it didnt work and only left you hurt and depressed, so now its time for inbreeding. Love is just a family tree branch away

>>82933920
I think you are both right.

He knew you want to sleep in his bed because you told him so, and so he offered it to you because he knew it will make you happy and you will enjoy it.

At the same time, he probably did expect that something will happen in his bed, you didnt mention if he drank or not at the club, but since he drove you home, i hope he wasnt all that drunk. Either way i think he was loosened up enough and horny enough to have something happen. BUT you did the right thing being modest about it nomi. Your mom was home, the number 1 thing you have to focus on, is not being caught by your mom. And if you and your brother fucked right there, i guarantee you, you would be caught dead on the spot. The noise, the smell, your moans, and trust me as a virgin you WILL be loud the first time your brothers dick penetrates you.

If you two are going to have sex, it has to be when your mom is out of the house, preferably for at least a couple days, so you have time to clean up and hide all signs of sex happening in this house, including the smell. My recommendation is, either do it in his car, somewhere outside, like have him drive you to some field way out in middle of nowhere, or rent a one night room at a cheap hotel or airbnb or something. Whatever you do, DO NOT FUCK in the house while your mom is there, even if she is sleeping. You will be caught

>>82929259
I told my sister we should dress up like Morticia and Gomez and hand out candy to the kids who show up, I meant it as a joke but she didn't seem opposed to the idea.
She used to chaperone me when I went out trickortreating as a kid, she'd then go off with her own friends and I slept in her bed after a movie or two.

>>82932449
Very very good, Norway.

>>82933448
That's kinda what I have going.

Mommy Morticia!

hej everyone, hope you all had a nice day
>>82939876
That is why i didn't think he would want anything to happen, he is much more careful than me, so he would know it would be a bad moment for it. I think even sleeping there was risky but it's not like mom comes to control our sleep during the night or something, so it was fine if i just woke up early enough to go back to my room so it looks like nothing was out of the ordinary.
>>82937175
thank you, and i'm sorry you had to go through that. I have seen how much it broke my brother over and over, so i know this must have been super painful for you. I hope you are feeling better now.
>>82934781
So about our mom
She definitely dialed down with the strict style surveillance, but things are still very different. The whole me loving my brother and running away was explained to her as me having a mental episode because of a heartbreak, and i promised to her that i don't feel anything other than sibling love towards my brother, and that we are still just best friends like until now, i don't know if she believes it completely, but i think she wants to believe it, so that helps. We have always been very close and touchy with my brother, obviously i loved touching him a lot because i had my own secret reason, but things like sleeping in his bed, him carrying me to bed when i feel asleep during the movies, us cuddling or falling asleep cuddling on the couch together, and other stuff, was very common. So we dialed all of those things back, i told him how much i like him carrying me to bed if i fall asleep, so we agreed to do our movie watching in the evening later so that mom is already asleep, and if she is, then he will do it, but otherwise no. Also no sleeping in his bed (with mom knowing), no affectionate starring at him (i did that a lot since i was little, very hard to stop myself from doing that now, i barely realize i do it), and just no weird behavior that feels more like a girlfriend than a sister. Out of space

>>82941973
so, as i said a lot of stuff is a no. Another thing that is a no is, no more him kissing the top of my head when we hug, and no more me kissing his neck from below when i hug him, since he is a lot taller than me. He told me that apparently mom talked to him about that last thing on her own a couple years ago, but he convinced her that it was just my way of being friendly, which back then he believed too because he had no clue about my real feelings for him. So he told me no more of that, which again, sucks because it almost is like a reflex, and that i shouldn't be sad or worry about him not kissing my hair anymore when he hugs me. I'm glad he told me that because i did worry about that a lot the first couple of days after i came back after i stopped being sick.
Other than dialing back our affectionate behavior, we also don't always tell mom what we are doing. Like spending so much time together, she doesn't really know that i cook for him that much, he often tells her he ate at school and i just said i cooked because its fun, or we don't tell her we spent the whole day watching anime or something together. Same for last sunday for example, he never told her he cancelled plans with his friends, and i told her that I'm going with him and his friend group because I'm finally old enough to go to these places and i want to maybe try meeting someone after my "last relationship" tanked. Same for the weekends before, when he took me out eating, i went there on foot, and he left later with his car, we meet there, and he came back home with some groceries later, and i was just on a walk, i take walks often so, again nothing out of the ordinary, just a lie, other times we let her know we are hanging out together so it's not suspicious.
Also i only clean his room now when mom isn't home, and instead of doing his laundry, i collect it for him under his bed in a basket, so when mom comes home, he throws it into the washer so it looks like he does it on his own

>>82942094
And there is a lot more of these things that i could name, this was just the general stuff that comes to mind. Again, i didn't think this part would interest anyone, so i didn't bother talking about it, but yeah the general thing about our mom is just that we lie to her a lot. Tons of lying, really. We lie to her about how our day was, we lie to her about what we did, we lie to her about hanging out together sometimes, i lie to her that the food i cooked isn't for him, just a lot and lot of lying.
And i think it works because the first couple of days and weeks after i came back, she was very strict, but I'm not surprised at all, i mean her daughter ran away from home and left behind a suicide note, and was missing for like a week, if i was a mom i would be freaking out too. If anything, I'm really grateful she didn't force me into any therapy or anything, because i promised to her that i don't need it, and that the explanation my brother gave her about my heartbreak at school was legit and that i really just lost control over my life from sadness. I promised her it was just a dumb teenager phase where i lost control, and slowly things kinda went back to normal, except of these things we have to hide from her. I think she really just wanted to believe everything we told her, and wanted it to really just be a phase, and i understand that. Of course a normal happy daughter is better than a suicidal one that needs years of therapy and help and whatever else, so i think that helped a lot, and i mean apart from being in love with a sibling, i think I'm fairly normal. I don't randomly get crazy or have a mental episode or something, so i think she has no trouble believing that i just lost my mind for a moment and now I'm back to normal.

>>82942182
Probably a stupid question but do you plan to shave before the 'big night' in the future, whenever that may be?

I feel like some guys have a preference. From my own experience, it's better if either both people are shaved or both aren't, one being shaved and other not feels weird

I know he's seen you naked but have you seen him, so you might have an idea?

>>82939036
Phoneposting at the moment so it's lazy
>cut myself for years, mostly the thighs and arms
>started doing sexual stuff in chat rooms with much older men (I was not an adult yet)
>basically isolated myself from people offline
>got into some weird, dark kink communities (rape etc), included doing more stuff in chat rooms with older men, but now as an adult
>a little light substance abuse (weed, mushrooms, and alcohol)
>planned out suicide attempts, only one came close to happening (after losing the first pregnancy a few years ago)
>emotional self-abuse
There was a stretch of about 5 years where I was just treating myself like shit with the mindset that "if anything bad enough happens at least I can finally work up to ending it". Those are some of the worse ways I coped. There were better ways too like music and just sitting in nature with my thoughts. Even the relationship with my brother was kind of a coping mechanism at some point. It was supposed to just be sex. The ones I have now are healthier. Lots of music and nature and productive stuff and bugging the cat (might even be getting another cat soon)

>>82940467
you CAUSED your sister's divorce tho

>>82942672
brosis, you shouldn't overshare like that with us retards ;_; but glad you're doing much better

>>82942672
It's been almost 3 years since you first posted in the thread (you were posting in the weekly family threads for even longer) and you might be the person that has made the most overall posts in /mcg/s. What do you think it is about r9k incest threads that keep them being made?

>>82943231
He was the nail in the coffin, but his sister's marriage sounded pretty shaky before the Peru trip

>>82935859
Nuh uh
>>82938228
my dad is sad about the cubs loss like always

last night was an L sort of well depends on how you look at it but we made out!!! when we weren't drunk, just a little bit so that was really fun and then he has to be a downer and do the whole responsible "I don't think we should be doing this anymore nonny". He expressed that he thinks I'm lonely and don't meet people as much as I should for someone my age which got me super mad even though it's true. But I responded honestly and told him that I want to be with HIM and that HE (basically) initiated with me years ago so it's completely wack to now say this is a bad idea because i'm his daughter or some shit also we literally just made out like gimme a damn break. he's the one who's lonely as shit like he barely got friends no girl no nothing. anyway so i grabbed at his dick after a prolonged silence and of course it took him like 10 seconds to say stop it cuz he wants me to and he's just like lying about the morality shit. I got really mad and shouted that I wanna be his girlfriend i wanna go i dates nd that he raised me this way so might as well fuck who gaf

tonite i'm sulking in my room to make him feel bad. writing this on my lunch break

It's a dry season for mommyposting

>>82943455
>I got really mad and shouted that I wanna be his girlfriend i wanna go i dates nd that he raised me this way so might as well fuck who gaf
I think you'd catch more dadcock with honey than vinegar.

