Thread 16819177

Cheeky - edition

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>>16819177 (OP)
First for subsurface rockets.

>>16819180
You are really funny anon :D

spehs

for me it’s grifting with Lunar Module II

Is there so little happening in space flight that you have to comfort yourself with AI slop?

>>16819180
Theia mission when

is this a new parking garage?

>>16819177 (OP)
I can we can all agree this is the worst OP ever

>>16819196
apartment building + parking garage

>>16819197
There have been far worse

>>16819197
but it's cheeky

>>16819200
>>16819197
I got banned for posting less retarded OPs than this. OP must be a janny.

>>16819197
Examples?

>>16819184
I had to google to discover what is that thing.
Pretty cool for its time.

spaceboat

>>16819252
the turducken concept hasn't been taken far enough
we need a submersible aircraft carrier that surfaces at great speed, accelerates on hydrofoils to launch a great big subsonic plane that drops a supersonic plane from its bomb bay that has a hypersonic drone riding on top that goes beyond the karman line to launch a space vehicle which expends a stage to circularize, another to reach earth escape velocity and finally an ion drive to push the payload

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSebXD8Md3s
sex (in space)

>>16819252
space ship

>>16819196
How many staff can they stuff into that?

>>16819259
bout tree fiddy.

>>16819250
Basic /sfg/ knowledge? Lurk more my friend

https://x.com/robert_savitsky/status/1979134584622104620
>Proton-M is now assembled at Baikonur for the upcoming launch in December, awaiting stacking with the payload/fairing section.

Only eleven more Protons left

>>16819263
I thought Proton was retired

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1979151689589432372
>And "Thousand Sails" is back sailing w/ the 1st new satellites in 7 months for the G60/Qianfan constellation launched on this LM-6A at 07:08 UTC. Lots of numbers skipped this time though - after G60 Polar Group 01, 02, 03, 06 & 05, this is G60 Polar Group *18* for some reason. The large gap in batch nos. might be real indication that there are satellite manufacturing problems w/ some of the earlier batches (specifically the ones from Genesat of Shanghai, as per orbit raising behaviors of previous sats). But constellation operator Spacesail/Shanghai Spacesail Technologies seems confident now to restart deployment after a long pause since March 11. The subsequent movements of the 18 satellites of this Polar Group 18 will definitely be closely monitored from the outside.

>>16819265
Pseduo-retired. It's in the same place the Ariane 5 was for the last few years of its career. Khrunichev shut down the Proton production line back in 2022, but they still had 14 unflown boosters left in stock. They had planed to have launched all of them by now, but Russia just doesn't have that many payloads that need rides to geostationary orbit.

>>16819269
Thanks, bleh I was dumb & posted before even reading your entire post. I forgot they still had a handful left on the itinerary

Is RP1 or Propane more likely to be available in the 2040s?

>>16819242
its on topic you salty ass nigga

>>16819285
Only jeets use apu, back to your designated shitting orbit saar

>>16819285
Propane just seems like a meme. I think RP-1 will still be around for cheaper rockets and Methane will be the big boy stuff.

>>16819285
well I can't find RP-1 at my local hardware store. closest they have is kerosene. I can get propane pretty easily

Zhuque-3 Y1 getting delivered to Jiuquan. The launcher is currently on the LC-96B launch pad in preparation of a static fire in the next days before a launch in about a month.
https://x.com/LandSpace_Tech/status/1979158729577893943

>>16819292
China news is the glup shitto of spaceflight. Every other day it’s
>YF-18 has been transported to Zhinquao after a successful hot firing at Changuang. It will deliver the Yunzhao-1 satellite, with the next one being launched on the upcoming maiden flight of Universe Space’s IX-L1 medium lunch vehicle next month.

Elon's Space Empire continues its march of Evil.

Elon assisting online scammers to run slave labor call centers in the jungle.

LA flexes on Houston:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=bqMolALdVGg

>>16819301
Looks cool. I'll never go there.

>>16819301
JSC is pretty lame and none of the installments feel like they were designed with love. It’s a shame. I wish Trump or Isaacman would throw a billion or two at it and make it nice. Art deco, Beaux-Arts, something… Also we don’t need a shuttle. No one here except Cruz wants the shuttle lol

>>16819292
no one gives a shit about chinkspace you can stop posting now

>>16819296
this

>>16819305
Grim. I've only ever been to the Smith on the mall. Its got plenty nice stuff (Darkstar drone so secretive they covered the jet nozzle because fuck you)

>>16819309
I enjoy the china news posts! I just find them uninteresting compared to more domestic news like what F9 and amazon and ULA is launching.
China just has a billion boring launchers and payloads

>>16819301
Ted Cruz can't touch this.

>>16819263
won't run out for thirty years at this rate

>>16819321
do you ever get tired of underestimating Russia?

>>16819321
If they can mange the 2/year cadence that looks like the current Russian max they'll run out in late 2030. If they can only do 1/year they're look at launching from LC-81 until 2036. Given how Khrunichev is pushing to get the Angara 5 into regular operation most of those Protons are just going to end up in a rocket garden or scrapped.

Los Angeles will have not one but TWO Shuttles. The old Rockwell full size mockup is also going back on public display:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DN_qXGEfqYY

when is the next expected starship launch?

I was trying to find technical talks given by SpaceX employees but mostly came up empty. This is about the only thing that actually qualifies.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYA0f6R5KAI

>>16819333
? I thought the Shuttle got destroyed, I saw pictures on /sfg/

>>16819338
w 2eeks

>>16819339
>Simulations
I thought they don't do that in SpaceX.

>>16819343
The truth is SpaceX does more CFD and computer analysis than ULA or Boeing.
That talking point is retarded. The company is just run way better and the incentives are aligned

>>16819343
https://youtu.be/xahiWQQKw7Y?si=KKomCccMYh8lGQHj
Straight from the horses's mouth. They simulate and they also test a lot and early.

>>16819343
why would they not? do you really think they caught the booster first try after not simulating anything?

>>16819345
14 years ago lel

>>16819345
>Stupid background music
I can't watch this.

>>16819345
>pajeet replying to me

>>16819352
That's from the time when they were the cool California tech startup (tm)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AcaBI_I0Td0

>>16819327
Wow basic math. I'm impressed

>>1681935
The bar here is very low, to be fair

So those nasa spaceflight people said some of the engine bells on the booster for flight 11 were bent and hadnt been fixed since its initial landing. is this true? imagine if they never fix bells and just fly with bent engines. maybe the pressure of the exhaust automatically straightens the bells?

>once around... eris!
BASED

>“What you have here is about 150 years’ combined experience at the top leadership level of this agency,” Draper recalled arguing, “You're telling me you can't find a place for these talented people?”

Then he dropped to the ground and started to cry and kick his feet.

>>16819366
things dont have to be perfect you know? they only have to work. enough with the autistic requirement that everything be shiny and just so. remember how they made the ships look used and beat up in Star Wars? thats because its realistic.

New space related fetish unlocked.

You know, JPL founders were in freaky sex cult. Guess that tradition has continued.

>>16819297
that's like blaming the roads for drunk drivers

>>16819369
I never said they should polish the ship and give it a lick of paint. I just thought the bell might fail if it wasnt the right shape on ignition.

>>16819309
I appreciate the chink updates.

