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7/15/2025, 9:17:26 AM
7/6/2025, 2:38:39 AM
>>17817772
>Actually it is very free as a function of being more free than every other lifeform and the rest of creation
How are we more free? Humans make more abstractions because we're smarter, and make them in the first place because evolutionarily they're beneficial. But creating weird abstractions and stories around our choices doesn't make them anymore free than any other animal's. At the most base level, it's still just cause and effect, but because these causal events in certain regions of space are filtered through human brains, it gives rise to the idea that there is a self making them in this space
>It's logically consistent to say that humans have free will
Maybe if you contort the definition of free will, but by it's most commonly agreed definition, no
>>17817810
>There is no "human" only a stream of matter hallucinating itself
Yes
>except that we hallucinate it (which also justifies a belief in free will)
No?
>>17817823
>>17817830
Let's hear what anon believes then :)
>Actually it is very free as a function of being more free than every other lifeform and the rest of creation
How are we more free? Humans make more abstractions because we're smarter, and make them in the first place because evolutionarily they're beneficial. But creating weird abstractions and stories around our choices doesn't make them anymore free than any other animal's. At the most base level, it's still just cause and effect, but because these causal events in certain regions of space are filtered through human brains, it gives rise to the idea that there is a self making them in this space
>It's logically consistent to say that humans have free will
Maybe if you contort the definition of free will, but by it's most commonly agreed definition, no
>>17817810
>There is no "human" only a stream of matter hallucinating itself
Yes
>except that we hallucinate it (which also justifies a belief in free will)
No?
>>17817823
>>17817830
Let's hear what anon believes then :)
6/23/2025, 1:04:30 AM
6/17/2025, 6:33:23 PM
>>105620696
It's not my fault
It's not my fault
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