Thread 83028974

Leftists think murder is funny.

4chan 'for the lulz' .net was always a libertarian-anarchist (far-left) website, chud.

>>83028974 (OP)
Murder is funny sometimes. This one is less funny than other ones though. They only haha and chuckle because he didn't care about the victims of school shootings (over personal freedoms) and died in technically a school shooting

>>83028982
I have been here since 2016. It has never been a left-wing shit hole and it never will be. Go fuck yourself!

>>83028974 (OP)
leftists think they should simultaneously be allowed to joke about murder and give you moral lectures based on principles neither one of you believes

>>83028982
Which is completely antithetical to the perpetually offended authoritarian faggots of the current left, who are closer to the Christian Right of the 80s and 90s..
OP is a faggot though

>>83028990
you are a newfag no joke

kirk loved jews which happens on both left and right but stings more from the right

if murder isnt funny we shouldnt support the people who are responsible for every war on the planet

>>83028974 (OP)
astroturfing kike

>>83028974 (OP)
suck my dick

if you honestly think rightist have moral values

you are all kinds of retarded

>>83028990
>2016 r/the_donald faggot transplant talking about what the site has "always been like"
Maybe I should leave.

>>83028982
No it wasn't, at least not by today's standards. People used to shit on "stormfags" more in the past but that's more indicative of how much far-right stuff was always here.

>>83029024
>>83029040
>it appears you said something bad about leftists
>you are a kike. if you are not and actually a human with free will and autonomy, you are instead retarded.
>have a good day, I hope this convinced you to side with us leftists from now on
why do they all act like this

>>83029127
Stormfront is hilarious. why the hell anyone would NOT want neo-Nazis on the internet is beyond me.

so does right wing, its just someone on your side this time

Ok but that picture you posted is kinda funny and I say this as someone who hates lefties. But as for their delight in murderous acts, see what they did to the Russian royal family, somehow they always whine about rape until they can label it a revolutionary act and then it's ok.

>>83029143
>he still seethes over the Romanovs' deaths when the royal family was a bunch of coked-out whores who had starved millions over their reign

>>83029145
>starved millions over their reign
I know another russian guy who did that

I mean, when horrible people die, it's funny, especially on live TV. If my parents got murdered I wouldn't be laughing.
>>83028998
What part of left economic or social policy relates to jokes?
>>83029132
You didn't say anything bad. Everyone thinks murder is funny when it's a horrible person. You just idolize Kirk and I rightly view him as someone who long has deserved to die.

>>83028990
>openly admitting to tourism
Be ashamed.

Also, taking the internet seriously? Double shame.

>>83028974 (OP)
>>83028985
>>83028998
>>83029132
It's like, legalize comedy, yeah!

>>83028990
wow you came here right around the time this site went to shit interesting stuff newfag

>>83029149
That other Russian guy created a superpower

>>83029164
>>83029159
>>83029112
>>83029021
i thought 2020 was oldfag territory

>>83029159
>>openly admitting to tourism
Oldfags are all lolicon troonime perverts and get the rope.

>>83029162
It would be funny if leftists didn't actually want to kill you and your family? We saw your posts, before and after.

>>83029151
>What part of left economic or social policy relates to jokes?
i am referring to left liberals, who are probably not leftists. also leftism has never been about social liberalism and has only recently been associated with socialism
>>83029162
when right-wingers die it is tragic and serious and a crime. when libtards die it is comedic and based.

>>83028974 (OP)
I only really ever watched some clips of him recking people in debates but didn't watch him regularly. His death and the reactions I saw still felt pretty personal to me though. It was sad to see how much joy people expressed over it. I've seen a lot compare it to how people reacted to George Floyds death (which isn't even a fair comparison) but that was no where near as bad. I didn't express joy from his death more just apathy and some of the memes were funny like George Droid.

all death is funny.

although, i'd prefer it if people were never born in the first place.
https://www.vhemt.org/
take the extinctionpill. return Earth to Mother Gaia.

>>83029180
no zoomers get the rope

>>83028974 (OP)
all of a sudden the faggoty right cares about being proper. hahaha a fucking sloppy pussy

>>83029192
No, I just would prefer all conservative pundits died. I don't care about the voters particularly, like the firefighter Trump said God decided to kill instead of himself.
>>83029194
Okay, so what part of liberal economic/social policy is anti- murder jokes?
>>83029201
Nobody cares, snowflake.

>>83029151
>wishing death on people for being murderers
good
>wishing death on people for politics
bad

>>83029180
>4channers like 4chan
>I'm come here because I'm cool to dunk on you

Dumb nigger. You're just too shitty and niggerish to post anywhere else.

>>83029179
I consider 2014 the bare minimum for being an oldfag these days and many would say that's not old enough.

>>83029224
>Nobody cares, snowflake.
You think this is an epic own but it's not. Left literally can't meme all they do is steal and repackage it into something worse and use it where it doesn't apply. How about address what I said?

>>83029224
>Okay, so what part of liberal economic/social policy is anti- murder jokes?
liberalism presumably has a moral basis-i.e. is it is immoral to prevent sodomites from fornicating, it is immoral to let the poor starve and die. it therefore makes zero sense to behave immorally and call yourself a liberal when your entire ideology is based off the idea that immoral behaviour is bad.

>>83029228
Politics is the vehicle to allow and further state-enacted violence, including murder. Kirk was an important cog in the machine to get Trump elected who is killing innocent people en masse. Do you think pundits just do nothing?
>>83029241
>my feefees were hurt
There's nothing to engage with lol. You need to explain how laughing at the death of a horrible person is le ebil.
>>83029244
So how is joking about the murder of a horrible person immoral? lol

>>83029259
>So how is joking about the murder of a horrible person immoral? lol
because he wasn't horrible and joking about murder is immoral

>>83029264
How is joking about murder immoral?

>>83028982
>Been here since 2007
>libertarian-anarchist (far-left)
As though that was the ONLY faction that was here. It was a crossroads and cauldron of multiple peoples and ideas, namely, anti-corporate overreach, anti-establishment and anti-centralized activists and pro-free-speech. Modern leftism is not that at all, they are pro-censorship, pro-gov internet-IDs and anti-Liberty. The originally leftoids on 4chan were the Wallstreet Protest types whom underground right wing activists also supported. (Then the whole conspiracy of the elites introducing DEI and Intersectionality and Identity Politics to divide and destroy a movement that had both underground political factions aimed at the elites.) The Tumblr exodus in the early 2010s and the 2016 meme-magic brought a fuck ton of tourists here and 4chan was anything BUT leftists before that. Especially considering the sheer amount of ironic Nazi posting and pepe memes, before Stormfront and actual Nazis co-opted those icons and the whole memes of the Kekistanis.

>>83029259
>There's nothing to engage with lol. You need to explain how laughing at the death of a horrible person is le ebil.
The dude went to college campuses and debated people. Why did he deserve to be shot for this? It's peoples right to mock him and his death but it's still cringe. Calling or more death or violence though is more of the problem.

>>83028974 (OP)
I thought the part where he died defending the thing that killed him was extremely funny. HAHAHA. But it gets funnier. The person he spent his adult life trying to get in power doesn't give a singular fuck about his death and his wife is immediately moving on to JD Vance. HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Charlie was a joke of a person and his death was the punchline. Also be was probably offed by Israel, which he spent his crusading for. HAHAHAHAHAHA

>>83029179
are you stupid or just retarded
think about what age you started using ts and then think about whether you were early for your age or not
the niggas who came in in 2020 are still under 20 years old and thus a bunch of retards which is a large portion of most boards btw

>>83029277
Because that anon you're responding to is a disingenuous faggot who thinks debating college students is akin to violence, and then literal leftoids commit said violence, "they cry as they strike you" type psy-op shit.

>>83029275
>2007
A true oldfag I kneel. Been here since 2011 and hate what this place has become this board and /b/ specifically.

>>83029277
>Why did he deserve to be shot for this?
Huge goalpost shift. How is it bad to laugh at the murder of a horrible person? Whether or not he deserved to be shot has nothing to do with anything.
>it's cringe
Massive backpedal lol.
>Calling or more death or violence
If that happened, that'd be illegal and is also hugely different from what anyone ITT is talking about.
>>83029299
He was a propagandist, obviously. If you think they don't contribute to the MAGA movement, you're willfully ignorant. I never said political violence is good, though.

>>83029274
murder is unjust. to joke about injustice is immoral.

>>83029327
>to joke about injustice is immoral
How, though?

>>83029331
idk i think that's a pretty accepted position, it doesn't need to be explained any further

>>83029338
>eh a lot of people say it so it's true
I accept your concession.

>>83029224
>>83029319
>pic
kek I vaguely remember you

>>83029299
NTA
kirk was a 30 something year old man whose job it was to learn how to make people who are 10 years younger than him look stupid for clout on the internet. As a person his age, I find him pathetic.

>>83029275
yeah this is fair. /pol/ fucking sucks but if there was ever anything 'political' about 4chan it was some generally vague tech liberty/anti censorship type stuff. people want to post things online and download anime.

but ideally you outgrow /b/ and move on to some board that's more relevant to your interests. this is still one of the best formats for having discussions online.

>>83029275
>completely leaving out Gamer Gate
You know damn well why Stormfront was here.

>>83029341
that's how belief works, yes. name one moral belief that doesn't work that way

>>83029319
>He was a propagandist, obviously.
Sure, then at that point anyone talking about leftist or rightist politics are propagandists, which in the most technical sense they are. His ideas were more consistent and grounded than any bread-tuber idiots take, especially looking at Destiny and Hasan (that little nepo-baby man-child suckling off of Cenk Ugurs fat sweaty hairy bestiality loving tits). Charlie was literally a copy-pasted Steven Crowder, but far more religious, if not also an extremely watered down copy-paste Ben Shapiro.
>If you think they don't contribute to the MAGA movement, you're willfully ignorant.
Sure, but the same can be said of any-other political pundit humping for their side. The difference was Charlie Kirk was far less bombastic and never called for violence like a lot of leftist commentators and political commentators calling for constant revolution. Lest we forget people tried to assassinate Trump twice.
>>83029349
Refer to above, he sure didn't deserve to be assassinated for it. Also, they're in college, not fucking middle school, that's the point of debating there, adults being trained in higher education.

It;s not edgy jokes that's the problem, it's declaring yourself "the side of empathy and being a Good Fucking Person" when you immediately cheer for murdering the guy whose entire thing was having civil discussions. Or trying to compare killing him in front of his children as the same thing as a fentanyl'd drug addict who pistol whips pregnant women being killed by an overdose.

