No links edition.

>>40664696 (OP)
I have been a longtime addict to PMO. I have been so for more than 25 years. This week I have been retaining for some days. It has not been that hard. On the same note I am very stressed because of external reasons non related to SR (girl leaving, lost my job and house). So SR might help to regain control of my life, Thanks guys,

>>40664720
The first week is free.

1 year retaining as of July 1st AMA

>>40664729
What possitive changes have you seen on your daily life. In my case on streaks some stuff starts to happen like synchronicities and people giving me stuff but what about you?

Did it again award. I've tried many times but I fall for it again. Sometimes it's because I'm lethargic and bored etc.
I'm pretty sure it's because of excessive cooming that I've aged like 10+ years in the past 4 years.
I'm only 25. It's never been so over.
I don't think I can get the youthful look back.
I deeply regret this and now I'm bitter as fuck.

>>40664736
My intuition is much stronger and more accurate. People don’t give me things but I do feel protected, and slightly luckier than the average person. I’m much calmer and less fidgety than everyone around me.

I think the biggest change is mental. Being able to let difficult situations and people just flow out of my life without getting caught up in emotions or drama. It’s also just not healthy to masturbate and the idea of losing a precious bodily fluid for a brief period of pleasure is now an alien concept to me.

>>40664736
Same. People just start giving me things in really weird ways. Like go to restaurant... Oops our credit system is down guess you ate for free. Oops gave you an extra Taco at Taco Bell.

Also I just have plain more time to do things.

>>40664746
Not enough microplastics and cornsyrup.

>>40664764
That's where I want to be. For me it's a pressure release that I have abused for decades. At some points I think that I have really hindered my life with inaction by using it too much as a crutch. Emotional crutch not to follow up the things I need to be happy (work, family, partners).

>>40664766
In one streak a chick I knew gave me art supplies that I needed and told me "she had been thinking about me for a while". Before giving me the stuff. It was amazing. It made me a true believer.

>>40664772
Microplastics are in everything. I can't escape. Alomg with the air. It's killing me faster than I can ever imagine.
If it wasn't already clear I live in turd land.

>orgasms let out the lovely magical feeling you have built up during intercourse. Plus they are such an addictive thing; the next day annoying feelings of being in the mood for more kept interrupting my thoughts. Sex without orgasm leaves such a long-lasting satisfaction as compared to sex with orgasm that it is almost ironic.

Masturbation is a ritualistic form of consent to the loosh harvesting matrix system. You’re literally saying “oh that’s so amazing to behold that it’s worth dying a little over, here have my life essence.”

But we all know deep down that women aren’t worth it. They are just an illusion and live by deception. They have to shave themselves, wear fake hair and layers of makeup all in order to attract us like moths to a flame. Women never lead to anything good.

>>40664839
I read on one of these generals that an anon that masturbated on mushrooms felt that a powerful energy was leaving his body when he came. And that it was then when he realized what he was losing. For me I always feel miserable when I do it. It's just like drugs.

Bros...do you notice that when you do SR that certain women get outright hostile to you? Yeah the SR attraction thing is legitimate but I also noticed enough women suddenly became more rude towards me overnight (the more liberal, boss-babe feminist nazi kind).

t. work in an office

>>40664889
Yeah some guys will try to push you too, In social environments. Sometimes you can talk your way outta things easier.

>>40664736
>In my case on streaks some stuff starts to happen like synchronicities and people giving me stuff but what about you?

The LOA people refuse to accept this but I am able to manifest like crazy on no fap, even a minor streak.

>>40664897
yeah me too. LOA dudes are too stubborn and should not be heard. They are too culty. SR is just logical. You don't need to believe in it for it to happen.

>>40664746
>I'm only 25.
>only
nigga you're a fucking grandpa it's so fucking over

>>40664720
>girl leaving
>lost my job and house
Goddamn, went through the same in the winter. Wasn't in the mood either. Good luck. Things will get better if you focus on making them better.

>>40664905
Fuck off. 25 is young you bitch.

>>40664839
>Women never lead to anything good

Now this is obviously not true and is demoralization propaganda. SR is important and I've been practicing for almost a decade.

I think it's important to visualize the self who doesn't rely on PMO and what that means. Having a gf didn't stop me, having busywork didn't stop me. Reevaluate what the more ideal you who doesn't have to rely on it and work from there.

>>40664932
Yeah the girl leaving was entirely my fault and other stuff is external but I'm back home reinventing myself. I have been feeling really down but I need to get back to it.

>>40664839
>>40664839
>>40664839
>>40664839

>>40664940
>demoralization propaganda
Women are actually demoralizing to men. Never happy. Always wanting more. Always leading men away from inner peace. Satan worked through Eve. Adam didn’t fall by his own lack of self control.

I did some stuff with Jesus and had my dantien fixed. Turns out I overused it and a negative kara started pouring in along with it being damaged. Dosn't hurt anymore but libido somewhat milder.

Don't goon all the way up more than twice.

>>40664938
i wish it was, too. sadly this is reality. at 20 you're already starting to age, at ~22.5 you're already old, at 25 it's fucking over. beyond that you might as well kill yourself.

>>40664854
>It's just like drugs.
Exactly. It's lighting up the brain's reward/dopamine pathways which is what drugs do.

>>40664696 (OP)
day 4

no porn
no masturbation
it only takes 2 weeks
yall got this

>>40664729
>before your current one year streak did you have previous streaks that were of similar length or longer?
>do the cravings become less intense after a certain number of months?

>>40665177
It only takes two weeks for what?

>>40664839
If your mom never seduced your dad you wouldn’t exist anon

>>40665218
To break and form a habit.
You can break a habit and still suffer withdrawals on the other hand can last months.

Did a test run. It's fine I'm okay again. Switched from chi cool balls to parna warm dick. Makena regular circut again. Doing yoga instead of taichi. And just recouping.

>>40665156
lol

>>40665213
Yes, I’ve reached a year before but then I blew my load with an escort. It wasn’t worth it. Weak orgasm. I tried telling myself that I just needed the release at the time but it was cope.

Cravings become easier to deal with and the idea of watching porn becomes more foreign and grotesque. I think there are many factors involved though like testosterone levels. My T is slightly below average for my age so I’m guessing that makes it easier for me to retain.

>>40665235
This body and I are not one being. My parents formed a body. They did not form my awareness.

>>40665077
>Women are actually demoralizing to men. Never happy. Always wanting more. Always leading men away from inner peace.

These are absolutes that you know simply aren't true. Women often tend to reflect the inner emotional state of the man they are with or around. If this is your experience with women on a routine basis it tells a lot about you as well and something perhaps you can work on.

>>40665077
>Adam didn’t fall by his own lack of self control.

He did though. He was told to not eat the fruit and still disobeyed God.

>>40664696 (OP)
Does the Semen Retention OP even exist anymore? Please tell me somebody has it saved in a text file?

>>40665381
It was literally in the last thread but because no one baked I punished the whole thread with no links.

Besides the spiritual and biochemical benefits, it's also is a teacher of discipline. Telling yourself No to something you feel a lot of compelling energy torwards is like doing pull ups for mental strength. Now you're strong at self control in this area of your life, apply this to other areas and you'll see results.

>>40665336
>”it’s just a you problem to work on”
This is a typical archon/demonic guilt-tripping attempt. Weak too. Recognizing this nature in women didn’t originate here with me.

Adam was told not to eat the fruit but then the serpent tricked him into disobeying through Eve. There’s nothing really to discuss here you’re just leaving out the next part of the story.

>>40664729
What physical changes have you noticed in yourself? Face, Hair, Muscles etc

>>40665459
>>”it’s just a you problem to work on”

Most things in life in fact are exactly that. You can never control how other people act, think, or feel ultimately. You do however have certain control over those things for one person and that is yourself.

>>40665459
>There’s nothing really to discuss here you’re just leaving out the next part of the story.

satan is trying to deceive all of us constantly. It is our duty to trust, believe, and have faith in God. I'm not leaving anything out. Adam & Eve failed to trust and obey God. That is exactly what happened.

>>40664839
Fuck off incel

>>40665496
Nothing I do makes women choose to shave their bodies, wear fake hair and eyelashes, makeup, always want more etc. You’re just grasping for a way to guilt-trip and it’s obvious.

Now you’re summarizing the story of Eden inaccurately in order to redirect attention away from the relationship between Eve and Satan.

>>40665459
You're mentally ill, go share your thoughts with your mother you disgusting cuck

>>40665517

No one is trying to guilt trip you. You are clearly already demoralized beyond all belief. I'm in fact doing the opposite trying to explain to you that over generalization of a group of people is inaccurate which is a good thing.

Of course you are using a name so its already hard to trust you are here in good faith.

My generalization of women is much more accurate. In the short term they will often reflect the emotional state of others around them.

Plus you mentioned in a previous post you paid an escort. Its no wonder you are so jaded about the topic. Its clearly affecting your opinion if these are experiences you have with women.

No more (you)s for you. The thread is about SR anyway.

Seek help and pray to Christ. I'll do the same for you.

>>40665481
Clearer skin, bright eyes that never look bloodshot, facial hair grows fast and full

It's summer. Girls in thong bikinis at the beach, girls walking around in short shorts with their ass hanging out. Delicious midriffs everywhere. How do you deal with these triggers other than locking yourself inside?

>>40665569
what about hair (top of your head), not talking about growth but how healthy it is

>>40665642
Well I don’t have a bald spot and I’m nearly 40 so that might be a bonus. I’m betting that’s based more on genetics though.

>>40664696 (OP)
did nofap for 2 weeks, constantly felt like shit, couldnt think of anything but sex

finally fapped to some scenario I made up (not like literally braindead normal porn), felt amazing, it has been two days and I feel much more relaxed and clear minded.

I think this whole thing is for literal porn addicts unable of sexual creativity

>>40665620
Don’t live in fear. Don’t deny your instincts. Just brush it aside and keep moving. Know what you want and don’t play games with yourself. Don’t let it possess you and eventually, it will lose power over you.

>>40665670
fuck off shill

>>40665620
Go and try and chat them up?
I break my streaks by busting in women, i feel bad for 2 or 3 days after but after that I feel normal like I was still on a 100+ day streak

>>40665677
t. rotted porn brain

>>40664696 (OP)
>bread baker leaving important info out of the OP gee I wonder why

>>40620839 (Cross-thread)

>>40620844 (Cross-thread)

>>40620852 (Cross-thread)

>>40620858 (Cross-thread)

>>40620863 (Cross-thread)

>>40665857
Retain your (You)s, do not let the shills milk you of your (You)s

What to do to replace release? I try to work out but it makes me hornier.

>>40665670
kill yourself as soon as possible

>>40665681
What if we’re supposed to be building up our energy for a final test in the afterlife?

>>40665770
Here >>40665406
>>40665406
>>40665406

I did it on purpose because Bakers were lazy and so was I.

>>40665459
The fall didn't happen until Adam ate the apple not Eve.
The lesson was Adam should have listened to God not a woman but also that Adam did a poor job protecting the Garden as Adam had the full authority to cast Demons out of the Garden.

It was a big ol mess and God was face palming the whole time watching it happen because although he knew it was going to happen he still gave Adam a chance to not let it happen by giving him Free Will.