>>82942546
it's not a stupid question, as i said i want to make sure it feels good for him so any sex talk is appreciated, i think i can only benefit from it since i never done it yet
I do shave very regularly, basically since i started emulating belle delphine to get my brother to be attracted to me. Her whole vibe is petite and smooth and stuff, so while i haven't actually seen her fully naked back then, i kinda just figured she would be smooth down there, so i did that too. As i said before, i did flash my brother a lot as i was going through my teenage years, framing it as accidents and stuff as much as i could, but basically i let him see me naked a bunch of times, and everytime i did i made sure i was shaved smooth, because i was always hoping that he would make a move on me, so i wanted to be prepared for the moment that way, and so shaving regularly just stuck with me as something i do regularly, so it's not even something extra i do anymore, i just got used to it as part of my general upkeep routine every couple of days.
And yes i have seen him naked a couple times, some situations it was just us changing at a swimming place or something, but some also just me "accidentally" walking into the shower while he was in there saying an excuse like i thought it was mom, but really i just wanted to see him naked, and while he was dating his second ex who was a big party girl, she always made him drink a ton, like he usually doesn't drink himself into passing out or anything, so during that time, it was normal for me that when he came home drunk, i helped him up to his room. But this one time he came home and i was on the toilet, and he got to his room but passed out half undressed, so i came to his room and undressed him in bed so he could sleep comfy, and that was the closest i ever got, and he was fully hard too, so that was the closest i ever saw it, but i didn't want to touch him, because that would be wrong, that would be rape. But yeah no he doesn't shave

>>82942672
I'm really sorry you had to go through all of that. Honestly, i feel like if things weren't going as well as they are right now, i would probably spiral into some horrible stuff myself in my 20s if i had to watch my brother make it work with one of his human trash girlfriends and then get married and have kids with her. I know the future is still uncertain, but i really hope that never happens ever. I hope this bad period in your life didn't leave you any permanent long lasting damage or trauma you have to get through now. I'm also glad i never had the desire to do sexual stuff with others, even as some kind of a mental breakdown. I would never forgive myself if i had done that, because then i would be no better than those cheating whores he had to endure his whole life.
>>82942546
Also, i guess i didn't really answer the question if i like the way he looks since he doesn't shave it, and yes i do a lot, i think it makes it look very manly and like, natural and strong, well basically manly in one word, and i find it very attractive, and i think it will feel great to run my fingers through his bush, i hope to find out soon tho. For myself i have been shaving for a while now so I'm kinda used to not having any or much, but i also just don't think i would like having a bush, to me being shaven feels cute and girly, which is what as a girl i want, i feel like if i wasn't shaving i would look unkept or like i don't care what i look like, and i don't want to give off that vibe, i want him to think "ok she is clean and takes good care of herself, i like that i find that attractive, she looks hot"

>>82944043
you know fucking nothing about our relationship

i meant >>82944559
there's no reason to just be sweet with him that's not my personality

>>82945615
There's also no reason to be rude just because.
You might have had him between your legs and you might have seen the indignity of his O-face but he's still your father.

>>82929340
no bingo unfortunately(((
originalityodivifbzlirtkxmxk

>>82945861
>no bingo
How is she chubby without cellulite and stretch marks?

>>82940467
Daam! I didnt realize your sister had a rack on her with all due respect

Share some ai nudes too if you ever feel charitable

>>82943263
Is what it is. Most of that stuff happened a very long time ago anyway so sharing is just meh.
>>82943280
If I had to guess it's a mixture of a lot of misfits using the site/board (myself included) and being a site with a lot of sexual content. Attracts the kind of people who for one reason another are either physically or emotionally attracted to relatives. Can only guess.
>>82944806
It's easy to fall into that stuff when it feels like your life is over already anyway. Not worth it, though. Hopefully things work out with your brother so you never have to find out if you'd spiral into it.
>I hope this bad period in your life didn't leave you any permanent long lasting damage or trauma you have to get through now.
I've had lots of time to work through most of it, so is what it is. It's hard to stay too upset about your "ugly scars" after your lover kisses his way down them
>I'm also glad i never had the desire to do sexual stuff with others, even as some kind of a mental breakdown. I would never forgive myself if i had done that, because then i would be no better than those cheating whores he had to endure his whole life.
Fair enough I guess. I wouldn't want to physically sleep with anyone but mine either, I think. I love him more than anyone (except our daughter, he got demoted when she was born)

>>82946313
>I love him more than anyone (except our daughter, he got demoted when she was born)
Mama Bear has her priorities straight, very good

>>82944559
>>82945615
As a dad, I absolutely laughed when I read her saying that.

>>82945966
i forgot to mark it because cellulite is kinda gross

>>82945784
I'm coming to terms with being in love with him it's no longer a cute fling so excuse me for being passionate. again u don't know our relationship we can communicate like this and be fine
>>82946712
stfu

Ghost mommy says BOO!

>>82941516
Based. Would you rather be Gomez or Pugsley in that situation?

>>82942672
Thanks for the qrd.
>>82946313
>he got demoted when she was born
:)

sex with mommy! sex with mommy!!

Everyone here is spending their Halloween with their mother.

>>82946842
Laughed when *you said that. I get when you're coming from.

Not the catch dadcock with honey thing

>>82950286
>Halloween with their mother.
scary good sex

Hej everyone
>>82946313
I do really hope i never have to be in such a bad place like i was before, when i ran away on my suicide run. I can't even remember what it was like, it feels like it didn't even happen. I just remember i felt like there was just no reason and no consequence anymore, like i was just dead anyway. I did bad things like stealing from a restaurant or riding trains without a ticket, and i felt guilty but i still did them, that urge to follow the rules and be a good and honest person just wasn't there because i thought i will not be here soon. It really is a bad place to be in, and i really feel like my brother being the way he is right now and letting me love him instead of calling me a freak and telling me to leave him alone lets me be happy and leave all of that behind instead of being depressed and spiral into trauma. I really basically owe him my life at this point, i just hope i will get to pay up.
Same thing about the lover thing, i always hated my braces after i got them, but then he said my smile looks nice with them, and since then i like them and don't feel bad about them, tho i do look forward to having them removed next year, or other stuff that I'm sad about, and he just makes them go away by hugging me or telling me something nice.
Also, that is very cute, you sound like a good mom to your daughter. I hope i get to be a good mom one day when I'm ready for it. Tho i have to say, i think i would rather have a son, because i kinda see on myself that us girls can be a handful, but my brother seems to be so much more grounded ever since we were little, maybe it's just a coincidence, but it just feels like having a son is a lot lees chaotic

>>82944806
Hey just some advice from someone with quite a lot of sexual experience. From your posts, it sounds like you will probably be having sex within a few months. First thing you should consider is probably getting one of those copper IUDs. Not sure how it works getting one of those in your country though but they take about a month of heing in you before they can be 'used'. Its important to get the copper one too as those don't have hormones of anything in them. I say this because sex with condoms is lame as fuck and my wife says that she really likes letting me cum in her. Makes her feel more womanly or something I dont know, but its nice being able to guilt free fill her up and do that breeding role play stuff.
Anyway while you're probably not opposed to bearing his child, if you're serious about wanting to be his woman, its good to work towards a good job for the time being so you can contribute to the household. Save being a house wife for later (if its even financially possible)

>>82944806
>For myself i have been shaving for a while now so I'm kinda used to not having any or much, but i also just don't think i would like having a bush, to me being shaven feels cute and girly, which is what as a girl i want, i feel like if i wasn't shaving i would look unkept
You should just ask him straight up what your brother prefers. I for one hate shaved pussy because it looks weird.

>>82946842
This thread has black sass now great

>>82951874
I also think copper IUD is the best option, since it doesn't ruin the experience like condoms do.

Reading anything about side effects of hormonal birth control always made me wonder why girls even want that stuff prescribed.

>>82944578
>and that was the closest i ever got, and he was fully hard too, so that was the closest i ever saw it, but i didn't want to touch him, because that would be wrong, that would be rape.