>>16819372
Actually, there is a situation here. The big telecoms bought off the government so they're protested, but the Feds have been going after small firms and voi providers being used by scammers. Elon may get some grief here. More bad PR at the least.

>>16819305
Three hour drive to JSC for me and I can't gaf about shittle.
I got to see one (probably Endeavor or Atlantis) taking off one morning on its carrier plane, so I have even less need.

>all those specific tiles
Shittle 2.0

>>16819366
dynamic control algorithms
handling an under-performing engine is not much different from handling an engine out

>>16819368
kek, this is based

>>16819368
>you can't find a place for these talented people?
tell them to get in line with the rest of us who can't even get call-backs from companies

>>16819379
One they have a stable design, the installation can been automated. That's pick and place.

>>16819368
ARE WE WINNING YET?

>>16819379
you now remember transpiration cooling

>>16819373
doesn't matter. thats why they have so many extras.

>>16819379
95% of them are straight up hexagons (aka bestagons)
Most of the rest are a hexagon with a straight cut
But every fucking Shittle tile was a snowflake

>>16819384
So... who's gonna bring us Mars samples now

Can you take a picture of me being emotionally distraught for my Insta? Thank you SO much!"

https://x.com/mcrs987/status/1979231198699237519

Starship bath over boca

>>16819391
quick, give Boing a cost-plus contract for MSR while nobody is looking

>>16819391
>le commercial

>>16819393
path

>>16819392
>Patel
I hear that ISRO is hiring.

>>16819379
And it will definitely become worse in the future. I feel like either starships for humans won't be reused or they will be refurbished shuttle style.

>>16819399
Tunnel for what?

>>16819394
NB: The Rover is almost out of sample tubes. Think it's down to a half dozen. But even though the Rover could go on for years, there was no plan to resupply with new tubes from MSR.

>>16819399
That would be cool. To go from Russia to America without flying over the ocean. I was going to say "would be cool to go from Russia to America without taking a flight", but that would mean spending a week on a train to get from where I live to the Bering Straight, and I don't like train rides.

>>16819399
hell fucking no

>>16819391
who gives a fuck
we'll analyze the rocks on Mars

>>16819296
>>16819292
>>16819309
I'm interested but that anon is right, you never get launch footage or anything because they are terrified of bad news, so all you get are pics of nothing.
Lets see them fuck up reusables for a year or two and at least make it interesting. I doubt we'll see one blow up.

>>16819400
About cargo mode I wonder what would be the cost of and expendable ship, without tiles, ablative shield, fins, landing tanks and maybe it wouldn't even need those three sea level engines.
Which means also a lot more payload, so even cheaper.

>>16819399
lmao, Putin plays trump for the fool and it's so funny. 2 more weeks.

>>16819401
Tanks and Russian prostitutes

>>16819393
>aerobraking
>aerolift
Spaceplane

>>16819399
How reasonable it it to transport freight across subarctic / tundra climes as opposed to cargo ships?
Chukotka is not connected by rail to the trans Siberian railway so that would have to be built. The rail gauges are also not compatible so you can't just simply drive the same trains across USA to Russia

>>16819399
Hmm, looks like it's a bit less than 2 chunnels worth of tunneling. Of course neither side has much on either end, so it would be sort of a bridge both to and from nowhere.
The important question: which rail gauge would they use inside? I doubt that RU uses the same rail gauge as US.

>>16819392
>What does your job entail?
>Today, I challenge myself to be the expert the agency needs as we develop our science priorities in space. This means ensuring we are investing in the science it takes to enable exploration and a return investment to life on Earth. This leadership position requires foresight and relationship building because almost all innovative advances are the result of partnerships and teams.
complete non-answer on the "what would you say you do here?" question
good riddance

>>16819326
their last Proton launch was a couple years ago. Don't see much demand, especially with Angara A5 finally coming online.

>>16819393
>>16819412
Starship is a spaceplane

>>16819413
It's obviously a bullshit proposal to make Trump delay any action in support of Ukraine for 2 more weeks. After that he will gie another 2 week ultimatum to Putin, Putin will resond with a phone call about 2 weeks after that and the cycle will repeat in about a fortnight.

>>16819399
yeah, but how would you get from Alaska to the United States?
getting to some non-location in the middle of the Alaskan wilderness accomplishes nothing
even worse, it's simply connected to another non-location literally in Siberia

>>16819413
>How reasonable it it to transport freight across subarctic / tundra climes as opposed to cargo ships?
Imagine driving a truck from New York to San Francisco, except on worse roads it's colder than you've ever experienced unless it's late spring, summer, or early autumn. This is just the Siberian part of the trip, now you also need to drive through west Russia to get to Europe.

>>16819417
sir, this is a spaceplane

>>16819392
AYO HOL UP
SO YOU BE SAYIN
WE WUZ CHINESE EMPERORS N SHIET

>>16819392
well, we have to fix earth's problems first, i thought everyone agreed on that

>>16819431
why pay JPL 10 bil if you could pay rocketlab 1bil for the same thing?
these incompetent money vacuums are holding spaceflight back

>>16819436
if you give jpl 10b they'll deliver a 2b product. if you give rl 1b they'll deliver an 800m product. nasa wants a 10b product, so they pick jpl

>>16819436
Do you actually believe rocketlab would manage that?

>>16819439
Peter Beck is the most competent CEO in the industry. He's like what if Musk wasn't a clown.

>>16819436
>why pay JPL
So that our space endeavors don't depend on the whims of shareholders, CEOs, and the irrational market?

>>16819415
lol

>>16819441
>if Musk wasn't a clown.
*launches another transporter mission*

>>16819443
lol
pay for performance you retarded fuck

>>16819439
yes, so would spacex for that matter but spacex isn't really interested in doing small side missions
the ISS deorbit thing is probably more of a "favor" than anything else (nobody else can really do it and spacex can do it relatively painlessly)

>>16819441
>reusable carbon fiber second stage

>>16819452
the second stage is expended

>>16819431
"The poor shall be with you always..."
Even Jesus dosen't believe in that

>>16819441
>"Self taught " "Engineer"
>$6 NZ net worth -- all of it in his bubble company stock
>Everyone thinks he's someone else. The drummer in KISS or something.

Is Starship the only thing Super Heavy can launch?

Like, when it's complete, would it be a tremendous challenge to make an alternative simple clamshell second stage to deliver fuckhuge space telescopes or space station modules to orbit?

>>16819441
>Peter Beck is the most competent CEO in the industry! He just is okay!

Rocket Lab

Annual net income for 2024: -$190.18 million.
Quarterly net income for Q2 2025: -$66.41 million.

*chortle*

>>16819461
that's what new glenn is for

>>16819461
It would be hard, you would still need powerful second stage.

>>16819461
They would probably do a clamshell expendable Starship at some point or figure out how to do the hungry hippo fairing with the heat shield and flaps.
No way in hell Elon would allocate any resources to building another second stage or integrating someone else's.
That's not happening

>>16819470
hungry hippo nose is inevitabily the long term design of starship. It's proven that openings on shields are possible by the space shuttle landing gear.

>>16819441
Lookin good, champ

>>16819481
What's upmass?

>>16819480
You don't really need to open the heat shield at all.
Just have the non tiled half open up and eject the satellites with some sidewards velocity.

>>16819481
Starlink doesn't count.

>>16819485
holy cope
btw how's that rocketlab dc2 constellation going?