>>40666180
That doesn’t make any sense.

>>40665936
> to do to replace release?

Sex increases prolacin which blocks dopamine and testosterone. You can get the same effect with alcohol or antidepressants... if you want to get prolacin without sex technically you can play with your breasts because prolacin is also stimulated to create milk.

> to work out but it makes me hornier.


Me too. Especially cardio...
but it promotes neuroplasticity and, through an epigenetic process, the creation of new neurons, which is important for creating new habits.


Exercise also boosts testosterone, which boosts libido.

You just need to redirect that energy into something like meditation or shadow work.

>>40664696 (OP)
i fucking love prolactin so much bros

struggling right now. how do i get motivation to endure this?

>>40665670
>did nofap for 2 weeks
>didn't even make it out of the prolactin haze

>>40666163
Shrug, I'll probably still have more than most people so idc

>>40666370
>prolactin haze
Since when was this a thing...

>>40666327
You have to find that on your own anon

>>40666327
well why did you decide to try SR?

>>40666756
because i want to quit my porn addiction, i'm lonely as fuck and want to find a wife and i'm tired of being a bitch
>inb4 NOOO YOU SHOULDNT DO SR TO GET WOMEN!!
please stfu

>>40666774
well then there's your motivation

In addition to Eve being the reason behind Adam’s failure, we also have the story of Samson and Delilah. She “cut off his hair” in the middle of the night and he lost his superhuman strength. I don’t believe they were actually talking about hair cutting and it’s more reasonable to believe she stole his seminal essence.

>>40666784
that motivation fluctuates constantly and has me questioning whether it's even worth it or not, i'm more looking for instantaneous motivation for when i'm horny

>>40666790
Bro nobody cares about your skitzo delusions

>>40666804
It's called self control, be aware and mindful of yourself and your inner self.

I've never had a problem with any addiction, I quit smoking, I quit drinking, I quit weed, I quit gooning. Just be aware of your own actions and you can easily stop them, maybe you're not as self aware as I am or maybe you're in some sort of denial or repression I don't know and I don't really care. You need to figure this stuff out for yourself, not everything can be handed to you on a silver platter otherwise everyone would be rich.

Stop trying to out source your thinking to other people and think for yourself, really think, not this surface level bullshit you call thinking, sit in a quiet room with nothing but yourself, close your eyes and fucking think.

>>40666774
SR is a journey, a relapse isn’t the be-all-end-all. Rome wasn’t built in a day. Also to do SR in the effort to attract a woman, a high quality woman, a wife, its not a bad reason. There’s no wrong reason to do SR. Don’t listen to people who say otherwise.

Be wary of those who are angry, and those who treat retention like a fad diet or workout program. Its roots are ancient and the effects more subtle than what’s apparent to most of us. Look into Brahmacharya.

>>40664696 (OP)
Add the links or don't bake it nigger

>>40666833
Yes I am trying to control myself.. What the fuck are you even on about? All I did is ask how I can get motivated during tough times when my urges make me stop caring about my actual goals with this.
>I've never had a problem with any addiction
well I do.

>>40666864
>Rome wasn’t built in a day
They still used their time wisely and actually built it though, this is more like demolishing your build and completely starting over again with each relapse. I have already wasted the majority of my life and every time I do it it feels like I'm starting at 0 again.

>>40666957
>What the fuck are you even on about?
What I'm on about is in every thread there is a retard like you that always asks some shit like "I'm looking for instantaneous motivation" but you never ask yourself, you look for help from others without realising that you can just ask yourself. Room temperature IQ human.

>>40667001
>Room temperature IQ human.
my IQ is in the high 70s/low 80s so fuck you.

>>40666957
>this is more like demolishing your build and completely starting over again with each relapse.
awful take lmao
>I have already wasted the majority of my life and every time I do it it feels like I'm starting at 0 again.
no wonder you're struggling you hate yourself

>>40666215
What didn't make sense?

>God Created Adam
>God Gave Adam authority over the Garden and All animals
>Demons could only enter the Garden in the first place if Adam wasn't doing a good job
>God made Eve from the bone of Adam and put Eve under Adam's supervision, instruction and care
>Eve gets tempted by the Serpent and Eats the Apple nothing happens
>Eve gives the Apple to Adam whom God directly instructed not to eat the apple
>As soon as Adam bites the Apple nature and the material world is thrown into disorder, Adam and Eve become aware of their nakedness, make clothes and then hide from God
>when God asks what happened Adam immediately blames Eve instead of accepting responsibility showing how quickly the Sin corrupted him
>God goes I'm mad but I knew this would happen, I still love you, here is the plan, don't worry you will be redeemed

Adam and Eve are in Heaven. Their Feast Day is Christmas Eve. They're not suffering in Hell or something.

When Jesus died on the Cross his Soul descended into Hell and liberated Adam, Abraham, Isaac, Moses, Noah, Daniel and some traditions say that Socrates and other Pagans were also in the Bossom of Abraham.

>>40666957
> They still used their time wisely and actually built it though, this is more like demolishing your build and completely starting over again with each relapse. I have already wasted the majority of my life and every time I do it it feels like I'm starting at 0 again.
Yeah I understand but try to not be so hard on yourself because it’s going to be of no use for your SR, and you can fall into the trap of thinking “well whats the point”

>>40667034
>What didn't make sense?
Because nobody else is severely mentally ill

>body uses energy to create copies of your dna in semen
>spilling it on anything other than woman'a vagina is not the intended use of the body=not meating the goal of giving the dna to form offspring=wasted energy
inb4
>but anon I'll cum while asleep anyway
you can stop nocturnal emissions completely by not watching porn, erotica, any lust inducing content. Even if you didn't stop it, spilling it once every 6 months is completely different than jacking off every other day.
you can calculate and compare volume x ml versus xtimes number of fapp sessions(60-100 maybe more) ml than single nocturnal emission.
another thing - urges
>I feel horny
go lift weights, chop wood, ride a bike
>I feel like penis is not working anymore
not true, temporary hormones imbalance due to not bombing brain with dopamine and dozens of new women like you were a sultan with a harem everyday.
>am i impotent?
no
if you are hungry, you eat, no food/choice not to eat=you fast
if you are thirsty, you drink, nothing to drink? you don't drink
you feel horny? you find a woman attract her and then have sex. No (proper) women around/choice to be celibate =you don't fuck. NOT PULLING YOUR PENIS.
if you are thirsty you don't lick your skin for any water
if you are hungry you don't eat your own limbs
so don't "pleasure" yourselves by your own. Find a woman. Real 3d woman outside and try things with her. Otherwise ignore women. Don't watch women online, don't buy dirty magazines, don't talk to random women. You don't want to fuck? Ignore women. Don't be a wanker.

>>40664736
Nothing, lol

>>40667114
Anon you are in a thread of chronic masturbators.

>>40667034
>>40666180

>God goes I'm mad but I knew this would happen
>It was a big ol mess and God was face palming the whole time watching it happen because although he knew it was going to happen he still gave Adam a chance to not let it happen by giving him Free Will.

What kind of retarded fucking God is this? Pic related deals with that mental gymnastics.

>when God asks what happened Adam immediately blames Eve instead of accepting responsibility showing how quickly the Sin corrupted him

This is the biggest problem with SIMPs and redpillers, you refuse to acknowledge that women have their own free will and their own initiative. I swear to God, you people are biggest morons in the world that give a blind eye to the actions of women and just blame men for all of the problems in the world. Have you ever interacted with a woman? They are 100% aware of what they are doing when it comes to fucking over the men in their lives and society as a whole.

The real moral of the Adam and Eve story is that Adam got fucked over by his wife by being dutiful husband and women are a burden on a man's life even if he lives in paradise because at any moment she will ruin it for both of them because she is a woman.

>>40667127
This is a SR thread, nobody should be actively masturbating unless they are not serious, it's quite literality as simple as not doing it, if you can't control that simple action what hope do you have of controlling anything else in your own life.

>>40667136
Did Epicurus Order the Universe? Did Epicurus hang the planets in the heavens and cause stars to be born and die? Did Epicurus sail across time and space?

I don't care what Epicurus has to say I'm just telling you what Jewish and Christian Tradition says on the matter. I didn't ask if you liked it.

>>40665670
This, SR isn't real. Only thing thats real is pornography, which is proven to be damaging to the brain. All the "negatives" retooners associate with cooming is actually caused by porn. So when people come here and rave about le "benefits" they have from SR, it's actually from cutting down on porn consumption. When will you fucking retards listen to me? When? I fucking beg you.

>>40666518
The mainstream calls it "post-nut clarity" which is as usual a lie.
It's the very opposite of clarity.
You just took a hit of nature's crack and you will be riding the waves of mostly depressant neurochemical spurts for another 2 or even 3 weeks, IF you can resist taking another hit in that time which those spurts encourage.
Most men today have never experienced no-nut clarity and accept the fucked-up on prolactin state as normal - the condition of the world is a direct reflection of this "normalcy".

>>40667537
false.

>>40667537
>When will you fucking retards listen to me? When? I fucking beg you.

Probably never because you are 100% mistaken. Porn is obviously damaging but once you stop spilling the energy then you can circulate and store it in energy centers through the body via meditation and prayer.

Tons of benefit from strictly just SR but to go further one has to employ other practices.

>succubus won't let me get on a streak longer then 4-5 days
It seems that things haven't escalated...

five months in. very little magnetism, no gf, attracting women seems to be mostly being loud and i am still a wallflower

>>40667835
*have escalated

Please pray for me boys. Even just a little prayer from a stranger will help me conquer this demon.

>>40667863
I prayed for you anon

>>40667835
i am so repulsive to women i don't even have wet dreams.

Can someone explain "scientifically" and without wu how not masturbating is supposed to increase things like attraction and luck? I understand the logic behind the mental benefits by restricting excessive instant gratification and even the physical ones by not expelling nutrients from your body on a regular basis, but anything more than that and these anecdotal stories start to lose me. I personally have only gone 2 weeks maximum on SR and while I can attest that I did feel better, I didn't notice anything outside my own mental state changing in any noticeable way.

>>40667758
Fucking dumbass. Having sex REDUCES the effects of prolactin entirely. Believe it or not but the body actually KNOWS the difference between real sex and artificial sex (fapping). Just because you feel like shit after cooming doesn't mean everyone else does. Plenty of men out there living fulfilling lives while cooming excessively (picrel). Maybe instead of cooming to your hand for the 1000th time, try finding looking for a real woman like chad and cooming inside her like you're biologically wired to do.

>>40667785
Whole lotta mumbo jumbo there. Nothing real of substance. Nothing you can backup with data,science and graphs. Even if there are "benefits" to SR, they disappear when you watch porn. Why is that? Actually do this test yourself, watch porn everyday for a month while being on "semen retention" and tell me how you feel. Then take that, and try cooming everyday but practice nofap and noporn for a month. I'm doing the latter currently and I feel the exact same as I felt on "semen retention" leading me to believe 99% of the benefits come from simply cutting porn consumption.

>>40667758
I'm this >>40667973 anon. Forgot the picture (picrel).