>>83029349
>kirk was a 30 something year old man whose job it was to learn how to make people who are 10 years younger than him look stupid for clout on the internet. As a person his age, I find him pathetic.

to be fair, imagine if someone offered you that job.

i used to think shit like 'social media manager' was a joke. what, just posting on websites? not even web design or something, literally just posting shit for the company?

at least arguing is fun. we all do it for free, all the time.

>>83029365
Yes he did. As the face of America's hitler youth he got exactly what he deserved and it was done by the people he propagandised for.

>>83029223
Rightoids get all fucking uppity about some random debate bro getting shot as if they don't have a bunch of memes of George Floyd or similar stuff saved.

This fake moralfagging is so tedious

>>83029378
He propagandised for a bloodthirsty ethnostate doing a child holocaust. There is no amount of money you could offer me to intellectually beat up on kids on behalf of Israel.

>>83029350
Yeah, remember Net-Neutrality, and it as fucking shot down and now we have the corpos and government closing in on one of the greatest technologies of freedom of speech and information thanks to using leftoid logic of "speech is violence" type shit and protect the children. Which would be easy enough if parents either gave an interest in their children's activity, or actively having an internet safety class in public education, right alongside financial literacy.
>>83029361
Gamergate was such a clusterfuck and I still haven't done a deep dive into that. I missed that when it happened and only saw the fallout. All I've gathered was that feminist game journo writers were sleeping with devs and influencing the industry. Much like Anita Sarkeesian who grifted her way through the games industry and forced a lot of triple AAA studios into diversifying their teams, and now we come out on the other side of that.

>>83029319
>Huge goalpost shift. How is it bad to laugh at the murder of a horrible person? Whether or not he deserved to be shot has nothing to do with anything.
I don't think I am goalpost shifting here. Look at the specific situation and context maybe then you would understand why this and the reaction to it was bad.

>Whether or not he deserved to be shot has nothing to do with anything.
It literally does actually. If you want or are happy with someone like him being killed in cold blood then you must think they deserve it.

>>83029380
>America's hitler youth
>Believe in God
>Be pro-gun
>Be pro-small gov
You're an idiot. The closest to a Hitler's Youth is fucking Antifa, which they hide behind being anti-fascist but really are pro-communist terrorists, in that anything that is not pro-communist is fascist and their entire fucking grift. Which Antifa funny enough are pretty fuckin racist when behind closed doors.

>>83029411
You have a black hole where your brain should be, or are being paid to be this stupid. I hope they piad you well to say that the closest thing to the fascist your program from Nazi Germany is the anti fascist group. If you said that without being paid to say it, you should go do some soul searching.

>>83029384
Yeah, the difference was George Floyd was a fucking criminal killed by a shitty cop and then riots erupted and black and white folks were grited and vulture-ized out of millions of dollars for some self-proclaimed black communists organizers who went on to buy a bunch of mansions and properties. I can admit the life-long criminal Geroge Floyd didn't deserve to die, but it's not like the dude was living a life that didn't put him in hot water situations. Versus Charlie Kirk sitting at a table and debating people, and if people had a major issue with it, they coulda just walked away and NOT interacted with him. Instead they killed him.

>>83029421
It's become socially acceptable for a lot of people to attack law enforcement and ICE agents btw. Literally just enforcing immigration policy.

I don't understand, why didn't he just dodged the bullet like Trump?

>>83029397
>feminist game journo writers were sleeping with devs and influencing the industry
It wasn't even that the ex bf of a female game dev made a blog post claiming she was sleeping with games journalists for good reviews for her free indie game depression quest. literally just messy breakup drama and /v/ went on an insane moral crusade for some reason.
If they had just ignored Sarkeesian and her ilk none of it would have happened but a girl said video games bad and they lost their collective shit for no reason and made her a bunch of money.

>>83029365
He was a prolific propagandist for a murderous genocidal regime, yeah, of course. I wouldn't say the same thing if he had almost no following as his propaganda wouldn't merit caring about one way or the other. If a prolific left-wing propagandist was murdered and you made jokes about it, it'd be the same thing but the opposite side.
>>83029377
Why would someone not have empathy if they think it's funny a horrible person was killed? I don't think it's 1:1 to George Floyd (obviously Kirk is infinitely worse lol), but higher-ups in Trump's campaign routinely joke about Floyd's murder and zero (0) prominent Democrats who made fun of Kirk's untimely demise.
>>83029407
It's hilarious that Kirk died, but obviously we can't have assassins killing political pundits. I don't see the contradiction. Can you spell it out for me?
He was literally getting btfo'd about a gun violence stat he constantly lies about, hard pivots to a completely different argument, then gets shot in the neck and stumbles over in a funny way. He constantly justified gun laws that led to his death. He constantly said school shootings were basically fine so we could keep the 2nd amendment fully in-tact and died in a school shooting. You don't even have to know who he is for the video of his death to simply look funny. Your fragility is incredibly clear and one-sided lol.
>>83029437
God saved Trump to kill a fire fighter father and Charlie Kirk, apparently.

>>83029444
>obviously Kirk is infinitely worse lol
stopped reading there also you're a yuritroon - you will NEVER EVER be a woman

>>83029421
Fighting an imaginary boogeyman as an excuse to be a violent authoritarian paramilitary group sounds a lot like Hitler youth anon-sama

>>83028974 (OP)
Tired of winning already? Go back to /b/ retard

>>83029421
Yes, 10,000 social credit points are being deposited into my account, you idiot. Lol, and guess what, Antifa and the far-left are currently far more adjacent to fascism than they'd like to realize. Execute your political opponents, violence, intimidation, canceling, blackout gear, burning down neighborhoods, etc. Apparently being far-right by leftists standards are being pro-gun and anti-mass-immigration. So you can step off and reevaluate as the overton window shifts farther to the extreme of the left and then realize their might be something to the overlap of horse-shoe theory. And to reiterate, Antifa is a PRO-COMMUNIST MOVEMENT, their whole shtick is, if the society is moving into a pro-communist direction, anything and everything is fascism.

>>83029436
Violence against fascists is always justified

>>83029458
>muh imaginary fascists

>>83029458
Define fascism that isn't vague, or are you going to use the culturally shifting definition of fascism to dodge any real concrete definition.
Btw, here's an actual deep dive into fascism from a leftist:
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zSrSbyFXsMo

>>83029456
Being anti fascist means you're communist? B-B-BASED. I hope the communists win and put the fascists into stalin style gulags. Then the fascists will finally make a contribution to society. Mamdami is gunna woke-shariah you.

>>83029444
What wasted trips damn man.

>Is fine with gun violence and school shootings
You're not even trying that hard if this is bait. He just basically said it's worth accepting that some crazy retards will crash out but it's worth accepting the risk so individuals can have their gun rights. This doesn't mean he is "fine" with school shootings. Most gun owners aren't going on a crazy fucking rampage either so you have no point here. How about we just ban humans from literally being alive because there is too much danger?

>>83029465
Fascism is ultra nationalism with an elemental of ethno supremacism that differentiates it from other forms of nationalism or generic authoritarianism. MAGA is rounding up brown people and dismantling democracy and this fits my definition of fascism

>>83029430
That's beside the point OP said leftists think murder is funny but if you laugh at another murder you are just a hypocrite acting like it's beyond the pale to laugh at somebodies death like they weren't doing the exact same thing.

Not that anyone cares about being a hypocrite these days but whatever

>>83029449
Lycoris Recoil isn't yuri. I am a cis man, also.
>>83029455
Don't you dare make fun of our fallen MIGA patriot.
>>83029468
That's why I said "basically fine". I didn't say most gun owners were on a crazy gun rampage lol. He wanted gun ownership to be incredibly easy even if you're insane, you can give your gun off to insane people, etc., and that principle led to his death. I didn't even say I disagreed with this idea.
So can you explain the contradiction in finding his death funny but also believing we can't have assassins going willy nilly?
>>83029480
Show me 10 examples of leftists saying laughing at any murder is bad.

>>83029478
>MAGA is rounding up brown people and dismantling democracy and this fits my definition of fascism
But they are illegal so what's the problem? Do you just not view "America" or really any country you live in that's somewhat comfortable as your own house? Do you not relate to the common man that was born and bred there? They broke the law and they gotta go bruh.

>>83029466
Fascism and communism have more incommon than you'd like to admit. Lest we forget Stalin killed millions of innocents of his own people and you praise that, not to mention the purity spiraling of communism.
>Mamdami is gunna woke-shariah you.
The irony is that shariah is anti-woke and religious jihad on any non-conforming Islamic governments, and the Islamists loved fascism, namely Hitler because he hated the juice. Which is something leftists are going to have to contend with since they are in bed with essentially a religious movement that wants to undermine them.
>>83029478
Go watch the video and then come back. Also, NOT allowing mass immigration is somehow fascistic when non-Western countries, especially China, and North Korea fit the bill far FAR closer to fascism than any western state, especially North Korea being the closest to a modern fascistic state. The fact, in-fact, that the west has allowed any mass immigration shows it wasn't fascistic, especially considering the countries that the mass immigration is coming from vice versa are extremely ethno-nationalist.

>>83029506
>But they are illegal
Mosquito brain take. There is no due process, people are being rounded up and deported before they get a chance to prove otherwise to a judge.
>I decree you are an illegal
>You are deported
>You have no recourse to prove you weren't illegal because are in South Sudan
Do you not see a problem with this?

>>83028990
>all of the sincere responses to this post

>>83029499
>So can you explain the contradiction in finding his death funny but also believing we can't have assassins going willy nilly?
I don't see what contradiction I made. Finding it funny is just bad. It literally does not matter if he was a nazi or whatever he just wanted to debate people. You people literally worship death and destruction it's disgusting. I just wanna grill bro.

>>83029509
As a loud and proud communist I already know what my mortal enemies (the fascists) believe and stand for. I know I have nothing in common with them and want the exact opposite of what they do, thank you.

>>83029519
Apparently the government can find and identify whoever they want when they want or have them killed but are somehow incapable of figuring out if someone is illegally in the country or pretending to be. Very interesting how that works desu wow.

>>83029528
>WE NEED TO BOMB VENEZUELA I JUST WANTED TO HECKIN GRILL
lol. How is finding his death funny bad? Explain it.

>>83029543
https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/us-citizens-ice-arrests-detentions-9.6960504
Why would you say something that could be shown to be absurd with a single Google search? They have deported US citizens and attacked veterans and we know this

>>83029548
That's not what I said though. Maybe you need to take your meds. Did you forget we we're talking about the cold blooded murder of Charlie Kirk?