>>16819462
So what you're saying is that they're heavily focused on investing into product development?

They got a $777m injection from their SPAC merger in 2021; I assume they're still investing that money.

>>16819485
Why not?

>>16819488
>SPAC merger in 2021
they really never stood a chance. unfortunate

Is Sally Ride cool or lame?

>>16819485
>Starlink doesn't count!

Giant Moa hands typed that.

>>16819488
>Get $777m in 2021
>Lose it all

Net
Loss

>>16819491
Artificial demand. RocketLab could also reach those numbers if they had their own constellation.

>>16819487
Any updates on the Rocket Lab Mars Sample Return? Still going strong?

>>16819485
There ya go. only 10X more than China now

>>16819499
With what rocket

>>16819499
>I could do that but I don't wanna!

Oh, this is getting embarrassing.

>>16819499
If only Rocket Lab had wheels then they could be a bike

Cope worldwide outage we all know who the nigger who's coping is its a chink most likely indian

>>16819511
Is this the chic who got waylaid in her tesla at starbase and almost died

>>16819514
It wasn't at Starbase it was in Florida ahead of Inspiration4 launch

>>16819514
shhhhh it's bait for the aislopper.

>>16819499
artifical demand that is printing money for SpaceX on the tune of 2x their launch revenue (and this is just the beginning)

>>16819514
>waylaid
how does this happen wtf

>>16819522
surprised she still has the leg

>>16819502
Okay, my bad, I thought it was the graph about number of launches. Still, my point stands. Of course SpaceX will be able to launch more mass into orbit if they have a bigger rocket in the first place, it's like comparing apples to oranges. Now, imagine if Falcon 9 was scaled down to the size of Electron, or the other way round, then that would be a fair metric.

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1979271919850618919
>Starship ascends to space

>>16819525
Yeah

>>16819528
China has bigger rockets too, they just don't use them very much, and leave it to the Long March 2 most of the time.

>>16819528
If only Electron had wheels then they could be a bike

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1979261047182635135

2 videos

Look at those tits!

>>16819483
I dunno, you tell me what's up Doc?

>>16819483
It's similar to updog

>>16819522
Holy shit

>>16819549
Be respectful anon :(
but yeah lol

>>16819441
>Peter Beck is the most competent CEO in the industry.

>>16819441
dinner is served

>>16819582
That's a light meal.

>>16819519
ooga booga where the bicyclists at

>>16819595
not so sure she would be able to bike after her legs got that fucked up

Why couldn't they use pad A to test catch a ship?

Why are Falcon 9s white and not metallic

>>16819601
thankfully grok was able to patch up her leg in the first few frames

>>16819549
@gork animate her boobs expanding

Phobos in KSA.

>>16819616
Why is it so easy for space sims to get Earth's atmosphere and clouds looking good, but Mars always looks like an ugly brown ball when the atmosphere looks like this?

>>16819607
because they paint them with white paint and not metallic paint

>>16819607
not made from steel

>>16819616
>Phobos surface area: 16,400±8 km2
>Saudi Arabia land area: 2,150,000 km2
checks out

>>16819620
It doesn't look that different. What is that white layer? Clouds? When Blackrack does his magic I'm sure it'll look good too.

>>16819616
Is there any better place to figure out asteroid colonisation than Phobos?

I unironically work for Boeing and have my finger on the pulse of the place pretty well. Morale's been up bigly recently and there's been a real shift internally, not to spoil anything but there's some pretty big stuff in the works regarding Starliner II. Might be a good time to buy in, not financial advice.

>>16819634
Sorry I meant to schedule this post for April 1st, my b

>>16819636
Whats that supposed to mean?

>>16819644
Blue sunsets look unwholesome

>>16819610
It really doesn't like boobs :-(

>>16819663
HAHAHAHA

>>16819610
there was a way

>>16819666
good work, Satan

>>16819408
idk what to tell you, orienspace just entirely livestreamed their latest launch with onboards, the chinese private are less afraid than some american companies.

Quitting /sfg/ until something absolutely revolutionary happens (very low TRL)

>>16819677
see you tomorrow

>>16819666
Can you start namefagging so I can filter your posts

>>16819677
don't forget
you're here forever

>>16819686
sure, what name should I use?

>>16819666
The milkship has arrive.

>>16819666
I was hoping for a wet T-shirt contest

bitch is mid as fuck and not even spaceflight

>wake up
>nothing at all happened today
ugh

>>16819724
spaceflight

>>16819727
thats what im talking about. nothing happened today. all we got was a small hit piece about starshield and thats it.

>>16819729
yeah i know

>le glass bubbles that we will then keep stacked ontop of its module and fill with regolith
What the fuck even is this. Why would you fund this retarded idea that would probably take multiple decades to even get a prototype launched and powered.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5lMst6McUs

>>16819746
I'm skeptical of any Insitu structure honestly. in the near term we can just ship inflatables with starship.

>>16819746
the words "insanely retarded" come to mind
they're going to make a giant structure (25 stories or so high according to their image) by inflating it with "high pressure gas"
later they say it's going to be filled with argon
just to get that thing to 1 atmosphere they'd need like 400 tons of argon
where is the gas coming from? if it's not argon they're making it on the moon, so I guess it's oxygen but they don't describe making any
making enough "high pressure gas" to inflate a 25 story high molten glass bubble is much harder than the part of the project they actually describe

>>16819746
it doesn't take long for this to look retarded

>>16819750
O2 would be a byproduct from processing regolith but even then it's still silly to make your habitat out of fucking glass like why. there is abundant regolith to use to make concrete structures or you can process the metals and make aluminum or titanium

>>16819753
yeah, just sinter some fucking rocks and you're done

>>16819755
ICON mentioned

>>16819752
Is tipping included in the bill?

>>16819753
>>16819755
Isn't sintering the rocks producing glass?
That's how I understood it.
Landing pads would essentially be made by driving a heater over flattened soon and it ends up being that brown moon glass

>>16819752
timber!!

>>16819763
"glass" is any substance with no ordered crystalline structure. they dont all have the same material properties as silica glass

>>16819755
>Just like they do in construction on Earth

Wait. That's not how they do it on Earth. So there's probably a lot more involved than just that.

>>16819770
yeah, because on earth you can buy construction materials
but on the moon all you have is fucking rocks
heating them up is like the simplest thing you can do short of just breaking them

>>16819746
>Why?

NASA DEI NIAC. The CEO of this company that is going to build glass house on the Moon is in delivering tortillas in Mexico:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/dr-martin-bermudez-07722311

>>16819776
You don't even know how a driveway is constructed on Earth, let alone buildings, roads and airports. Please stop posting. You're making us look bad.

>>16819695
Well, that's a development...

>>16819661
Because it's the opposite of here on Earth.

>>16819767
I get that it's not going to be like what we've gotta in windows but still I thought that was the main outcome of lunar regolith, don't think you can make like proper bricks out of it in an oven, it's basically always going to be glass
The whole things a moot point though because that stupid fucking video has all this effort for the shell then fills it with a million tonnes of stuff you need to bring from earth anyway

>>16819780
shut up, faggot
I've poured driveways and that has nothing to do with this

wtf rocket is that in the back? Is it sloppa?