>>40667962
>Can someone explain "scientifically" and without wu how not masturbating is supposed to increase things like attraction and luck?
yes. attraction first:
>decreased prolactin (sexual satiety hormone that plays role in testosterone production)
>increased sensitivity to dopamine which is associated with decreased social anxiety among many other things
>increased androgen receptor activity (testosterone literally has a bigger effect on you)
luck:
>harder to draw the direct SR -> luck connection because who even studies that?, but science has shown that people who expect luck tend to "find it," it's completely malleable
the legends are true anon

>>40667962
>I personally have only gone 2 weeks maximum on SR and while I can attest that I did feel better, I didn't notice anything outside my own mental state changing in any noticeable way.
it only takes "this clearly never would have happened without SR" miracle-like bit of attraction from women you've never experienced before to become a convert. had mine on a previous streak at like 30 days in

>don't jerk off for awhile
>hey, things are going alright
>jerk off one day
>tangible sensation of emptiness in my groin afterwards
>after brief satisfaction wears off, spend the entire rest of the day with this subtle sense of dread, almost like how you feel while smoking weed at a bad time, but without the high
>have unusually bad luck, things I don't want to happen seem to happen more frequently, and I feel like misfortune is right around the corner
>lasts for about 24 hours, or until you go to sleep and wake up again
energetic entities eat the life force from your semen, so when you masturbate they surround you like sharks in bloody water and coax you to masturbate so they can continue feeding. your life force is what gives you longevity, confidence, courage and allows you to manifest positive things for yourself.

>>40668033
the post nut "clarity" feels more like having a beautiful head of hair and shaving it off and going: 'what have i done? this is going to take so long to get back'

>>40667962
just try it for yourself anon. And with a skeptic mentallity. Like go into it thinking no supernatural events are going to happen.

>>40667973

Tons of occult and esoteric writings by hundreds of people for literally thousands of years independent of each other geographically speak on retaining your life force/sexual energy/prana. Then further physical exercises or processes, meditation & prayer, and life style changes to maximize the effects. Legitimate supernatural abilities physically, mentally, and spiritually.

Anecdotally I've experienced some of that as well

I mentioned some of it in an SR thread from a few days ago.

>>40598012

Science and spirituality of sorts have yet to integrate with each other in any meaningful way. People tend to believe one solely and not the other.

Science will never be able to fully explain the divine because God and His workings simply transcend human comprehension. That being said more can be known than we know now.

Pic rel

>>40664729
Nice high score, I've got 5 more months to reach 1 year SR.
Have you noticed changes in the way people treat and perceive you? (random dudes and women, family members, managers etc.)

failed on day 8. Its now out of my system hopefully. Restarting and now going to try and go for much longer. Knew I was slipping the day before. Should have just gone to the gym or something to beat the urges. Hopefully I have a better exit next time. I consider this a win if I can avoid multiple relapses over the next week.

anyone else ever get headaches when doing SR? I'm on roughly day 50 for the first time in 3 years and there's a dull pulsating pain in my brain, right above my left eye. I'd like to think this is my brain rewiring but I don't know what's going on. I'm not gonna give in ofc.. but wondering if its happened to anyone else

>>40665620
listen fag
from a man on a streak of 1500+ days
channel all of your energy to your forehead and imagine yourself headbutting them
like hitting them in the forehead with your forehead and knocking them the fuck out
yeah, that's what I thought, I can feel your balls growing from here

Day 50 ヾ(≧▽≦*)o

>>40665670
Its Christcucks trying something esoteric to stop men doing what is natural instead of telling us it's sinful they're say8ng it gives them special powers.
They're still INCEL Christcucks, but now they can frighten women in a while new way instead of just fucking them like a normal man.

Day 14
Vivid dreams that have sexual themes, last night it was world was getting nuked so I cuddled up with a friend I've known for a long time and kissed her. Also played twister with her and a couple other friends after suggesting we play twister on holiday at the end of the month. These dreams were sexual but at the same time not.
Funny that these dreams are starting around the 13-14 day mark as some people have said it would.

I've had urges to coom but it's easy enough to control myself.

>>40665177
>no porn
>literally posts porn

>>40667537

I'm starting to realize this has absolutely nothing to getting women. I've gotten women in all kinds of states in my life, its literally just a random dice roll.

The point of SR is to develop a leaderlike drive in incels, who are typically INTP and are the most positioned to lead the world intellectually, we just typically suffer from a large degree of escapism because we are so introverted. When you cut out the porn it makes us unstoppable

>>40664889
People unsure about themselves will feel uncomfortable around you. Your aura shows a mirror, and they see themselves and whatever, something bother them. This experience is not 100% always positive.

>>40665670
The first week attempting SR is harder than anything. My head hurt a lot because of the abstinence. I relapsed and tried it again, but this time for 14 days. Relapsed again. I'm on day 21, although no benefits being seeing because I'm living through the hardest time of my life right now.

>>40666327
>>40666774
>i'm lonely as fuck and want to find a wife and i'm tired of being a bitch
Socialize. You can find your 1% woman on SR.

>>40666790
There is a Mesopotamian myth that a guy used to be as one with the nature. He lost his link with the nature once he had a relationship with a woman.

>>40670105
I'm also going through a horrible time. I'm really counting on complete destruction of society and the INTP Chad's rising to lead the post apocalyptic generation, otherwise life really was gay and stupid

>>40669941
>who are typically INTP and are the most positioned to lead the world intellectually
Just give the world to autistic people. They work faster and get stuff done, can't lie, think logically and have a strong sense of justice.

>>40670123
i'm anti social and scared of women, i'm only on day 8 so i guess i have to wait a bit longer if this vanishing of anxiety on prolonged streaks is indeed real

I just peeked. Shouldn't have done that. Turning the internet off now. Pray for me boys

>>40667962
>Can someone explain "scientifically" and without wu
Everything outside your current knowledge base is not “wu”. We have invisible forces recognized by scientists such as dark energy and even electromagnetic fields that we can’t see. It’s not wu it’s just not part of your current understanding and thus it’s causing cognitive dissonance within you.

>>40668218
My life has become much better over the last year. I’ve moved closer to my family and quit my soul sucking office job. It was a big change for me and I had to move nearly 2000 miles but everything just worked out really well. Definitely in a better place than I was a year ago mentally and physically.

>>40670134
I’m not able to find this myth but I’m very interested in reading more about it if you have a link.

>>40670188
dude i'm on day like 5 months and i'm still basically the same socially anxious guy. i did say "hi" to beautiful women on the street though, so it's all relative

>>40667973
>Fucking dumbass. Having sex REDUCES the effects of prolactin entirely. Believe it or not but the body actually KNOWS the difference between real sex and artificial sex (fapping). Just because you feel like shit after cooming doesn't mean everyone else does. Plenty of men out there living fulfilling lives while cooming excessively (picrel). Maybe instead of cooming to your hand for the 1000th time, try finding looking for a real woman like chad and cooming inside her like you're biologically wired to do.
LMAO Prolactin is four times higher with sex than with masturbation.
This is what causes guys to get "pussy whipped". They are thoroughly soaked in feminizing, depressant prolactin.

>>40670390
Epic of Gilgamesh

I just had sex, this is my first relapse in 26 days. I almost did it, just a few more days and I would've completed a full month.

>>40670435
this is an elementary understanding of hormones. with hormones there are always two other elements: your sensitivity/receptivity to the hormone (you become more sensitive to testosterone on semen retention), and your chronic levels of it

so dumping yourself with prolactin after sex may have 4x the amount for a certain period of time, but if it decreases your prolactin the rest of the time relative to masturbation, it may explain why you feel "higher T" when you have sex with an actual woman and don't masturbate

>>40665177
blessed checked
thank you anon :)
you got this 2 m8

>>40670418
did your depression disappear at least?

>>40670418
Huh, interesting. I'm at month 6 SR and find it easy to look at and flirt with women when I'm outside. Even had a few occasions where they said hi to me first.
Compared to back in January when I was the Admiral of cooming, I would always look away or down with cold sweat on my back.
No need to be afraid of women, once you talk to enough of them you learn they run the same operating system.

>>40666913
you soundd based anon like to ear you /x/ stuuf about sr when everybody only talk about science and boring story about addiction

turbo cooming = hate women
sr = women look interesting

>>40670480
Drop some more gems on hormones and the human body.

>>40667973
>Having sex REDUCES the effects of prolactin entirely.

stress can up the prolacin and if you have real sex whit love witha beautiful woman you will still have dopamine after .so it can reduce the effect of prolacin .. also if exampe its a new relation you feelll love and all that you have a lot dopamine because of that and dopamine block prolacin. so its good.. but sex dont reduce prolacin its the dopamine that stay after if you are in love or whit a beautiful woman..
sex can only reduce prolacin only if you are on high fucking stress


sex boost your T level its maybe that what you talk about.

all this shit come from the fact that after jerkingoff to porn you close the goyhub website and are alone whit noting but real sex have a woman to kiss and hug still after

>>40668968
It could be due to something else...

Otherwise, high dopamine levels in the nervous system accelerate the heart rate and constrict blood vessels, which can cause headaches..

>>40664696 (OP)
>unironically using a 40K image for a hecking baste semen retenterino thread

lol

lmao

>>40670435
if real sex give x4 more dopamine after sex prolacin will be remove faster.
porn will give you 0 dopamine after so prolacin will stay longer..the only way of coomer having dopamine is to watch porn again to reduce is high level of prolacin..but in the long run is dopamine receptor will not work anymore and he will die of gooning

how many of you could actually have free sex if you wanted to but are choosing because of SR vs how many of you are just PMO addicts without access to free sex? What are the differences between Semen Retention and NoFap?

>>40671058
I have had sexual relationships in the past and many hookups and serious relationships. Even though my conditions are not good right now I could have sex if I put my mind into it. It has never been a problem for me. Semen retention and nofap are different (for me) in the sense that SR is more related to the spiritual/esoteric aspects of semen retention and NF is more related to porn/masturbation addiction. In my case masturbation (not so much porn addiction) is a way to cope with stress and avoidance. It has affected me in many ways and I want to se what's life is like without a drug addicted brain.

>>40670435
>>40670480
>>40670942


You have no idea what you're talking about you fucking retard. Again, most men out there living fulfilling lives even cooming excessively. Why do you cunts ignore this fact? Obviously you're fucking wrong.

When you have sex. Theres other chemicals released which mitigate the effects of prolactin. So it means you don’t experience the negative effects of prolactin. Things like oxytocin.

Oxytocin is a bonding chemical. It makes sense that after orgasm it makes you bond. Which leads to the million dollar question? What happens after orgasm and there's no one there? You bond with your screen.

AGAIN, you fucking retard. The body KNOWS when you're having REAL sex and ARTIFICIAL sex. WHAT IS SO HARD TO UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS? WHY ARE YOU SEMENFAGS LIKE THIS? PRESENT FACTS AND DATA NOT BRO SCIENCE. LAST (YOU) to YOU. DUMBASS.

>>40670435
Masturbation is infinitely worse than sex. You're officially too far gone if you're making statements like this

>>40670188
>>40670418
The thing you anons need to pay attention to is that you need to do confidence building activities together with SR, decades long habits and patterns won't change over night because you are doing SR.
The intention to change will be more effective though, so remember, complement your SR with physical and intellectual activities.