>>83029478
more specifically it is taking a portion of the nations population that you determine undesirable for whatever reason and enslaving and liquidating them illegal migrants are used because Americans are so interbred that racial purity isn't feasible.

people like>>83029506 think that they are going to save the jobs or whatever but these migrants will be put to work as prison labor for large corporations undercutting the wages of Americans far more that they were before.

>>83029566
>Finding it funny is just bad
What does "it" refer to here?

>>83029528
>I just wanna grill bro
Well here's your problem. Kirk was a Christian Nationalist, that means aggressively wanting to impose your politics on others. It does not mean "letting people grill". He did not just want to debate people. Go ask who's going to pay you $12M dollars if you're not serving some kind of agenda. That's not how the world works.

>>83028974 (OP)
The most profound take to this event I've ever heard was this:
The assassin was responsible for change, not Charlie Kirk. If he were still alive, nothing would have changed. He got domed, and political rhetoric has calmed. Even this thread isn't as vicious as before any other political or social event prior. Every public figure said they'd amp up their rage, but then, all of them chilled the fuck out. It's an uncomfortable thought, but it's an observable fact.

>>83029539
>Kill your political opponents
>Silence dissent
>Purity and struggle sessions
>The state is the ultimate entity
Yeah, if you actually read about fascism and communism, especially communism past it being a cool counter-cultural movement that has never worked anywhere then maybe you'd be less inclined to be pro-communist, especially the sheer amount of innocents being offed. Especially the gulags which killed millions of innocents in Siberian death camps because the poor farmers kept a single sack of wheat for themselves instead of giving it to the glorious leader and state so the city slickers who didn't produce foundation economic goods could eat. Hence why Ukraine and Poland aren't really keen on living through that again with Putin. Not to mention Marx was a larping intellectual begger who lived off of his friends good-will that led to some of the largest offing of human life in history. And mind you, I hate fascists as well, they're the same purity spiraling, anti-dissent, anti-freedom freaks as the communists.

>>83029565
Ok and if that's true then that's bad no shit nigga. I also didn't like they we're trying to or have deported people on visas in colleges that we're anti Israel. I guess we just just throw away all laws and boarders and shit then because the government isn't perfect. Illegals need to go period having strong boarders should be obvious but I guess it's not for a scary amount of people.

>>83029571
That is sort of what I meant with ethno supremacism. One ethnicity or race is supreme over another or others which manifests as slavery, apartheid or genocide. It is an ideology which should have no place I the world.

>>83029574
Cold blooded murder. It's kinda simple anon.

>>83029584
He was killed by a chaser, not the left. And Kirk did advocate violence and speak hate against trans people, just to be sure. Play in dirt, you get dirty. Why would you feel bad for that kind of person. He made that choice for himself, and he did it for money. There's risks to that.

>>83029539
>>83029584
Oh, and I forgot to mention, both communists and fascists, LOVE putting political dissenters and state-nay-sayers in camps and putting them against the wall. Meanwhile democracy debates, especially Classical Liberalism.

>>83028974 (OP)
That fountain is unironically cool and I hope Charlie would approve of it if he could. I want mine to have a red wine faucet if I get killed the same way.

>>83029595
So how is finding Kirk's murder funny bad?

>>83029575
>Christian Nationalist
Ok and I don't agree with this. I more align with Christianity but I don't think it should be enforced. This is fucking America and we have the 1st amendment. Oh wait I disagreed with him on some things so now I have to shoot him ahhhhhh that's how it works right.

>>83029528
Low IQ take, plenty of people are deserving of death. Osama Bin Laden's opinions were just opinions, bro. His opinions just instructed people to fly into towers. His instructions were just words.
Charlie Kirk, whether he portrayed himself as rational or not, was a Christian Nationalist, and by definition they wish to impose Christian ideals on the state. That's barbaric as fuck. That's why he got killed, just for being annoying. His ideas were dangerous. If you were smart, you'd know the value in restricting ideas that just regress a society.

>>83029603
He probably would've desuwa. Kirk enjoyed the South Park episode ripping into him that somehow offended a lot of conservatives.
From hell, he's probably disgusted by the woke right's response and is enjoying his wife getting railed by the VP right now.

>>83029604
>How is finding cold blooded murder bad
Really nigga? If you're baiting then it's really showing now.

>>83029611
>This is fucking America and we have the 1st amendment.
They hate freedom anon. You don't know anything about these people.
>i just want to grill
>trannies should be dealt with the way we did in the 1950s and 60s
Which one sounds more like Charlie Kirk to you?

>>83029618
If it's so obvious, go on and explain it.

>>83029600
>Talk against the trans movement
>Speech is violence
>Kill your opponents if they speak against the trans movement
Really not making the trans movement seem anymore crazy than it already is.

>>83029588
Well get ready anon because American capitalism is failing the entire economy is balanced on top op an AI/Crypto bubble once it pops shit hits the fan and fascism is capitals only response to that kind of crisis.
The bloated and ineffectual military industrial complex is losing its ability to project force overseas the only option will be to turn it inward colonialism will come home and the drones that flew over the middle east will be dropping hellfire missiles very close to home or in it soon enough

>>83029633
Look at the Rwanda genocide.
>this ethnic group are cockroaches
>the should be dealt with using machetes
>i'm just asking questions
>why is the international community so intolerant of my free speech?

>>83029613
Christian Ideals aren't so bad actually. I don't personally follow everything in the faith but honestly the 10 commandments are a good system. I don't think it should be enforced though and we already have separation of church and state and the first amendment which allows freedom of religion. Unironically find Jesus nigga you need him for your nihilistic ass.

>>83029647
What call to violence to Kirk make? If he did then I wouldn't agree with it. The only time a call to violence should happen is against other calls to violence or violence already happening.

>>83029648
>we already have separation of church and state
The whole point of Christian Nationalism is removing this separation. Look at what they have to say about teaching evolution in schools.

>>83029632
Do you think cold blooded murder is bad? Yes or no and why? Stop avoiding this anon. If you want people to die for opinions just say so and we can end this yaknow.

>>83029657
Murder is bad. How is laughing about someone's murder bad, though?

>>83029653
>If he did then I wouldn't agree with it.
You'd make up some other rationalization or just shift goalposts. Anons like you are inherently dishonest and disingenuous. So was Kirk.

>>83029224
If kirk deserves to die for thinking that killing babies is bad, gun rights are good, and that chopping off your penis will not make you a woman, then you would absolutely want me and people like me dead. And I make Kirk look like a leftist.

You will never be a woman. You will die alone and childless.

>>83029647
Yes, because people being against the trans movement is going to lead to mass genocide of trans people akin to thw Rwandan genocide (which Africa has been in a constant state of warlord fluxs, but somehow that translates to this). The original gay movement has more of an inheritance to that claim than the trans community actually does, since gays were killed off in WAY larger numbers historically and persecuted as much, especially my favorite painter in the American realm, J. C. Leyendecker. The problem is if the trans movement fucked off of trying to convert kids with hormone therapy there wouldn't be any discussion, and it would probably benefit the trans community. Especially since feminists are poised hard against the trans community as well.
>>83029667
Not that anon, but you can also be dishonest and disingenuous to say speech is violence and justify a killing like that, so the opposite can be used against you quickly enough, which sure is gonna hurt the trans community long term.

>>83029666
>How is laughing about someone's murder bad, though?
>666 trips
Fucking eerie. Anyway I just think it's not healthy to be laughing about death especially to the undeserving. He didn't do anything worthy of such "justice" if you would call it. You're treating life as if it's a rekt thread nigga. Are you ever happy? What makes you fucking happy? Seeing someone's neck get blown through by a bullet? Is that it?

>>83029384
Don't do this both sides shit. Floyd was some career criminal whose overdose caused our entire fucking country to get burned down to shit. Kirk's death was very personal, and not only was it personal, but the run up to it with the hysterics and violent rhetoric and the self-fellating about it being justified and that it should happen more is mortifying.

>>83029657
You regularly killed women and minorities throughout your history but now you want people to act civilized after you got your privilege and stole everything lol

>>83029648
I don't really think I'm nihilistic. Separation of church and state is a precedent, not a guarantee, and people like Charlie Kirk wanted it destroyed. I'm not sure if you're aware, but our culture is already doing the best at all of the issues Kirk brought up. The youngest generations shame belligerent retards, they shame people for separating, they shame people for having shitty partners, they drink the least, they're the most health conscious, and they're the most well informed. You should stop listening to old people who can't keep up, they're the ones constantly afraid of black people, atheists, gays, trends, and technology. If you want to join them, keep tuning in to the "wise," withered and aged old men.

>>83029693
You aren't even trying with this one desu. No one serious actually believes this btw. I didn't do anything actually.

>>83028974 (OP)
This
>>83029280
He literally died protecting something that could had been prevented. The NRA and Kirk wants people to believe brown people are only committing the crimes putting Americans in danger, when, surprise surprise, white far right men are just as dangerous. Charlie also said a "few gun deaths" are okay as long as people have guns. Charlie wouldn't give a shit if you died, why care now? Especially when MAGA had been threatening people and made fun of people's misfortune.

>>83029654
Do you understand that schools are already and have been beyond fucked regardless of this? Did you go to fucking school nigga? I did and the shit sucked both private Catholic and public.

>>83028974 (OP)
i couldnt care less about kike sponsored cuckservative

>>83029693
I feel bad for the Eastern European immigrants in the US that have to put up with white privilege bullshit

>>83029677
I am a cis man. Why does anime on an anime website trigger you? lol. Also, the voters are just products of propaganda. You, as an individual, don't matter at all, especially if you're ultra far-right.
>>83029683
>it's obviously bad lol
>...
>it's just not healthy
lol. How many people do you think will die from Trump's medicaid cuts, USAID cuts, our assistance in the Gaza genocide, and the bombing of innocents in coastal waters in the Caribbean while we prepare for land strikes? Anything but a direct numeric estimation I'll take as a concession. Kirk acted as a key propagandist to enact all this.

