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Anonymous No.712751906 >>712753595 >>712753765 >>712754865 >>712755912 >>712760325 >>712760449 >>712762263 >>712767079 >>712767368 >>712771168 >>712797481
Undertale Yellow
How does it hold up? Are people still talking about this game in 2025, or is it doomed to fade into obscurity?
Anonymous No.712753595
>>712751906 (OP)
Deltarune has taken over all UT discussion. It’s (cl)over
Anonymous No.712753765
>>712751906 (OP)
there hasn't been much new yellow content lately
Anonymous No.712753869 >>712754912
I still laugh whenever I see "Hey Clover check out my new cut"
Anonymous No.712754865
>>712751906 (OP)
People still care, it's just obviously going to get completely drowned out by the brand new Deltarune release. I haven't thought about Yellow since DR released but that's only because I was entirely focused on the new thing. Now that I've played all the routes and talked at length about it I've been thinking about fangames again; I'm sure in a couple months things will stabilize.
Anonymous No.712754912 >>712755551
>>712753869
we need more DRY memes
>captcha: 0KANA
Anonymous No.712755425 >>712755742
Deltarune Yellow status?
Anonymous No.712755551 >>712765083
>>712754912
YOUR SHU IS TOO LONG
Anonymous No.712755742
>>712755425
DRY1: Dev is reworking/rewriting chapter 1
DRY2: Dev is setting up the battle system
Anonymous No.712755912 >>712756223 >>712756698 >>712757583 >>712760861 >>712760993 >>712762291 >>712812349
>>712751906 (OP)
is it worth playing or is it just as gay (figuratively) as other fan games?
Anonymous No.712755920 >>712756591 >>712765083 >>712770838
How would he fare against The Knight?
Anonymous No.712756223
>>712755912
Its pretty good.
Anonymous No.712756591 >>712756889 >>712765083
>>712755920
annihilates the knight in a single hit
Anonymous No.712756698 >>712794523
>>712755912
its surprisingly straight for something made by the Undertale fandom, it only has one minor they/them character and no lesbians or gays
Anonymous No.712756889 >>712788631
>>712756591
unlike a certain fraud we know
Anonymous No.712757583
>>712755912
It's polished and has some fun fights, including a god-tier neutral final boss (make your first playthrough a neutral run because the game doesn't lock you into it unlike UT). It has a cute bird and a retarded fox MILF.

The pacifist ending is terribly written and it overall has some writing issues stemming from the devs never doing a second draft. Also the first area is relatively unpolished because the devs made it when they were teens and never revised it. The bad parts of the game are in my opinion a large part of why the game still gets talked about: it's good, but it's so close to being great and that missed potential is addicting to talk about.
Anonymous No.712758080 >>712758169 >>712758316 >>712758337
>see this
wat do?
Anonymous No.712758169
>>712758080
Anonymous No.712758316
>>712758080
why is her neck so long?
Anonymous No.712758337 >>712758751
>>712758080
>she tries to inject you with the blue
>nothing happens except you becoming more violent since you're a human
Anonymous No.712758751
>>712758337
>get injected with blue juice
>skin becomes two shades darker
>your LOVE has increased
Anonymous No.712758818 >>712758878 >>712759373 >>712759576 >>712766846
I heard rumors that Sadie Junebug will be raped in the sweltering summer of 202x.
Anonymous No.712758878
>>712758818
fortunately i dont think either DRY anon intends to go as far as toby.
Anonymous No.712759373 >>712759771
>>712758818
Sounds like something RynoGG would do.
Anonymous No.712759576
>>712758818
This true?
Anonymous No.712759771
>>712759373
would happen in deltafell yellow
Anonymous No.712760325 >>712760448 >>712760487 >>712760674
>>712751906 (OP)
JUSTICE
Anonymous No.712760448 >>712763672
>>712760325
FUCK I missed
Anonymous No.712760449
>>712751906 (OP)
Deltarune is all the rage, but as the WAIT settles in I think Yellow would be talked about here and there. Deltarune Yellow being a proper thing is what'll catapult it back into attention
Anonymous No.712760487 >>712761513
>>712760325
Can't believe deltarune will actually take 10 years to fully release
Wonder how much the scope creeped with the team since if toby didn't get it the game would probably look closer to ch 1 and 2 art wise, 3 and specially 4 has a lot of "smooth" art that looks like those fanmade scene reinterpretation
Anonymous No.712760674 >>712761404 >>712761908 >>712775705
>>712760325
I forgot, is that guy called Gizmo in DRY1 just like in DRY2?
Anonymous No.712760861
>>712755912
The least gay thing ever produced by Undertale fans, it's very refreshing
Anonymous No.712760993
>>712755912
It's a game where doing the GE- I mean JUSTICE is more engaging
Anonymous No.712761404 >>712761908 >>712775705
>>712760674
He's called Gizmo in DRY 1 and something else in DRY 2
Anonymous No.712761513 >>712762645
>>712760487
Probably wouldn't have all those crazy sequences from chapter 4 either.

