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Good posts and my observations match yours, however this part I don't agree with:

>or you know clench your pelvic muscles and don't let the pre seminal fluid come out which when i started doing all this years ago i thought i was actually doing something but after careful examination afterwards i realize by peeing in a glass right after having a wet dream that it goes into your urethra and then it leaves your body thru your pee so anyways so it is very clear it's useless to clench your muscles and risking yourself to hurt something in your dick or whatever down there if you are already pass the point of no return and the cooming is inevitable.

I don't think clenching the pelvic floor muscles at orgasm causes retrograde ejaculation (emission going to bladder). I think clenching overrides the muscle spasms which cause it to shoot out, and so it just stays where it is. On the other hand the method of pressing on the perinuem does cause retrograde ejaculation since the spasms still happen but emission is redirected to bladder. Checking urine after a clenched orgasm it looks clear for me.

Anybody had success with non-ejaculatory orgasms?