>>83029681
Not Kirk's argument in the slightest. Quote time
>Charlie Kirk made numerous statements opposing transgender rights, often using extreme and inflammatory language. He referred to transgender people as a "throbbing middle finger to God" and an "abomination," citing a Bible verse that labels cross-dressing as an "abomination". He described transgender identities as a "destructive social contagion" and called gender-affirming care for young people an "unimaginable evil".
> Kirk also claimed that transgenderism was a "mental delusion" and that "cis" was a slur. He advocated for physical and political violence against transgender individuals, suggesting that men should "take care of" transgender people "like we did in the 1950s and 60s," a statement widely interpreted as a reference to lynching. In 2024, he called for a "Nuremberg-style trial" for every doctor performing gender-affirming care, comparing them to Nazi war criminals.
>Kirk further claimed that transgender people were responsible for the "decline of American men" and blamed them for societal problems.
He also promoted conspiracy theories linking transgender people to mass shootings, stating that "too many" transgender people were involved in such incidents just moments before he was shot. He has also advocated for the destruction of public Pride displays, suggesting it should be legal to burn rainbow or Black Lives Matter flags.
So basically he's a /pol/tard who somehow managed to get taken seriously, and got himself killed by someone who took his retarded hot takes seriously. No wonder rightoids are desperate to blame this on the left. Because otherwise, Kirk just looks like a slimy ignorant bully who got himself killed for nothing, which is what actually happened.

>>83029667
I have been open and honest the whole thread. Literally in my first post I said I never really watched the guy besides clips of him btfoing lefty faggots so you can't accuse me of being dishonest because I haven't watched enough of him. I guess you have more than me apparently.

>>83029715
You mean the thing that could have been prevented by being a gun free campus with a shooter who didn't have a permit to carry the gun he stole to commit murder?

>>83029708
>N-no u

I accept your defeat

>>83029444
>He was a prolific propagandist for a murderous genocidal regime, yeah, of course.
If Kirk deserves death, then Palestinians deserve genocide.
>Floyd's murder
Don't lie about this, shitstain.
>He constantly justified gun laws that led to his death.
You people are so spineless and desperate to curb away accountability. Instead of insane communists and leftists being the fault of this, it's the gun rights activists. I am constantly told that no one wants to take my AR15 while also being told that gun control would have saved Kirk when he was killed in a gun free zone with a hunting rifle.
>He constantly said school shootings were basically fine so we could keep the 2nd amendment fully in-tact and died in a school shooting.
He said that gun deaths were inevitable in a society with gun ownership, you tranny freak.

>>83029727
>noooooo he just want to grill
Rightoids on this site are bigger faggots that /lgbt/.

>>83029731
Do you think the only type of gun control are "gun-free zones"? If so, your argument makes sense, but I'm afraid you're severely mentally handicapped.

>>83029727
>who got himself killed for nothing, which is what actually happened.

horey sheeeit

>>83029499
>He wanted gun ownership to be incredibly easy even if you're insane, you can give your gun off to insane people, etc., and that principle led to his death. I didn't even say I disagreed with this idea.

You people not being put in camps is why he's dead. He tried to reach out to insane communists who want to kill you for thinking white people aren't evil.

>>83029732
The worst part about this is the white man who posted this.

>>83029729
>i can't be dishonest because my opinions are not grounded on any knowledge whatsoever
Anon. Seriously. Are you ok?

>>83029742
I suppose he milked a lot of money out of rightoid donors first. That's his legacy

>>83029727
You will never be a woman. Cave to your desires and end it all.

>>83029724
Your assuming that I care or am happy about those things anon. I'm not gonna get into some Trump argument with you because I mostly do not care what happens on the other side of the Earth only America and Americans like Kirk was. The fuck does it matter he's a propogandist? Should I be calling for the death of Hassan then? I think he should be banned on Twitch based on their own TOS but that's about it.

>>83029763
You will never win an honest argument
Back to /pol/ where you belong with the rest of the red-pilled boomer uncs. Bye now

>>83029776
Nigger, I'm 19. And Kirk was wrong on everything but trannies.

>>83029768
>I think he should be banned on Twitch based on their own TOS but that's about it
Sure. But if someone pops Hasan because of dumb hot takes, are you going to cry about it. That's a risk when you gum flap

If a person is indirectly responsible for a rise in hate crimes through their publications, can they be held liable? If they die and those hate crimes reduce, is their death justified?

If political rhetoric is now just as senile as this debate, and its been two months and literally nobody is thinking about Charlie Kirk but this thread... uh... did the assassin win, or Charlie?

>>83029727
>He has also advocated for the destruction of public Pride displays, suggesting it should be legal to burn rainbow or Black Lives Matter flags.
Ok and? I don't agree with destroying property unless you own it this is a no brainer.

Imagine thinking this is what really matters. A fucking rainbow on a street being defaced and burning a flag that you own. Holy shit get a grip man.

>>83029731
Kirk literally got shot over a 100 Meter radius. No gun was going to protect him regardless. Even JFK got smoked with 4 body guards protecting him.

>>83029732
>you shoplifted once in the past
>therefore you should let me mug you and steal your shit

>>83029732
>why don't you go back to your countries
>posts our countries
idgi

>>83029727
Lol, link the videos then, because some of that is objectively true. Transgenderism is a mental delusion, you cannot change your gender, full stop. And cis is used as a slur in the lgbtq community, especially the trans community, full stop. Gender-affirming care for children is wrong, and that has been spelt out by the NUMEROUS reports thereafter of regret and suicide and especially the hidden results of John Money's transgender experiments on children that actually undermines his case that being male and female are simply social constructs. Children shouldn't be encouraged to be given gender-affirming care, as spelt out in the aftermath of John Money's experiments.
>destruction of public Pride displays, suggesting it should be legal to burn rainbow or Black Lives
And yet burning the US flag is fair game. Which brings into question, not to mention BLM was literally a money grabbing scheme and still is, hence why that movement is all but dead, especially for the black community who realized they had been bamboozled.
The rest I'll take your word for, but that still doesn't justify murder. Especially some of the wild shit the trans community says in the background and underground about cis and women. Hell, you have people in here advocating killing people who are against the trans community.

>>83029734
I didn't say he deserved to be shot anywhere ITT.
>it's the gun rights activists
It's both, obviously. Gun laws in most of the US allow insane people to get access to guns, and they can kill then whoever they want and do at far higher rates than any other developed country. But that requires the gun laws to be loose and the insane person to do an insane act.
>He said that gun deaths were inevitable in a society with gun ownership
No, he literally didn't, lol.
>>83029744
What are you talking about? lol
>>83029768
Even if you hated everything Trump has done, I'm literally talking about what Kirk helped enact. I'm not saying you love the US engaging in countless murderous/genocidal adventures, but Kirk sure did. I didn't call for the death of anyone. Propagandists are a key aspect of how politics functions. You need the propaganda to get the voters to tolerate, vote for, and enjoy the horrific things your regime does/plans to do, and Kirk delivered it extremely effectively until his last breath.

If only there were actual libertarians left who value liberty and freedom. USA has turned into liberty for me but not for thee. Which ends up liberty for no one. Just too stupid to realize it

>>83029752
The point that he didn't deserve to die and mocking it is bad still stands.

>>83029734
>>83029795
>No, he literally didn't, lol.
See pic related

>>83029785
No I'm not but I'm not gonna celebrate it either. If it was up to me he wouldn't be banned neither would a lot of people online for their views.

>>83029782
>>83029788
>>83029794
>>83029797
Thanks for the (you)s
Mask off, thanks for playing milquetoast conservatives. Better luck next time

>>83029802
>Tips fedora
See you back at reddit

Imagine coming to literal 4chan and being a pearl-clutching sensitive faggot.

>>83028974 (OP)
you fags are so disingenuous
righties constantly laugh at blacks, trannies, whatever when they die
but one smarmy loser gets shot in the neck and suddenly you're the good guys who never wished harm on anyone

>>83029692
lmao fake moralfagging you laugh as one is murdered and cry crocodile tears when another is. Rightoid Israel worshipping cucks have done far more harm to America that some random guy using a fake $20.

It's funny because the reason the right got so butthurt about a youtuber getting shot is because they never thought the violence they spread throughout the world would come back to bite them in the neck. America is full of guns and non stop political panic mongering talking heads this was bound to happen and will continue to happen. When a left wing political commentator gets shot you will be laughing and memeing just the same even if Kirk wasn't shot you would do it because everyone does.

>>83029814
Which death is more justifiable to laugh at a violent criminal with a huge rap sheet or someone that just spouts their edgy opinions?

>>83029827
both, and you don't realize how you, pleb, are equally as distant on the social hierarchy from charlie kirk as you are from a crackhead, and that's the ultimate irony of your question
neither of the above are "your" guys

>>83029795
>Propagandists are a key aspect of how politics functions
Sooooo if someone isn't breaking the law and their speech is offensive they now have to die or it's ok for them to be murdered? Gotcha I get it now man.

>>83029795
>>83029798
This is a profound moment that you'll learn nothing from because you live in an echochamber. I've never seen a leftist quote him verbatim.
>>83029802
I'm not a milquetoast conservative, and I never was. And it's fucked to see a milquetoast conservative getting brutally murdererd to the jeer and mockery of internet prostitutes, trannies, and shitskins who want more blood as a radical desu. I never liked him at all. But I realized that there's more bigger fish to fry than.

>>83029798
Not that anon, but he's not wrong, he's objectively right. No matter how hard you clamp down on gun control, criminals don't care, there will be criminal activity and there WILL BE criminals who get their hands on guns, if not guns, knives like in the UK where instead of getting shot, you get stabbed to death. Even in high trust, 1st world countries, no matter what you do, it's part of the human condition that there will be criminals. And criminals don't follow the law, law-abiding citizens do, the theory being that armed citizens are better than unarmed citizens. Especially with a hands off approach towards the second amendment which is more-so anti-government tyranny at it's foundation, is that citizens should be able to own weapons. "The right to bear arms (weapons, the current modus of weapon in the current time)" since disingenuous idiots like to point to, "Well um, what about muskets", it mentions arms, weapons, and the current weapons of the time were muskets.

>>83029817
>it is what it is so it's ok
Grow up.

>>83029827
He was still an American citizen that was unjustly killed by a crooked cop. Nobody seriously believe Floyd was a saint, but allowing police brutality wasn't the goal, especially during the time when people didn't trust cops in general.

>>83029844
Really what this shows is communists and the trans community are bloodthirsty and willing to kill people if they dissent against their ideas because they'll pretend it'll lead to genocide, "cry as they strike you".

>>83029837
Those are not equal whatsoever. I said earlier in the thread it's bad to be laughing at and celebrating death and it's equal in that sense but one is still worse than the other. Do you really not understand how to scale evil?

>>83029839
No, I personally believe Kirk deserved to die, but that doesn't mean someone should've went out and killed him. We can't have vigilantes going out and killing people without due process. I would like another set of Nuremberg trials, essentially, ideally.
It has literally nothing whatsoever to do with speech being offensive, though, lol. You simply can't read and/or don't want to engage at all honestly.
>>83029844
That is a verbatim quote, lol. Tons of people were doxx'd for quoting Kirk's worst quotes after he died.
>>83029848
Yeah it's completely impossible to reduce gun violence, especially when the US is the only developed country with this problem.