Honestly, I think I would have preferred that game anyways. A large part of why I like Toby's games is the charm of the low quality art.
Anonymous No.712761908 >>712775705
>>712760674
>>712761404
he is called gizmo in DRY 1 and pretty sure that in DRY 2 as well
Anonymous No.712762263 >>712770962
>>712751906 (OP)
Holds up pretty good
Anonymous No.712762291 >>712794358 >>712794523
>>712755912
It's actually significantly less gay than Undertale
Anonymous No.712762645 >>712763225
>>712761513
>A large part of why I like Toby's games is the charm of the low quality art.
Same. It's bittersweet that Toby is upping the production value so much, though at least it's better than his friend ZUN who has turned to AI despite being able to hire anyone he wanted to do art assets for him
Anonymous No.712763225 >>712765715
>>712762645
>though at least it's better than his friend ZUN who has turned to AI despite being able to hire anyone he wanted to do art assets for him
Why?
Anonymous No.712763672 >>712764635
>>712760448
Now I know why DRY1 anon didn't like the current state of the weird route
Anonymous No.712764635
>>712763672
At least he was able to recognize it.
Most fangames can't, and that's how you end with Deltatraveler.
Anonymous No.712765083 >>712765346 >>712765889
>>712755920
>>712755551
>>712756591
at this point, I'm convinced this is the actual redditor who made this powerwank oc
Anonymous No.712765346
>>712765083
No, I just really like jobbers. You're replying to two people btw
Anonymous No.712765715 >>712765810 >>712766020
>>712763225
It clashes with how Touhou games used to look and, subjectively, takes away from the previous appeal that literally everything in the game was made by one guy. ZUN has collaborated with artists for a few specific games before (no mention of the games Tasofro developed for ZUN) and it worked out fine, and I would much rather see him do that again if the workload is getting too much for him at his age.

Touhou Yellow art to keep things vaguely on-topic
Anonymous No.712765810 >>712766279
>>712765715
careful anon, you might attract them
Anonymous No.712765889 >>712766895
>>712765083
This place is Shu Nation, love it or leave it
Anonymous No.712766020 >>712766236
>>712765715
I mean why did he use AI?
Anonymous No.712766236 >>712766367
>>712766020
Probably just because it's easy. Japan doesn't have nearly the moral qualms about using that tech as the west, so a lot of minor elements in TH20's demo have been AI, with the major thing people recognized being the backgrounds for boss attacks.
I wouldn't care if it was any other indie dev, including Toby, it's just a special case for me when it's ZUN
Anonymous No.712766279 >>712766846
>>712765810
I think Undertale fans might be equally as mentally ill as them. Just look at the deltarune threads and then compare them to one of their threads.
Anonymous No.712766367 >>712766809
>>712766236
I don't mean morally why, I mean for what purpose? The guy is loaded, there's no way paying some cheap artist is going eat into his bottom line.
Anonymous No.712766809 >>712773028
>>712766367
ZUN has been cost-cutting in one way or another since the start. The PC-98 games contain outright plagiarisim i.e. traced-over sprites, and he uses stock fonts and stock images (the latter heavily edited to be less apparent) in appropriate places. He probably sees the tech as in that same vein, and probably never grew out of his "do it as cheaply as possible" doujin mentality. It's not a matter of needing to, but being able to get away with it. I doubt he expected such a big backlash from western fans, but he doesn't make the games for western fans so I imagine it'll carry through to the final game. Honestly the demo was one of the worst games in the series not factoring in the AI stuff, really buggy and the unique mechanic is outright awful, so he might just be losing his touch.