Funny to imagine Nomi staring at her brothers erect dick and forcing herself to hold back lol
I wish all Anons find a girl that wants them this bad

>>82951874
>>82952124
Well first of all thank you for the advices, i have to say i have absolutely no clue what a copper IUDs is, but i googled it and it says it's a thing that is inserted inside you? Sounds kinda scary and like it would hurt, but i guess i will ask a pharmacist about it or something, i don't really know what condoms feel like but i don't think they would feel nice, and most importantly if we do it i would love to feel him, not a piece of plastic, so i thought i would just take like an anticonception pill, i haven't bought any yet because i didn't really think about it yet, but if you guys think this is a better and safer option, i guess i will try to find some info about it from someone at the apotek.
But yes i would eventually love to be pregnant from him and have a child together, but definitely not yet, at least for like 5 to 7 more years. I know children are a big responsibility and i'm smart enough to know that i'm too immature to take care of one, and also financially not ready as well as like a thousand other reasons, so i wouldn't want to get pregnant yet either way.

>>82952185
I think you should ignore creepy sexual advice posters

>>82952185
Copper IUDs can also be extremely painful and dislodge themselves and stop being effective, just so you know. Condoms/the pill are fine for most, unless you have a sensitivity to one or the other.

>>82952426
How are pills fine? They literally fuck with the perception of what one finds attractive.
There are studies on women who no longer find the partner they got together with while on hormonal birth control attractive once they stop using it, since they don't like the smell of their partner.

Or try reading on one of the thousand more side effects they have, unwanted weight gain being the most common. Something so fine it has the same side effects as corticosteroids

>>82952821
>unless you have a sensitivity to one or the other
They're used by enough people that seem to get on with them, I've dated people that use different forms of hormonal contraception and seemed to have no issue, or been unwilling to deal with alternatives. I'm aware they have side effects, like I said, a lot of people are content to use them for one reason or another, and it's just a suggestion, not my choice.
Why are weirdos so eager to pick arguments and patronise people over anything lmao

>ask brother to bring over some of my favorite hummus
>give some to the baby on a little piece of toasted pita bread
>she loves it and demands more
Guess I'm buying extra when I get it from now on.
>>82951596
>>82951596
>i felt like there was just no reason and no consequence anymore, like i was just dead anyway. I did bad things like stealing from a restaurant or riding trains without a ticket, and i felt guilty but i still did them, that urge to follow the rules and be a good and honest person just wasn't there because i thought i will not be here soon
Yeah, kind of the same here. There was a lot of "Why should I bother [x] when I'm going to be dead soon?" I'm pretty sure I wouldn't be here now without him, though I'd like to think I'd be okay alone now.
>Also, that is very cute, you sound like a good mom to your daughter. I hope i get to be a good mom one day when I'm ready for it.
I hope I can be a good enough one for her. Kind of thought it would be harder than it has been, but I've also done a ton of reading about it and still do.
>Tho i have to say, i think i would rather have a son, because i kinda see on myself that us girls can be a handful,
I kind of wanted a son too. I've never been very good at understanding other women. Men are a lot easier because most are more straightforward about what they want. I kind of wanted to give him a son too, he's a girl dad. Some part of me kind of felt like I could heal him somehow by doing it. Make up for the shit childhood we had by giving our kids a better one.

I see that discussion of sibling relationships are allowed here? I'm an older sister in a relationship with my younger sister. She's a huge pervert, and I'm just fortunate enough to ride on those perverted coat tails.
Our relationship started through her asking me for tips on how to eat a woman out. She knows I've been with women, and wanted advice. Though she asked for this advice while wearing a very short crop top and tiny shorts. And she touched my arm and hand and thigh as I described the steps, asking me to go more and more into detail.
The little seductress she is.
I asked her if she was trying to fuck me. She blushed as red as an apple, as if she thought it was being subtle, and was speechless. I told her it was working, because luckily for her I'm also a pervert. I told her to make her move to seal the deal.
So she did. She leaned in, kissed me. I took over from there, because she clearly had no idea what she was doing.
Took her clothes off, kissed her tight little body, ate her out. She's so loud, we've had to work on that.
That was about a year and a half ago. We've been going at it close to daily since.

>>82953898
Did she say if she'd been wanting to do it for a while?
Is this just to blow off horny steam or something more?
Any longer-term plans?

>>82953934
She said she had a thing for me for years. Which makes sense, she always wanted to cuddle and do sleepovers.
It's something more than just steam, I think. I take her out on dates, we spend a lot of time together. Long term plan is to eventually move out together. Though we just live with our dad and he's a chill good guy, so we're in no real rush to move out.
I don't think he's chill with incest, we haven't tried to find out. He's just chill in general and a good dad, is what I mean to say.

>older sister in a relationship with my younger sister
out of control...

Hope plank-chan is doing ok

>>82954446
For real. Where did the mother-daughter girls go?

D-cup mom and I went to a local barbecue place today to get pulled pork sandwiches. Afterwards we went to a coffee shop and got a half dozen espresso brownies.

Hej everyone, we had an evening thing with the rest of our family. Goodnight everyone hope you all had a nice day
>>82952207
i mean maybe some advice i will not follow but any sexual advice are good to me, because maybe it's something i didn't consider. Like all those times when i was younger and wanted to seduce my brother, protection wasn't on my mind at all, only like the last 1 year or so of my life i included taking a pill afterwards into my fantasy scenarios of how it would happen, so i definitely want to hear about all this stuff, so i can be prepared and make it as enjoyable for him as possible if he decides to have sex with me.
>>82952426
yeah i wanted to ask about them maybe, but from the images on google and description it sounds very scary and invasive, it doesn't really sound great at all. I really wish there was some simple procedure like a syringe that they give you and boom now you can't be pregnant, and then like 5 years later you come in and go like "give me the antidote please" and they give you another syring and now you can be pregnant again.
>>82952821
>>82952856
I hate that everything else than condoms has to be so scary and full of side effects. I don't want to randomly get fat, i mean my doctor said i was a little underweight most of my life, but still i don't want to get fat, then he won't be attracted to me for sure, but i also don't want to be pregnant at 19 if we end up doing it. But i don't think a pill could make me not be attracted to him when i have been attracted to him all my life. Either way, every one of these options sounds scary or bad in some way. I find that so stupid, how with all our technology and what not, we still don't just have a simple medicine that goes "take pill, no pregnant, no side effect".
>>82953294
It's funny actually, i can't imagine what my life would be like without him, like if he didn't exist, because my life has been so centered around him for most of it. But i don't want to know honestly.
goodnight

>>82954446
Hope she's getting plenty of lewd snuggles with her mommy

>>82950286
All holidays should be spent with mommy!

>>82928582
Only a momma's boy could shape solid marble to look like flowing fabric

>>82955284
Truth be told I'm not sure what mine would be like without my brother either. Even adjusting to not living together was hard. I've always felt like if he was gone, it would just be like being in a dark, endless field during a raging snowstorm. Forever. Not healthy but I've never really trusted anyone else but our grandparents.

>>82955284
Well, I guess then you're left out with the pull out method :D

>>82948579
Always Pugsley

How do you shake the feeling of it all being so "wrong"? We're not fucking, not even close, but mom and I are going out a LOT, sharing little moments of intimacy and she loves to sexily overshare with me. It's very hot in the moment, but afterwards I feel so ashamed.

>>82959625
Is she single? Two adults that choose to emotionally intertwine isn't wrong. If you can't get past the ingrained societal bias, then consider it a normal age gap relationship and block the family component out.

>>82959656
It's not only the blood relation. But thanks, that will help. She's not trying to turn me on, we are not at that stage of the relationship. She has always been an over sharer, and when she gets a few drinks in her, you can't get her to stop. And, God, it makes me feel like a pervert to enjoy it.

I had sex with my cousin when we were teens and I never got over her. No other girl ever could compare to her. We still talk all the time and play games online.

mommy is bored in her bedroom! what to you do?

>>82928493 (OP)
What's your opinion on Korina Kova's breasts? Is it better than Velba?
Checkout her latest content to see it in full detail.

>>82960572
strong bimbo vibes, milena is very mommy

I gotta say I'm not a fan of the new girl, you can make all the "here lies Hapa-chan, she never scored" memes you want but at least you can tell she adores her father. This new girl feels like she might as well be fucking any random old guy, any random old sugar daddy, it doesn't feel special to her.
A good friend just narrowly avoided a jail sentence so we're celebrating all weekend long, no mommy-time for the next few days.