>>83029848
Except in the UK, knife violence isn't as horrible as gun violence in America. If guns are allowed in England, then the criminals will get more of a hold of them. You can't kill somebody with a knife 50 meters away from you.

>>83029814
Leftists are far more likely to endorse political violence and wish harm on their enemies. Reminder when Biden got prostate cancer? And he's not even right wing.
>>83029817
I'm not fake moralfagging. I knew who Kirk was for over five years and seeing him get killed in the middle of a debate is completely fucked. I'm not pretending. Don't tell me about who has done more harm to America. If it weren't for our liberal political faction, America would be 90%+ white. Blaming guns and not the communist redditard who killed him. Go fuck yourself.

>When a left wing political commentator gets shot you will be laughing and memeing just the same even if Kirk wasn't shot you would do it because everyone does.

I never wished violence on left-wing political commentors except for extreme rabble rousers who do the same. But after Kirk died, I can't say the same thing. I've learned my lesson. Kirk died a month after faggots like David Pakman were gloating about Christian kids getting killed by a tranny in a school shooting. You deserve the worst.

>>83029861
Also shit like this has been happening a long time. Dishonest rightoids are allergic to context.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1fbjpVaofqI

>>83029867
It's equally as fucked that a guy "just doing his job" choked out a low-life over a fake bill, as Charlie Kirk getting domed for spreading conspiracy theories and prodding the anxieties of Christian conservatives. It was all pointless. That's the point. Charlie Kirk died for... being provocative. That's why rhetoric by public figures chilled. Everyone learned. Look, it's not Kirk's memory that is fixing the world.

>>83029852
Not my point but I didn't expect a solid rebuttal from you so its fine.
When someone murders Hasan or whoever live on stream you WILL laugh and make memes and act justified in doing so this entire site will be covered memes about it. Is that good? No. But you and your kind WILL do it the will be no decorum or moralizing and calls to end political violence.

Stop pretending you have any kind of moral high ground you don't and never have.

>>83029873
>I would like another set of Nuremberg trials, essentially, ideally.
Lmao for fucking who? People like Kirk? You are delusional if that's the case. I get it government corrupt yada yada but the only real power he had was speech. Faggots like you want everything to be reddit when it should be how we are discussing things now.

>>83029873
>That is a verbatim quote, lol. Tons of people were doxx'd for quoting Kirk's worst quotes after he died.

Kirk saying school shootings were necessary is not a verbatim quote, tranny. He quite literally said that gun deaths were an unavoidable consequence of gun ownership, and that a perfect society is unttainable.
>Yeah it's completely impossible to reduce gun violence, especially when the US is the only developed country with this problem.

Your solution is to defang the populace as opposed to punishing violent criminals and locking away insane trannies and tranny chasers.

>>83029873
>>83029876
You're not getting rid of guns and the argument to stop crime and shootings isn't gonna stop violence.
>>83029876
>You can't kill somebody with a knife 50 meters away from you.
Yet in the UK a guy stabbed 10 people on a train. If you wanna talk about reducing the capacity for maximum damage, they'd make a bomb which is easier to do than buying a gun in UK. As for the UK, they also live under a pretty heavy surveillance state too.
>>83029873
>Yeah it's completely impossible to reduce gun violence, especially when the US is the only developed country with this problem.
Yeah, guess which community commits those numbers the most, and it's mostly done with pistols against their own community, not long-rifles. But America sensationalizes these events because the news is more about shock and entertainment value than it is about objective reporting. Btw, the most "mass shootings" happen usually in those certain communities but aren't reported in on the news.

>>83029885
Are you even an American?

>>83029878
>If it weren't for our liberal political faction, America would be 90%+ white
Back to fucking /pol/, anon. You make me fucking sick.

>>83029861
Bro they were burning down the country with their fiery but mostly peaceful riots over this it was ridiculous. I don't say this to minimize any unjust treatment but take a step back and really ask yourself who was more valuable and a safe person to be around Kirk or Floyd.

>>83029905
I am, and I actually go outside, the world is unironically more peaceful since he got domed, everyone busts out the word retard, nobody brought him up a week after his death, and i hear people vocalize their extremist views less

>>83029895
What do you think propagandists do? Genuinely curious. Do you think they're paid 8-9 figures regularly to effect nothing? Idk if you're the same anon, but I listed all the murderous/genocidal actions of Trump in 2025 a few replies back.
>>83029898
Necessary <=> unavoidable, obviously.
I didn't offer any solutions to the gun violence issue. That's a completely separate discussion.
>>83029903
I agree we're not getting rid of guns, which is why neither party takes it seriously at all. We've accepted any insane person can kill anyone in America as long as they have a sight line and the right planning.

>>83029892
But I wont. I agree yeah people who I would normally align with will but I wont. It is BAD fucking duh nigga.

>>83029898
>. He quite literally said that gun deaths were an unavoidable consequence of gun ownership, and that a perfect society is unttainable.

That completely different from what he originally said. Also, it completely ignores that the US has a toxic gun culture. Stricter gun laws can fix that.

>>83029882
Good find, anon
>*daps*

>>83029905
Forgot to add: I can make fun of horse-faced trannies behind their back while using their pronouns to their face, and about the extremist views, yeah, the majority of people who whisper "look at those fags over there..." have finally learned, nobody gives a fuck or wants to hear it. It's not that deep.

>>83029919
>Literally insane babbling
>and i hear people vocalize their extremist views less
Meanwhile the trans community is further radicalized to kill dissenters.
Really gets the noggin a joggin for who's the violent one's here and makes a stronger case to look at certain communities a little deeper and a little harder by the state.

>>83029919
>i hear people vocalize their extremist views less
I can't believe the audacity of this anon. I really can't after what he's been saying.

>>83029921
>We've accepted any insane person can kill anyone in America as long as they have a sight line and the right planning.
>I just say bombastic shit to get (you)s
As though there aren't consequences for murder and needing strong justification for castle doctrine laws.

>>83029930
they were wide examples to show you it's actually really dope outside, go talk to people, they are a lot cooler since a year ago dawg
best of luck, virgin

>>83029878
>I never wished violence on left-wing political commentors except for extreme rabble rousers who do the same.
So you did wish for violence then and are a hypocrite. Kirk was an extreme rabble rouser and an Israel worshipper.

>>83029939
I sure don't wanna talk to the weirdos you hang with if they cheer the death of a debater that they could easily defeat by NOT interacting with them at their stall at a college campus. I'd rather chill with people who don't wanna kill people, thank you very much.

>>83029132
They are motivated by social shaming and shunning. Fearing being ousted by the group is what activates their almonds, so they assume you just haven't been shamed or bullied enough.
They're not really sentient.

>>83029921
>What do you think propagandists do? Genuinely curious. Do you think they're paid 8-9 figures regularly to effect nothing? Idk if you're the same anon, but I listed all the murderous/genocidal actions of Trump in 2025 a few replies back.
Fun, money, ideological possession (which you are under) or some combination of that. Ok wooow they are influencing people with their speech kinda the whole point of debate yaknow.

>>83029941
>except for extreme rabble rousers who do the same.
Do you know what violent speech is or is just
>anything that offended me

>>83029903
>You're not getting rid of guns and the argument to stop crime and shootings isn't gonna stop violence.
I never said stop violence or getting rid of guns. I think having a gun can come in handy, but time and time again, American'ts have proved that not everyone deserves guns. Less gun casualties will benefit everyone.

>>83029903
>Yet in the UK a guy stabbed 10 people on a train
Las Vegas shooter killed 60 people and injured 400 people.
What's your point?

>>83029950
i'm not celebrating his death im just observing the change :p the cultural staying power of his assassination is... yo... it's so fucked up he got killed... we should maybe like... not incite more problems...
but yeah as a serious take, charlie kirk wasn't the best pick, i wish it never happened to anyone, etc

>>83029912
Why does a 90% White america make you sick?
>>83029919
>>83029927
Thinking that making fun of trannies is deserving of being brutally murdered is why people hate you and is why you need to be expunged from society. Dylan and eric would be trannies today.
>>83029941
Yeah, for shitstains like Hasan and Destiny who vocally endorse political violence without reprecussions. Kirk never said anything about the reckoning where liberals get genocided or let the street run with jewish blood or something.

Rabblerousing for you is being made fun of for being a disgusting man in a dress.

>>83029812
Seriously why is everyone so fucking gay now I have seen hundreds of videos of people dying here in far more gruesome ways than Kirk. Bitches pretend like there aren't multiple rekt threads up right now

>>83029914
>Bro they were burning down the country with their fiery but mostly peaceful riots over this it was ridiculous

Why do Chuds want us to forget that Jan 6 happened?

>>83029972
You're saying that it's his fault so he deserved it and not the insane leftist responsible. You should be face down in a ditch. You should have been shoved in more lockers, freak.

>>83029936
"right planning" assumes you're not just going into someone's house. I mean in both Tyler's and Luigi's cases, they basically made no attempt to escape the FBI and just hung out until they got caught. But in most cases you'd have to accept your life is over at that point.
>>83029952
What part don't you understand? Effective prolific propagandists like Kirk help enact the administration they're supporting, and the MAGA admin is incredibly murderous and genocidal. Obviously he had immense power which is why his death shook the country, at least for like a week.

>>83029950
Kirk was not a debater, he was a political operative. I don't know why you're even still pushing this. The word's out.
>Charlie Kirk became a central figure in promoting the Seven Mountains Mandate, a Christian nationalist movement that seeks to establish Christian dominion over seven key areas of society: government, education, media, religion, family, business, and entertainment. Although Kirk never used the exact phrase "seven-mountain mandate," he publicly endorsed its core concept in a 2020 speech at the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), declaring, "Finally we have a president that understands the seven mountains of cultural influence," referring to Donald Trump.
>Kirk's organization, Turning Point USA (TPUSA), evolved into a major vehicle for advancing this agenda. By 2020, TPUSA had adopted the Seven Mountains framework as a strategic blueprint for cultural influence, expanding its efforts beyond campus activism into faith-based political mobilization. This shift was influenced by figures like Rob McCoy of Godspeak Calvary Chapel and Lance Wallnau, a self-proclaimed prophet and leading voice in the dominionist movement, whom Kirk called "one of my all-time favorite people" and frequently interviewed.
>In 2021, Kirk launched Turning Point Faith, a branch dedicated to organizing evangelical pastors and churches around this vision, hosting conferences that encouraged clergy to preach far-right politics from the pulpit. The initiative aimed to recruit 1,000 evangelical ministers to run for political office, further embedding the Seven Mountains ideology into American governance. Kirk also promoted a Christian nationalist view of American history, arguing that the U.S. was founded as a Protestant nation and requires a Christian populace to function properly.