I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel with these images so I'll stop talking about 2hu now
Anonymous No.712766846 >>712767018 >>712767037 >>712767510
>>712758818
Not that either one would go that route(nor should they), but if DRY1's revised weird route Cole were to do that, it would probably be the culmination of his corroded sense of retribution and justice. And neither Kanako, nor Sadie, nor even Melody would be the target of his judgement.
That would be Martlet.
>>712766279
Remarkably tolerable, so not seeing the comparison.
Anonymous No.712766895
>>712765889
>Chara with a ghost Chara in the back
fuck, that got me
Anonymous No.712767018
>>712766846
>spoiler
I don't think this is about jaundice at all. I think you just want bird sex.
Anonymous No.712767037 >>712767285
>>712766846
>but if DRY1's revised weird route Cole were to do that
>That would be Martlet.
why would Cole do that to his own mother?
Anonymous No.712767079 >>712767429
>>712751906 (OP)
>How does it hold up?
I always thought it was an okay 7/10 but now that I've played Deltarune again I kind of think it's mostly shit. Like. Genuinely.

Like yeah I'd fuck the shit out of Ceroba, but Yellow is just missed potential after missed potential because the devs had a hard-on for their furry OC and couldn't fucking let go
Anonymous No.712767285
>>712767037
Because anon is horny for bird ass
Anonymous No.712767368 >>712770878
>>712751906 (OP)
hold up fine, missed opportunity in many areas, but its probably the best of the full fangames out right now.
Anonymous No.712767429 >>712767948
>>712767079
Would your opinion change if Deltarune ends up being the same way?
Anonymous No.712767510
>>712766846
MARTLET WAS A BIRD WHO MAY HAVE BECOME A MOTHER TO ME
Anonymous No.712767836 >>712768071 >>712768090 >>712768175 >>712785647
what kind of outfit is this? a jacket? a button up uniform shirt?
Anonymous No.712767948 >>712768107 >>712768312 >>712776701
>>712767429
At this point I can't imagine that happening, but sure? I mean. I've seen Homestuck. I don't think you can fumble worse than that.

My problem is that Yellow had a lot. It didn't have *so much*, but it had a lot it could have worked with. But I don't know, the devs just, kinda, focused on the wrong things and missed out the point on other things really hard, like the art direction. It's too clean. Too professional. It needed more genuine, sincere emotion in a lot of it that you can't really get from a bunch of kids aping their favorite indie game, trying to show off.

This is going to sound really weird but. Toby feels like an actual kid making games. A kid with genuine dreams, unpoisoned by irony and cringe. He makes what he wants to make because art is a means of expression where you speak to the world what's in your soul and hope to entertain along the way. It's the culmination of all of his inspirations and the things he likes in a way that's so diluted you can barely figure out what came from where. You don't really get that from Yellow. Yellow feels like Undertale made by someone who was inspired by... Undertale. That's it. It's a simulacrum
Anonymous No.712768030 >>712768190
has DR1anon said anything since DR 3+4 came out?
Anonymous No.712768071
>>712767836
Its the same shirt Berdly wears
Anonymous No.712768090
>>712767836
>a button up uniform shirt?
probably, Martlet just came back from work in the previous scene
Anonymous No.712768107 >>712768697
>>712767948
after chapter 4, all complaints about detailed art can be thrown in the trash
Anonymous No.712768175
>>712767836
A Walmart vest
Martlet gets up and has to contemplate the thought of losing custody of Cole while stomping and clapping to We Are Walmart
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JOkQJm_UGM4
Anonymous No.712768190
>>712768030
Yes over at the other thread
Anonymous No.712768312 >>712769390 >>712769513
>>712767948
>the art direction. It's too clean. Too professional.
Deltarune's started doing that too in the new chapters.

