Thread 83010084

Am I the only one who thinks that improving oneself in order to get a relationship is just a humiliation ritual?

>work out so that you can be with someone who can't climb stairs without taking a break.
>Have money and be financially responsible so that you can be with someone who takes loans to go to music festivals and uses a "buy now pay later" app for makeup.
>Learn to cook to be with someone who stacks taco bell boxes in her apartment.
>learn social skills so that you can be with someone who says "uhh" between every word.
>get a hobby and become interesting so you can be with someone who has Netflix and pizza as her life's calling.

>>83010084 (OP)
You are correct anon, which is why the new meta is pumping and dumping.

>>83010084 (OP)
Living as a sub5 is a humiliation ritual

>>83010084 (OP)
You're one step away from realizing, "Wait, this all isn't worth it." Once you internalize that, it's just a matter of whether you feel blessed by the knowledge and live untethered, or broken by it and kill yourself.

Perhaps this is the one thing women have a head start on. You can whine all day about them being chad only, but otherwise they have to deal with someone who isn't attractive, doesn't have a big dick, and won't shower them in money. From their perspective, the cost isn't worth the benefit. So why should you turn your life upside down for someone who won't even make you happy?

>>83010084 (OP)
>>Learn to cook to be with someone who stacks taco bell boxes in her apartment.
that's the dream though, someone who likes my cooking and appreciates taco bell too

>>83010084 (OP)
this is more true for women. dating is just a humiliation ritual that only benefits the man.

>>83010084 (OP)
are your standards really that low? just look for the kinda person you want, someone that really feels like your other half, and forget all that nonsense. if you think finding love should be easier then stop looking and learn to enjoy that solitude. if you dont stop looking she will inevitably show up in your life, it just wont be the way you expect it, because true love never is that way. you have to take it as it comes.

>>83010380
>do nothing
>profit
>somehow humiliated
???

>>83010429
>just humiliate yourself in every way
>and then I'll also say you did nothing lol

>>83010365
She'll want to get food out everyday. The pasta alfredo you made for her will rot in the fridge all week as she runs up your credit card with DoorDash(TM) orders.

>>83010482
Most girls you will date have billions of dollars saved up in their trust fund. You won't be going to the doordash, you'll probably be at fancy restaurants.

>>83010491
Lol no.
They are drowning in debt, they use Klarna and other "buy now pay later" services to buy shit on Temu every day, they take out payday loans to go vacation in Bali, they max out their credit card to buy expensive Makeup.

You are likely way richer than most women you know, just from you having less than 100K in debt.

>>83010537
The difference is women will always find some simp who will pay off their debt.
Women never have to face consequences ever.

>>83010084 (OP)
These things sound kinda nice, but I think the isolation I'm in is driving me crazy.
The real humiliation ritual is self improving hard just to go from a 3/10 too a 5/10 with your potential maxed out.

>>83010380
Crazy bait lmao, you hooked in many anons

>>83010537
nobody actually has debt. the US has ten quadrillion "debt" and it doesn't mean anything. every girl you know is a billionaire and nobody goes to Temu when you can just get Louis Vuitton.

>>83010084 (OP)
The effects of tranime need to be studied. Why does every girl need to be a skinny supermodel fitness freak while her boyfriend is some fat schlob?

>>work out so that you can be with someone who can't climb stairs without
Why should they do that if they are attractive to men despite not working out?
>>Learn to cook to be with someone who stacks taco bell boxes in her apartment.
you learn to cook for yourself, why does it matter what she does in her own apartment? If you live together you just make her cook too
>>get a hobby and become interesting so you can be with someone who has Netflix and pizza as her life's calling.
Why would you have hobbies you don't enjoy?

>>83010560
Where did I say (or even imply) that?

>>83010560
>Why does every girl need to be a skinny supermodel fitness freak
Literally.

>>83010576
Who said you said or implied that?

>>83010560
Because certain anime, like shonen, appeals to the male fantasy. You also have anime that appeals to the female fantasy.
Maybe if you'd actually watch it you will get that it's purly for entertainment purposes and taking it seriously just makes you look silly.

>>83010599
>Maybe if you'd actually watch it you will get that it's purly for entertainment purposes and taking it seriously just makes you look silly.
This. Especially those weird kids who talk like they learned English through tranime, and say the most ESL/cringe shit possible.

>>83010567
weirdly enough, all the self sufficiency makes women less attractive to add to your life

Your problem for bad taste in women. Mine is fit, interesting, good with money et cetera. Or are you a nigger ? It kinda sounds like all of women you been entangled with are just your social equals.
You improve to get out of you [trash] bracket completely, not to continue living as a subhuman. It truly does not make sense to self improve just to still practice being poor

>>83010875
These slobs are still the women who reject me, so it looks like there's a very long gap between leagues.

>>83010084 (OP)
Lots of "MGTOWs" who will absolutely obsess as to the wants and needs of foids.
>OMG women want THIS??? Women want THAT??? Look at this foid demanding men juggle gold ingots with a 15 incher????
What if you ACTUALLY stopped giving a shit. You keep doing it. Where's your self-respect? You keep hinging your happiness the approval of these DEEPLY retarded foids. Realize they are fucking trash and you're conditioned into believing they hold any moral authority whatsoever. On what grounds? Women are unilaterally solipsistic and amoral pieces of shit. Fuck them to hell

>Have decently sized boobs so that you can be with someone who doesn't even have a full head of hair.
>Be hygienic so you can be with someone who won't even wipe his own ass.
>Be slim so you can be with someone who doesn't even have a flat stomach.
>Have money and be financially responsible so that you can be with someone who takes loans to pay for gacha.
>Learn to cook to be with someone who can't even fry an egg.
>Learn to clean to be with someone who keeps his own room filthy.
>Learn to suck his dick good even though he won't even make you orgasm.
>learn social skills so that you can be with someone who says "bro" between every word.
>get a hobby and become interesting so you can be with someone who has Valorant and youtube as his life's calling.

>>83010964
This anon gets it. Stop putting females on a pedestal and assuming they get to decide or dictate anything in the first place. It's a fundamentally flawed outlook on life. This whole "appease women" simp society is disgusting cancer and an embarrassment to witness that's the real humiliation ritual. Have some self-respect and dignity and decide for yourself what you do with yourself and your time.

>>83010084 (OP)
>humiliation ritual
Why do narcissists love this phrase

>>83010084 (OP)
>>83011012
Both of these takes can be summed up pretty simply. Fat lazy gross ugly selfish slobs should be alone. Not everybody is lovable or deserves a good partner that's just a "feel good" bluepill bullshit they tell children. If you have no redeeming qualities or behaviors guess what you're irredeemable. Either change or be alone but stfu and stop expecting to get what you want just because you want it.

>>83011084
it's all demand and offer. Instead of expecting to luck out at your lowest (most of the time it won't happen) you're better off improving yourself

>>83010084 (OP)
You don't have to improve to get a girl. You have to interact with girls until you find one who finds you fuckable which is not as difficult as incels think. However you do have to get out of your comfort zone and be a bit detached from it all. Notice that normies treat dating like a game. Not something serious. If improoving was the way there would be no gymcels and fat guys would all be khhvs.

>>83010084 (OP)
Why should I have to change to find someone who loves me? Why can't anyone like the real me?

>>83010084 (OP)
Worse than all of that, self improoooooooving for a girl that's already been fucked and coomed in by other men that got her when she was younger, hotter, and with less commitment

>>83010464
Women just need to exist in public on a semi regular basis to get dates

>>83011308
>bro just exist it worked for me
you're a stacy