>read about eLORAN
>wikipedia article on LORAN mentions it in passing
>never updated again for 15 years
That website is dying, just not in the way I expected. You see this kind of shit everywhere. Looks like DoD and DHS are in fact serious about eLORAN and the retards in gov't who shut it down and blocked funding for eLORAN because it threatened GPS funding are finally gone. I won't even mention procurement has already been bungled by at least one agency because that is the norm these days.

>>16819177 (OP)
Is there an updated version of this?

>>16819794
My closest guess is that it's an Atlas V 431, but that doesn't make much sense. It'd be weird if it's slop considering the sheer number of perfectly good public-domain images for rockets, but given that it has what appears to be an escape tower... maybe it is.

>this guy is confined to a wheelchair
wtf i never knew this whole time

>On May 16, 2006, a bully punched Rosenstein so hard that he fell to his knees. Two days later, he screamed out at home.
>“We picked him up and called an ambulance,” his father told the newspaper. "He hasn't walked since."
>Rosenstein was paralyzed from the waist down due to a clot that had formed after the blow in a major artery above his abdomen. When the clot moved down to his spine, it burst, leaving him paralyzed. Complications resulting from his paralysis, such as scoliosis, led to 19 surgeries and a complete spinal fusion. He almost died several times, Youngman said.
did he get punched by goku

>>16819806
>>16819794
Atlas V (or any American rocket?) ever had four boosters. The tower makes me think LC39, but the configuration is all wrong. Also escape tower on a fairing.

>>16819817
There is a recent story about something similar. A clot from a punch causes a teen to become disabled. No idea how that happens.

>>16819821
>any American rocket ever had four boosters
This is worded like a statement. Was it supposed to be a question?
Anyways, I can only see 3, and the orientation of the rockets is a bit weird, so I figured maybe it was an assymetrical booster configuration. As it so happens, the Atlas V HAS an assymetrical 3 booster configuration. It's the 431. (Technically, there is also the 531, which is the same thing but with a 16 foot fairing, but that looks like a stouter fairing to me.)

>>16819821
>any American rocket ever had four boosters
This is worded like a statement. Was it supposed to be a question?
Anyways, I can only see 3, and the orientation of the rockets is a bit weird, so I figured maybe it was an assymetrical booster configuration. As it so happens, the Atlas V HAS an assymetrical 3 booster configuration. It's the 431. (Technically, there is also the 531, which is the same thing but with a 16 foot fairing, but that looks like a leaner fairing to me.)

I originally said stouter fairing, oops.

Say you took Mars but replaced all the surface iron with copper, would we get a green sand desert planet?

>>16819838
yes

>>16819839
friggin aweseom

Oh, and uh, if you're curious, yes the U.S. has used the 431. Specifically, Echostar has used it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2pxYlm5z45I&t=4536

>>16819838
Probably, but it looks like Minmus with an atmosphere when you do that.

>>16819837
I guess I should have elaborated further.

The pic has quite thick SRBs compared to the core. The ends also taper into cones not smoothly like with Atlas.

>>16819842
Oh, lol
Yeah to be honest I clocked that instantly too, but for some reason I forgot to mention it the first time. "that doesn't make much sense" was me admitting that my guess didn't pass a sniff test beyond "hey, the general concept for what appears to be an Atlas V is there."
It's still such a weird ass thing to generate. Like, honestly, there's so many other images you could use freely...

>vast mission control has a false floor to hide all the cabling
working there must be suffering. anything that moves will send vibrations thoughout mission control, giving people nausea and uncomfortable feelings. you work in a high stress environment but they design a shitty work area for you because muh clean design aesthetic.

>>16819845
Firstly, which mission control room? You mean ALL of them? They certainly don't put the cables in the ceilings, because that would obstruct the bigger screens.
Secondly, what the fuck are you talking about? "Giving people nausea and uncomfortable feelings?" "Anything that moves will send vibrations throughout mission control?" The latter doesn't even happen with decent false flooring, and the former is nonsensical. No one's going to panic because I'm stamping my feet while thinking.

>>16819849
i used to work in an office with false floors and that bitch had uncomfortable vibrations when people walked around. there's no reason workers should be getting motion sickness at a desk.

>>16819850
You're right! There is no reason workers should be getting motion sickness at a desk!
. . . which is why I'm baffled that my completely underfunded community college that couldn't afford to replace their abestos dorms for several decades apparently had BETTER false flooring than your office job.

>>16819514
>waylaid
What does that mean?

>>16819832
it's been happening quite a lot more than it used to

>>16819852
In this context, stopped or interrupted abruptly and unpleasantly.

>>16819817
Poor kid. Perhaps I was too harsh on him

>>16819757
I wonder if it will be more power or time efficient to sinter the regolith into bricks first then laser weld them together.

>>16819852
>You have been waylaid by lunchtime rowdies and most defend yourself

>>16819763
Sintering is fusing particles together (like in pottery or bricks). There is relatively lots of pores that make it brittle. The benefit is you can shape it cold.
You can melt just about any rock to lava if you heat a bit more, but then you have to cast it (pic rel)

For glass, you need high% of silica, with very little other minerals
Typically, you also add flux to lower the melting temperature and allow it to retain amorphous state without crystallisation.
Lava (raw molten regolith) doesn't have the same viscosity and strength glass has, so blowing bubble out of it is pure fantasy.

>>16819385
THEY TOOK MY SWEATY GIRL FROM ME

>>16819817
I hate assholes who "vacation" in Scottsdale. Kill yourselves, get out of my state. There is nothing of value in that soulless shithole town.

>>16819883
>SNNNIIIFFFFFFFF SNNNNEEERRRRT

>>16819841
Why would the dust still be red? Wouldn't it be blue also?

"Hey Hey! OMG!"

>>16819905
Youtube thumbnails are a literal cancer on the planet

>>16819817
>get punched
>spend two whole days thinking about how to maximize profits
>luckily you have several doctors and lawyers in your family
>make up a story that defies reality but you have the best expert witnesses and lawyers
>the bully's lawyer tries to defend him, anti-semitically pointing out the implausible nature of the claim
>judge assigned to the case is a co-religionist
>bully's family offers to settle immediately
I'm only surprised he didn't get more

>>16819817
vaxx status?

>>16819915
the family didnt get sued afaik, it was the school district. so the taxpayers paid him the money.

>>16819817
>the New Jersey school board in the district where he was a student has agreed to a $4.2 million settlement
so fucking disgusting. the perpetrator got away unpunished. instead the tax payer had to pay big time. how are tax payers so cucked that this happens every time?

How do we solve this?

>>16819920
damn. if weenus was not so hot it would be a great place for solar.

>>16819922
Not really because on the surface it's even darker than Mars.

>>16819920
collapse Jupiter into fusion

>>16819920
its not a problem on mars, but i believe i read that we need improved solar tech to do jupiter. it was awhile back so we might've already caught up on the solar tech.

>>16819924
Why is it rocks and desert everywhere we go

>>16819927
A geochemist would say because gibbs free energy wants to tend towards an equilibrium

>>16819384
But seriously? Are we winning yet?
https://www.planetary.org/articles/promoted-on-sunday-fired-on-monday-inside-a-nasa-offices-sudden-closure

>>16819930
ffs I read this as "it gibbs free energy"

>>16819930
Then why is Earth so alive?

>>16819924
for it to be cooler I thought not having a 90 bar atmosphere was taken as a given

Thanks for letting us know there's probably Martian life living on the ice caps, but NASA only likes to look at sand dunes, or craters, or sand dunes in craters.

