Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:15:24 PM No.16697760
Scientifically speaking, what is the best way to cure a depression?
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:20:05 PM No.16697765
Islam, this is a medical fact.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:20:08 PM No.16697766
>>16697760 (OP)
Diet, good sleep, exercise, sun exposure, breath work, going out with friends, hiking, cold showers.
Diet, good sleep, exercise, sun exposure, breath work, going out with friends, hiking, cold showers.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:20:23 PM No.16697767
>>16697760 (OP)
literally abandon your environment and move to new one and never come back, change your job and everything
literally abandon your environment and move to new one and never come back, change your job and everything
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:26:53 PM No.16697772
>>16697760 (OP)
Have you tried being less sad?
Have you tried being less sad?
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:47:05 PM No.16697786
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 7:55:22 PM No.16697791
>>16697760 (OP)
It depends on the nature of the depression, which I basically categorize as physical, bored, sad and despair (these can overlap with each other).
Physical just means you have issues with your brain chemistry full stop, these are extremely rare but do occur, and can be alleviated through chemical intervention.
Bored depression is pretty much what it says on the tin, you're just bored of life, and with that eventually comes an apathy towards existence, it can usually just be alleviated through engagement with activities you find enjoyable (if the activities you usually find so aren't, do something different).
Sad depression is an emotional reaction to outside stimuli, which can range from not getting your favourite cake that day, to seeing your friend's head get blown off in front of you. Highly dependent on both your emotional sensitivity and the stressor, if the scarring is too intense it may necessitate CBT and/or chemical intervention.
Despair is the realisation that life is a waste of time, either yours or all life, and that you may as well be dead. Highly dependent on the intellectual depth of the person's belief in this apparent reality.
The symptoms can be softened somewhat through chemical intervention, but to truly fix the problem would require a complete refutation and replacement of their beliefs on life, and speaking from personal experience, nobody has an answer beyond religion, which I also reject as an answer.
It depends on the nature of the depression, which I basically categorize as physical, bored, sad and despair (these can overlap with each other).
Physical just means you have issues with your brain chemistry full stop, these are extremely rare but do occur, and can be alleviated through chemical intervention.
Bored depression is pretty much what it says on the tin, you're just bored of life, and with that eventually comes an apathy towards existence, it can usually just be alleviated through engagement with activities you find enjoyable (if the activities you usually find so aren't, do something different).
Sad depression is an emotional reaction to outside stimuli, which can range from not getting your favourite cake that day, to seeing your friend's head get blown off in front of you. Highly dependent on both your emotional sensitivity and the stressor, if the scarring is too intense it may necessitate CBT and/or chemical intervention.
Despair is the realisation that life is a waste of time, either yours or all life, and that you may as well be dead. Highly dependent on the intellectual depth of the person's belief in this apparent reality.
The symptoms can be softened somewhat through chemical intervention, but to truly fix the problem would require a complete refutation and replacement of their beliefs on life, and speaking from personal experience, nobody has an answer beyond religion, which I also reject as an answer.
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6/14/2025, 9:07:06 PM No.16697824
>>16697760 (OP)
Going to the point of partial burnthrough. If you suvive it the neurocircuits for depression will be thoroughly fried through too.
Going to the point of partial burnthrough. If you suvive it the neurocircuits for depression will be thoroughly fried through too.
Anonymous
6/14/2025, 9:17:03 PM No.16697832
>>16697760 (OP)
A complete change in crcumstances.
>>16697767
This. The more things you change, the better. Job, home, partner, friends, hobbies, city, all of it.
A complete change in crcumstances.
>>16697767
This. The more things you change, the better. Job, home, partner, friends, hobbies, city, all of it.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 10:44:03 PM No.16697882
>>16697832
>>16697767
The point of actual clinical depression is you're unable to do any of those. They don't even manage to maintain their personal hygiene.
>>16697767
The point of actual clinical depression is you're unable to do any of those. They don't even manage to maintain their personal hygiene.
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Anonymous
6/14/2025, 11:07:52 PM No.16697909
>>16697882
I've been depressed before, diagnosed, been developing it for years after losing my career and unsuccessfully fighting to get it back.
You don't just instantly quit doing everything. It's a slow but steady decline into new, very bad habits. I didn't stop taking showers, it was many months of skipping them once in a while. I didn't start going to bed a 4 am, it was many months of going to bed just a a bit later. Even by the end of it, there are still moments where you have enough energy to do something. Like finally deciding to vacuum the apartment after 2 months.