>>83029978
>Thinking that making fun of trannies is deserving of being brutally murdered is why people hate you and is why you need to be expunged from society
That's not the full extent of what I believe Charlie Kirk contributed to. I really don't think any sort of puritan or Christian dogma is a good thing to live by, by the letter. Eugh, how sheepish.
>Dylan and eric would be trannies today
Hopefully their interest in guns and doom would've spared them that horrid fate

As a moderate, his assassination at most evoked a "Damn! I wonder if this'll actually change anything." It did. I think most people are generally aware that both extreme liberals and extreme conservatives, and the elite are the enemy, not the majority, nor most people who have independent or moderate views.

>>83029992
>people who publicly debate politics are activists and "political operatives."

Yeah, no shit.

>>83029991
>Obviously he had immense power which is why his death shook the country, at least for like a week.

How are you going to gloat about this and whine about Palestinians on the other side of the planet?

>>83029984
Do I have to keep saying violence is bad or is it just not gonna stick with anons? People that broke or stole shit or were physically violent should get punished. Btw the vast majority were not doing that and they got the red carpet laid out for them literally to walk in the building.

>>83029478
>Fascism is ultra nationalism with an elemental of ethno supremacism
wow a definition of fascism that doesn't mention class, incredible

>>83029978
Destiny and Kirk are both Israel shills anyone shilling for them deserves no sympathy

Kirk called for executions to be broadcast publicly and people be made to watch including children then got publicly executed he put that evil out into the world and it came back to him you reap what you sow.

>>83029966
>American'ts have proved that not everyone deserves guns
Because the point of the second amendment is being armed against a tyrannical government, and the more impositions said government can make against your case to be armed, the more power they have over you. George Washington quoted this, "a free people should be armed and disciplined, and that their safety and interests require promoting manufacturing for essential, particularly military, supplies."
>Las Vegas shooter killed 60 people and injured 400 people.
>What's your point?
That if someone wants to commit terror, they'll do it and find a way if they don't have a firearm.

>>83029978
>Why does a 90% White america make you sick?
Because ethnicity isn't what makes a human good or bad. Let me rephrase so you understand better. A 90% white America wouldn't make sick. Neither would a 90% non-white America. I've traveled in countries both like that. People are just people. However. Ignorance makes me sick. Selfishness makes me sick. Prejudice makes me sick. Cruelty makes me sick. And *you* make me sick. Does that clarify?

>>83030008
I didn't gloat about anything. Are you having a stroke? lol

>>83030004
>As a moderate

You're telling me that making fun of trannies is deserving of death. You will never be a woman.

>both extreme liberals and extreme conservatives, and the elite are the enemy, not the majority, nor most people who have independent or moderate views

You've just told me that a moderate deserves death for making fun of you wearing a dress and pretending to be a woman. How long until you shoot up a school?

>>83030012
>Kirk called for executions to be broadcast publicly and people be made to watch including children then got publicly executed he put that evil out into the world and it came back to him you reap what you sow.

Yeah, public executions for rapists and murderers. And then you'll lecture me about good and evil?

>>83029991
>"right planning" assumes you're not just going into someone's house.
So they got into trouble for murder/assassination and are going to be in jail now. Amazing counter argument. It's almost like the system is working, just not to your personal idealized idea of it.

>>83030005
When you're a debater, it comes with the cost that some of your ideas are wrong. Kirk rather debates college youth rather than professors that has more experiences with the outside world. He was spreading propaganda, he wasn't some innocent guy that wanted to talk to people.

>>83030023
/lgbt/ makes fun of trannies. Stop being a lying faggot. You're just wasting everyone's time, and your own most of all.

>>83030029
>professors that has more experiences with the outside world
HAHAHAHAHAHHAHA! Yeah, okay, you mean the same professors who ideologically created purity spirals in higher education and gate kept anyone with dissenting ideas out, and punishes students if the students don't align with the professors ideology, gtfo.

>>83029991
>What part don't you understand?
You and whether or not you are baiting or being serious but I've seen enough insanity and am insane enough myself to know who is insane just harder to tell on here.

>Effective prolific propagandists like Kirk help enact the administration they're supporting
I could say the same thing about Hassan or Destiny or any fucking breadtuber if their "side" won. Their side has control over more institutions btw. Apparently our King Donald Trump has finally defeated the leftist scum paradigm clown world wow.

>>83030020
How are you going to call me selfish and not advocate for your collective? I'm White, so I care about my country and my race, and I don't want my country to be lost at the hands of racial foreigners.

>>83030027
yet he also wanted women and girls to be made to carry their rapists babies to term forcing even more trauma upon innocent victims.

Once again hilling for Israel trumps everything he sold his soul to satan when he did and satan just happened to collect early.

>>83030009
>Do I have to keep saying violence is bad or is it just not gonna stick with anons?

Yet you clearly have more of a bias between the two incidents.

>Btw the vast majority were not doing that and they got the red carpet laid out for them literally to walk in the building.
You don't think the cops that let them in aren't compromised? Its either they support Trump or they know many guys who are in the riots work for law enforcement.

>>83030023
I'm just a moderate also check this out

a broadcaster who stirs up discontent against an easy group to target? I wish he wasn't assassinated but I also wish he never started, if only he were a football player...

>>83030028
Yeah, the system is working since any insane people can murder basically whoever they want as long as they're fine being in prison.
>>83030038
Propagandists were sentenced to death in the Nuremberg trials. It's just the same principle but something less bad than the actual Holocaust.
>I could say the same thing about Hassan or Destiny
That's fine. I'd never imply other 21st century presidents weren't murderous/genocidal.

>>83030040
I don't want to be part of a collective, anon. I want to be free to live my own life, my values are aligned with people who think the same way. I don't owe the white race shit. Come and get me with your "collective" if you think I'll live by anyone else's values. Including yours.

>>83030048
just because you redefined "rapist" as "man who gives a foid the ick" doesn't mean they're an actual rapist, retard. if you are a foid's male guardian or you get permission from such it's not rape. given that definition, all men a woman fornicates with are rapists.

>>83030048
Should their rapists recieve an immediate execution? And abortion is far more disgusting to me than denying abortion for rape victims. It's like, that's not good, but it doesn't forfeit the life of the child.

>>83030048
I'm pretty sure Satan want's you to kill the baby and also have more mindless sex and then kill those babies. NTA and I'm not against abortion but I do thing it incentivizes bad behavior. I wouldn't say I agree that a rape baby should be carried by the mother.

>>83030059
>Yeah, the system is working since any insane people can murder basically whoever they want as long as they're fine being in prison.
>Someone (anyone) gets murdered and gets in trouble for it and is punished for it
Here's your (you) idiot. Also hold this "L" you deserve it dearly.

>>83030015
>Because the point of the second amendment is being armed against a tyrannical government, and the more impositions said government can make against your case to be armed, the more power they have over you. George Washington quoted this, "a free people should be armed and disciplined, and that their safety and interests require promoting manufacturing for essential, particularly military, supplies."

Except Americans have only killed their own people rather than taking down tyranny.

>That if someone wants to commit terror, they'll do it and find a way if they don't have a firearm.
and like I said before, less gun deaths benefit everyone. No one said all crime will disappear

>>83030051
>bias
How? Both were bad and one was worse. J6 was a day minimal property damage and like 2 or 3 people died? BLM riots were like a whole fucking year bro with more deaths and millions maybe billions in property damage.

>You don't think the cops that let them in aren't compromised? Its either they support Trump or they know many guys who are in the riots work for law enforcement.
Don't forget about the glowies that probably incited any violence bro.

Self-deport back to /pol/ now rightoids. Hope you enjoyed your stay

>>83030059
>Propagandists were sentenced to death in the Nuremberg trials. It's just the same principle but something less bad than the actual Holocaust.
I'm so tired of people letting themselves be psyoped. Your principle would just be killing propogandists?

>>83030036
>you mean the same professors who ideologically created purity spirals in higher education and gate kept anyone with dissenting ideas out, and punishes students if the students don't align with the professors ideology

Conservative pundits and podcasters literally do the same thing, dipshit .
Not an argument.

>>83030095
Jump off a bridge and fulfill your transition, freak.

>>83030087
>structural systemic issues with bubbling anger underneath for decades
>gagglefuck of larping retards
Apples to oranges

>>83030081
>Except Americans have only killed their own people rather than taking down tyranny.
Consequence of a free society that isn't a complete overreaching surveillance state. The US hasn't gotten to the point of tyranny yet to cause that kind of reaction, despite extremists on both sides always humping after that argument in their favor for revolution.
>and like I said before, less gun deaths benefit everyone. No one said all crime will disappear
Murder is crime, and I highly doubt murders will go down, as it's a deeper issue than the firearm itself and a human conditional one that needs to be grappled with.

>>83030064
No I mean a 12 year old raped by her father you fag incel

>>83030065
Their rapists should get life in prison.
You are forcing your own personal morality onto a victim further denying them of personal bodily autonomy after already experiencing the worst kind of violation that is disgusting

>>83030106
>structural systemic issues with bubbling anger underneath for decades
I'm mixed race so I can go steal Nike shoes and Gucci bags now. Might burn down my local Wendy's while I'm at it.

>>83030101
The educational intuitions are captured by leftist purity spirals stupid, I laid it out. Hence too why they debate on podcasts and at stalls to debate students in an ideologically captured institution , stupid.

>>83030109
again, rape doesn't mean "didn't or can't consent". fornication with a 12yo that you are the male guardian of isn't rape.

>>83030116
The French Revolution spiraled into a mess too. That's why actual conservatives (ie. Edmund Burke) value political process. But since pol isn't sending their best >>83030102, I don't think we'll be having that conversation here

>>83030137
>French Revolution
Idk why you are bringing this up I'm not a huge history nerd but I think history rhymes but doesn't repeat. That anon also gave an appropriate response. Trannies and /pol/ fags are two sides of the same gay coin.