>You don't really get that from Yellow. Yellow feels like Undertale made by someone who was inspired by... Undertale. That's it. It's a simulacrum
Sure its not as good as Undertale, but does that make it a bad game? Does that by extension make any and all Undertale fangames bad games?
Anonymous No.712768697 >>712773750
>>712768107
I'd say they still apply, they just also apply to the latter half of Deltarune too.
Anonymous No.712769390 >>712769696 >>712772064
>>712768312
>but does [ ... ] bad games?
Probably not. I'd say Yellow is still not nearly as bad as something like Deltatraveler. It's just. Disappointing.
If you look at the plot of Undertale Yellow, it is as close it could get from Undertale. Why does every area have a presiding monster you deal with? Because Undertale does it. Why does the game have a very le hard ebin hidden genocide route? Because Undertale does it. Why is the route progression so similar to Undertale? Because that's how Undertale is like. A lot of things it does, it does because Undertale does it, and it ends up barely doing anything interesting beyond that. It looks too much at Undertale to know what to do. Boss monsters; The True Lab Storyline; The Mail; The nearly unchanged combat system; They even put Hopes and Dreams on Ceroba's final boss fight despite it not fitting in any possible way. (AND THEY GOT STUFF WRONG)

I don't want to say it's all bad, but it feels like they didn't really try thinking about what they could have done of interesting with the new perspective they have, instead of just redoing Undertale. You have a game about pacifism where the main character uses a gun, and, all you could think is... they only use it if you fight. Okay. Undertale has that too, I guess. You can't even use it for puzzles. Have someone on that fucking team watch Trigun to get SOME ideas.

I think what separates a derivative work from a work that's inspired is thought. Undertale is inspired by a lot of things that Toby likes, and, If you really break down that game, it's essentially just a very simplified version of Dragon Quest and Mother, with some Touhou and SMT in. And yet, despite all the things he took, he thought about how they would fit together in a way that made sense *for* Undertale. He didn't just do them because the things he was referencing did it too.

I'll go back on it. I don't think UTY is *bad*. But it COULD have been *really* fucking good with some better vision.
Anonymous No.712769513 >>712769696 >>712771046
>>712768312
>does that make it a bad game?
Not that anon and I like UTY but I don't think you got the point of that criticism.
Toby took inspiration from a LOT of things when he made Undertale. You can point to a million things in Undertale or Deltarune and say "oh that's like Earthbound," "oh this mechanic is really close to this one RPG," "oh this soundfont comes from Touhou," "this character design reminds me of," "wow that's just the opera scene from Final Fantasy 6" etc etc. Games, movies, books, anime, Toby Fox has a lot to take from. Toby's also lived and met different people, collaborated on various projects which helped shape his worldview and his views on fiction. I have fortunately not read Homestuck but I'm told its influences are deep.

Undertale Yellow, while I appreciate what it is, really is just people who like Undertale trying to make a prequel to it, without any other major influences for the game. It's recursive and the writing lacks depth because the authors don't have anything to pull from, whether inspiration or experience (because they wrote the script when they were fucking teenagers and never majorly revised it).