And sometimes things change out of your control. For me, what started change for the better was when i got dumped by my fiancee and almost had a suicide attempt, she called the cops to my place, called my parents, they basically gave me an intervention later, etc. I basically hit the rock bottom at that point, lost pretty much all i cared for, and it was either kill myself for real or make some drastic changes in my life. I got my own apartment (lived with parents until then), i met new people, got new hobbies and shit is much better now. Went to therapy too, though i wouldn't say it was a game changer, it contributed maybe 30%, the lady gave me a few good ideas and perspectives. Point is i needed to remove myself as much as possible from how i lived up until then. Outlook on my career is much better now, too, will probably get it back in a few months, ironic given i made my peace with never getting it back.
I've been depressed before, diagnosed, been developing it for years after losing my career and unsuccessfully fighting to get it back.
You don't just instantly quit doing everything. It's a slow but steady decline into new, very bad habits. I didn't stop taking showers, it was many months of skipping them once in a while. I didn't start going to bed a 4 am, it was many months of going to bed just a a bit later. Even by the end of it, there are still moments where you have enough energy to do something. Like finally deciding to vacuum the apartment after 2 months.
And sometimes things change out of your control. For me, what started change for the better was when i got dumped by my fiancee and almost had a suicide attempt, she called the cops to my place, called my parents, they basically gave me an intervention later, etc. I basically hit the rock bottom at that point, lost pretty much all i cared for, and it was either kill myself for real or make some drastic changes in my life. I got my own apartment (lived with parents until then), i met new people, got new hobbies and shit is much better now. Went to therapy too, though i wouldn't say it was a game changer, it contributed maybe 30%, the lady gave me a few good ideas and perspectives. Point is i needed to remove myself as much as possible from how i lived up until then. Outlook on my career is much better now, too, will probably get it back in a few months, ironic given i made my peace with never getting it back.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 1:57:08 AM No.16699636
>>16697760 (OP)
exercise. it really is that simple. i did not believe.
exercise. it really is that simple. i did not believe.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 6:48:37 PM No.16700118
>>16697766
Sex, reading books, playing chess, traveling, cycling, drawing, massage.
Sex, reading books, playing chess, traveling, cycling, drawing, massage.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:29:58 PM No.16700141
>>16697760 (OP)
There can be no "cure" because depression is not an individual disease. Depression is a natural reaction to an inhumane society. I am a manlet for example. I have always been bullied, ostracized, rejected and neglected. It would be highly pathological NOT to be a lonely miserable piece of shit after years of such treatment. Telling a depressed guy to go to therapy is like sending a black guy to therapy after he got discriminated against by racists. Blaming the victim doesn't cure the cause. The cause is an inherently evil society.
This is, if you're talking about real depression. In case you only mean narcissistic tiktok attention seeking meme "depression", just stop being retarded.
There can be no "cure" because depression is not an individual disease. Depression is a natural reaction to an inhumane society. I am a manlet for example. I have always been bullied, ostracized, rejected and neglected. It would be highly pathological NOT to be a lonely miserable piece of shit after years of such treatment. Telling a depressed guy to go to therapy is like sending a black guy to therapy after he got discriminated against by racists. Blaming the victim doesn't cure the cause. The cause is an inherently evil society.
This is, if you're talking about real depression. In case you only mean narcissistic tiktok attention seeking meme "depression", just stop being retarded.
Anonymous
6/17/2025, 7:30:16 PM No.16700142
>>16697760 (OP)
Drugs
Drugs
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 5:25:55 AM No.16700470
>>16700120
It's crazy what chronically crunching your abs a little bit can do for a man.
It's crazy what chronically crunching your abs a little bit can do for a man.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:38:51 AM No.16700607
>>16697760 (OP)
>Scientifically speaking, what is the best way to cure a depression?
Depends if the Depression is a symptom or if it is Chronic Depression.
From what I understand, you have on one side the people with an actual chemical imbalance in the brain. They live a good life but are still depressed no matter what they do, so these people need an actual SSRI or other type of anti-depressants.
Then there's the people who have issues and feel depressed.
Usually fixing the issue resolves the problem.
But the one solution I would try first and foremost is exercise, sport and fitness.
It's incredible the effects of physical exercise when it comes to mental health.
A lot of men in particular benefit in terms of mental health through fitness and exercise and it's well documented.
When it comes to depression and suicide, specifically in men, it revolves around beeing or feeling useful.
The men who kill themselves often have "nothing to live for" and therefore feel "useless".
It could be a natural mechanism for nature to cull the individuals of a group that are unproductive.
At least that's what I like to think, I'm not sure if the evidence or research support this.
>Scientifically speaking, what is the best way to cure a depression?
Depends if the Depression is a symptom or if it is Chronic Depression.
From what I understand, you have on one side the people with an actual chemical imbalance in the brain. They live a good life but are still depressed no matter what they do, so these people need an actual SSRI or other type of anti-depressants.