>>83030127
You deserve much worse than what happened to Charlie Kirk. If you're wondering why you have no friends and women avoid you like the plague it's because you are a deranged freak pedophile kill yourself

>>83030158
I'm saying it would have been better to address police brutality through policies like training and oversight proactively, so you don't end up with an angry public. Wild hot take for this thread, I know.
>another banger for my anon buddy up above
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6-vIz7h8Wc

>>83030108
>The US hasn't gotten to the point of tyranny yet

>Mass surveillance of everyday people
>The government enforcing martial law
>Getting fired for saying Kirk got a neck boo-boo
>An oligarch of pedophiles not being brought to justice
>Trump having more than 30 charges but hasn't been in jail for either one of them
>The US being cucked by a small Zionist ethnostate, paying them in billions just to cause mass murder
>Cancelling gov't programs for Americans, but funding billions for Argentina, Israel, and Ukraine
>Trumps hreaten to colonize Canada, Greenland, and Nigeria.
>Trump flirts with the idea of him being president for life
If that's not Tyranny, I don't know what is
>>83030108
>Murder is crime, and I highly doubt murders will go down
as I said again, less gun deaths benefit everyone

>>83030121
>The educational intuitions are captured by leftist purity spirals stupid,
So then THOSE people are the ones he should be debating, retard!

>>83030182
Yeah that would be great maybe blacks should stop being so violent too. Oh yeah maybe the courts should stop letting out repeat violent offenders.

>>83030175
>You deserve much worse than what happened to Charlie Kirk
incorrect. i am standing up for civilised values, rather than a slow erosion of civilised values like charlie cuck.
>If you're wondering why you have no friends and women avoid you like the plague it's because you are a deranged freak pedophile kill yourself
no it's because the west has lost any pretension to civilisation and refuses to compel behaviour with its laws rather than simply forbidding and permitting behaviours. if you were forced to obey social norms (as would occur in any civilised nation, and does to an extent in japan), then foids would all be forced to have sex with me or to die in slums.

>>83030195
Yeah well there's lots of ways to improve social problems. That's what most crime is, at policy level.
>instead seethe 24/7 about trannies, a 0.5% minority, for reasons
If you're too dumb to recognize rattling keys in front of your face than what else are you too dumb to recognize. This is a social problem too btw.

>>83030193
Oh please, leftoids wanted this and advocate for it for a surveillance state and now play the other side to pretend it's bad now when they would cream at the idea of something like Germany or the UK gov. where you are arrested for the wrong comment online.
>as I said again, less gun deaths benefit everyone
Bad things happen, maybe don't blame the guns and take everyone's rights away and look at the groups committing them the most and clamp down there, but that's profiling, despite pattern recognition being "bad", since most of the US's shootings aren't the bombastic headliner stories and the most mass shootings happen in certain communities.
>So then THOSE people are the ones he should be debating, retard!
Lol, and they refuse or protest any dissenting ideas. Or even get death threats, I mean look at what happened to Kirk from a student who disagreed with him. Imagine the vile ideas of the professors in turn have. The only times I've seen it were with Jordan Peterson, who's a classical leftist debating leftoids, Joe Rogan on his podcast debating professors and Ben Shapiro at college's debating professors, I think Steven Crowder did too. But the consensus currently on campuses is speech is violence so debating is violence, inside in the captured institution in order to keep the quota of said ideologically in place. But again, professors punish students with ideas that challenge the professors, so hence the concept of purity spirals. And you can be disingenuous all you want but the educational institutions are gate-kept, ideologically and politically captured and suffer immensely from purity spiraling.
>Purity Spiral: A purity spiral is a theory which argues for the existence of a form of groupthink in which it becomes more beneficial to hold certain views than to not hold them, and more extreme views are rewarded while expressing doubt, nuance, or moderation is punished (a process sometimes called "moral outbidding").

>>83030213
>>instead seethe 24/7 about trannies, a 0.5% minority, for reasons
Uh huh and what do you think those reasons are exactly? Surely you understand any validly to the tranny hate of course because you REALLY care about minorities right and want to understand the views of the opposing side.

>If you're too dumb to recognize rattling keys in front of your face
Trannies are this and not at the same time. They only have so much attention focused on them because they wouldn't just shut the fuck up and stay in their lane and the system itself is enforcing you to accept their mental delusions or any other thing they want that is part of their "identity" whatever the fuck that means since it can just change on a whim I guess.

>>83030195
Police been more aggressive toward Black people even before crime sky rocketed in ghetto communities. More policing doesn't solve the issue alone.

>>83030182
Prince Paul is mad underrated
I really like 6 Feet Deep too.

>>83029259
>Trump who is killing innocent people en masse.
lmao

>>83028974 (OP)
you have to admit it was pretty funny how it was right as he was downplaying gun violence

>>83030243
https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/who-will-stand-up-against-the-presidents-lawless-killings
Maybe you need to learn nigger.

>>83030242
They gotta go where the crime is doh. I agree though yeah more policing doesn't wont automatically fix everything about blacks problems. Enough is enough though just put people away. Maybe make prison sentences longer for violent felonies. Put more people in padded rooms. Bring back public executions for murderers and rapists. No one wants to flip the fucking easy switch it's pathetic. Humans literally need authoritarianism in some form for the crazies your version just sucks. How about instead of drawing the line at offensive speech or political power we start with violent lunatics first and work from there ffs.

>>83030248
He was talking about gang violence so niggers to be precise.

>>83030109
>You are forcing your own personal morality onto a victim further denying them of personal bodily autonomy

Is that not what you're doing to the child?

>>83030269
>He was talking about gang violence so niggers to be precise.

Yet, he was killed by a a guy from a white conservative family
Boo-hoo

>ring back public executions for murderers and rapists. No one wants to flip the fucking easy switch it's pathetic. Humans literally need authoritarianism in some form for the crazies your version just sucks. How about instead of drawing the line at offensive speech or political power we start with violent lunatics first and work from there ffs.
There are criminals and pedophiles running the gov't, but you're talking about them.
American prisons are already brutal comparing to prisons in Europe. Prisons are suppose to rehabilitate and institutionalize criminals, not just make them suffer.

>>83030234
>leftoids wanted this and advocate for it for a surveillance state and now play the other side to pretend it's bad now when they would cream at the idea of something like Germany or the UK gov

Except mass surveillance was more evident under the Bush administration, but whatever

>maybe don't blame the guns and take everyone's rights away and look at the groups committing them the most and clamp down ther
Again, less gun deaths benefit everyone.
You keep thinking I want to ban gun for everyone. I didn't say that. I'm saying background checks, stricter gun violations, and better recording of rifles can go a long way

Also, at least Jordan Peterson actually had debated leftist professionals and Joe Rogan interviewed people on the left.

>>83030127
>rape doesn't mean "didn't or can't consent". fornication with a 12yo that you are the male guardian of isn't rape.

Okay, yeah, the Right has NO PLACE to talk about getting rid of criminals and death penalty.

>>83029715
Amazing pic for whenever they try to claim the high ground.

>>83030328
>Yet, he was killed by a a guy from a white conservative family
And? He was a lefty crazy that crashed out. That's on him not his family. Oh yeah I forget blank slate ideology and all so free will doesn't exist and it's his parent fault he decided to murder someone in cold blood.

>Yet, he was killed by a a guy from a white conservative family
They gotta go too I'm sure that's obvious but you wanna shift the conversation into something else.

>Prisons are suppose to rehabilitate and institutionalize criminals, not just make them suffer.
That's the best outcome if they can be lefties can't accept some people can not be saved.

>>83030328
>Except mass surveillance was more evident under the Bush administration, but whatever
Sure, which was a bullshit move to fight terror and expand the surveillance state, but I have my own schizo hunches about that. But leftists cheer at the ideas of Germany and the rest of the EU for imprisoning people for the wrong speech, but child rapists and molesters get a slap on the wrist (and the increase in those crimes from immigrants not being ejected but protected). Seems that dissenting ideas and ideologies are more of a threat to the system than that.
>I'm saying background checks, stricter gun violations, and better recording of rifles can go a long way
I have mixed feelings about background checks, especially the restrictions there within that constitutes a no-sale. Can you be depressed and own a firearm or be on mental medication? Despite most gun violence occurring with criminals, but the sensationalization of mass shootings at schools/church is what is focused on (despite gun violence being much higher else where and far more frequent), and not focusing on the most cost effective life-saving policies could do. This isn't even going into the rabbit hole of why violence is spiking in society. Stricter gun violations are already clamped down hard. Castle doctrine requires extremely narrow parameters to be completely justified. In some states you have to give a warning three times before you can shoot, some like Texas it's more open, but gun violations under what exact area? What happens if someone is attacking you, or invading your house and threatening to harm you? Criminals get guns all the time and they've been getting slaps on the wrists? As for better recording of rifles, I disagree there too. This also comes at the crossroads of government overreach and not allowing the people access to firearms. And the controversy of the ATF being held unaccountable and able to make arbitrary laws without votes or discussions by the people.

>>83028990
>been here since 2016
kek

>>83029235
I got called a newfag in '08 and will always be a newfag.

>>83030096
Propagandists for things like torture, killing 100s of thousands of innocent people, and genocide, yes.
>>83030243
Answer:
>How many people do you think will die/have died from Trump's medicaid cuts, USAID cuts, our assistance in the Gaza genocide, and the bombing of innocents in coastal waters in the Caribbean while we prepare for land strikes?
Any sort of deflection will be taken as a concession.

>>83029151
>I mean, when horrible people die, it's funny, especially on live TV
Yet when I laugh about trannies killing themselves or communists and antifa members getting shot it's apparently le bad even though they're 10 times worse than Kirk could ever be
>I rightly view him as someone who long has deserved to die.
Leftfags unironically think that around half the country deserves to die for moderate views while simultaneously spouting about democracy 24/7 even though they want to get rid of a democratically elected leader.

>>83029162
>legalize comedy

>>83030492
Propagandists for genocide deserve to die, yes, but not Republican voters. You people are just victims of propaganda who don't know/care about anything about how the government works and just react to forces far larger than you could imagine.

TOTAL

LEFTIST

INCARCERATION

SOOOOOOOOOOON

>>83030417
>Can you be depressed and own a firearm or be on mental medication?

Most suicides are caused by guns. If you're critically depressed, I don't think having a gun will fix your problems.

>>83030417
>Criminals get guns all the time and they've been getting slaps on the wrists?
No ones gets a slap on the wrist for non lethal crimes.
Plus, they can just get guns for states that have looser gun laws or American arm sellers.
Not all the guns is smuggled from Mexico or something
>>83030417
>d the controversy of the ATF being held unaccountable and able to make arbitrary laws without votes or discussions by the people.

>Muh Ruby Ridge
>My Waco

The ATF were incompetent, but they were going after criminals, I thought you wanted more police?