>>40671089
>The body KNOWS when you're having REAL sex and ARTIFICIAL sex

No it does not, you sir are retarded.

>most men out there living fulfilling lives even cooming excessively

based on what? I've asked successful people and it seems they do it less than most

>>40671189
just keep fapping and let the rest of us do our thing

>>40671089
No point arguing with these people

>>40671165
>confidence building activities
such as?

>>40669137
Day 45

“Overpopulation -- and all other negatives you witness in your world -- are not actually caused by any exterior condition or thing. You cause them for yourself, from within. The destruction of the "Garden" [of Eden] you continue to witness in your world-movie comes only from the sexual pollution building up in the movie projector -- your body. Whatever is in you, is seen without. For example, if you eat a certain way and let certain types of impurities build up in your body, it actually influences the "movie" of life that you are watching on the exterior. At the subtle plane of the chakras, sexual indulgence is a form of pollution. By building up the sex vibration in our lower chakras, we darken our personal world, coarsen our personal karma, and bring storms into our lives.” - Bliss of the Celibate by Julian Lee.

Okay anons, what's the over/under on prolactin. How long does it really take for it to be out of your system and for dopamine to return? I'm currently on my first serious go at SR on day 6, some annoying urges but I'm thugging it out and meditating daily.

>>40664696 (OP)
fuck.
7 months SR.
I peeked at porn and then closed it and walked away. Edged for like 10 seconds and something immediately snapped me out of it and reminded me that this lust is fake and the "good" feelings will soon fade with releasing anyway. So I was able to immediately stop.

Idk if praying to god or what helped me but man this is becoming scary but also I feel like I have the awareness now to catch it fast now. It feels like some war over good and evil is happening inside my body.

It's different this time too, it's not like the start of SR. of just fighting ignoring the lust. This feels like I'm being attacked, an entire spiritual battle almost greater than even myself is taking place. An invisible soul battle over my seed. I plan to take SR over 12 months but things are almost flowing on their own path now.

Any fucking SR wizard gods in here know what the fucking is going on? I had to start wearing a st michaels pendent around my neck and when I take it off now. This shit keeps happening. Did I psych myself out or why the fuck did my mind think to even get this pendent to begin with. It was an intuition that I followed, I don't even have strong Christian ties but it felt right at the time.

>SR wizards with goated deep knowledge. Please explain what the fuck I am experiencing. thanks.

I feel like SR was an important piece of the puzzle for me. Everything else I've ever struggled to be consistent with like meditation, exercise, yoga, breathwork, dreamwork, socialising, reading, discipline (like working harder or quitting addictions like cigs, weed, 4chan) seemed to fall into place when I tried using "don't cum" as a spiritual pursuit. I still struggle with checking porn, sometimes i give into temptation and wank so I don't have any 1 year streaks or anything. and I can't lie and say that I definitely wouldn't want to cum if I found a woman but I'm glad i started trying this.

>"endure the pain goyim"
>"it gives you superpowers and jesus' approval"
>but IRL it makes you horny to the level of mental illness
ha, you fell for it you dumb niggercattle

>>40671950
lol that's crazy bait, also false.
That is what happens if you coom daily.

>>40671963
yes yes goy endure the pain

>>40671089
>When you have sex. Theres other chemicals released which mitigate the effects of prolactin. So it means you don’t experience the negative effects of prolactin. Things like oxytocin.
>Oxytocin is a bonding chemical. It makes sense that after orgasm it makes you bond. Which leads to the million dollar question? What happens after orgasm and there's no one there? You bond with your screen.

Oxytocin does not mitigate the effects of prolactin. If that were true a man could keep erect indefinitely after orgasm since prolactin shuts down the sex drive. Oxytocin is mainly released by touch. You aren't getting touched through a screen. With a partner the bulk of oxytocin bonding is happening BEFORE orgasm not after.
After orgasm your dopamine is gone along with much of your desire for your partner.
That's why SR is advisable regardless of if you have a partner or not.

>>40672004
This guy is correct. Having sex with a partner/girlfriend/wife does not negate any of the negative effects of ejaculation.

You can just as easily be addicted to sex as you can with porn/fapping. Sexual control has been a thing in cultures for THOUSANDS of years, far before fapping to vids on the internet became a thing.

>>40672004
>>40672052
>Oxytocin does not mitigate the effects of prolactin
>With a partner the bulk of oxytocin bonding is happening BEFORE orgasm not after.
>That's why SR is advisable regardless of if you have a partner or not.
>Having sex with a partner/girlfriend/wife does not negate any of the negative effects of ejaculation.


Masturbation is almost a pure dopamine hit, even without porn (PMO is a mega dopamine overload and is extremely damaging for your brain, not to mention ultra addictive), whilst sex involves some dopamine but also oxytocin, healthy endorphins, more serotonin.
It’s healthier, more balanced, more rewarding, less harmfully addictive and less damaging.

i will not masturbate today.

>>40671089 from >>40670942

>You have no idea what you're talking about you fucking retard. Again, most men out there living fulfilling lives even cooming excessively. Why do you cunts ignore this fact? Obviously you're fucking wrong.

When you have sex. Theres other chemicals released which mitigate the effects of prolactin. So it means you don’t experience the negative effects of prolactin. Things like oxytocin.


I just said that if you make love and have a good relationship with your partner you will secrete dopamine after ejaculation because of love.. dopamine stops the effect of prolacin.. you include me for nothing
but
Thank you for doing this because it proves that you're the one who's retarded.
Oxytocin promotes the production of prolactin.

It's dopamine and testosterone that block prolactin.

If you have a fulfilling relationship, you'll naturally have elevated dopamine and testosterone levels.

If you have a shitty relationship, testosterone and dopamine aren't elevated.

(T and Dopamine affect your relation whit other)

>>40671193
enemy spotted

i just shoved an eggplant up my ass but didn't cum, did i fail?

>>40664905
I'm 28. I'm basically retired and on my death bed right now.

anyone get pimples from masturbating after abstaining for a while?

>>40671925
2 hours... prolacin is destroyed after this time. If prolacin is present longer, it's because you don't have enough dopamine to block its production and secretion... it's also secreted by stress.

This is why elevated levels can be present for several weeks. Dopamine stores are depleted.

Dopamine is created from l-dopa, which is created from tyrosine, which is created from protein.

...but too much dopamine can also affect sleep quality .

>>40672282
i will make 2 masturbates to make up for it

>>40672592
no? you might have anthrax brother, go to a (non-jewish) doctor or have a shaman blow mapacho in your face

You are the universe experiencing itself. If your retain for a long time, your are denying the universe that huge orgasm so it will send women to you to make you release it. I'm guessing that's where the magnetism thing people experience on semen retention comes from

Remember that by doing SR you are basically castrating yourself, the same as eunuchs were castrated back in the day. By removing their sexual drive they literally became slaves with no will of their own. This is the same as what this psyop is trying to achieve, do you think this would have went so mainstream if it was true? "BUT IN LE ANCIENT TIMES" Yep thats the point, this psyop has been running for a long time and its time we stop it.

>>40672770
>do you think this would have went so mainstream if it was true
honestly my only exposure to semen retention was here and various spiritual texts i'd read. recently learned it was big in the "wake up at 4 am and take an ice bath" sigma grind crowd and it's making me second guess it

>40672770
By doing SR you regain free will. Dare I say too much willpower

>>40672770
>the same as eunuchs were castrated back in the day.
They had their balls removed making it impossible to do SR you fucking retard

>>40672801
They are the end form of SR, they can never coom and end up slaves

>>40672650
Interesting, thank you anon. Before I was fapping more than once a day, so it'll probably take a few weeks I guess?

>>40672817
You clearly do not understand the basics of SR and are just another Shill

>>40672827
You can see plenty of people reporting low testosterone, "flatlines", and even no sexual drive at all on very long streaks, no sexual drive is literally the equivalent of an eunuch

>>40672737
That's just gonna lead to wet dreams desu

>>40672770
After being on SR for a year - I agree. Last year I would've called you a shill. What happens after a long retaining period you do feel neutral when you lack any sexual charge. If you hit the gym every day and work on your goals - although you can still perform fine and do the work... without the motivation of sex, you lose that extra edge, like that extra 1% that makes a difference between 8 reps and 10 reps. The difference between practicing your instrument for another 20 minutes rather than calling it quits. The recovery process after you nut is your body performing optimally - all the gears are kicked in motion

>>40672840
Whatever helps you sleep at night coomer

>>40672844
He's right. But do what works for you though.

>>40664696 (OP)
I'm looking for a rational basis to implement semen retention. So far I got:

Sex is meant for reproduction
The ideal wife is a friend, not a fornicator
Porn shifts perception so much one loses sight of the shore
Research on masturbation is taboo Within a secular society, only a few positive conclusions are allowed, negative conclusions are punished or dismissed
Trillions of dollars are probably moved by lust
Lack of belief in eternal life leads to frequent masturbation
Detachment => more creative power => more money and women
Attachment => less power => frustration => coom cope

What creates detachment: resting, chilling, yoga nidra, relaxmaxxing, moderate alcohol, wu wei(no forcing), being ready to die

Triggered a demon in the other thread lol

>>40672874
Humans are just animals, all animals have a strong urge to reproduce and we're no different not finding a "mate" will drive you to search more, even better yourself, make a nicer nest, make a nicer bird song. This is no different in humans except we can just masturbate to fill the void of no mate. Humans are animals at the end of the day and all animals have the same urge to reproduce.

You're right that a lot of money is spent on Lust, Porn is controlled don't let it control you, there is a reason it is free, you are the product, you stay lazy and consume.

I have years and years of porn use to try and fix, when you see the hottest women on earth getting their brains fucked out in whatever scene and scenario you can imagine you become desensitised to it, you become numb to it, you don't want to go out and find someone less than perfect because you have infinite amounts of perfection on your phone screen that will do whatever your kinkiest desires are.

>>40672928
>the hottest women on earth
aren't doing porn.

>>40672944
You're just arguing semantics you fucking tard

>>40672957
you don't even know what that term means lol

I feel ALIVE bros. But I wanna fap so bad what do?

>>40672841
>The recovery process after you nut is your body performing optimally - all the gears are kicked in motion
It's exactly like hitting the gym. SR is like avoiding the gym to preserve the muscle you already have. When in actuality you need to exhaust your muscles and go through the recovery process in order to grow.

You would think that after 100 days of nofap / SR you'd be a lot hornier, but that's actually not the case. What usually happens is your sex drive will slowly become dormant. Your sex drive is highest during the recovery process of your last nut. Use it or lose it

seems like the thread attracted quite a bunch of faggots really concerned with what other men are doing with their genitals....quite a bunch, apparently, because I put my virtual tokens in a lot of samefagging.

>>40673247
This is false. It takes the body a considerable amount of time and resources to create semen, and there's no reason to believe your semen or sex drive becomes stronger the more you expel or use it.

I still have a sex drive and I still have urges to watch porn and touch my wiener, but it's easier to shrug off those urges now and they also dissipate more quickly.

It's actually quite annoying having a rock hard boner all night and trying to pee in the the dark. Nightly challenge for me now.