>>16819935
Idk. Life and living organisms, at least as we know it, is strange and goes against these principals, increasing overall entropy. One of God’s great mysteries

>>16819937
please understand

poles too hard to get to

>>16819905
THATS INSANE

>>16819905
You now remember this.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqGQ-qkoZOk

>>16819946
also mass autism

real scientific instruments too heavy

>latest MECO is just some boomer CNN reporter seething about getting refused an interview with SpaceX/Shotwell and equating SpaceX doing fade-to-blacks for explosions now to the USSR's censorship
lmao
just get over it dude

>>16819920
Move the sun closer

>>16819967
b-but the poor earthlings

https://x.com/Erdayastronaut/status/1979542069946552550
>More official renders of Starship including the tanker, depot and HLS lander just dropped! I still think HLS should drop anything not needed after TLI (Raptors / Tankage)...

https://ntrs.nasa.gov/citations/20250008727

>>16819978
shits getting real

>>16819920
if you are still using solar by the time you colonize the outer solar system you're NGMI

>>16819918
>>16819919
Wait, how does this make any sense?
Person A assaulted Person B, so everybody else has to pay Person B?
Why? Isn't this on Person A? Why is everybody else on the hook for a single penny?
What the fuck is this excuse for justice?

>>16819920
Helium 3, if this won't work, Uranium, if this won't work, geothermal.

>>16819922
>>16819925
>>16819926
>>16819967
>>16819984
>>16819994
I was talking about the psychological effects, spergs.

>>16819920
whats the problem? also, special light bulbs

>>16819997
Don't care, still voting Trump.

>>16819999
checkt

>>16819922
>>16819924
>>16819927
>surface
retards

>>16820017
Why not go a little higher until temps are sub 30 and you'd be able to walk around with nothing but an oxygen breather. Also Venus' upper atmosphere is whitish-yellow not blue.

>>16820018
You could but it's easier to blame the intern who made that for being retarded.

Venus is for foids

>>16819978
>What's the difference between a tanker and a depot?
how do these people breathe

Boys go to Jupiter to get stupider

>>16820032
girls go to Venus to get peenus?

It does seem like 55-58km is a sweet spot. You wouldn't want to go outside in the clouds though so navigating around the taller ones is likely needed to go outside. There's going to be areas with lower cloud tops I would assume.

>>16820035
fug

>>16819919
My family got less for a boat explosion that maimed my mother and sister. Guess I shoulda got Jew lawyers

>>16820042
sorry about that explosion btw. won't happen again boss.

>>16820032
you dropped this

>>16820049
why aren't they on bikes

MOOOM OTP-2 IS ACTING WEIRD AGAIN

>>16819978
MOGGED

>>16820052
You and the ass guy should get a room and you can entertain yourselves with your nonsense.

>>16820056
>needing AI to explain what has been known for centuries

>>16819978
https://x.com/KenKirtland17/status/1979561031535120692

>>16820052
>apogee altitude goes down
>perigee altitude goes up at the same time
>you can't explain this!
fucking magnets, how do they work?!

>>16820063
line go up, line go down you can't explain that

why build in moon lava toob when we can make lava toob

I wonder if there will be a some sort of conflict because of Mars in this century. I think Phobos could maybe have a huge benefit in colonizing Mars and it isn't that big, in picture I have illustrated its surface area. So maybe there will be a race to colonize Phobos with possibly military engagements.

>>16820078
>T72 is on Phobos
>fires main gun once
>T72 is now on Deimos

>>16820080
strategic redeployment

>>16820069
Because it's already there and facilitates an easier first-foothold. That isn't to say we could take a boring machine and expand it. I think an area with already-in-place lava tubes also helps reveal local subsurface geology as locally homogenous and structurally welcoming to more and more anthropological underground tubes and caverns versus other more sandy/unstable areas of the Moon

Is this the new one or old?
https://x.com/Starlink/status/1979594186816098799

where the fuck is the drone shot

why tease it in the stream if you're not gonna show it

>>16820099
Ship landed too far away from the target for the drone to see it.

>>16820099
It hit the drone

>>16820099
Is SpaceX pretty independent at this point with the sheer amount of Starlink revenue, or do they still have a lot of private investors like google, steve jurveston, founders fund, fidelety, etc that they are beholden to? I wonder if Elon has deduced that a significant portion of his overall investors in to SpaceX have started getting annoying when they see headlines about exploding rockets, so he has decided to purposefully cut those out for the time being and also purposefully drip-feed some of the kinography shots to just keep all the investors happy and chugging along without any complaints

>>16819498
Yes, they're "losing" the money because they're investing it into new products? Engineer salaries, etc.

>>16820110
people with Sp*ceX brain don't listen to rational info when it comes to other companies.

Is Kepler 452b the final home of humanity?

>>16819920
Simple and effective

>>16820055
It's a meme, you dip

>>16820058
That's not what portmanteau means

>>16819997
>erm actually my vague bait question was actually about this not that.
Kys faggot

>>16820100
it landed right next to the buoy retard

>>16820056
>no fossils on Mars
That we know of.
Just wait till we find a coal vein on the moon

>>16820100
>Ship landed too far away from the target
They are going to completely the launch tower aren't they?

>>16820126
and here i was thinking de nial was a river in egypt

>>16820108
If the company is structured correctly, Elon doesn't really have to worry as much about keeping investors happy. Consider also that the investor pool for Spacex is mostly comprised of people that share the actual vision instead of "line go up every quarter or I shit and piss everywhere."
But to answer your first question, yes, Starlink is now paying for itself and producing enough cash flow into the company as a whole that the scales are heavily leaning in Spacex's favor in any kind of negotiations/agreements with investors and lenders. Spacex will almost certainly keep raising investor money and borrowing funds because that's how you grow aggressively, but the giant cash pipeline that is Starlink gives them the leeway to basically write their own terms.

>>16820130
you can see the buoy on the stream and there is footage from the buoy
it was like 50m away

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1978905901344907726

>>16820133
I don't think it will take many years until they don't really need to raise cash anymore assuming they dont' start spamming a lot of starships at mars
and when they are ready to do that starlink should really print money

>>16820108
Elon is dictator. If the investors don't like it they can fuck off and sell their shares, unsurprisingly they don't.

>>16820137
Most of the recent cash raises were just opportunities to sell shares for people who wanted to.

>>16820126
it landed too close to the buoy and the camera couldnt focus

>>16820117
no, it’s gonna be some stupid lame supercomputer network here in our solar system that we try to eternally protect as all futurefags upload their consciousness to it and try to “beat God” and live forever

>>16820140
yeah that too, secondaries

>>16820099
did you skip the previous thread? there are links to drone shots there

https://x.com/SpaceX/status/1978179844656480423

>>16819896
I just hue shifted it man, I don't know why the red kept being red.

>>16819985
I think the logic goes is that Person B warned the school that Person A was going to do it. They ignored B, which enabled A to actually escalate into a punch.

>>16820163
what the fuck

In the non-gay timeline Brits would be launching rockets from here and colonising the Solar System. It even has the perfect name.

