Thread 83045015

Smut is better than pornography. Not because it's more virtuous, but because it doesn't make you as mentally retarded. It's very hard to become a true coomer when you read smut, because you dont rely of visual stimuli. Ergo, smut is better.

But you know what's truly the best? Using your imagination.

>>83045015 (OP)
What about audio porn? Would you say ASMR is as good as smut?

>>83045015 (OP)

Foidslop-pilled, foidmaxxed foid

>>83045067
Audio porn i would say is between smut and porn. Its not the worst, but not the best either.

Imo what ruins porn is how damaging it is for future sex. It gives retarded expectations, something that is also present in alot of audio porn. Smut does this too, but you dont have any visual or audio stimuli. But imagination is the best imo. I get off to my imagination. Its a good way to train your ability to visualise shit.

>>83045085
Its true, imagination is the best. You train your visualisation skills. Shit I can imagine the sounds and the positions man. I am becoming more intelligent during my gooning sessions

>>83045112
Smut is arguably more damaging for future sex than porn though since there is literally no barrier to what can be described. At least real porn is constrained by reality - the expectations set by smut can be totally unrealistic

>>83045201
That is a good point, but porn i would argue, is still worse because of the visual stimuli. Smut is not constrained within reality (at least alot of the time) but porn creates this reference point that I would argue is more damaging than anything else. Like i can't actually expect a minotaur, but I could expect a 9inch dick that would supposedly be the best ever ( due to the facial expressions of pornstars )

>>83045127

learning while gooning is reminding me of that one screencap of a porn video that explained ancap ideology I've seen floating around back in 2017 or so

>>83045250
I wonder, why dont men read or write smut? Do you need visual stimuli like that?

>>83045015 (OP)
it doesn't make you a gooner who needs to masturbate every day but it can make you a sort of gooner in the sense that you get deeper and deeper into more depraved stuff
>t. only read light yaoi fanfics at first, romance focus
>then f/m fanfics, still mild
>then switched to erotica
>started reading more stories about noncon and even "insemination"
>ended up with most often reading extreme gangbang stuff with elements of degradation
i wish i could go back to those wholesome aot T-rated yaoi fanfics, or maybe i should.

>>83045127
Imagination is boring though, you can never get even close with just imagining.

>>83045112
>Imo what ruins porn is how damaging it is for future sex
You should at the caveat: If you are retarded.

>>83045439
You are just not imagining har enough. After a while of doing it you can legit auto supply yourself with goon material it's amazing. I can sit on the buss and think about it it's amazing.
>>83045457
No but it makes you retarded, porn makes you an actual retard

smut just makes me sad. i look some up with the intent to masturbate, then i find myself there five hours later, still in bed, hand frozen around my soft unjerked cock, reading the words "this is the current end point" with the last update 2021-05-27, and thinking about how the characters' relationship could be fixed

>>83045309
Nona... maybe put down the smut for a while. But I argue that imagining depraved shit is still better than actually watching it.

>>83045488
Damn anon, you invested. If you dont want such a emotional roller coaster I suggest reading "oneshots" or "pure smut" they get straight to it

>>83045481
>No but it makes you retarded, porn makes you an actual retard
Speak for yourself. Always seems like people are blaming preordained flaws on porn.

>>83045492
i mean as i said it only really affects the content not the frequency. i read smut/erotica maybe 2 times a month lol, i don't have the biggest libido

>>83045516
How does it not make you one? Loads of folk get freakshow fetishes and problems with intimacy due to it.

>>83045015 (OP)
>cocaine is healthier than fentanyl bro

>>83045538
Alright nona, but read some wholesome ones then

>>83045565
after i wrote that out i realized my filthiness and have since decided to read more wholesome ones as well. i realize it might be mostly about time. good slow burn romantic fanfics take like 1-2 hours to finish lol.

>>83045510
maybe i'll try it. usually i find that i enjoy the sexual tension and the hinting at it more than the actual sex scenes, and i often think that i'd rather they delay it even more. i don't know, nothing wrong with smut, but i just have trouble using it as porn. prefer to look up a picture of a nice woman in a nice pose, shut off my phone, lay back, close my eyes, and build my own story and fantasy. guess it works differently for everyone. or maybe i'm just a faggot.