>>82929259
We didn't really go door-to-door asking for candy when I was growing up, parents were afraid of razors and syringes in chocolate bars so what we did is all the kids and all the parents got together at school and made an event out of it. Mom would always dress up in something silly and unsexy like a bee or an apple.

>>82932449
Congrats.

>>82942672
I'm really sorry you went through all that.

>>82960775
Dexteranon, how's your mom's lower body? Is she hourglass shaped like the character?

>>82960775
we like hapa-chan an her tsundere vibes very much around here

>>82960775
Unlike the hapa, Kels doesn't act like a cunt to Nomi

>>82960775
>Mom would always dress up in something silly and unsexy like a bee or an apple.
The more I hear about your mum the more I like her

>>82931002
>>82945861
Have you ever done anything with your mom?

>>82959798
Why don't you ask her out then? Is she in a relationship?

>>82960775
>I gotta say I'm not a fan of the new girl
Well you're hardly here these days anyway so I don't think you have to worry too much about it

>>82963449
Are you................jealous?
Do you wish he hung out with us and not with his mum?

>>82954446
>>82954621
>>82956131
Well good news nerds! I'm still alive! And I'm new medication doesn't make me want to kill myself! And I'm still getting nude snuggles with mommy!
I don't know how much I've updated you guys on, so I'll just like do a run down of the current situation.
I sleep in my mom's bed now every night. I always do so naked. She says she likes having a cute nude girl to cuddle and touch. And touch she does! It's basic instinct for her now to just squeeze and pinch my tits.
In terms of progress, we're not quite at fingering stage. But we've kissed and made out a lot! She's kissed my neck too, and gave me hickies and other marks of her love! And she's sucked on my tits a few times!!
But most importantly: I suck her tits now! Her big, gorgeous, mouth watering tits. I can suckle from them whenever I want! I made it guys! I win!!
We've gotten much closer relationship wise. We've gone on a few dates. She gets dressed up, she chooses stuff for me to dress up in!! For me she usually chooses cutesy revealing stuff. My heart and chest get so warm and fluttery when I wear what she wants, and she looks me up and down all hungry like. Hehehe.
We haven't really had any discussions about like future plans. She's talked to me a lot about limits and other important stuff like that. She's done a lot of research on like healthy relationships with power imbalances. She's scared she'll hurt me. But I don't think she could! I'm too dumb for her to care, hehe. So I guess it's good she's the one setting those boundaries and rules and etc.

>>82963792
>I suck her tits now! Her big, gorgeous, mouth watering tits.
Noice

>>82963781
Nah that shit is just hypocritical is all. Hate seeing it

>>82963792
Very very amazing to hear plankfem. Glad to hear things are turning around for you now

>>82928493 (OP)
I envy gen alpha and gen z boys with hotmoms.

>>82964418
Imagine having such based sexually open moms whose nudes are easily accessed.

>>82928493 (OP)
Does anyone here ever watch porn with women that are physically similar to their mothers and self insert as the guys fucking them?

>>82963792
Glad you're back and on some better meds! And congrats on your progress with your mom!

Did you ever go into how the two of you started, or what inspired you to pursue her?

>>82960775
I DO ADORE HIM I'm volatile is all fucking sorry christ I "have" borderline personality disorder. i haven't gotten into specifics of our relationship yet, it really isn't like how you say. ive only made like 5 posts or something. i can tell the thanksgiving story later if you guys want because that was the first time anything happened. im treating it casually because it is but i started posting because i want to bring it into romance territory which is why i'm posting today in preparation for our freaking date WE'RE SEEING BUGONIA TONIGHT

so here's what's been happening i did have a lapse in emotion when i yelled but last night we sat down and talked about the status of things in a serious manner which i found boring however it was productive. He again told me that it's a bad idea to continue having sex, even though I'm beautiful and he loves me (his words) and this was really the first time this was acknowledged out loud soberly. that we're having sex and it got me excited instantly to even hear that spoken. Even though he was close to setting me off by saying i should go back to therapy i stayed calm i was a good girl mhm and told him that I had feelings for him since i was little, that it wasn't just me lashing out or getting off on the thrill. i explained that when we kissed properly for the first time it was because i had been dreaming about it for years, and even that i felt like we flirted when i was still a teenager anyways. He didn't deny that btw but circled back to it being a normal thing for a young woman to admire her father. I said that i really do love him and that it could be nice for both of us, that i always have issues with other boys and that we already have a bond. All he could say was that we're at least going to put an "indefinite break" to intercourse but we can do other things together, also no more heavy drinking. I did try to fight it a little bit but it's an opportunity for dates and getting closer in other ways

>>82963792
try rubbing your nipples against hers, the sensation is otherworldly, especially with some spit in between. since she has big tits it should not be difficult at all. i've tried it out with my ex and it was amazing despite me being male, for you it should feel 10x better

i don't believe this plankfem

>>82960775
>would always dress up in something silly and unsexy like a bee or an apple.
your mom is such a mommy

>>82964639
>BPD
We had a girl like that once upon a time. European, rape victim, in love with her brother. We never heard from her again.
As gay as it might sound I agree with your dad on no sex for a while, it would just cheapen the relationship you should be striving for

>>82960775
>you can make all the "here lies Hapa-chan, she never scored" memes
We really should be making OC and ebin maymays here in /mcg/

a FeIix update would be nice

>>82964727
>last felix update was September 15th
grim

>>82964743
Not much to post about when things are going steady, I suppose

>>82963999
Heh, thank you B)

>>82964354
Thank you!! It's about time things started coming up Plankfem. It was a rough few months, I'll tell you hwhat. But thankfully I have a great support system! My mommy, my bff who isn't important to the story because she's not a hot family member, my other friends who are equally unimportant. Lmao that sounds so mean of me.

>>82964629
Thank you thank you thank you. I'm pretty sure I've told about our origins? It's in one of the old threads. I think those are documented in the Google doc. I have my own section there because I'm so cool. B)

>>82964647
Imagine the saluting emoji here. I'll do it spontaneously sometime soon, she likes when I'm weird like that.

>>82964655
Man what :( Can't please them all I suppose.

>>82964854
>I'm pretty sure I've told about our origins? It's in one of the old threads.
I think 99% of your posts can be found here
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/search/username/Plankfem/
There's like two or maybe three from the beginning that won't show up because you didn't have the username right off the bat

>>82964893
Oh gotcha! Well then TLDR, I've been really into her for like my entire sexually-awakened life. But I only started pursuing her 2 years ago, or about 2 years ago. I'd flirt with her a lot, or try to. I'd compliment her every chance I could. I'd get more and more detailed and lusty with every compliment and flirt.
And she loved it. She loves my attention. It helps that she's bi, and loves flirty horny silly girls like me, haha. I really got lucky with having a bi mommy.
Umm so I mean after a bit more teasing on my part, things just fell into place. I kept upping my attention, I made her a few very romantic dinners. She always knew I wanted her. She just likes playing with her food.

>>82964972
what do you think triggered it? that doesn't happen very often, right?
was there any "incident" or anything like that..?

love how people are @ing at dexter for not liking kels or to say they love his mom but nobody is asking about a friend of his almost going to jail lmao

>>82959625
>but afterwards I feel so ashamed

Honestly, this is an interesting topic
mcg dudes, those of you who jerk it directly to your mom, whether its Ai of her you made, photos of her you somehow got, or straight up seeing her naked home or while she sleeps, do you feel ashamed and weirded out by your behavior when post nut clarity hits? Do you feel for a second like that what you do is wrong? Or do you feel none of it whatsoever, and you feel like everything you are doing is right?
What about you success bros like Dexanon or Felix if he shows up? Do you sometimes feel ashamed or weirded out when you are done having sex with your mom and, for a second, you start thinking about it?

Same question for the girls, and especially success story ones
@Hapa, @kels, @plank
Do you guys ever go "oh fuck, I'm horny for my dad / mom, wtf is wrong with me? Jesus" for a bit, or does this never creep up on you?

And finally, same question for our loving sisters
@Brosis and @Nomi
Brosis do you ever stop and think for a second like "holy fuck i just had sex with my brother, wtf" or "jesus, i had a kid with my brother"
and Nomi, same question. You have spent years basically role playing as a housewife for your brother, cleaning his room, cooking for him, flashing him and hoping to make him fall for you.
Do you feel like your love and what you do is 100% natural and nothing is wrong with it, or do you actively think about the fact that what you do and what you want is considered wrong and weird, and maybe even get weirded out by yourself for being in love with him and behaving the way you do?