How does anyone truly hate this dude?
I just stumbled across this tweet and I can't stop fucking laughing

>>16820183
its tru do, chess is a game for retards. however diablo 4 is too

>>16819920
Light cabins fitted with white-hot lamps with an extremely high lumen factor. Same cabins should also have IR and UV bulbs fitted for heat, tanning and vitamin-D production. Each therapy treatment lasts an hour or two daily, bathing the person in light and heat to ward off depression and the heat allows for proper rest and a reduced metabolism, reducing daily caloric intake needs. UV lamps will be automatically turned off if the person has exceeded daily UV exposure limits.

Proper lightning throughout the base and special colours for the walls also aid in modulating brightness and helping the circadian rhythm. Example being that work-spaces should have bright lights, bright neutral/pastel colours and roomy and bedrooms for example should have warmer, dimmer lights with reddish/brownish colours, hue's and be cozy. Heating should also be adjustable.

>>16820183
chess is boring as fuck. There is a reason chess champions are never useful outside of chess. it attracts the kind of math brained automatons who like to memorise shit and have no creative thought. Not really true intelligence imo.

FLIGHT 12 POLYMARKET IS ONLINE!

>>16820198
>If the 12th SpaceX Starship successfully launches from its launch pad by November 30, 2025, 11:59 PM ET, this market will resolve to “Yes”. Otherwise, this market will resolve to “No.”

>>16820147
Wait till they find out uploading is a scam since it's just a copied brain scan and the jeet technician forgot to terminate your brain after the scan

2026 is going to be the most exciting year for space travel since 1969

>Haven-1
>Starship orbital refueling
>Artemis-2
>Sierra LIFE
>Starship full reuse

The space age we were promised for so long is actually finally beginning
No more vaporware
No more setbacks
No stopping until Andromeda

>>16820207
inb4 everything gets kicked back to Q4 (a.k.a scrubbed another year and then some)

>>16820204
uploading wouldn't even do anything. consciousness isn't reducible to just the firing of neurons or 1s and 0s on a computer. there is a quantum aspect to consciousness that we aren't aware of yet.

>>16820207
Just like 2025 was supposed to be an exciting year for starship and all we ended up getting was failures.

>>16820218
third times the charm

>>16820213
And do you have any evidence of that or you are just asking to trust your instinct?

>>16820198
>November 30

>>16820183
ouch. I really love chess, used to study it and play it every day, it's like my comfort game. This is not the first time he criticizes it, and he's right at the end. It's something that is not much useful outside of just... playing chess. It'll still be my guilty pleasure, though.

>>16820224
I have personal experiential evidence which is indisputable for me but not enough for the wider scientific community. Not going to pretend otherwise.

>>16820204
Soma moment.

One corner of the internet is saying that SpaceX has grown negligent of HLS development and sees Artemis as politically unstable–thus any lander dev is secondary to simply getting Starship operational
for Starlink growth (which is almost guaranteed at this point produce more money for them than the artemis contract could ever dish out)
Another corner is saying that ‘Lon is just being sneaky, and that for whatever reason they are for sure working on & prioritizing HLS under cover of night, and somehow HLS SS is just going to emerge next year out of a spooktent completed and ready to fly a long-duration test mission
Is the truth likely somewhere in between?

>>16820243
as someone who has worked with the HLS team, yes they're serious about it.

>>16820243
>for Starlink growth (which is almost guaranteed at this point produce more money for them than the artemis contract could ever dish out)
it already does

>>16820207
>ignores new glenn

>>16819633
Proximity with Mars makes things a bit different from a random free flying asteroid in the belt (e.g. can't get continuous sunlight), but yeah, it's the perfect playground. I wish it was in orbit around Earth, stuff like ISRU would have been solved for ages.

>>16820236
OK THEN BACK OFF. PUNK.

>>16820259
doesn't make it any less true

>>16820163
I get it

>>16820253
I was actually about to ask "the fuck is New Glenn gonna do that's interesting"

>look it up
>they're sending an uncrewed Blue Moon lander to the moon in two months

sheeeeeeit I didn't realize they were that ready, I'm gonna laugh my ass off if Blue Origin goes from agonizingly slow to warp speed overnight

>>16820262
they just don't show their work publically much
and bluemoon mk1 doesn't need orbital refilling?

Reminder that the Moon, Mars, Ceres, Callisto, and all other heavenly bodies belong to Britannia.

>>16819633
>>16820257
Another issue is that you probably don't want to shit up Mars orbits with a fuckton of dust.

soon bros

>>16820265
Kek, make sure that there even is a Britain left at the end of this century. Otherwise, dreaming about colonizing the rest of the system is one that is forever (For Brits that is).

>>16820265
All hail Britannia
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CCIK0jg-yxk

I can't wait for the cuckpod era to be over.
The Shuttle was supposed to deliver us from it, only to retvrn to cuckpod

>>16820270
Sandbraking. A technique for landing large payloads on Mars using the sands of Phobos

https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S1270963817300664

>>16820284
The Shittle was way worse then any of the cuckpods safe for perhaps Shitliner. Glad that Starship is here though, finaly something that moves spaceflight forward.

>>16820290
>pocket sand yourself to slow down
what the fuck

>>16820062
.614 km^3 :)

>>16820262
Absolutely zero chance of this happening successfully. Jeff did a ferociter when he should have graditimed

https://x.com/TheChiefNerd/status/1979636589279273285

lol apparently joe rogan got a tour of starbase

>>16820307
That's high praise from someone who has done a bunch of psychedelic drugs.

>>16820296
If BO makes a lander and NASA puts people in it, they will certainly die

>>16820262
they are not launching this year, you can bet on it.

If you were the great Bezos, would you be happy with your position after all these years and $15B spent?

>>16820334
With my current knowledge of how bad blue is, NO...
I firmly believe, however, that Jeffrey Bezos seriously believes BO is neck-and-neck competitive with SpaceX right now. He sees himself as equal, delusionally

>>16820334
He's won quite a bit of contract without having to deliver anything. Just because "I HATE ELON MUSK" reason

>>16820307
isn't he a FEther?

>>16820339
who knows

>>16820334
probably doesn't even notice that money and gets to have a potentially cool rocket company.

>>16819401
don't be antisemitic

>>16820339
depends which strain of weed he's smoking at any one time.

>>16819469
ok, how about a starship with no flaps and no tiles just a nose that comes off?

>>16820359
not fully reusable

Is terrorism a big issue for P2P?
From the perspective of a anti rich/environmentalist terrorist a starship loaded up with wealthy travelers represent very high value and ease of execution as just a drone or ula sniper equals most probable death...
I think the counter is to allocate some of the seats to poor third world kids, demotivating any foul play

>>16819616
if you set off little nukes in the focus of that crater you could make it into an orion ship

>>16819638
it's a joke

>>16820337
and because he made his own company buy from BO

>>16819913
Blame LTT

>>16820339
>"hey man like no one knows for sure right?"
>actually we do here is evidence, proof and records
>"yeah. yeah but like no one still knows? like I don't know?"

>>16820374
based not-sure-about-that-er

>>16820361
I'm not asking for it to be reusable, just for it to put a very large object in space.

>>16820171
Wait til they figure out it's because they designed it to land on Mars first

>>16820380
no point in a partially reusable starship

>>16820110
"Rocket Lab: Venus in 2025!,

>>16820380
If you have a working Starship, you launch a hold full of sub assemblies and build the large object in space.

>>16820385
Starship Moon 2024.
See how easy that was?

