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7/7/2025, 11:19:01 AM
>>714754659
>everything points to Starlo
>>714754898
>yeah there's stuff that points to someone other than Starlo but it's a red herring
>everything points to Starlo
>>714754898
>yeah there's stuff that points to someone other than Starlo but it's a red herring
6/16/2025, 1:53:52 AM
>>712768312
>does that make it a bad game?
Not that anon and I like UTY but I don't think you got the point of that criticism.
Toby took inspiration from a LOT of things when he made Undertale. You can point to a million things in Undertale or Deltarune and say "oh that's like Earthbound," "oh this mechanic is really close to this one RPG," "oh this soundfont comes from Touhou," "this character design reminds me of," "wow that's just the opera scene from Final Fantasy 6" etc etc. Games, movies, books, anime, Toby Fox has a lot to take from. Toby's also lived and met different people, collaborated on various projects which helped shape his worldview and his views on fiction. I have fortunately not read Homestuck but I'm told its influences are deep.
Undertale Yellow, while I appreciate what it is, really is just people who like Undertale trying to make a prequel to it, without any other major influences for the game. It's recursive and the writing lacks depth because the authors don't have anything to pull from, whether inspiration or experience (because they wrote the script when they were fucking teenagers and never majorly revised it).
To anyone working on a fangame or fanfic or even something unrelated to UTDR: broaden your horizons. Read, watch, play, learn, take in what you can. Don't just read "the good stuff" either; as anyone who's gone into detail about the problems with UTY at least unconsciously learned, poorly-made stories can provide as much or even more inspiration for one's own creativity as well-made stories. If something interests you, good or bad, take a look at it and think about what you're looking at while you do it.
>does that make it a bad game?
Not that anon and I like UTY but I don't think you got the point of that criticism.
Toby took inspiration from a LOT of things when he made Undertale. You can point to a million things in Undertale or Deltarune and say "oh that's like Earthbound," "oh this mechanic is really close to this one RPG," "oh this soundfont comes from Touhou," "this character design reminds me of," "wow that's just the opera scene from Final Fantasy 6" etc etc. Games, movies, books, anime, Toby Fox has a lot to take from. Toby's also lived and met different people, collaborated on various projects which helped shape his worldview and his views on fiction. I have fortunately not read Homestuck but I'm told its influences are deep.
Undertale Yellow, while I appreciate what it is, really is just people who like Undertale trying to make a prequel to it, without any other major influences for the game. It's recursive and the writing lacks depth because the authors don't have anything to pull from, whether inspiration or experience (because they wrote the script when they were fucking teenagers and never majorly revised it).
To anyone working on a fangame or fanfic or even something unrelated to UTDR: broaden your horizons. Read, watch, play, learn, take in what you can. Don't just read "the good stuff" either; as anyone who's gone into detail about the problems with UTY at least unconsciously learned, poorly-made stories can provide as much or even more inspiration for one's own creativity as well-made stories. If something interests you, good or bad, take a look at it and think about what you're looking at while you do it.
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