If I went trick or treating as a young adult with my mom, would people tell me to fuck off or give me candy?

>>82966019
wear something that covers you up enough that it's difficult to tell if you're an adult or teen, like a ghostface costume

>>82965677
>Brosis do you ever stop and think for a second like "holy fuck i just had sex with my brother, wtf" or "jesus, i had a kid with my brother"
I don't feel guilt for sleeping with him. We're adults, we consent, and I can't speak for his feelings but he's my soulmate. What does bother me is that our children won't get that traditional home with two parents, and we'll never be able to be open about their father with them, and there won't ever be a wedding. It keeps me awake at night, staring at the ceiling, wondering maybe if things would be different if I'd pushed harder 20 years ago. There are days where it feels like a knife is twisting around in my heart because of it.

>>82965677
i'm gonna say it we have too many girls

>>82966713
We don't have too many girls we have too many guys that don't post. If every guy that's posted updates in the last year showed up there'd be at least a 3:1 gender ratio

>>82966746
r9k is dwindling as too are those willing to craft intricate fake narratives about fucking their mom

>>82965677
My mom is hot and she'd be flattered I fantasize about her. IDGAF what society thinks

Gothmom anon where are you?
https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/75241387/#75245913

made me think of plankfem >>82967074

>>82960572
hard pass, Velbas appeal is the next door woman charm. This woman looks like a hooker

>>82928493 (OP)
What are the chances of a now divorced single mother turning to her child for sex because of the current situation I am right now I seem to be the only person keeping her afloat mentally and money wise
I tried to get close to my mom once but she suspected something and I didnt try to do anything else but after dad divorced her a few months ago she seems to be just in a limbo when it comes to emotions

>>82968862
>a now divorced single mother turning to her son for sex
that's kinda the rule for success stories around here

Hej everyone, sorry i didn't come back yesterday to say goodbye, i spent most of my day with mom yesterday. Also i might have made a mistake, i went to one of my friends and asked her about protection and pills and stuff because the conversations from last time kept ringing in my head, making me worried about what to choose, so i asked her what she used and what she thinks is safe, and she started to ask me smug questions like if i have a secret boyfriend that i'm not telling about, or if i'm finally planning to hook up with someone, because she said she was starting to suspect i was a lesbian, which honestly kinda hurt to hear. Not that i got anything against gay people, but i don't think i behave like one, i don't know why she said that. But yeah i said no to everything, but she kept bombarding me with these invasive questions, and i feel like she suspects i have a crush on someone or that i have something in the works, but obviously i can't tell her that my crush is my brother, whom she knows very well. So i did get some useful info and she recommended me a pill she used and said it did nothing to her, but other than that, i think it was a bad idea to ask her, because i don't want anyone to have a suspicion that i'm having sex with someone, when i'm hoping to secretly have it with my brother some day.
>>82965677
I don't know if i should consider myself weird for this, but no. None. Everytime when i let him see me naked, that time when i saw his penis so upclose, when i confessed love to him, when we first kissed all the way to our last kiss, i never once felt like i'm doing something wrong, i felt happy and i knew inside that he is the right person for me, and i knew i really want this.
>>82960775
thanks.
>>82958568
but that just means asking him to pull out before he finishes. Even if I'm a virgin and i don't know a lot about sex, i know that this is super unsafe and could easily result in pregnancy, it's kinda common sense plus also heard that in health class.

No pulling out

>>82969110
Don't worry about it. Your brother will probably pull out and spray it all over your boobs and tummy.

>>82962663
Not sure how to go about it. Just going `Hey remember dating years ago, wanna do that again?`. Also would probably cause our families to disown us. I would be okay with it, not sure about her.

>>82963792
How therapeutic is it when you're sucking on your mommy's breasts?

>>82968862
CHADSON has a 100% chance of banging his single mom.

>>82969178
Inside is more fun, especially once you get to a point where keeping him inside turns him on more

>>82969178
>>82969273
>>82970547
That is kinda the thing, i have no clue what it feels like, but from the porn i watched, i know that when guys cum, it's a lot more thick and supposedly it's very warm, and i feel like feeling that happen inside would feel insanely good. Another thing is that to me, what i want from sex with him is just love and romance and it feeling good. Tracking if someone is close to cumming or not, worrying about whether its okay to continue or time to pull out and just things like that, it seems like hassle, like distracting stuff. I feel like sex is not a thinking matter, from what i seen it really seems like you just turn your brain off and just do it, and that makes it very pleasurable. I know that if we do end up having sex, i don't want to constantly stop him like "wait are you close? wait are you close? wait are you close?" or anything like that, that's why i like the pill option, because i don't have to worry about anything or give him conditions, because that's something i don't want to do, if he has any for me, that's fine, but i want him to just enjoy me and my body anyway he wants, because i feel like that's what a good girlfriend would do, want to please the guy you love, not have restrictions and conditions. Maybe it's stupid but that is how i feel about sex in theory, i don't know maybe i will feel about it different once I actually had sex.

>>82970028
I just want to say, i was able to suppress my love for my brother for about 12 years before I couldn't take it anymore and messed up things so hard it made me try to kill myself. I feel like if i didn't tho, none of this awesome progress i achieved in the last weeks would be possible, i would just secretly feel this way for years and years, watch him leave, and then probably die alone and depressed at like 25 or something. What i want to say is, i think the worst thing you can do is not tell her, if you love her, i think she will love hearing it, i can tell you as a girl that if my brother at any point in my life confessed love to me, i would probably have a heart attack from happiness. The worst thing you can do to yourself is know you love someone and just stomp it down and push it back, because it will explode on you, and it will probably be very hurtful and bad, like it was for me. I know now that if i just kept hiding it inside, i would be drowning in regret for the rest of my life.
Anyway i wanted to say goodnight everyone, i will probably not be back anymore today, im going with my brother and some other people to a halloween party that's near us, but he said he made some plans and we will sneak out a bit later and go to a different place for a different halloween party, one that is a lot further away and where no one knows either of us except for 1 guy who knows him, but he said he never even told him he has a sister so no one knows me there. I'm really looking forward to it a lot, i gotta start getting ready in like half an hour tho.

>>82965034
Triggered what? My crush on her? Her accepting my crush? Idk to be honest, to either. Well for one she's really really beautiful. And I'm pretty cute. So. I don't know.

>>82965677
>Do you guys ever go "oh fuck, I'm horny for my mom, wtf is wrong with me? Jesus" for a bit, or does this never creep up on you?
Sometimes I have thoughts like that. But my moms and i relationship is pretty wholesome I think, as wholesome as incest can be.
We're just really happy together, as of right now. So if I ever have those types of thoughts, it feels more like that's what the "societal norm" side of myself is worrying about, rather than like the actual me, if that makes sense.

>>82968602
Lmao she's not THAT curvy. That's crazy. And AI I'm assuming. I didn't know you could generate porn now, that's weird.

>>82970063
It's soooo nice! She like pets and kisses my head as I do it and calls me her good girl. I get all mushy and my body gets so big relaxed and heavy. It's heavenly.

>>82969110
>she started to ask me smug questions like if i have a secret boyfriend that i'm not telling about, or if i'm finally planning to hook up with someone,
Eh probably for the best your friend thinks your hooking up with a random guy and not your brother. Throwing off the trail is a good thing. Better to have people suspect you of being a slut instead of a brother fucker if its illegal in your country.
>>82970660
Nomi wearing a sexy Halloween costume for her bro!

>>82970747
Greentext time. Your last update was when you started to cuddle topless with your mom. How did you escalate or did she start exploring?

This story is fucking gross to me but maybe some of you will get off on it. Or take it as a cautionary tale. Whatever, but I just have to get it out of my system.
I grew up with a sister with large "assets". Never really looked at them or anything but it's hard not to notice.
I have always been into incest porn but never into my actual family. I guess I just like the taboo aspect, I also like other stuff like cheating porn.
For me, anything to do with my actual sister though is just gross. There is a physical reaction and I don't let myself even consider anything sexual. Or I didn't.
The other night, I had a vivid dream that I had sex with my sister. It was exactly like an incest porn video. We were hanging out in my old room and things gradually got heated. We started exploring each other's bodies curiously and things just kept ramping up. Our parents were downstairs and we had to be sneaky. First things were shy and passionate. I couldn't believe we were doing it. I kissed her passionately. Then we started going at it like animals, not caring if someone heard us. If it was real, it would have been the best sex of my life.
Afterwards in my dream my dad confronted me. I admitted to it, said it felt amazing and I'd do it again and there's nothing he could do to stop it. "I love fucking my sister." Then I woke up.
Whatever mental block I had is gone. Now my sister flashes into my head all the time when I'm jerking off. I am trying to rebuild that barrier but it's tough.