Damn joe rogan actually has insane insight into this now kek he hit the nail directly on its head and drove the nail down to the center of the earth

>>16820383
shit bait, tard

>>16820401
you don't get sub 100$/kg by expending starships. you just don't.

Pennies for venus missions

>>16820307
I bet his video would have been better than EDA tour video

>>16820470
remember the time EDA gave elon the idea that doomed several flights. I member

wen hop?

fuck the hop wen mars

>>16819301
They started building this when I was in High School.
I'm now 10 years into my career, married, and have a daughter on the way

>>16819401
freight trains probably, would allow a direct rail link to Chyna and free up a LOT of port space

>>16819481
This is out of date btw. SpaceX flies more mass to space in 9 months than the shittle did over 30 years
https://brycetech.com/reports/report-documents/bryce-briefing-2025-Q2/

>>16820218
We did end up getting the perfect V2 flights that they were looking for, after a fashion.

>>16820198
>Nov 30
I'm all in

>>16820272
Give us the fucking Ioli cats

>>16820502
Go back to /g/ faggot

https://x.com/raz_liu/status/1979762066191011999
>Mission successful of LJ-1 Y8.

https://x.com/Cosmic_Penguin/status/1979743120456822937
>Next Chinese launch to orbit is coming again in just about half an hour. I am still not sure about the rocket, nor perhaps most of the passengers, but China’s close ally Pakistan government’s SUPARCO reports they have a hyperspectral EO satellite on board:
https://www.brecorder.com/news/40387540/pakistan-to-launch-first-hyperspectral-satellite-from-china-on-oct-19

>>16820509
>Next Chinese launch to orbit is coming again in just about half an hour. I am still not sure about the rocket, nor perhaps most of the passengers, but China’s close ally Pakistan government’s SUPARCO reports they have a hyperspectral EO satellite on board:
jeetchuds, your response?

>>16820510
https://x.com/r_isro/status/1979646883753787481
>Regional media report suggests BlueBird Block-2 FM1 satellite by AST Space Mobile has arrived at SDSC-SHAR on 17 October. Launch expected in late November.

https://www.andhrajyothy.com/2025/national/bluebird-experiment-to-launch-in-november-american-satellite-reaches-shar-1457604.html
>Sullurpeta, October 17 (Andhra Jyoti): The Indian Space Research Organisation (ISRO) is gearing up for another commercial launch. It is getting ready to send the American Bluebird Block-2 communication satellite into space by the end of November from Sriharikota using an LVM3-M6 rocket. The 6,500 kg satellite, which will be launched from the Satish Dhawan Space Centre, Shar, first reached Chennai from the US. It was transported to Shar in a special vehicle by road under CISF security in the early hours of Friday. Along with this satellite, 8 American scientists also reached Shar. All of them will remain here until the launch is completed.

>>16819499
this is some of the most advanced cope I've ever seen

>>16820374
>I don't understand it so it must be wrong
90% of conspiracy theories

>>16820363
Why don't people shoot down airplanes?

>>16820502
>troon colour patches
And those faggots were gaslighting me on the Discord for saying I don't want furshit because it's a gateway to other kinds of degeneracy. Seriously, the best thing about KSP was that there was no agenda in it whatsoever, nothing for either side to get mad about. And yet here they are, already wanting to force their shit into KSA.

>>16820198
Based and using my last satoshis pilled

>>16820568
Ah yes, my favorite trans pride flag colors: Turquoise and salmon.

>>16820570
>the Australian Space Agency
Lel, all 1 part time workers

>>16820570
The only thing Australia seems to come up in the news space related is pieces of space junk landing on them lol

>>16820572
Don't act like it isn't intentional, disingenuous cunt. I've seen you faggots do this hundreds of times thinking you're clever.

>>16820579
>don't act like it isn't intentional
These colors are literally so far removed from the actual colors of the trans flag(AND it's missing anything that resembles white and pink!) that it's bordering on complaining that the flag of FUCKING HAITI was a secret trans flag.
Salmon isn't a pink by the ways, it's a washed out orange.

Unbelievable. Of all the things to take problem with, you picked the only thing that anyone with good eyesight and a decently high contrasting monitor can immediately object to.

>Australian Space Agency

"Hails of derisive laughter."

>>16820585
Total troon death

>>16820590
Don't get me wrong, I agree. I'm also just worried you're wasting your energy here. No point in tiring yourself out and leaving yourself unable to deal with the ACTUAL troonshit.

>>16820171
YES

>>16820183
chess is a battle, go is a war

>>16820183
I used to play chess during PE in winter since it was too cold to exercise outside. I know a guy who really likes and plays it for fun over video games, but I can't comprehend that. It's just not fun to me. Even when bored with nothing to do, I'd rather be doing crosswords or sudoku than play chess.

>>16820568
I just think that chibishit (in general, as well) is objectively ugly, and would rather something that's better proportioned

>>16820606
I would rather you furfags and troons stop shitting everything good up

>>16820585
Get fucked YWNBAW

>>16820363
No more than a plane.
Terrorism would be relly be an issue on Mars, a single starship intentionally crashing on a big colony would be fatal.
One of the reasons why I think settlements should be many smaller ones instead of a big single one.

>>16820587
It's kinda sad that this kindergarden-drawing shit is the absolute pinacle of Australian space exploration. I am ENDLESSLY SEETHING that New Zealand is mogging us.
>muh Gilmour
Fucking Astra is lightyears ahead of them

Between this and their Lunar "Roo-ver", it just seems like an odd take. Making a Dad Joke about yourself.

>>16820623
Australia is full of this cultural cringe stuff, feeling the need to deprecate themselves. They're an odd, neurotic people, lacking in pride.

https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1979746018498654274

lots of starship related posts from musk

>>16820626
Yeah this is cool and all when's flight 12?

>>16820626
For a crew of two
For one week

Kinda overkill.

>>16820638
Orion is undersized

>>16820638
It's almost too big. Might get kinda spooky. Eternal low sunlight outside, strange creaks from elsewhere in the ship

>>16820633
SpaceX is going to crash and burn isn't it?

>>16819379
Status on their automated tile gizmo 3000? We still using mexicans for 2 more weeks?

>>16820582
That's funny. People here seethe about this kind of JPL artisinal work, but it's nice and shows that they understand the gravitas of going to a new world. Reminder that it's not JPL's fault that launch has been so expensive. With the cards they were dealt theyve made amazing vehicles second to none.

>>16820612
At least you have a rocket and a functional launch pad. How do you think us bongs feel? We went from ruling the waves to being the butt of the entire world. Fucking India which we conquered and dominated has a more successful space program than we ever had.

>>16820638
Blame Shartemis not Starship

>>16820644
you have no ambition

>>16820651
its not launch that makes JPL shit expensive
they could make 10 missions with the same cash instead of 10 mission every ten years
and maybe you are unaware or forgot that JPL has been aggressively defending its "turf" by basically cockblocking anything that tries to do what they do, such as red dragon from SpaceX

they are to blame as much as any ossified bureucracy can be

>>16820661
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26270977

tl:dr from grok
>Ex-NASA insider: SpaceX's Red Dragon (cheap Mars lander/sample return) got killed in three separate concept studies by NASA politics—JPL turf war to protect their bloated jobs program, humiliation for Lockheed's Orion capsule, and lobbyist senators threatening to gut SpaceX's NASA contracts. Elon ditched it for Starship.