To anyone working on a fangame or fanfic or even something unrelated to UTDR: broaden your horizons. Read, watch, play, learn, take in what you can. Don't just read "the good stuff" either; as anyone who's gone into detail about the problems with UTY at least unconsciously learned, poorly-made stories can provide as much or even more inspiration for one's own creativity as well-made stories. If something interests you, good or bad, take a look at it and think about what you're looking at while you do it.
Anonymous No.712769696
>>712769390
>>712769513
>two anons locked the fucked in and had the exact take
what the fuck
Anonymous No.712770838 >>712771131
>>712755920
I can't believe i'm saying this, but holy shit is Shuhan is somehow less annoying that furfag trying to push their furry oc on reddit.
Anonymous No.712770839 >>712771354
Anonymous No.712770878 >>712771110
>>712767368
only because there aren't other finished full fangames besides outertale
Anonymous No.712770962
>>712762263
I will now play your game
Anonymous No.712771046
>>712769513
>Not that anon and I like UTY but I don't think you got the point of that criticism
He called it mostly shit, which would imply that its a bad game. I just don't think something being an unoriginal derivative makes it mostly shit. In fact I don't think there's anything wrong with being derivative, if that is what you set out to do, make no claims of being anything else, and do it well. UTY's problem is that its poorly executed. Its a mixed bag in every regard. It doesn't something good then immediately undoes it with something bad, and then at the end you're left feeling unsure or whether you liked the overall experience or not. A skilled writer would've caught these problems and solved them before release.
Anonymous No.712771110
>>712770878
>forgetting Overtime
Anonymous No.712771131 >>712771391
>>712770838
>Shuhan is somehow less annoying that furfag trying to push their furry oc on reddit.
who?
Anonymous No.712771168
>>712751906 (OP)
Good but mostly marred by all the lost potential.
Anonymous No.712771315
I need more dumb edits like this.
My favorite is always the
>You Genoslided my mom, The Roba?! I'm going to KanaKILL you!
Anonymous No.712771354 >>712774630 >>712781997
>>712770839
Even after Chapter 3 & 4 this bird still has a grip on my heartstrings more than any Toby character. I do not fully understand why
Anonymous No.712771391 >>712772165 >>712772170
>>712771131
I should not look at his account.. but somehow I'm not surprised.
Anonymous No.712771398 >>712771506 >>712771834 >>712772038
>autosage
shit, I'll try to make it quick
I really appreciate the people slaving over making Deltarune Yellow, as well as the anons here that keep the story alive through the occasional thread, but the recent release of Deltarune's Chapter 3 and 4 makes me think that DR:Y shouldn't be in the shadow of DR. I don't mean that in the sense of "it shouldn't be a fangame" but rather it shouldn't be trying to follow Deltarune's narrative so closely, especially seeing how the latest chapters BTFO all the patternfags around here. I get the feeling that Deltarune has a very personal narrative and that DR:Y's best bet is to have a narrative unique to itself. It shouldn't have a "Weird Route" because Deltarune has one, and there shouldn't have to be DR:Y characters made to fit the roles of characters from DR. Just posting an example: Kanako shouldn't be treated as a "Susie and Noelle in a blender" character, Kanako should just be Kanako, y'know? It's a new world, so it should explore new ideas, new themes, new experiences. I tried to get this out before this archived so it might not make a lot of sense but I had to get this off of my chest.
Anonymous No.712771506 >>712771834 >>712772038
>>712771398
it wasn't autosaged, but you're right. I feel like DRYanon fell into the same trap UTY devs did of trying to follow the "DR formula", when he could have went for something he personally wanted with these characters instead
Anonymous No.712771834 >>712771928 >>712772038
>>712771398
>>712771506
Maybe this can be fixed in a newer chapter story update?
I haven't played DR:Y. So I don't know if it's a done deal yet.
Anonymous No.712771928 >>712772038
>>712771834
DRYAnon said he's revisiting everything, basically
I'm very excited with him trying out something with the 5 member party combat. That looked like something that could be VERY unique to his take
Anonymous No.712772038 >>712772396 >>712772408 >>712772464 >>712772903 >>712791687
>>712771398
>>712771506
>>712771928
>>712771834
I admit I was kinda too focused on the "formula" at first but I also had no idea how to proceed, I literally made up stuff as I went, but at least anons and other feedback helped me rethink how things should go and I have a better idea of what to do now, hence why I am redoing chapter 1
doubt I will get to the same "level" as toby or the story will get as wild as its getting in DR, but I will try to do something I'm satisfied with at least
also limiting myself to only 5 chapters helps too since I feel this should be enough to do what I want, trying to force 7 chapters out of this would drag it too long and the game would have even less chance of being finished
>weird route
I kinda want to add it but it would double development, I can probably put some of the ideas for boss fights I had for it in the main route under secret bosses instead
still thinking how to go about it
Anonymous No.712772064
>>712769390
>Because Undertale does it.
The problem here is that when making an Undertale game it is very much a requirement to do things because Undertale did them. Otherwise you end up with a game that can't be called Undertale. The relationship between UTY and UT is very different from the relationship between UT and Earthbound. One has the freedom to pick and choose what elements it borrows and changes, the other has a much stricter formula it must stick to.

Is it really an Undertale game without the FIGHT/SPARE system, the large cast of strong antagonists, and the silly story that hides a much more serious side?