Then there's the people who have issues and feel depressed.
Usually fixing the issue resolves the problem.
But the one solution I would try first and foremost is exercise, sport and fitness.
It's incredible the effects of physical exercise when it comes to mental health.
A lot of men in particular benefit in terms of mental health through fitness and exercise and it's well documented.
When it comes to depression and suicide, specifically in men, it revolves around beeing or feeling useful.
The men who kill themselves often have "nothing to live for" and therefore feel "useless".
It could be a natural mechanism for nature to cull the individuals of a group that are unproductive.
At least that's what I like to think, I'm not sure if the evidence or research support this.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 11:41:00 AM No.16700608
>>16697760 (OP)
Aren't autism and psychopathy mutually exclusive?
Aren't autism and psychopathy mutually exclusive?
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 2:54:14 PM No.16700663
>>16700608
Not necessarily, though it's a very rare and dangerous combination.
Not necessarily, though it's a very rare and dangerous combination.
Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:27:25 PM No.16700675
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:28:35 PM No.16700676
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Anonymous
6/18/2025, 3:36:27 PM No.16700682
>>16700677
Thank god
Thank god
Anonymous
6/20/2025, 8:08:09 PM No.16703609
>>16697765
what they WANT you to say is that it's not suicide if you go "durka durka" before you pop off a suicide vest.. wait...
what they WANT you to say is that it's not suicide if you go "durka durka" before you pop off a suicide vest.. wait...
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 4:45:38 PM No.16704332
>>16697791
>Despair is the realisation that life is a waste of time, either yours or all life, and that you may as well be dead. Highly dependent on the intellectual depth of the person's belief in this apparent reality.
meaning if you were sufficiently intelligent, you would recognize "life is a waste of time, I might as well be dead" as fucking retarded?
>Despair is the realisation that life is a waste of time, either yours or all life, and that you may as well be dead. Highly dependent on the intellectual depth of the person's belief in this apparent reality.
meaning if you were sufficiently intelligent, you would recognize "life is a waste of time, I might as well be dead" as fucking retarded?
Anonymous
6/21/2025, 5:25:55 PM No.16704355
>>16697765
If you were to separate real Christians who are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone from all the fake Christians who believe in salvation by works (or a self-righteous hypocrite Pharisee false gospel), you'd see it's less than Muslims. Also, the Anon makes a good point, that probably doesn't count the Jihadist suicide bombers. And the only guarantee Islam gives of entrance to heaven is by committing Jihad because Islam, like every other false religion, teaches salvation by works, and if salvation is based on what you do or promise to do or do in the future, you can't have any assurance of salvation; but if it's based on what God already did for you through Jesus Christ as the Bible teaches, then you can know you're going to heaven.
>nooo how dare you say Catholics aren't Christian
Yeah, when they'd literally burn you to death for owning or translating the Bible. Fucking SJW retards cry like idiots when you speak the truth and they don't know any history. Older generation Catholics will literally tell you "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic" but somewhere along the line, Catholics were brainwashed to act like SJW brats if you don't call their pagan idolatrous cult "Christian" despite that they teach Mary is a comediator and cosavior when the Bible plainly says only Jesus saves and only Jesus is the mediator.
Also, don't get mad at me, I didn't bring up the topic. I'm just answering.
If you were to separate real Christians who are saved by grace through faith in the Lord Jesus Christ alone from all the fake Christians who believe in salvation by works (or a self-righteous hypocrite Pharisee false gospel), you'd see it's less than Muslims. Also, the Anon makes a good point, that probably doesn't count the Jihadist suicide bombers. And the only guarantee Islam gives of entrance to heaven is by committing Jihad because Islam, like every other false religion, teaches salvation by works, and if salvation is based on what you do or promise to do or do in the future, you can't have any assurance of salvation; but if it's based on what God already did for you through Jesus Christ as the Bible teaches, then you can know you're going to heaven.
>nooo how dare you say Catholics aren't Christian
Yeah, when they'd literally burn you to death for owning or translating the Bible. Fucking SJW retards cry like idiots when you speak the truth and they don't know any history. Older generation Catholics will literally tell you "I'm not a Christian, I'm a Catholic" but somewhere along the line, Catholics were brainwashed to act like SJW brats if you don't call their pagan idolatrous cult "Christian" despite that they teach Mary is a comediator and cosavior when the Bible plainly says only Jesus saves and only Jesus is the mediator.
Also, don't get mad at me, I didn't bring up the topic. I'm just answering.