>>83045607
actually sovl. i'll never have this, bf material .

>>83045550
>get freakshow fetishes
People don't just "get" freakshow fetishes, they're born with them. Porn doesn't infect you with new fetishes. The worst it does is give you ED when you grip your dick too hard, which I can't imagine anybody but a knuckle dragging retard doing.

>>83045634
if you're a woman you could probably have me (or someone like me) by asking me if i want to go for coffee or for a walk, and then just staying on me for a while and being kind and real with me. not to say i'm easy, but i am really looking for any excuse to give in and i'm pretty sure a lot of decent men are like me in this way. though i guess it's difficult to tell at a glance which of the guys around you have sovlful masturbation habits and which don't

>>83045721
i do already think this and agree with you, but this advice is for women who have 1. friends and 2. bare minimum social skills. i have none, no friends for 10 years lol and i'm not even really able to look men in the eye unless it's like a cashier. but i do hope a possibly more social woman approaches you anon.

>>83045591
NTA, I recommend perusing literature from the late 17th century to early 20th century. I find it to be the absolute zenith of the English language so far. It may not reach the pits of lewdness you are used to but it can still get rather saucy.
After 1950 the New Age mentality began creeping in and I just don't think they understood romance or mythology in a solemn way. And before roughly 1660 I find the language to be archaic in a cumbersome way.

>>83045796
any specific recommendations?

>>83045772
i understand your fear. i share it, fully. i suppose you're already very aware, but these things would likely not seem very negative to the man at all, and are more like personal blocks. i'm in university myself, but i'm afraid that since i'm in law the kinds of women who surround me would not be very interested in a strange guy who doesn't care much about career ambitions, haha. thank you, and good luck yourself. truly.

>>83045439
Is this really your experience? That sounds awful man. Are you one of those people who don't visualize (blank/outline on the meme apple scale)?

>>83045796
>>83045831
bump for the best of the saucy zenith of the English language

>>83045067
Audio porn will either completely ruin you or free you once you realize you will never have anything even half as good IRL.

>>83045636
>Porn doesn't infect you with new fetishes.
Yeah and taking light drugs doesn't make you reach out for harder drugs once the light ones no longer do much for you, right? People are just born with a preference for crack.

>>83047150
nta but the only weird fetishes i've gained since puberty are from irl experiences. i don't think porn necessarily makes you chase ever freakier fetishism. i recently stumbled across a few things i remembered from when i was a teenager and it still hit just as hard for me.

>>83045127
>You train your visualisation skills
yeah that's why female writers write the best and most original media

>>83045015 (OP)
>wanting to find BRAPposting erotic

Smut is boring and repetitive. No wonder smut writers are being replaced by AI and chatbots.

>>83045201
>real porn is constrained by reality
this nigga never heard of jewish bdsm porn and hentai

>>83045015 (OP)
do nudes still count as porn?

>>83047150
Retarded comparison, good job. Please try and porn yourself into a scat fetish, zoophilia, or pedophilia you fucking moron.

>>83048251
Whatever you say, retard.

>>83048302
>shitty infographic with a single source from 2001
incredible, fag you really showed me

>>83045015 (OP)
>it doesn't make you as mentally retarded. It's very hard to become a true coomer when you read smut
i use grok to ai-generate smut for me. does this make me more or less retarded, or does it cancel out?

>>83045015 (OP)
im going to keep watching tiktok pmvs, sorry chud

>>83045015 (OP)
whats good about smut is that you can have content that is banned on mainstream porn sites, such as rape. as a rapist, women are basically writing about me in all of their Erotic Fiction and therefore its based.

>>83045287
Marquis de Sade Justine.

>>83049213
people don't goon to that shit

>>83045112
>Imo what ruins porn is how damaging it is for future sex.
I'm dying a virgin
>>83049190
Consensual underage my beloved...

can you give evidence of ''smut''? I would like to try this