>>40673304
This >>5913562

i just coomed.. thrice in a row without any breaks. but i didnt watch any porn, just how bad is it to fap with porn compared to without?

>>40673304
Shut the fuck up

Is it just me or have the shills changed tactics to promote fapping without porn

>>40673537

Yes they are trying many new strategies that all end with spilling your seed. Ironically suggesting not doing so is slavery might be the funniest one.

A man has as many masters as he does vices.

Not many topics on 4Chan that are as aggressively attacked by shills as SR I'm seeing.

At some point I'll have to make an SR thread with additional input of what I've learned and experienced over nearly 10 year of practice and research.

is there any benefit/downside to edging on nofap besides the risk of failure.

I'm noticing when conflict with people I care about or emotional distance happens, and it's not resolved immediately, I default to porn and masturbation as a nervous system reset. It’s not about lust - it’s about coping with pain I haven’t processed.
How do I break this cycle ?

>>40673537
>>40673603
Idolization of SR will be the end for all of you. Its incels like you have ruined these threads many years ago.

>>40673664
All I can suggest is what is currently functioning in my life. Workout to exhaustion and immerse yourself in subjects of study

>>40673673
>Idolization of SR will be the end for all of you.

Don't idolize it then? There are lots benefits and its worth noting them for others who don't know.

>>40673673
>ruined these threads many years ago.

The general theme of these threads is straightforward and always has been. Gain control of your most primal urge and retain your life force energy. Once you retain it then apply other practices and life style changes for further enhanced benefits.

>>40673673
Instant label lmao

>>40673816
>>40673833
Shit like this is why I don't want to visit this place anymore. You people are fucking insufferable man.

>>40673603
Im honestly kind of impressed by their creativity. They have been trying to spin up new ways to sabotage other people for weeks now. Its one thing to use the same strategy over and over, but these guys are just inventing new stuff on the fly. Imagine if they used their creative pursuits elsewhere and for good use.

>>40673860

All I did was say there are lots of benefits and I will make a thread sharing them for others who don't know since this is a topic I have a lot of personal experience in. I see some pertinent info in these threads often not mentioned.

Then I summarized the main theme of SR.

Friend none of that is insufferable. I'm doing nothing but conveying information.

>>40673887

Its beyond just regular people being upset about self gratification. There are organized campaigns by probably various intelligence agencies and other adjacent organizations.

There is an old news article which I could probably find where Mossad captured air waves in hostile territory and immediately began running hard core porn as a psychological operation to try weaken & distract enemy combatants.

>>40673925
Holy cope, intelligence agencies coming in a thread with a few people. The porn was just demoralization tactics and humiliation, obviously theyre not thinking they are gonna jerk off and lose their "powers' lmao.

>day 21
I used to be proud of my memory. It got shit in my 20s, but after 2 weeks I'm remembering so much stuff, music. I can remember a whole song on my mind now.

>>40673925
Yeah it was when the Israelis invaded Ramala.

You can call them intelligence agencies, but I just call them children of Moloch. When Jesus died on the cross some of his last words were "forgive them father for they know not what they do"

These people are unknowingly being influenced by demons and doing their will. I used to be one of their agents when I didn't have a strong relationship with Christ. I still sometimes do their will even. If its possible for me to have my mind governed by the flesh like my relapse last night, imagine what its like for these guys. They are probably more blind than malicious. Maybe one day they will open up their eyes and see that they are doing the bidding of demons.

>forget to read scripture this morning or pray
>relapse
Very disappointing. I'll aim to do better this time. Gonna read Psalms, did wonders for me on my longest streak.

>>40673603
>Not many topics on 4Chan that are as aggressively attacked by fags and shills as SR I'm seeing.
It becomes a problem when so many engage them, and seems they have resorted to samefagging to give the impression others are also engaging and agreeing with them. There's definitely some institutional interest also, I've public ads in physical spaces encouraging masturbation in men.
Thought the SR/NF thread in /x/ was going to be easier going than /adv/'s but it suffers of the same problem, I guess I'm glad it's not just my imagination.
>>40673925
This anon gets it.

>>40673321
>This is false. It takes the body a considerable amount of time and resources to create semen,
You're right, it takes 64-72 days to produce a full sperm cycle

>and there's no reason to believe your semen or sex drive becomes stronger the more you expel or use it.
A lot of people do report lower sex drive after long, clean streaks - the 'flatline.' Personally I notice my sex drive at its peak days after I nut.
Your sperm quality does get better with increased frequency of ejaculation - in terms of successful pregnancy
https://cosmosmagazine.com/health/frequent-ejaculation-improves-sperm-quality

>I still have a sex drive and I still have urges to watch porn and touch my wiener, but it's easier to shrug off those urges now and they also dissipate more quickly.
>It's actually quite annoying having a rock hard boner all night and trying to pee in the the dark. Nightly challenge for me now.
Is your streak really clean? As in you're not peeking or fantasizing? If so that's good, keep doing what you're doing. Many people experience a flatline because your body's essentially telling you: "This guy isn't getting laid so let's keep things calm."

>>40673947

Intelligence agencies specifically employ people to monitor forums where "wrong-think" is prevalent and create counter narratives. The idea is to suppress ideas before they grow. There are lurkers not just posters too.

Also weirdly a lot of mainstream ideas start on anonymous boards before they make their way to more established social media platforms. People are more willing to be honest and forthcoming on these boards which is in low supply these days and what people crave.

>>40673947
>obviously theyre not thinking they are gonna jerk off and lose their "powers' lmao.

I never said that. They will lose drive and focus though its beyond just demoralization.

>>40673959
>but I just call them children of Moloch. When Jesus died on the cross some of his last words were "forgive them father for they know not what they do"
>These people are unknowingly being influenced by demons and doing their will. I used to be one of their agents when I didn't have a strong relationship with Christ.

While people are often unintentionally caring out the agenda of evil, I would not discount how pervasive intentional evil is in modern times.

>>40673988
>Thought the SR/NF thread in /x/ was going to be easier going than /adv/'s but it suffers of the same problem, I guess I'm glad it's not just my imagination.

It was near impossible making the threads on /pol/. Every time I'd get slid to bant, thread deleted, and then banned for 3-7 days. Its a shame because the threads always grew quickly with a lot of organic interest from real people who wanted more information. I would tell people to just ignore the shills and use their own discernment/abilities to consider the information, research more outside of the thread, and then apply if it made sense.

>>40674038
Yeah but no one cares at all what you do with your penis. Practicing safe sex with someone you trust is actually really good for you - not only mentally and emotionally, but it's good for your physical health all around

>>40674081
>Yeah but no one cares at all what you do with your penis.

Yet when the benefits of SR are discussed there are blatant shills that disrupt conversation. Real people would come across the thread see it isn't for them if they don't agree, and then move on to something else.

What you say isn't entirely accurate. I somewhat speak on this in another thread in the tagged replies below:

>>40603514
>>40603910
>>40603992
>>40604112


Going through multiple partners even if they are trusted at the time is harmful in the long run. The ability to pair bond is diminished although it can be repaired.

>>40674081
>Practicing safe sex with someone you trust is actually really good for you - not only mentally and emotionally, but it's good for your physical health all around
Experts agree masturbation is good for you too, haven't you heard? As well covid boosters. Have you got yours?

SR is good. I'm sure the intention driving it has importance, but just practicing self control is pretty good in my opinion. My world is pretty good, and I think SR makes it better.

>>40674141
>What you say isn't entirely accurate. I somewhat speak on this in another thread in the tagged replies below:
A lot of your reasons for doing SR is from what other people told you. And also referencing Montauk Chia is funny, because he actually encourages masturbation in moderation. If you wanna be a celibate monk, that is your prerogative - not many people can do that, so more power to you.

>>40674186
Safe sex is good for you and you'd be foolish to argue that point. In fact, you are a product of two people having sex as hard as it is to believe

After 4 years and about 700 daily masses and 300 confessions I think I'm finally ready to give up. I can't be saved. I'm sorry Jesus, your sacrifice was in vain for me, I tried

>>40670576
no, i didn't have it, and if anything i get more severe bouts of melancholy. but i get the sense it's "dark night of the soul" type melancholy where God is prepping me for something better

>>40670928
people love to say dopamine is a reward chemical, like "dopamine = pleasure from doomscrolling" but its adverse effects when you fuck with it are far, far more insidious. dopamine is a motivation/reward neurotransmitter. when you get a "rush" or feel "butterflies" seeing a hot woman, that is dopamine saying "yes, pursue this!"

if you masturbate to 1,000 women online with constant novelty that is unattainable in real life, it will utterly destroy what you are supposed to be like in nature when it comes to interacting with the world.
you're supposed to be an absolute champion, or at least have the inner drive to become one if you see a beautiful maiden whose heart can be won by the winner of the tournament. the dopamine of just thinking about a woman so beautiful and within your reach should make you able to run through walls, scale mountains, swim across shark-infested waters, etc. so when you go sploot on a computer screen and you have to watch absurd taboo porn just to feel a little something like excitement (but you're so numb there's no point calling it excitement), you have ruined what you could have been. you could have been the champion.

fuck. porn.

>>40674249
>A lot of your reasons for doing SR is from what other people told you.

No that isn't why at all. I started doing it in my early to mid 20s because I noticed a massive difference in my drive between when I would orgasm from sex with my live in girlfriend at the time and when I wouldn't orgasm.

I had a highly physical job and we'd have sex in the morning before I left but if I came it was like I was missing an "edge" that was required for performance at the highest level. So noticeable that I started doing research.

I don't recall Montauk Chia actively encouraging masturbation in moderation. He said what I said below its been awhile since I read his work.


>>40604112

>Spilling your seed in any way does lessen your life force. As you get older it takes much more time to recover. I've found that the longer the streaks its a compounding effect so to speak.

He said that 1 drop of semen is equivalent to 100 drops of blood.

>>40674249
>if you wanna be a celibate monk, that is your prerogative - not many people can do that, so more power to you.

Literally anyone and everyone can do it. That is the point. Doesn't have to be forever if you don't want but its worth undergoing to experience the benefits.

>>40674249
Spilling seed is bad for a man whether with a partner or not.

>Ejaculation is often called "coming". The precise word for it should be "going", because everything-the erection, vital energy, millions of live sperms, hormones, nutrients, even a little of the man's personality-goes away. It is a great sacrifice for the man, spiritually, mentally, and physically.

It is a SACRIFICE made by the body to produce new life. If you are not using that to create new life it is literally degenerate.

>>40674336
we should rename it "going" for sure. some species full on die when they "go." and they want to act like it's harmless for us

>>40674303
you can't save yourself, but Jesus saves. never give up anon, keep returning to Him

>>40674010
>Your sperm quality does get better with increased frequency of ejaculation
>https://cosmosmagazine.com/health/frequent-ejaculation-improves-sperm-quality
You disingenuous little rat. That study of only 118 men was looking at men with ALREADY DAMAGED DNA, and 20% of the men reported a DECREASE in sperm quality. What a dumb fucking "study" for you to get behind. Not only is it meaningless your claim is also just flat out wrong.

>Personally I notice my sex drive at its peak days after I nut.
NOBODY gives a fuck about your sex drive. It has NOTHING to do with how well your spiritual health is improving. Lusting after bodies isn't a good thing, spiritually speaking.