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:02:52 AM No.16704647
>>16704355
owning the bible was not the issue. churches chained bibles because they were worth (before printing presses) 30k dollars and had goild and gems embedded in them. so stealing books was a real issue, before the printing press, books were written by monks who could in a lifetime mind you only write by hand 2 before blindness took over.
t. catholic who knows Protestantism is anemic in doctrine. also we encourage bible reading with a plenary indulgence for reading scripture half and hour. we GAVE EUROPE THE FIRST ENGLISH BIBLE PROT. The Douay Rheims
owning the bible was not the issue. churches chained bibles because they were worth (before printing presses) 30k dollars and had goild and gems embedded in them. so stealing books was a real issue, before the printing press, books were written by monks who could in a lifetime mind you only write by hand 2 before blindness took over.
t. catholic who knows Protestantism is anemic in doctrine. also we encourage bible reading with a plenary indulgence for reading scripture half and hour. we GAVE EUROPE THE FIRST ENGLISH BIBLE PROT. The Douay Rheims
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Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:29:04 AM No.16704661
>>16704647
You're just a brainwashed cult member who doesn't know any real history. It's not even worth trying to reason with you cultists, you're worse posters than atheist fedoras.
You're just a brainwashed cult member who doesn't know any real history. It's not even worth trying to reason with you cultists, you're worse posters than atheist fedoras.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 12:33:20 AM No.16704665
>>16704647
>The Douay Rheims
Also, this corrupt bible makes Jesus a sinner and has "she" in Genesis 3:15 because Catholicism worships Mary. The Bible plainly says Jesus is the only savior and Jesus is the only mediator. You don't care what the Bible says because you're in a cult. You think your cult's propaganda justifies all the unbiblical garbage your cult teaches. You don't care what the Bible says, and your religion is literally a "trust the religion experts" cult for NPCs.
>The Douay Rheims
Also, this corrupt bible makes Jesus a sinner and has "she" in Genesis 3:15 because Catholicism worships Mary. The Bible plainly says Jesus is the only savior and Jesus is the only mediator. You don't care what the Bible says because you're in a cult. You think your cult's propaganda justifies all the unbiblical garbage your cult teaches. You don't care what the Bible says, and your religion is literally a "trust the religion experts" cult for NPCs.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 10:02:55 AM No.16704847
What are some hobbies to cure depression? Everything is so fucking bori g. I'm extremly restless.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:01:01 PM No.16704927
>>16697765
can you show me your moms house, i wanna learn real "islam" from her, stfu man what kinda science says that ?
can you show me your moms house, i wanna learn real "islam" from her, stfu man what kinda science says that ?
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 3:07:27 PM No.16704928
>>16697760 (OP)
best science came up with are antidepressants, which don't seem to be so effective, they're even dangerous for some folks like those with bipolar disorder
best science came up with are antidepressants, which don't seem to be so effective, they're even dangerous for some folks like those with bipolar disorder
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 4:45:14 PM No.16704962
I personally recommend reading the anatomy of melancholy (Robert Burton)
It’s a very unique book, but enjoyable. A encyclopedia of depression, almost, written during a time when the condition wasn’t understood.
It’s a very unique book, but enjoyable. A encyclopedia of depression, almost, written during a time when the condition wasn’t understood.
Anonymous
6/22/2025, 8:08:11 PM No.16705074
>>16700120
Its not that much work, but it takes like 2-3 weeks, and requires consistency.
Balloon can be substituted with any form of breathing exercise for apnea/singing/uars/etc
Its not that much work, but it takes like 2-3 weeks, and requires consistency.
Balloon can be substituted with any form of breathing exercise for apnea/singing/uars/etc
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 10:38:59 AM No.16705521
>>16697765
I've often wondered, maybe suicide in Muslim countries is under-reported, because suicide is a taboo. So if they come across someone who clearly killed themselves maybe they'll instead write it down as an "accident" rather than a suicide.
I've often wondered, maybe suicide in Muslim countries is under-reported, because suicide is a taboo. So if they come across someone who clearly killed themselves maybe they'll instead write it down as an "accident" rather than a suicide.
Anonymous
6/23/2025, 11:03:00 AM No.16705534
>>16697760 (OP)
You have to stop posting on 4chan and go out and live it. Argue belligerently and condescendingly at the bar, in the bus, in the street. Kill Jews and beat up immigrants, rape women, children and other men. Draw obscene images in public spaces and make bizarre comments unprompted. You'll feel natural and resplendently pure within days.
You have to stop posting on 4chan and go out and live it. Argue belligerently and condescendingly at the bar, in the bus, in the street. Kill Jews and beat up immigrants, rape women, children and other men. Draw obscene images in public spaces and make bizarre comments unprompted. You'll feel natural and resplendently pure within days.