>>149905094
>Imagine the calf gains
it will be in negative, not even zero :D

gastrocnemius BENDS THE KNEE it doesn't extend it like in calf raises or walking/running uphill
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
this grows calves, it's heel-hook and it's climbing movement

>>76408228
>Quads have to be muscular but slim for pants to fit right. You don't want to end up a cartoon of a person.
depends which cartoon bot
this batman from my post for example:
>>76408204
this looks good

it's developed gastrocnemius, like mitboe right beside batman has, he's a cloomber and he does lotta heel-hooks while he climbs, that's how he got his calves

>i ain't gonna fucking cloomb i am not dirty hippy
neither will I, but heel-hook i do:
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/NfwtDIscQm8
and gastrocnemius responded beautifully

old thread:
>>76378752

>>76405758
>>76379936
see this picture bot? see how gastroc wraps around knee bones? muscle can't get proper contraction when it's poked by bones like that, that is exactly what happens with regular calf raises (yes that pain in the back of the knee when maxing out standing calf raises - precisely what i'm talking about), that is exactly what happens when u straighten knee and point toes walking uphill

it will not only prevent gastrocnemius contracting freely it will also sabotage soleus cause it's cojoined in ahilles tendon with compromised in this position gastocnemius
walking uphill, like squats will produce chicken legs - no calves but huge overgrown vastus lateralis and adductors