>>83030540
>No ones gets a slap on the wrist for **lethal crimes.
Sorry this is what I meant

>>83030355
these are traditional values that have persisted for thousand of years. it is you, who wish to overthrow these traditional values, that are criminals who should be killed

>>83030507
What you leftsissies and faggots need to realise is that you would get stoned or thrown off of buildings in palestine because they and all other middle eastern mudslime countries are third world barbaric shitholes that should have been exterminated long ago. Kikes and mudslimes killing each other is the best thing to happen to humanity but sadly Trump's ceasefire stopped it for some time. At least by then you should be sucking him off for saving the hecking children in Gaza

>>83030540
>If you're critically depressed, I don't think having a gun will fix your problems.
And getting locked up by doctor Shekelstein in a mental hospital with a bunch of 40 iq retards and bpd whores after taking 40 pills and somehow not dying will definitely fix all your problems.
>Plus, they can just get guns for states that have looser gun laws or American arm sellers.
Criminals in eurocuck countries with strict gun laws can easily get guns. Sweden has tons of middle eastern gangs and mafias killing each other and swedes from illegaly imported guns. Not to mention the 2019 Paris riots where the citizens had to defend themselves with brooms against niggers with literal machine guns

>>83030572
That's literally not policy in Gaza, obviously, definitely not in the West Bank, and 100s of Palestinians in Gaza have been killed since the "ceasefire", and many 100s more wounded. I know nazis are pro-genocide and pro-Israel gaining power, money, and control with full US-backing, but normal people with empathy don't love genocide lol.

>>83030540
>Most suicides are caused by guns. If you're critically depressed, I don't think having a gun will fix your problems.
Yeah, and it's mainly men killing themselves, but lets not try to fix that, lets just take their rights away instead. I still don't agree since you can easily be undiagnoised and still kill yourself.
>Not all the guns is smuggled from Mexico or something
You can 3D print guns now, and same with being able to make guns at home, there was one guy who made a close replication of an AK-47. Mexican gangs have been found too to be making their own firearms with increasing efficiency, where they were making their own 50 cal machine guns to combat the gov. Hell, there are submarine or partial submarine drug smuggling boats now.
There's really nothing here that curbs gun violence, which is violence at it's core and nothing to do with the core issues other than trying to deal with the symptoms.
It's all just more infringements on law abiding citizens to try to create a game of cat and mouse with criminals where the citizens are continually stripped of their rights.
>The ATF were incompetent, but they were going after criminals, I thought you wanted more police?
The ATF can mandate which guns are allowed and not allowed and said accessories without votes or checks and balances, they are an unchecked law creating institution. I am not mentioning Waco or Ruby Ridge.

>>83030609
>NOOOOOO the hecking terror- I mean peace organisation taht strictly follows Sharia would totaaaaally neeeeeeeeever kill muh hecking trans xisters trust me
>Lefties labeling everyone who slightly disagrees with them a nazi for the gazillionth time
Nazis hate Israel just as much as they hate Palestine retard. You're either completely historically illiterate or just straight up baiting.
>normal people with empathy don't love genocide lol
"Normal people with empathy" wouldn't cheer when a father of 2 gets murdered in front of his children either
>and 100s of Palestinians in Gaza have been killed since the "ceasefire", and many 100s more wounded
Doubt it was completely unprovoked but either way it's a great thing to see these subhumans get eradicated

>>83030607
>Not to mention the 2019 Paris riots where the citizens had to defend themselves with brooms against niggers with literal machine guns
Exactly this, disarm the law abidding citizens and defang them from being able to defend themselves as criminal run rampant because the gov. is incompetent control freaks.

>>83028990
>2016
openly admitting to being a literal election tourist lmao

>>83030669
Yeah. In these exact countries people get jailed for merely speaking out about the things migrants do or making petty jokes on the internet. It's insane. Giving up their guns was one of the biggest mistakes Europeans, Canadians and Australians ever made.

>>83030663
>hurr durr just let em fight
Attitude always benefits Israel because they have infinitely more resources and western backing lol. Your position, if enacted, would result in Israel winning more, so you're pro-Israel.
Idk if you're a nazi but you're obviously ultra ultra far-right. I don't pretend that Palestinians are woke, but that obviously doesn't mean they should be genocided, lol.
>I have no empathy
Glad you admit it. Kirk was a key part in enacting a murderous genocidal regime, and I'm glad he's dead.

>>83030696
The irony is that Europe saw some of it's lowest crime rates and was at it's safest, most peaceful in history before the mass immigration. Now they are quickly devolving into low-trust 3rd-world like societies. Wish I coulda visited Europe before it was smudged.

>>83030572
At least the leftoids eternally hate Israel now, which combined with the kike backlash this creates primes them to accept TRVE antisemitism.
I predict by 2026, or 2027 at the latest the average every day leftoid will be more antisemitic than the tiny minority of /pol/ack Chuds

>>83030706
Goddamn, not that anon but stfu, if your parameters for allowing, accepting and justifying murder are this low then you're next on the wall retardo.

>>83030706
>Your position, if enacted, would result in Israel winning more, so you're pro-Israel.
I don't care who wins. Neither side is going to benefit white civilisation in any way other than killing the other. Israel winning would just mean more dead mudslimes while Palestine winning would mean more dead kikes and faggots. I'm for either.
>I don't pretend that Palestinians are woke
There's a difference between "being woke" and following a religion that seeks to murder faggots and enslave women.
>>I have no empathy
>Glad you admit it
I have no empathy towards third worlders, faggots, human hating foids and anyone else that seeks to take our freedom and destroy our civilisation, yes.
>Kirk was a key part in enacting a murderous genocidal regime
It's funny that he got killed right after calling out the jews for funding the left's anti white agendas

>>83030732
Their ideologies still indirectly benefit the jewish elites but at least we'll maybe soon see antifa attacking jews on the street

>>83030748
Being a propagandist for genocide is a low bar? The anon I'm talking to says that all Jews/brown people should be killed lol, and you're fine with that.
Also lol @ the idea that those who think genocide propagandists deserve to die deserve to die for believing that.
>>83030758
>I don't care if Israel wins, I just want us to let them win and get more power
Okay lol.
I don't like fundamentalism of any religion. I don't think that means they should all be genocided, though. That's a very, very lazy zionist argument that's been around forever.
>I want all non-whites and gay people to die. HOW DARE YOU CALL ME A NAZI?
lol. Kirk was always an ultra-Zionist. One time he said that Jews are more progressive in America (obviously true, nobody denies this). Literally a couple days or maybe the day before he died he joked with Ben Shapiro about how the NYC is pro-Palestine (LOL) and anti-semitic.

>>83030807
>Being a propagandist for genocide is a low bar?
Fuck off you deranged freak, as you post anime lolis while talking about genocide and assassination. You're fucking parameters for what is a propagandist is as wide as the world, including ANY political commentator, or normal person with a political opinion can be accused of. The irony is the students coulda ignored him wholesale and it defeats his interactions and his salinity in the political sphere and debating and then you go and say some wild shit like you're happy he is dead for debating college students. Seek help. I swear this place attracts the craziest schizos in the world.

>>83030807
>>I don't care if Israel wins, I just want us to let them win and get more power
Did you even read what I said? I don't care about which side wins. The only mildly pro israel thing I said was that leftists should logically be more in support of Israel because Palestine and Hamas are against their fundamental ideas retard.
>Acting like national socialism is the only ideology that hates blacks and kikes
>Kirk was always an ultra-Zionist. One time he said that Jews are more progressive in America (obviously true, nobody denies this).
The only reason he supported israel before was because he'd get killed by them if he went against them. It's true that he turned away too late but I doubt anyone would put their life on the line if they were him. There's also a difference between claiming that they're "more progressive" and saying that they fund marxists

>>83028990
>here since 2016
checks out

>>83028990
i've been here since 2006 and no, you're wrong.

>>83028974 (OP)
Charlie Kirk was a man who chose to devote his life to making the world a stupider and more violent place. There is something which one can find within most people which was missing from him. Whether he was born without it or, rather, it was taken from him at a young age is ultimately academic. What matters is that this emptiness made him desirable to a certain faction of Capital, not really people, you understand, just some flows which all for one reason or another would like to drown the world, and he was happy to become their vessel. He encouraged them to pour their infernal sludge into that emptiness, and fill him up with it, so that he might work it into something which could spread across society like cultural black mold. It's a real laugh seeing his colleagues and collaborators wax poetic about the depth of his "faith" - this man believed in nothing as much as anyone has ever really believed in nothing. He was a cardboard cutout, an empty signifier. He had never existed before and he had existed since the beginning of history, might perhaps have invented it. His face had no features. His body was wrong. When you tried to look at him, the light started to bend funny ways. His family, of course, doesn't really exist, either. They're just an idea, like gravity, indexed to some bodies in a very bad dream. There was really no substance to Kirk's life, is my point. To paraphrase that gay novel half his fans are obsessed with, he simply was not there. There was only one real thing about him, and it was his willingness to make himself useful to death. It is this which will define him, ultimately, and nothing else - we can say this for sure now because his project is over and the results are in: he won! He accomplished his goal. Spurting like a broken sprinkler on a college quad in Utah, he achieved apotheosis. I wonder, do you think he felt anythin

>>83031216

I mean, shit man, what is there to say about him? There's nothing. He lived and died for basically nothing. He spent his life farming clips of him "owning da libz" with edited, out-of-context videos of him "debating" unprepared teenagers (since he got his ass absolutely handed to him every time he tried it with people who knew what they were doing). He was worthless, he lived for nothing and died for even less. He was more useful dead than alive, since in his death they could pretend the left were violent and the fascists were the reasonable ones. They could try to make him into a Horst Wessel, but since modern Fascists understand very little about the principles of politics and even less about Fascism past, their cargo-cult approach to attempting to lionise his "memory" fell completely flat. They have no idea in the slightest how to effectively weaponise his death in face of a disillusioned population that neither knew who he was or cared, and those who did know him absolutely hated him. Kind of hard to weaponise his "memory" as a political tool when there's nothing about him people want to remember.

There's something darkly ironic that the man who believed that Black Women were subhuman was only mourned by Candice Owens, a Black Woman. She was the only person who was even remotely normal about his death. His wife used it to push her own grift. His "friends" used him for a political rally and forgot about him the next week. The president he was so slavishly loyal to for all his political life could not even summon the energy to *pretend* to care about him.

Charlie Kirk was a fascist loser whose life meant nothing. It is just as Mao Zedong said:

>To die for the people is weightier than Mount Tai, but to work for the fascists and die for the exploiters and oppressors is lighter than a feather.

the thing about being massively, and publicly political is that someone can and probably will use you as their political statement.

>>83031216
It's like the old 4chan again. Beautiful

>>83028990
I hate you so much. I know this is bait but I seriously hate you so much.

>>83030706
Are you a cute tranny? Originally ofc