It sounds like YOUR actual goal here is to increase your sex drive and get laid. Don't you think you could go somewhere else for that kind of NPC-tier help? Do you really need to come here and try to lecture everyone on mainstream science perspectives when they're looking for occult information? Fuck off mate.

>>40674349
he can heal lepers but can't heal a broken porn addicted mind...go figures. I never complain I have a great life and great family, but after 4 years no one is coming to save me.

>>40674326
>I had a highly physical job and we'd have sex in the morning before I left but if I came it was like I was missing an "edge" that was required for performance at the highest level. So noticeable that I started doing research.
Of course, sex with ejaculation makes you sleepy due to all the hormones you release after. That's a fact. But when that recovery process starts and your sex drive is back to normal, there really isn't any evidence that there are spiritual / tangible benefits that come with extra retaining. I went on full SR for over 1 year and it didn't change my life in any way. I am literally in the same spot as I am a few years ago (which I'm not complaining about, I love my life). I did like the fact that I had more self control and proved it to myself. Just being honest.

>I don't recall Montauk Chia actively encouraging masturbation in moderation. He said what I said below its been awhile since I read his work.
Check out Mantak's most recent video:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTncGCWeLPM

>Doesn't have to be forever if you don't want but its worth undergoing to experience the benefits.
More power to you brother

>>40674372
the only thing broken about your mind is your penchant for giving up

>>40674363
Kek, you are really angry bro. Calm down, it's not that serious.

And while getting laid is nice, that's not my top priority. The reason why men conquered the world (and not women) was due to a high sex drive that practically exclusively only found in men. If channeled correctly, you can do great things with it. If you lose this sex drive, you lose that edge.

>>40674303
Satan wants you to believe you are iredeemable. They are just lies anon. Thats what hes best at.

>>40674414
>Check out Mantak's most recent video:

His old books he wrote in the 80s professed to the conservative side of retention and I find it incredibly (((suspect))) he has changed tune. Not hard to figure out which narrative would sell better to the masses.

John Chang, the Mo Pai/Nei Kung guy, specifically mentions how orgasm and sex can disrupt your ability to charge your dantiens/energy storage centers in the body.

The Magus of Java book

To the point, where if you try and meditate even with in 3 days of release you can permanently damage the "energy sack" tearing a hole in it causing it to leak and never fully saturate.

I've read Opening Of The Dragon Gate: The Making Of A Modern Taoist Wizard which are teachings of the Tao and it focuses more on spiritual development, looking within, meditation, and discipline. Not gooning.

Its a shame Mantak has sold out.


>>40674414
>there really isn't any evidence that there are spiritual / tangible benefits that come with extra retaining.

I mention in another thread below. Its just the tip of the iceberg:

>>40598012

>>40674524
>Opening Of The Dragon Gate: The Making Of A Modern Taoist Wizard

In fact it highlights the idea of sensory deprivation as a means to eventually be able to quiet the mind and look within.

>>40674372
I wrote this an hour ago, I decided to go to church and when arriving a lady in a wheelchair wearing a beanie came out, her arms had red stains as if a leper. She wasn't healed and she was there. Jesus is God, I'll continue to grow in faith and trust him thank you all.

>>40674598
if a lady in a wheelchair doesn't give up neither should you. good job anon

>>40664696 (OP)
We are coming up on 1 year of SR but the urges are getting more intense than I feel I can handle all of a sudden? I did pray to go to give me his hardest tests...

So this is not something I wasn't expecting but it is incredibly difficult. I've been inflicting minor self pain and training demon hand bhudda heart technique. the self inflicted pain is keeping the sexual desires at bay for now.

And I'm starting to have raging boners which wasn't a thing before.

At maybe half a year all sexual thoughts and desire were gone and controlled. So this feels like I'm at day 0 again but I am not and I don't know why. This intense sexual energy and boner inducing feeling is also highly powerful and I can hold that energy now in more of a constant state to use it's energy like a drip feed. but it does require to be in an animal like frenzy. The slight difference now is instead of gooning and failing I can just sit with the intense feelings.

>>40674464
>it’s not that serious to me
Then leave asshole. You sound like a basement dwelling teenager who watches Andrew Tate all day. You’re in the wrong neighborhood.

>04/07
Navigating the waters with grace and ease.

>>40674303
Pray the Rosary. EVERYDAY. At least five decades.

t. Day 680

t. Day 680

>>40667863
Pray the Rosary anon.

t. Day 680

just a warning for people who take this too seriously. I took SR too seriously and now I have been dealing with chronic pelvic floor issues after a long streak ended and I experienced immense guilt that manifested in psychosomatic symptoms. Still trying to break out of the mental prison.
Ignore some of the weirdos in this community that take this shit too seriously

>>40675082
a) jewish
b) retard
c) agency faggotnigger
d) all of the above
you're one of those

>>40675082
kys subhuman demonic freak you’re way too obvious

>>40675082

>>40675122
>>40675175

Most likely hes a shill but to give the benefit of the doubt its possible he made some mistakes.

I've been orgasm free for over at least a 2 year streak without any issues.

If you are edging frequently and bringing yourself to near orgasm or exposing yourself to highly graphic sexual content you can strain yourself. Especially if you are bringing yourself to orgasm over and over in a day and then trying to shut down the release. For the vast majority of people the related muscles are weak and are prone to damage form overuse.

As far as guilt goes, once you realize how damaging masturbation and porn is in the long run guilt is probably normal if you were to relapse.

That being said finding a good woman, actually fostering a relationship and falling in love, then consummating it I doubt you'd feel guilt.

I mentioned somewhat related things in older threads as well.

>>40603827
>>40597874
>>40651364

>>40664736
U people are delusional

>>40675345
you're a good hearted anon. I wish I was like you, I just hate most of humanity.

>>40668033
This. I also notice I'm more irritable after I relapse too.

Day 8 I think

Noticed I'm more energetic and in a better mood in general, regardless of anything around me that usually annoys me.
Had two very detailed dreams last night, neither of them sexual at all. Just very vivid, and one of them was sort of a worrisome one (involved me hearing about a large object descending to the earth and people panicking). I hope it wasn't a premonition dream...

>>40671950
Suffering builds resistance and strength. It helps you grow, don't be a pain avoider.

>>40675082
>chronic pelvic floor issues
Lol that's a new one. Got tired of the "testicular cancer" meme and had to start a new scare tactic? BEGONE FOUL SPIRIT

>>40674343
>some species full on die when they "go."
Yep. Everytime a coomer thinks he's healthy, show him a post-breeding salmon after mating season is over. They start rotting and turning almost zombie like and their bodies break down into nothing. They literally coom themselves to death. This is what happens when you jack off all the time, I don't know how much more obvious it can be.

>>40675576
These people will literally say that its a salmon so it doesnt apply to them, but will go on the record denouncing creation because Darwin saw some gay finches so therefore we evolved from monke.

I need to remember the salmon the next time I have strong urges. Dying both spiritually and physically.

>>40674524
>Its a shame Mantak has sold out.
I don't think he sold out. I think it is a pragmatic and reasonable take, instead of regurgitating the "sex = bad" meme that we've been ingrained with growing up. You were created through the act of sex, and to try to repress and demonize that aspect in you is to be at war with one of the deepest parts of yourself

>>40675679
>I think it is a pragmatic and reasonable take, instead of regurgitating the "sex = bad" meme that we've been ingrained with growing up. You were created through the act of sex, and to try to repress and demonize that aspect in you is to be at war with one of the deepest parts of yourself

Denying oneself in often a general a requirement for spiritual advancement.

It actually doesn't feel like repression. Once you overcome the serpent something changes. I talked about it here briefly in this reply tagged below

>>40603094

>I've mentioned this on other threads years ago on /pol/. You actually start to care about other people more and you are at peace most of the time. A peace that surpasses all understanding. One thing I noticed is that my inner monologue is basically silent at all times now. Unless I actively want to think about something like a task I'm working on the default is quiet. Prayer is more powerful and you just have a closer connection to God. You start to have lucid dreams all the time too.

I also don't think sex is bad ( in some obvious instances it is) but I am saying masturbation and porn are harmful. Regardless he obviously sold out.

The cover image title of that video he recently released was:

"Masturbate your way to Heaven"

The top comments were all jokes about how this spiritual path was "right up their alley". It seems pretty obvious he's just memeing and parody at this point to make money.

His old book had some solid actionable information in them and were actually edifying. Now its more a joke which is unfortunate.

>>40675754

Also this reply

>>40603827

>The alternative is to over come the urge and work to open the energy centers in the body which require various physical exercises, life style changes, and unburdening yourself from past mental trauma. Seek God/Jesus Christ and have faith. Be reborn.

>Eventually you no longer will have any side effects nor will you have the urge or desire. You will control it and it won't control you. The itch leaves you and instead you are just energized and at peace.

>>40675754
>Denying oneself in often a general a requirement for spiritual advancement.
Ouroboros - Chasing one's own tail

True enlightenment comes from complete self acceptance

>>40675818
>True enlightenment comes from complete self acceptance

If you are implying "self-acceptance" means engaging in your most hedonistic desires freely at a whim any time you please then you are mistaken.

You must over come the serpent within not nourish it.

>>40675889
WRONG

>>40675889
WRONG

Never said this. You don't understand TOTAL self acceptance and until you do, you won't be enlightened.

>You must over come the serpent within not nourish it.
What causes this serpent to exist?

>>40675889
Just stop and think for a moment. Where do these hedonistic desires come from? Where does desire come from? And what is the source of desire? What causes someone to desire something or someone?

And reflect on what I said about complete self acceptance.

Best of luck

>>40675926

You are simply suggesting obedience to yourself and your desires.

True enlightenment comes from obedience to God.

Of course you dismissed my interpretation to your definition of "self-acceptance" so then please define it?

>>40675939
No need to be vague or indirect. Just explain what "complete self-acceptance" is in your own words.

>>40675946
Explain what true enlightenment is

>>40675949
>>40675949
>Explain what true enlightenment is

Experiencing oneness and union with God through obedience & communication with Him.

I mean literal events where His presence is experienced. For an example, I've had moments of pure peace wash over me praying to Lord Jesus Christ. Peace that surpasses all understanding. Like a switch that was flipped in an instant from normal baseline to all is right in the world in this very moment.

You were the one who both introduced the terms "complete self-acceptance" and "true enlightenment" but yet you refuse to define them.

>>40671984
what pain? Pain is pleasure my friend. See through the veil

>>40674336
This is 100% accurate, but the energy build up becomes super intense on a long streak that you almost NEED To learn this technique of transferring the sexual energy up into the rest of the body.

>>40674336
Sex with someone you love is fine though. Love is a more powerful thing than SR.