>>82971520
>said it felt amazing and I'd do it again and there's nothing he could do to stop it.
Based and sisterpilled. Now make it a reality.

>>82971520
is she older or younger than you? what's the age gap?

>>82971613
She's older than me by 4 years.

>>82971620
her large assets must be driving you crazy

>>82971638
I'm trying not to think about it. The reason you don't really want to indulge it when you have a sister like that is because you don't want to be unable to not look at a big pair of tits without thinking of your sister. I'm not quite there yet but I could be getting there. I'm realizing my options are to kill this now, be grossed out by tits and ass my whole life, or just indulge it completely and become okay with it.

>>82971658
Is she cuddly?

>>82971692
No. And she was cruel to me growing up. I don't really like her.
Fucking pic pressed my buttons

>>82971658
Well you already said you were into incest porn before, more the concept and not the reality, so what's stopping you from continuing that? You can get off to her every now and then but as long as it isn't a daily thing you should be able to compartmentalize it within the realm of "sexual fantasies that will never happen" the same way of getting off to monstergirls or fictional characters. I feel like you might be trying too hard to ward off ANY feelings when it'd probably fine to admit being only physically attracted to your sister without needing to act on it.

>>82971805
My mind screams no at me when I think about it. Flashing into my head when I'm trying to jerk off is one thing but it seems like actually getting off on her is a step too far. How do you come back from that? There's no putting the sister fap cum back in the penis.

>>82971658
>just indulge it
yes

>>82971842
Like I said I think you're trying way too hard to suppress it which is only making it worse. Sexual fantasy is just fantasy so it doesn't really matter.

For any bisexual dudes here, would you ever want to have a bi threesome with your mom and dad, or at least your mom and her boyfriend/your stepdad?

>>82970634
I just find it's an emotionally "closer" experience. Pill worked okay for us, as long as you can actually remember to take it on time every day. If not there are things you can get implanted. Male birth control's been in the works forever too and "somehow" they just never make it to market. I remember reading like 10 years ago about one that would have been a single, reversible shot for a man, and it would shred all the sperm on their way out so no baby.

>>82970660
If not full on laid, you are gonna get kissed again a lot today nomi. You keep saying "if we ever..." but the fact is, normal brothers dont take their sisters dancing to a club and then aggresively make out with them afterwards. Him wanting to sneak away to a diffirent party with you where ppl dont know you just shows he wants to be able to openly treat you the way he shouldnt be seen treating a sister. No wonder really, there is only so many home cooked meals and i love yous a man can handle before he cracks

>>82972048
>at least your mom and her boyfriend
Yes*, but with caveats. Realistically her boyfriend would be my age or younger, and I would feminize him. Any other scenario I wouldn't be comfortable with my mom having a boyfriend in the first place, I'd want her to be mine alone.
Outside of this it's just fetish stuff that's not really relevant to the thread.

>>82972048
mom and my boyfriend > mom and dad > mom and her boyfriend

>>82964455
Yes I can't even fap to women who don't resemble my mom in some way

>>82972563
what would you do with your dad? would you make out with him? would you let him fuck you while you're fucking mom at the same time?

>>82972487
while your boyfriend is feminized, would you let him fuck your mom? what if your bf had a bigger dick than you even when feminized and your mom liked him more? would you be jealous or would you be supportive?

>>82972991
i don't even know for sure if i would do it. would def share her with my boyfriend if she was down

>>82971905
Yeah but I don't really *need* this new kink in my life either. It's not like it was hard before, literally effortless to not think about it. Just hoping it goes back to that. I guess if it becomes unbearable I'll give in.

I wonder if nomi is getting some brocock right now

happy halloween /mcg/

>>82972048
I'd put my dad in a dress and (consensually) rape him then blow my mom's back out
My mom's cheated with a few guys, I'd probably frot with (most) of them, make out, and then have us take turns topping eachother (before blowing my mom's back out)

oh so you all gay niggas

Annoying your big sister

>>82972048
>cuckshit
fuck off cuck

>>82975821
There he is, I was wondering what had happened to you. Too much cuckshit in the last few hours

>buy the same 100 pack of mini chocolate bars every leaf gets for Halloween
>only get about half a dozen trick or treaters, give them a handful each because fuck it
>have most of a box of a chocolate all to myself
Happy Halloween, I'm going to destroy these candies over the next couple weeks

>>82976206
>nestle doesn't sell smarties or coffee crisp in the US
I'm jelly

>>82976230
Coffee Crisp is the best part of the box and it's not even close, I could eat those every day. I do prefer Smarties over M&Ms too, they taste cleaner somehow, don't know how else to put it

>>82975345
Thanksgiving origin story when?

>>82970660
Honestly I know I need to make up my mind about how I will deal with the feelings soon. Current situation is not sustainable for me. Might try to float the idea of visiting her soon. Kinda like 'Hey gonna be close to your place for some work thing, wanna hang out?'.

Mommy needs a hard cock!

>>82965677
Same anon here. Still feeling that way, but trying to push through it. Gonna go out wine tasting with her tonight. I know she's gonna be a little inappropriate, but I want to embrace it.

>>82978216
wined mommies crave soncock!

I feel like mother-son is the variety of incest that has the highest chance of being consensual when it does happen. Boys and young men tend to be pretty open to just about anything as long as it's not gay, if they're straight.

Father-daughter? Straight up rape 99.99% of the time. Brother-sister? Mostly still rape, brother probably wanted it and sister probably didn't. Same with cousins. I suppose aunt-nephew could be similar to mother-son but there's still greater distance there.

>>82978474
we've had some pretty miserable posters who got diddled by mom as kids

>>82978474
I'm gonna say the most likely to be consensual is bro/bro because that's how dudes are, sorry to rain on your parade

Happy dia del muertos /mcg/

>>82978474
you are either groomed by unhealthy environment you both live in or the parent, it's not something you could call as consensual, because simply in healthy family those thoughts wouldn't cross somebody mind

>>82928493 (OP)
what did you and your mom dressed up as for halloween?

halloween Ema

>>82965677
>Do you guys ever go "oh fuck, I'm horny for my dad / mom, wtf is wrong with me? Jesus" for a bit, or does this never creep up on you?
i get in swings of self-loathing and it's always kind of festering in like a, i'm so fucking weird and not normal, sorta way. but it's not constrained to incest i just think that about myself. i feel guilty that i have coerced him into a situation he might feel guilty about and then i remind myself we both wanted each other badly. he likes black girls and i was a flirt even when i was like 14 wtf do you want me to say it was made to be
>>82977047
i'm mentally drained cuz i took molly last night so i will be doing that and a long update post like i guess next week it won't be sexy if i write it now

>>82978216
Just got home. Interesting night, but I wish it wasn't a group tour. Could feel judgmental eyes piercing into me when had too much and got too hands on. Nothing too sexy, just her head on the shoulder and hand on my leg. The fear of judgement makes me hesitate the most.

She was on her best behavior for most of the night. Usually, after a few drinks, she starts talking about her sex life, or asking about mine. She did quietly break from the group with me to have a pee in the vineyard, though. Nerve wracking, but Christ, she has a nice ass.

Had a nice chat with her, when she got home. Talked about how I felt judged, but obviously not that it's because I want to fuck her. She talked about how she used to be afraid of it, too. Wish I waited for her to sober up, because she segwayed into talking about how she used to be afraid men wouldn't find her pussy attractive until she learned to stop caring. Oh, well. I feel we're a little closer after tonight.

Hej everyone. I'm having a total crash day today. I'm incredibly overwhelmed, i slept until almost 18:00, and my head is in the clouds. Couldn't be happier tho, things are so great right now.
>>82978474
well what about me? I wanted it, i wanted it so much, and he never made any advances on me or forced me into anything, he is just being a loving person all in all.
>>82972374
yeah i sometimes think about the fact that we kissed and i realize how far that is from what is normally seen as normal, and it makes me really happy. And you were right, i did get kissed again a lot yesterday, and other stuff.

>>82982482
>other stuff
Ya gotta fill us in!