>>16820339
He's basically a blank slate that resets between every episode, and asks dumb questions to make the guest feel smart and keep them talking for three hours

> Enter SpaceX and the 2014 Red Dragon proposal, which was an all-in-one Mars sample return mission that launched on a single Falcon Heavy and landed a rocket inside of the dragon capsule that was powerful enough to send the collected sample directly back to Earth. Do it all in one mission, and at 10x - 100x reduction in cost. So cheap it didn't even need to be a flagship mission and could be outsourced to industry and academia (like New Horizons was).
>JPL was not impressed. Play with your little toy satellites all you want, but don't fuck around with the golden goose. 2014 Red Dragon sample return proposal was a direct threat to the entire Mars planetary exploration program and semi-autonomous JPL's bottom line. They hit back hard trying to discredit the proposal with a bunch of underhanded arguments and agency politics. That's about the time I left NASA so I didn't get to see it fully play out, but apparently JPL won out because in the end the sample-return version of Red Dragon was deselected from funding.

>>16820661
Same for SLS. Anyone with a brain will tell you the delta-v you get with SLS can easily be replicated with a couple of kick stages in orbit and it will do us a lot of good to develop those technologies (zero boil off) for the future but Congress et al keeps cockblocking these projects.

>>16820669
all of NASA and its contractors were jobs programmes for decades, and most of it still is

>>16820669
Today I will remind them

>>16820672
@grok disable rocket equation.

>>16820688
>Booster turned out to be the easy part

That was a surprise.

>>16820689
That's a really good outcome

>>16820213
Aristotle and later Thomas Aquinas both attribute it to the existence of a soul

>>16820628
>2 crewed
by what? a robot and a dog? you can say people you know. this dei shit is cringe.

>>16820633
>elon wants to build a dyson sphere
oh boy

Ok, maybe the Universe is expanding to the left and the right but what is at the bottom and the top of the universe?

>>16820704
Most dark matter has fallen to the bottom of the universe due to gravity, you have to look down there to find that stuff.

>>16820688
SN5 was fun to watch. So was SN8.

>>16820704
a 3d universe like ours bounded by a 4 dimensional region would look like an infinitely large area to those on the inside. alternatively space is infinite in size and the universe expands into it.

>>16820698
he has been talking about it for a while

Was Falcon XX supposed to use a bunch of clustered Merlins? Or just 9 new very-scaled-up merlins like some sort of modern F-1

>>16820715
Woah it used merlin 2

https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1979865110324900275/
>Starship Fuel Depot launch.

https://x.com/Truthful_ast/status/1979747350865457652
>Undocking from a fuel depot.

>>16820726
>>16820727
official renders?

>>16820728
ksp

>>16820726
>Starship Fuel Depot launch.
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>Truthful
[math]\unicode{x1F611}[/math][math]\unicode{x1F611}[/math]

>>16820488
extremely retarded
you'd have to build thousands of miles of rail and the freeze and thaw cycles would absolutely fucking wreck them, so a considerable fraction would need to be repaired every year
and it would still be significantly more expensive than shipping

>>16820688
where's MK3/SN1?And MK4 (built in Cocoa Beach), and SN7.2... man, I still remember that one being tested while watching it live on the LabPadre stream... those were the times.

>>16820587
Fuck the wifi tax and fuck australia
I'd beg God to curse australia and turn it into a blasted desert filled with subhuman orcs and venomous creatures of all kinds, but He is way ahead of me

>>16820738
missing I guess, its also missing a bunch of unlaunched boosters I think

>>16820656
you forgot the part about never being slaves, kek

>>16820695
actually some of the crew will be blacks

>>16820628
>1000m^3
wow, a cubic kilometer?

>>16820688
>SN42 and SN69 will debut soon
i wonder what surprises elon has for us

>>16820727
>fuel depot has the male side of the docking mount points
chat, how do we feel about this

>>16820667
yeah, the hackernews-red-dragon copypasta is common knowledge here.

>>16820753
saves mass for the vehicle that has to do repeated flights, the depot is going nowhere

>>16820664
>JPL gets reduced by 550 jobs
who's laughing now?

>>16820758
they should make a movie out of this

>>16820764
after the first starship mars landing

>>16820667
>>16820758
I still wonder from time to time how things would've turned out had SpaceX gotten away with their Red Dragons. I mean, they would've gained a lot of experience and real data in terms of interplanetary reentry, and ECLSS for extended periods of time, though it might've still slowed things down in the long term for Starship (?), as they would've spent lots of resources and time on these missions.

>>16820775
>starshield is owned by spacex
stopped reading right there

>>16820751
SN69 will be the first orbital refueling attempt.

>>16820775
The military doesn't give a fuck about the ITU oh my goooood

>>16820779
Hot.

reminder you dont hate journalists enough

>>16820768
it would have not slowed down starship. different teams. all it would have done is speed starship development and also give morale to elon stans.

>>16820790
people can change teams

>>16820795
your dad can change sexual orientation.

https://x.com/CNSAWatcher/status/1979849575927324684
>Long March 5 Y9 rocket successfully transported. The rocket features advanced cryogenic liquid fuel technology. Rocket stands at 63.2 meters tall with impressive specifications.

>>16820804
thanks, chinkposter

>>16820798
I find this argument unconvincing

14 min to record breaking f9 launch

spacex breaks a new record with every launch

>>16820857
Which record?

I still remember when the 3rd flight of a booster was such a big deal, time flies.

Rat spotted.

how do they do it

Another one

Only 3 more launches from this booster to surpass Atlantis (33). After that, 6 more launches and it'll have surpassed Discovery (39) as well, finally beating the entire Space Shuttle fleet.

>>16820866
Is this a space station orbiting Europa?

when is next flight

ahem
>SpaceX: 523
>Rest of the world combined: 0

>>16820893
like an hour and 15 minutes from now, from Vandenberg

>>16820284
>Luke Leisher screenshotted this and posted in on "Spitter"
cringeee. i would consider killing myself in this situation

>>16820866
gouged out the plug welds
welds are stronger than the base material bros i don't feel so good

>>16820907
ELMO is finished. Clown show over guys.

OH NO NO HORIZONTAL STARSHIP BROS??? WHAT ABOUT OUR RETARDED STARSHIP HABITAT IDEA??????

>>16820911
its over

>>16820911
Why would you lay it down? The living volume is the same in either direction.
Also Starship is a rocket not a habitat. You'd rather cut it up and reuse the steel than shoehorn it.
But it can be laid down given a cradle and breakover mechanism and sufficient internal pressure as that's how they're gonna be transported to Florida.

>>16820911
Yeah, Musk is not a reliable source, so this doesn't mean anything. Sorry not sorry.

>>16820914
>((NARRATED))

>>16820919
cope lmao. this is his opinion so he's gonna shut down anyone at spacex who wants to do it

>>16820920
Tankwatching ASMR

>>16820479
>remember the time EDA gave elon the idea that doomed several flights. I member
No. The ullage gas is still being for RCS on ship V3 and all of the successful V2 ships.
Therefore you are misrepresenting the root cause of the failures.

>>16820911
Our dome town design was informed by data, and since the beginning we have pushed to bury the Starships vertically. We are committed to delivering you an innovative, scalable living solution

>>16820911
>Aug 25, 2020
don't worry bros, he might have changed his mind