Day 37
God is good
Wagmi

>>40667973
>>40668121
>>40672447
I wonder how much prolactin is released when you coom in your sleep. Sometimes you can ejaculate without orgasm and sometimes you orgasm without ejaculating, in both cases i have found that the stuff you ejecalute isn't semen or at least not the great majority but what is called pre seminal fluid, this because of its smell, viscosity, color and other stuff, you can also realize by yourself when you have a wet dream that what you ejaculated isn't semen but pre seminal fluid because of the stains it leaves on your underwear, semen on underwear not only looks very white and has a different viscosity, smell etc but after drying up it literally leaves cum stains very noticeable and the smell afterwards etc, but the stuff you ejaculate when you have wet dreams is totally different, looks different, smells different etc and sometimes if not all times doesnt even leave stains, it's more watery-like with a small amounts of semen if any at all which i suppose is just normal to have some leftover semen or whatever the place it comes idk, what i know is that this preseminal fluid generates when you get aroused, it is made by the prostate and other glands not the testes, it is supposed to be ejaculated a long or before you orgasm and ejaculate into a woman but since you are just getting aroused and don't jerk off it builds up and it's literally worthless for the body cuz the purpose it's to clean up your dick so the semen can travel better, so the body gets rid of it in the night. Now about the prolactine I can say by anecdotal experience that I don't feel the same shitty way i feel when i used to jerkf off and coom.

>>40676160
This could be why spiritual attacks are usually not through wet dreams. They can't get any semen so they target you though things that can (porn). There are last resort moments where spirits will cause docturnal emission that does result in the actual thing happening. People on here have mentioned it happened to them, but I think it's rare.

>>40676160
Cont
I have also found out to be true something that i read here(i think) that is; having erotic dreams don't make you coom, cooming makes you have erotic dreams(rephrased btw). I have a lot of self awareness in all my dreams, i know im dreaming every single time but i just let it play cuz i enjoy the "randomness" and i have experienced a lot of the times that i just be having "normal" dreams and out of fucking nowhere an erotic scene appears and im forced into it because it literally appears when im about to coom already so it's not about temptation at all (ofc there are dreams when you can avoid coming if you stop engaging with the erotic dream but those are not as usual) so the only option left is either let it happen it fully and just nut or you know clench your pelvic muscles and don't let the pre seminal fluid come out which when i started doing all this years ago i thought i was actually doing something but after careful examination afterwards i realize by peeing in a glass right after having a wet dream that it goes into your urethra and then it leaves your body thru your pee so anyways so it is very clear it's useless to clench your muscles and risking yourself to hurt something in your dick or whatever down there if you are already pass the point of no return and the cooming is inevitable.
Like i said sometimes i have had wet dreams without the dreams nor orgasm part and just waking up with the fluid in my underwear, sometimes i have had dry orgasms in my sleep that make me literally moan involuntarily without any liquid being ejaculated and i think this kind of dry orgasms in your sleep is a way your body uses to get rid of stress because they don't feel like anything i have expressed in all the times i jerked off nor do they involve any erotic imagery for it to happen, just a powerful orgasm out of nowhere in the middle of your sleep with no fluids involved and originated fully from your prostate and not from your dick.

>>40676160
>>40676207
>>40676211
happened to me this night, I forgot about it, don't feel any difference

>>40676207
I just posted the "cont" to my post and it involves what you mention about nocturnal emission, i would reply to you with the same stuff so just read it and if you have something to say after it just reply to it.
As far as spiritual attacks there is something extra i would like to say which is that i believe these entities/demons/whatever name implant thoughts in you in your awake state during the day. I will literally never ever go back to being a pathetic coomer but i can be chilling during the day and out of nowhere a thought enters my attention sphere and its content is all about doing coomer shit haven't done in years, bunch of "what ifs" like what if i do it one last time, what if i just edge, what if just watch, what if i just watch softcore etc etc etc what ifs. And it literally last a few seconds or minutes and afterwards im literally like "where the fuck did that shit came from? It is fucking outrageous that i would ever consider doing such pathetic coomer shit again" i believe those are entities trying to make you coom so they can feed on your energy.
For your knowledge, every time you open a pornsite you open a portal and literally egregors/demons/archons/whatever come out of it and surrounded you feeding onto your energy until you coom, if you don't have the ability to see this naturally just take psychodelics that aren't synthetic and if you have enough energy store up you are gonna be able to "see" these non corporeal entities, just be careful cuz they can see you too so don't pussy out and defend yourself and kill them. I doubt any of you would ever experience this and if you do you will probably go insane, cry for days or and cope by saying it was all fake but oh let me tell you it's all real and they are everywhere by the billions feeding on humans like we feed on livestock. So yeah these entities can implant thoughts onto you of any kind specially erotic ones but also sad ones from your memories so you feel sad and they feed on thattoo

>>40676226
We are in full moon days (2 days before the day and 2 days after are full moon days) so your body is... How could i say it... Idk i cant think of an appropriate word so let's just say your body is in "its moon days". On these days you can experience different things depending on each individual, some more energy during the day and can't sleep or wake up early, others more sad, others more angry, others more horny, others more hungry, others more peaceful, others feel more "love" around them etc etc it depends on each individual and "what they are" so in their full moon days whatever they are gets exacerbated and umped up thus why each individual may feel different during its moon days.
As such everyone should always check what phase of the moon they are in everyday and do a summary of how they felt during the day, you can write it down if you want too so after doing this eveyday or regularly as much as you can you are gonna start noticing patterns in your behavior associated with the phases of the moon. After you identify what are your particular experiences in all moon phases and particularly full and new, now you can take precautions for when your body enters its full moon days. For a lot of the population is hornyness, sadness and angryness during these days so if you one of these take precautions, don't let yourself go on episodes of angryness/lashing out because something or someone made you mad, same with don't entertain thoughts about bad experiences you have in the past, same with horny stuff dont let yourself get caught into erotic thoughts or watch erotic stuff. Whatever spiritual practice you have you gonna have more "benefits" if you do it in your full/new moon days. You can also follow the normal advice you hear about avoiding wet dreams such as don't eat too close before bed or face down etc etc.

>>40676251
>i believe these entities/demons/whatever name implant thoughts in you in your awake state during the day
I'm the anon you replied too, I believe this too. I've randomly had thoughts of "oh I've been doing so well, it's been almost two weeks since I started SR, I deserve to fap now" then I realized WAIT why would I ever try and rationalize that?! The idea that all your thoughts arent your own is very true and more people need to realize this. Thanks for the post anon

>>40676226
Also
>happened to me this night, I forgot about it, don't feel any difference
Yes this is the usual/common feeling after a "wet dream" with or without the dream or wet part.
Usually spiritual attacks in your dreams involving sex energy (there different kind of spiritual attack dreams such as nightmares to make you release energy too) have depraved imagery, you are in a scene doing some sex related act for a while and eventually coom, during this time you feel there's something wrong with this regardless of how good it feels or how much you want to do it, cuz yk it's a dream so any fantasy is possible, and in this attacks you always have the choice to stop and change the dream or wake yourself up (as opposed to what i mentioned before about having an erotic dream appear out of nowhere when you are already cooming). If you don't wake yourself up or change the dream and you go on with it, the "dream" it's gonna get played out until you finally coom and literally feel how you are getting your energy sucked off from you, like a vacuum on your dick. These are spiritual attacks but once you learn to identify them and reject them, they are not gonna work on you anymore so they are less likely to happen in the future, this is what they call the matrix attacking you, so this doesn't mean they are gonna stop trying to milk your energy, they are just gonna try other mediums, for some a hot girl/s would appear out of nowhere and sooner than later become your gf or fuck buddy but this goes nowhere and they just successfully milked you out of the precious energy you spend days cultivating. YOU ALL WILL BE SURPRISED OF HOW MANY GIRLS LITERALLY HAVE PACTS WITH THESE ENTITIES AND ARE PROMISCUOUS VOLUNTARY SO THE ENTITIES FEED ON THE ENERGY FROM THE MEN THAT FUCKS HER AND THEN THEY MAKE "FAVORS" FOR THE GIRL. Do not worry tho, these females would have a horrific, really horrific destiny when they die and enter the astral real or whatever you want to call it. Worse than hell

>>40665620
When you hear your instincts silently say "we should jack off", you just respond with a "no way, fag"

Touching dicks is gay as fuck

>>40675345
You’re defending shills and treating this like it’s a Christian diet program to follow once in a while. Do you know where you are?

Guys, I've been not jacking off for a while now and doing some meditations, and I think I angered something. How do I safely proceed and protect my safety. Also, exercising to exhaustion has helped me overcome urges.

Brace yourselves: those who wish to distort the truth and twist this path of spiritual liberation into something else are here in full force.

>>40676462

I did neither of those things.

I stated what I did because its important. If other posters read his comment and did in fact experience some kind of discomfort during SR, then it was necessary to clarify for them why that might be happening.

Its not the SR alone but likely because they were doing other practices in addition. So by assuming he was posting in good faith, I was able to give necessary information to him and lurkers who may have incorrectly identified with what he was saying.

I wasn't condoning edging, but simply stating if he was doing so it can cause similar problems he was saying he had.

I mentioned in this thread that everyone may not want to do it forever and that is fine. I touch on the that in the tagged posts below from other threads.


>>40603992
>>40603910

wet dreams make no sense, you're supposed to get a spike in prolactin which reduces sex drive after cooming, but after wet dreams im always 10 times hornier

>>40676564
>then it was necessary to clarify for them why that might be happening.
Says you, and with your Christian scientist narrative.

Look, do you go to AA meetings just to tell them it's fine to slip up once in a while? No? Then why are you doing it here?

>>40676639
>Look, do you go to AA meetings just to tell them it's fine to slip up once in a while? No? Then why are you doing it here?

Because SR isn't alcoholism. Alcoholics know they shouldn't drink anything.

For some reason a lot of people on SR think they can edge without complication. The whole point of my post was explaining that you can possibly hurt yourself and of course you will most likely just relapse.

I'm getting the sense you are being intentionally combative when I've posted nothing to warrant it from any of my posts or the posts I tagged from other SR threads.

>>40676683
>I'm getting the sense you are being intentionally combative when I've posted nothing to warrant it
Asking about your true intentions here is not combative. I've already mentioned a few times what the problems are with what you're saying:
>Christian fundamentalism "seek God, be reborn" meaningless drivel
>Nothing occult or paranormal to what you say, whatsoever.
>Mainstream media sources with bad studies and bad data.
>"reproduce, consume, feed the machine" is a good pursuit in life.
You are on /x/, paranormal. Nothing you say is paranormal. What you're pushing is the mainstream, the status quo:

>"use SR to get laid"
>"use SR to get a wife and have kids"
>"use SR to know Jesus better"
>"use SR to make more money"
>"use SR to increase your sex drive and conquer the world"
These aren't paranormal discussion items.

>>40664897
i wish subliminals could work with semen retention lol

>>40676732

There are no IDs here and so you seem to be confused which posts are mine and which aren't.

>>40676732
>"seek God, be reborn"
Yes, Following Christ is ironically both the most direct and honest spiritual path, but also simultaneously full of mystery. Christian monk is peak supernatural.

Look into the book The Way of the Pilgrim.

>>40676732
>>Nothing occult or paranormal to what you say, whatsoever.

Also false

refer to

>>40598012

Of course that wasn't the only reply where I mention supernatural occurrences over the last few SR threads on here.

>>40676732
>>Mainstream media sources with bad studies and bad data.

Didn't post any of that

>>40676732
>>"reproduce, consume, feed the machine" is a good pursuit in life.