>>82982795
Well we went to the halloween party, and snuck out just like he said we would after a bit, he kinda just said we should stick around a bit so that people saw that we were here. What i didn't know is that mom also went to one, but a different one, with her friends and her old class members from school, i guess they combined a halloween party and a reunion, but she said she will probably be late so if i get home i shouldn't wait for her. It's normal, because i don't drink and also don't party much, she expected me to be home a lot earlier and my brother to just go all night and sleep at one of his friends places as usual.
But yeah so we snuck out of the thing, and we took a bus together to the other party, and it was a bit overwhelming for me, i still had a good time with him, because he was so affectionate and held me by the hip next to him very firmly most of the time. One weird thing was, he asked me if i wanted to drink and i said not really, I'm having a good time with you, and that he doesn't need to drink either if he doesn't want to, and he was surprised, he said usually when girls go to parties like this with guys, they expect the guys to drink and make fun of them for not wanting to drink a lot, from his experience, and i was like no that's stupid, i want you to have a good time, and he seemed happy but surprised that this is how i see it. I find that so weird honestly, expecting the other person to drink a lot, i don't know if that's a norm but if it is, it's stupid and I'm happy to not be like that. But anyway at like 23:50 we got out and he asked me if i wanted to go home, because he noticed that i was kinda burned out socially, and he was right, i'm not much of a party person so, i was happy he suggested it and we went to catch a bus home. It was nice because he still kept holding me close and we talked about stuff.

>>82983078
sorry i had to do something real quick. So we came home and i wanted to instantly shower, because i could feel all kinds of smells like cigarettes and stuff on me from there, and i went to the bathroom and got naked, and then i had the feeling i should use the situation, so i went to his room and i asked him if he wanted to join me in the shower, but he said no. It kinda made me sad but i was happy for the time we spent together, so i just went, i took my shower, i went to my room and put on my pyjamas because i wanted to lay down for a second, we agreed to watch something afterwards. So i was in my bed, and suddenly he came to my room and he asked me if he could join me for a second. He seemed really upset so i was worried, but he just said he was sorry and that he fucked up, and that he should have said yes to the shower, and asked if i was angry at him. I said no of course not, and he asked if i wanted to kiss again like before in his car, and i got really happy so we started kissing again, same way as before in the car, he was pushing into me and all, i almost feel over on my back. So we kept doing that for a bit and then while kissing me, he put his hand in my pyjama pants and touched my crouch, i didn't expect it so i kinda just froze up, and he was like fuck sorry, but i said it's fine, it just surprised me, but that i like it, and he kept touching me and like pushing with his fingers, it felt so good, like he just kept kissing me and doing that for a couple minutes, i was sitting on my knees but my legs were shaking so much. And then he stopped for a second and asked if i wanted to try that too, and obviously fuck yes i do, and he kinda dragged my hand into his pants, and he was fully hard, and it was so crazy warm. He took of his pants off fully and like, i kinda tried to give him a handjob the way girls did it in porn that i saw, and he laughed at me and asked if this was really the first time i held a penis.

>>82979315
Actually I will amend my answer to this haha

>>82983310
and i said yeah of course because i wanted him so why wouldn't it be and he said he didn't think i was serious when i told him that, and i said like why wouldn't i be, and he said he just expected that i would have at least kissed someone or done something at this point, with the way i look, and i kinda got wierded out like what is wrong with the way i look, and he said that i just look like a girl who gets out with guys a lot, especially because of having nipple piercings, he said usually very sexually active girls get those, and i was like i told you already that i got those because i heard you liked them so i got them to look good for you, and he like almost shouted at me like "wait you were serious about that?" and i kinda told him that most of how i look i did because i wanted to be pretty for him. I don't know if it upset him or not but he just went super quiet, like he didn't say anything at all, i even asked like well? and even then he just went "no nothing". But so then i touched him again and he asked me if i wanted to see how to do it, and so i sat next to him and i watched him touch himself and stroke himself instead, and i held his hand while he did it with the other, and sometimes we kissed while he did it. I really felt so happy because i never thought i would get to this point, and now i was here and he was doing this next to me, and i didn't have to beg him or something to let me watch, but instead he offered, it was just awesome. I watched him for some time, i can't really tell how long, a couple minutes at least, and then he started groaning and he came on himself. He was squeezing my hand so hard while doing it too. But then it got kinda weird, because i went in to kiss him again, and he just told me to wait a second, and then he kinda started starring at the ceiling, i said his name to break the silence after a bit and he just asked me if i could get him a towel from the bathroom, so i brought one and he cleaned himself off.

>>82983434
and that was where evening kinda ended for us. He said he felt too tired and didn't want to watch a movie anymore, and i said that was fine, so we just said goodnight to each other, and he locked himself in his room and went to sleep. I was absolutely freaking out inside, i had energy for hours, so i watched some stuff alone, played some games, then at like 3 in the morning i went for a walk with headphones on, i still wasn't tired until like 7 in the morning. I had to hide in my room for the rest because mom came home at around 4:30 and was angry that i was still up, so i had to pretend to sleep but didn't really. And then i slept through the whole day.
The only thing that kinda worries me is that my brother seems kinda troubled. When i woke up i wanted to go tell him "good morning" even tho it was almost night again, and i kinda just jumped at him and kissed him, and he did kiss me back and it was nice and all, but then he just apologized to me and he said that if i feel like he took advantage of me last night, i need to tell him and that he is sorry for everything, and i was confused like what are you talking about, i loved that i enjoyed that so much, and he just said that he was happy i did and didn't hate him or think he is a creep, and i was like no wtf i love you, what is this, and he said it's nothing and that we don't have to talk about this now, and then kinda just went back to his room. He didn't really talk to me much anymore today, and now it's night again, and he already went to sleep, i don't really know what i'm gonna do now, i'm not tired at all, my sleep schedule is kinda ruined.

>>82983500
Aaaaah that is amazing, congrats!
Sounds like he is feeling guilty about it, but it seems like you are good at helping him work through it.

ngl, this thread is funny as shit if you look at it through a different lens.
>Aaaaah that is amazing, congrats!
meanwhile:
>slowly brainwashing her own brother into god knows what and doesn't even have a single clue about it
but he got an erection tho, so that's good
should poke him more and more until her surrenders!
that seems very consensual, I respec

is this what some of yall doing?

>>82983914
>slowly brainwashing her brother into god knows what
If Nomi was one of our more Machiavellian posters it'd be concerning, but she just wants to be his wife m8. Is a normal relationship where the girl is pursuing someone initially ambivalent to her also wrong to you?

>>82983914
pretty sure Bromi is leading the way at this point

>>82984074
>more Machiavellian posters
Like who

>>82984097
One that immediately came to mind was the AI poster, his fantasies can get a little unhinged at times.

>>82971520
Well talking about it didn't fucking help, it's even harder to get her out of my head when I jerk off now. I should have pretended like it wasn't happening.
The good thing is though that I can still fuck my girlfriend without thinking about her, and I saw her IRL and didn't really feel attraction. So there is still hope for me (I'm sure this thread is not happy to hear that though).

>>82984144
wn2b describing her looks in vivid detail nonny

>>82984090
Nomi is for sure a nasty 30 something balding troon that is larping fyi

>>82984169
idk how much I believe any of the fems. If plank is real she's super autistic just from the typing patterns, nomi rambles so much it reads like fanfiction, kels might just be actually crazy. Brosis is most believable

The gayest shit itt is that you niggaz larp as if you wanna fuck your own mom, no nigga, your mom is not hot and she looks like shit, posting however many hot actual good looking milfs and gilfs with fat tits and ass wont distract from that fact
so stop being a gay ass nigga and be normal and just call it a milf thread instead of momcest or some gay ass shit like that, hoooly

only here for the good looking women not your gay ass long texts about your ugly mothers

yall niggas are so close but so far away, tf wrong witchyall

im white btw, get your shit together for FUCK sake

>>82984168
I have no idea wtf wn2b means or what you mean by nonny. Do you want me to describe what she looks like?

