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>Also where did this "the japanese have discussions about dub vs sub koth" rumor come from?
It's probably just misinformation that Western anime fans latched onto because they've heard it so many times. Kinda like how Cowboy Bebop was supposedly a "failure" in Japan when it was the complete opposite. Or Anno "leaving" Kare Kano when he never did.

The Godfather and Raging Bull. Literally the two most boring movies I've ever watched.