People were saying they didn't want to be a celibate monk their whole life. My response to them was that is reasonable. Worshiping God, finding a good woman, falling in love, getting married, and having children is a respectable path. Its not an esoteric path though. I did note in previous replies that SR is necessary for the highest spiritual advancement however.

>>"use SR to get laid"

Never said that


>>"use SR to get a wife and have kids"
I never said that directly but its ideal to do SR while searching for a spouse imo


>>"use SR to know Jesus better"

Absolutely true.


>>"use SR to make more money"
>>"use SR to increase your sex drive and conquer the world"

I never posted about these.


Yes you are being intentionally combative.

Its kind of funny people don't realize how paranormal or supernatural a personal relationship with the Source and creator of all existence actually is.

I have without a doubt experienced more in that realm through immense faith and prayer to Lord Jesus Christ than any other practice

Being reborn and baptized with the Holy Spirit is specific event that people all over the world have given testimony. In addition to the gifts of the Holy Spirit that some receive.

man this is fucking impossible as a neet

>>40676936
>>40676936

Probably easier as a neet

>>40675424
I get the skepticism. I was like that too but there is something weird about it. I get the regular benefits (increased mood, less depressive thoughts) can be related to prolactine and dopaminergic issues related to an addictive brain. But there are other stuff that I just cannot explain.

>>40670390
>>40670134

>>40675946
>No need to be vague or indirect. Just explain what "complete self-acceptance" is in your own words.
True self acceptance is dissolution of the ego - no separation. COMPLETE acceptance of everything - all the things you like about yourself as all the things you hate about yourself. The reason why people get stuck on the hedonic treadmill is because they can't accept some parts of themselves.

>Experiencing oneness and union with God through obedience & communication with Him.
So you have to trust that God made you how you are for a reason, and that everything he is putting you through is for a reason, correct? If you fap all day or drink all day that isn't self acceptance, that's escape from what God is putting you through is it not? A person who accepts themselves the way they are - would they have unconscious urges to do anything? Where do these urges come from? For example, people who want to quit smoking but know it's bad, yet keeps doing it, is unknowingly putting themselves through this very thing. I am cryptic because this is something that can't be explained, only understood when the time is right.

>>40674363
370 days is based i want to do SR to always be angry i need that kind of mindset

>>40675576

Fish die of exhaustion because they swim a lot.

If you breed them in an aquarium, they stay alive even after being bred several times.
If you had to swim as much as them to reproduce, you too would die after reproducing.

kek

>>40676160
You secrete a little prolacin when you sleep. This is normal, and it's also used to stabilize dopamine when you sleep. Too much dopamine doesn't help you sleep.

Prolacin isn't as bad for your body in normal amounts. It's also secreted during exercise.

Prolacin becomes problematic when you destroy your dopamine reserves. Because at that point, prolacin becomes too high, creating a vicious cycle where too much prolacin blocks dopamine, and therefore prolacin continues to remain elevated.

>>40677198
can you elaborate? i've had like zero woo-woo stuff happen to me this time but have had it in the past

>>40676602
when you wake up you have more dopamine and T in your system

>>40675576
>>>40675576

>If you breed them in an aquarium, they stay alive even after being bred several times.

sorry not true.

They die of exhaustion but it also ends up being programmed into their DNA so they are programmed to die afterwards

IM SO FUCKING HORNY

>>40676602
Testosterone at its highest when you wake up. That's why you wake up with morning wood and deeper voice than usual.

>>40677408
Its almost unspeakable how domesticated the average man is. Theyre like little fuckin gerbils. Its all for sex too

>>40677820
Personally I believe that we are riddled with pleasure as a test from god. Or whatever entity created the universe. If you master it and transmute it in any way it alters reality in a way. I don't know how to explain it logically because it's not possible. I feel like there is something with manifestation and LOA also. That there is something in reality that can be bent with enough belief and energy. I call it Vril, but others call it prana or chi. The biological stuff is great by itself and not having a dopamine riddled brain is a benefit in itself. But when the time passes and you incorporate spiritual practices such as meditation your life circumstances start to change.

>>40678074
is it highest when you wake up or in the morning? asking because i have a fucked up sleep cycle and wake up at 5 PM and go to bed at 3 AM and i work out from 12 till 2 AM

day 256 SR

I went on a spiritual journey and fought a djinn in spirit. The semen/penis itself is an "evil" persay spirit trying to exit your body as a soul.
If you trap this djinn escaping through releasing you will obtain real magic ability over the universe around you.

I've found this and know it to be true.

>>40678074
im not talking about when i wake up. Im horny for the entire day or days after wet dream

>>40678223
yeah same here, that's the leading cause of my relapses

>>40678248
Do you meditate, do any physical workouts. Do you see this as a spiritual practice or are you counting the days? I'm a lifelong masturbation addict. This last months have been hell and I decided to change for good. the first change is starting SR and becoming more spiritual. I haven't had any urges strangely. Like none at all.

>>40678159
>Personally I believe that we are riddled with pleasure as a test from god.
It's just a part of life. You need to experience pain to experience pleasure. If life was an infinite orgasm you wouldn't know what an orgasm is, it'd be just your point of reference for everything else.

>>40678268
i have been an extreme coomer ever since the age of 11, i dont really believe in spiritual stuff but i just want to quit this addiction and i hope it will get rid of my anxiety and shit like this, and i do lift but probably in the least efficient way possible because i have no idea what im actually doing. i dont meditate.

>>40676063
Orgasmic sex causes repulsion between partners. You may have built a bond strong enough to resist it, but overall it makes partners much more likely to fight, break up, cheat, etc.due to habituation, which orgasm causes (in men AND women)
All the benefits of sex can be had and bonding increased by avoiding orgasmic sex.
Everyone in this thread who isn't planning on being a monk for the rest of their lives should read "Cupid's Poisoned Arrow".

>>40678295
If you have a discord I can help you with the workouts. I have been lifting for 20 years. Meditation is a must. Do it for yourself. A drug addicted brain will never be happy, will never make good choices, will never live in the moment.

>>40678311
i dont have discord, im a 4channer.

>>40678319
well i used to have discord but i got banned for webhook trolling

>>40676602
There's often no prolactin with wet dreams, and no sperm cells ejected - it makes perfect sense since wet dreams happen to get rid of excess fluid, but the body does not want you to feel satiated, because it wants you to reproduce.

>>40678300
>Orgasmic sex causes repulsion between partners. You may have built a bond strong enough to resist it, but overall it makes partners much more likely to fight, break up, cheat, etc.due to habituation, which orgasm causes (in men AND women)
All the benefits of sex can be had and bonding increased by avoiding orgasmic sex.
I disagree. Orgasm releases bonding hormones such as oxytocin, very potent ESPECIALLY with women. I gave an ex her first orgasm and even years later she won't leave me alone. But for men I do agree.

>>40678300
>Orgasmic sex causes repulsion between partners. You may have built a bond strong enough to resist it, but overall it makes partners much more likely to fight, break up, cheat, etc.due to habituation, which orgasm causes (in men AND women)
>All the benefits of sex can be had and bonding increased by avoiding orgasmic sex.
I disagree. Orgasm releases bonding hormones such as oxytocin, very potent ESPECIALLY with women. I gave an ex her first orgasm and even years later she won't leave me alone. But for men I do agree.

>>40676160
>>40676211
Good posts and my observations match yours, however this part I don't agree with:

>or you know clench your pelvic muscles and don't let the pre seminal fluid come out which when i started doing all this years ago i thought i was actually doing something but after careful examination afterwards i realize by peeing in a glass right after having a wet dream that it goes into your urethra and then it leaves your body thru your pee so anyways so it is very clear it's useless to clench your muscles and risking yourself to hurt something in your dick or whatever down there if you are already pass the point of no return and the cooming is inevitable.

I don't think clenching the pelvic floor muscles at orgasm causes retrograde ejaculation (emission going to bladder). I think clenching overrides the muscle spasms which cause it to shoot out, and so it just stays where it is. On the other hand the method of pressing on the perinuem does cause retrograde ejaculation since the spasms still happen but emission is redirected to bladder. Checking urine after a clenched orgasm it looks clear for me.

>>40678334
Wet dreams and conscious ejaculation are the same thing. If you have a refractory period you'll experience that after a wet dream. Difference is because you're already asleep, the body recovers faster and you experience a spike in testosterone

>>40678486
I've had wet dreams with refractory period and without. Sometimes rock hard for like half an hour immediately after!

>>40678545
>Sometimes rock hard for like half an hour immediately after!
Sounds pretty normal tho. Wet dreams are essentially a hands free orgasm. Justifying that WDs are different from any other method of ejaculation is cope.

How do I cope with the aftermath of cooming to avoid the chaser effect

My immediate environment is very dark.
I was reading Psalms mostly for the sake of positivity, but I'm caught in a serious negative feedback loop. What do you guys do to enhance your orientation towards positivity

>>40676251
>>40676329
> these entities/demons/whatever name
Not necessarily they have to be external influences, like spirits, it might as well be that the "whatever" is your brain itself hoping to get another dopamine shot and creating all sorts of situations where you get triggered enough to do it.
>>40676160
>>40678462
>Clench vs press.
Indeed in the first it doesn't stay in the urethral tract but rather gets reabsorbed by the body, unless you pee shortly afterwards, the second I don't advise to anyone and especially not to nofappers as it creates energy blockages in that zone.

>>40678818
>What do you guys do to enhance your orientation towards positivity
If you may, try working with Jesus Christ instead of the Psalms.

>>40678595
I've never maintained an erection immediately after a normal ejaculation. There is definitely a difference in the hormonal effect with wet dreams.
Logically it does not make sense that evolution would create a mechanism which satiates you with illusion, which would caused missed breeding opportunities. It would be like having a dream about eating a meal and then waking up feeling full, despite actually being starving, missing food opportunity.

When a man desires a woman, his mind is bound as closely as a calf to its mother. - Buddha

I'm not saying SR is good or bad, but when I went into a long-ish streak (for me) of 2-3 weeks I had so many spiritual insights to the point of exhilaration; I still remember how my mind naturally wandered to clarify these mysteries of life with natural energy and disposition, without any effort on my part. It's like a form of holy curiosity had arisen within me. Crazy stuff.

>>40675082
I'm not ashamed to relate this since it will help others but when I was masturbating constantly I had so many physical issues. Pain on my knees, on my balls, a hunched back, some feeling of trapped energy on my chest which caused me deep anxiety, and sharp pains on the bones of the sacrum (I think). And there's probably more that I'm not remembering right now, besides the all too common issues that everyone knows about it. Little imps like you that try to troll these generals are only accumulating severe bad karma for your own lives, because people are trying to achieve a good thing here and you're acting like the devil, lying and misleading - what do you think the consequences are? The universe always collects its debts. I know you're young and foolish and think this is a game you can play without any harm for yourself, but speaking from experience, your acts always come back to bite you down on the ass, and suffering is really painful and miserable. Better to be quiet and avoid doing evil.

>>40678975
FACTS

>edged, didnt coom but had a wet dream

>>40678213
i always loved the SMT design of mara
it was always so 100000% bullseye

>>40664696 (OP)
any links to the first thread?

I did two months and I got a couple of comments asking me if I was using steroids. Something did happen to my body that I look more muscular.