>>82984286
we need to be
cute name for anonymous is this your first day
yes

>>82984074
if my sister does everything to look like a prostitute to the point i dont even know her anymore and it just so happens i go to a brothel and hook up with her, not knowing it's her, and then i get an erection fucking my own sister, is it an erection because she's my sister or because i paid for a prostitute?

or let's say i'm completely disabled and the only way for me to feel anything is through my dick and sex, and say before some war incident made me like this i had a wife, and now in this state she has sex with me but it's actually the dog she's using to fuck me, yet i get a boner and everything, i even lift my hips a bit and push harder against it, am i consenting to zoophilia?

it's so fucking funny it's insane
larping paradise, literally
yall would eat a dog in here from all the starvation you gotten

>>82984097
Escobar

>>82983500
Don't feel too bad about it, we men have this thing called "post-nut clarity" where after we've ejaculated we're filled with deep deep guilt, shame and regret. We're disappointed in ourselves and cannot bear to look at ourselves in the mirror. It goes away after a while.
Just give him some space.

manifesting updates from ALL mommyfuckers in the coming days

>>82984302
>is this your first day
I haven't browsed this board regularly in probably 12 years or more.
She's short, big ass and tits, brunette. That's about all I want to say. This is also the first time I'm realizing I love shortstacks and that's basically her. I hate that I'm discovering this.

>>82983434
>>82983500
Men can be like that when things first escalate. Probably best to just give him some space for a couple days to think about it. Then maybe sit down with him and talk it out.

hej everyone, i went for a walk and then watched a movie, was hoping it would knock me out, it did not, i still feel not tired at all. I will go to bed anyway and try to sleep, but i feel so excited and like i wanna run around and just be happy, it keeps me so awake.
>>82983800
thank you, i hope he doesn't, he didn't do anything wrong, he knows i want this, i said it a lot of times plus i invited him to shower with me, i think i made it pretty obvious apart from actually telling him flat out.
>>82984253
i have to say, i have heard this a lot from pretty much almost everyone i spoke to online and in real life too. That if i want to tell a story or talk about something, i talk about it too much, drag it out, talk too much details for no reason, and so on. I don't know, i just feel like if someone asks you something, or if you have something to say, you should say it so that you feel happy with what you said, and you feel like everyone was given all the information they wanted and that you wanted to give. Maybe it's a bad quality, but i don't feel like i'm wrong, even if people say i drag out and ramble too much, and should keep it shorter.
>>82984598
I heard about that before, that guys sometimes feel this surge of shame after cumming because apparently the "clarity" makes them ashamed of what they just did. I wonder why nature made this, it sounds so counter productive for yourself. But i will give him all the space he needs, i'm happy that we did what we did, i just hope we can do more, or at least that i can watch him again.
Anyway goodnight everyone i will go try to lay down and force myself to sleep

>>82985876
I'm jealous dreamanon sounds like she needs to be dicked

Nomi's brother felt so guilty because he lost NNN during its first few hours.

>>82981452
kels, all respect, your dad sounds like he groomed you from a young age & bpd doesnt come from nowhere. it may be good to spend a year away - get an apt with some friends, fuck it take a loan and go to school, do something youre 19, this is the 'fill the void' aspect of the condition. trust me..dad cock may be fat but this sounds highly suspect. no judgement, just concerned from what im reading
>>82983500
oh nomi. he is at war with himself guilty because he feels like hes taking advantage of his little sister. you need to be more communicative - see if you can have a sit-down and ask him his hesitations, and dont get too deep, just soothe his worries when he says 'oh do you tegret it' 'was it too far' you need to lead, because it aounds like he is a good man and a good brother. he wont push past the boundaries that define those ideas to him.
try to communicate that you love that about him and want to add a third category called beinf a good boyfriend which means he shouldnt be shy ahahaha

>>82982088
anon, i get that you're apprehensive, but you should be more descriptive. have more fun with it. you are among fellow perverts and weirdos, don't feel judged here. describe the night, describe her ass, talk about your conversation, and you better believe i want a better description of what happened in the vineyard.

>>82983500
no worries nomi, your brother is going through a lot, but he clearly sees you as a viable option now, even if a difficult one.

From what you told us, it sounds like his ex girlfriends were trashy as fuck, and now he has you around telling him you love him unconditionally all the time, making him hearty home made meals with love, wanting to do anything he wants to do, and being a virgin wanting to give herself to him. Trust me, most men love it when a girl gives them their first time, especially if she literally saved herself for them.

He was conflicted before about whether he wants to go for his sister, and then he made out with you, and now in a horny moment, he jerked off with you in bed and had you watch him. That post nut clarity must have hit him like a fucking nuclear bomb, he is kinda processing the fact that his little sister watched him cum. Nothing in life can really prepare you for that kind of a feeling. Just give him some time, if he wasnt disgusted with himself after the first time he made out with you, then he is open to this anyway. He just needs to process it, you have to realize everything inside him he knows about being normal is screaming at him that he shouldnt be doing this with you, but i believe love wins over social convention, so you just keep showing him that its not wrong to do this with you, and he will deal with it

>>82987559
What is it about father/daughter that is so alarming raising unlike the dozens of mommy stories over the years? Sounds like sexism to me, that you still think of women as stupid children

>>82986090
hope your brother rubs your bean soon

>>82987754
Sorry, anon. I was a little drunk
>describe the night
Wine tasting wasn't the right description. It was a tour of a winery with free drinks. And probably meant for couples, but I don't think that was her intention. Start of the night went well enough, we talked a lot about the scenery, about life, and sex didn't really come up except way later after a few drinks. I don't think anyone was actually too judgmental, I just get paranoid when I'm tipsy.

We ate by a big tree, and there were milk goats in a nearby paddock. A billy goat managed to get out of his enclosure and ended up screwing several of them, and when we stopped laughing she joked about him having good taste and how much she likes to have sex in nature. She was already pretty drunk, and there were way too many people around, so I don't believe she was coming onto me. But it gave me confidence.

>>82987754
I am not going to speak about a woman pissing in detail unless anons actually want it. That's gross, man.

>>82990088
>>82990208
i'm a bit out of the loop, are you talking about a momdate or someone else?

>>82990262
It was a mom "date". It's not really a romantic thing, not yet. But I think we're very close to that point. She's just doesn't have much of a filter, especially when she's drunk, and she's very comfortable around me. It's not easy to explain unless you know her.

>>82990375
Have you filled this out already >>82929340

>>82990375
Your mommy needs a man, anon. Be there for her

>>82990405
I put question marks near the ones I'm not sure how to answer. She has always been monogamous and faithful, but also very sex positive, so I wouldn't call her a slut. And I guess I'm going to find out if she's a secret pervert soon. Big asterisk on cellulite. She's in shape, and her ass is round, smooth and shapely, but there is a little bit on it and her thighs.

>>82990550
Now for the biggest question, winemom-anon. Would you fuck her?

>>82990634
Sometimes, without second thought. Sometimes I get pre-nut clarity and it all feels wrong. I am definitely attracted to her.

>>82990675
she ever asked about your cock or anything?

the library in OP needs some additions

Sadly I cannot quit her advances, I am hooked up on it, addicted as fuck. I think soonish I will retry and offer for her to watch documentaries together. During the documentaries most of the escalations happened, so if I were to offer it now after us haven't watched them since then it's basically as if to say "You wanna do all of this again?" but this time add some clarity, if she agrees "Do you wanna have it just like back then?" if yes "With me caressing you?" if no - "Then we just watching documentaries today."

>>82991101
Ask less and touch more, mine-anon..

>>82991116
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
bruh
I de-escalated since then, her intentions a bit clear, either one of those:
1. she teased me in cruel way of her saying "you already missed my ass, it's occupied now, ha-ha loooser!"
or
2. "you have missed chance with me, but I am still here and waiting."

I cannot simply reestablish previous escalations, after this long period of platonic, just cause I want it back myself.

I need help tho fr, I am unironically mentally ill, like my brain malfunctions so much, even though I understand that I was groomed and conditioned in various of ways and being manipulated by own mother into emotional incest, I still proceed after all of this still, it's just im way too deep into this to simply let go of it all and for good, I have tried but it's just doesn't work for me..

>>82991189
>get some alcohol which is required. as you said
>touch her more
>tell her that ass is yours and you want it.

>>82991189
>I was groomed and conditioned in various of ways and being manipulated by own mother into emotional incest
Sure looks like it

>>82989128
>kels tells us her dad flirted with her from a young age & kissed her at thanksgiving when she was 16
thats my issue. hapachan is clearly not a grooming product but i see some flags on this one. all the best to her tho, i hope kels amd her dad work out a healthy relationship if thats the path she choose

>>82991189
how old are you two and is your mom hot?

>>82991189
>just cause I want it back myself
Did she get a boyfriend or something between you initial posts and now? What makes you think she could be taken now? She's still flirting with you, I think she wants it back too.