I agree that their issue is thought, but the solution isn't to simply abandon everything and rebuild it from the ground up for originality's sake. At least not if you're making a fangame. You, as a developer, have to copy the formula of Undertale and create a new game, with new characters, new battles, and a new plot using it. And the thought comes in on how to make it work. Make it feel fresh, while not deviating too far from the source, how to make all the old elements fit together in a new and engaging way, how to make them work seamlessly with the new elements you introduce. You still have to do a lot of things because Undertale did them, but you must know why they were done so you can do them properly (and maybe not do them, while maintaining that Undertale-ness if necessary).

>I think what separates a derivative work from a work that's inspired is thought
I disagree with your usage of the term "derivative". I think derivative work can be very creative and inspired. It just has to be derived from something else. Most sequels are derivative works, yet many of them are very well made and creative. I think a better term would be to say UTY has a cargo cult mentality. It mimics Undertale without fully understanding what its copying and in the process fails to fully capture what made Undertale great.
Anonymous No.712772165
>>712771391
>those colors
oh no
Anonymous No.712772170
>>712771391
>fox sans
>tranny colors
>ms paint
This has to be a parody
Anonymous No.712772396 >>712772760 >>712772981
>>712772038
Maybe do it in Bits and Pieces. (sorry bad joke).
Like DO the main story. Get that all fleshed out. Then after all if it is done, completed, shipped and you're happy with it, sit down and think how you can make alternate routes as a future update.

Like don't do it all at once. That's one way to burn yourself out. Your passion will guide you forward.
Anonymous No.712772408 >>712772981
>>712772038
You could always just add the weird route later or not all if you don't want to.
Anonymous No.712772464 >>712772981
>>712772038
I think instead of thinking it on the term "weird route", maybe try thinking it as "Side B". Like Resident Evil 2 or Sonic Adventure games. Maybe have you play as someone else.

The thing is that the "justice" motto for Yellow *will* get corny unless you have a burst of insane writing inspiration that makes it really count. So I'd say it's better to stick with the game focusing on it's main route and if you ever think something interesting, you try another thing
Anonymous No.712772760
>>712772396
The alternative routes wouldn't take as much time to implement once he's got the main route finished since he'd already have all the assets and an existing script to modify. He might be able to do it on the side while developing later chapters, or as you said, after the main story has been completed.
Anonymous No.712772903
>>712772038
I think you could try tightening in what the game's plot actually is. It feels very barebones currently. It doesn't need to be "there's someone making dark fountains go seal it!"
Anonymous No.712772981 >>712773096 >>712773278 >>712774051 >>712775432
>>712772396
>>712772408
>>712772464
yeah with the current weird route implementation, I went too hard into the "justice" thing, to the point where even I cringed at it
some anons gave some ideas last week that would be interesting, but I've been thinking since then and I am still unsure if I really do a side B/weird route thing
I have these ideas for specifically some end of chapter boss fights but I might just make those be secret bosses in the regular route instead, also there were some specific info bits only in the weird route but I think I can put them in regular route too
at least now I have a more concrete idea of what to do with the main route at least so I will focus on that for now
Anonymous No.712773028 >>712781792
>>712766809
Pretty sad desu, some of the touhou games not made by him look really fucking good like that metroidvania where you play female Dio
Anonymous No.712773096 >>712773396
>>712772981
Also I *beg* you to maybe take a look at Kanako again. I like her but she's *very*, very boring as she is. Just being "the local nice girl that very obviously likes you!" can go so far if you're planning on her being essentially the second main character like she is right now.
Anonymous No.712773278
>>712772981
I wish you the best of luck and I will play your fangame when I get the chance to!
Anonymous No.712773396 >>712773859 >>712775089 >>712775505 >>712778581
>>712773096
that's a tall order for me since I'm not that great of a writer but chapter 3 will have her bouncing against more characters with melody, gizmo and sadie in the dark world so hopefully that will help
Anonymous No.712773750 >>712774974
>>712768697
>toby fox isn't tobylikeβ„’ enough anymore
so trve
Anonymous No.712773859
>>712773396
That's okay, just keep that in mind when you're taking a look at the earlier chapters. I did expect her to flesh out a bit more later on since I saw the 5 member battle webm and thought that was the coolest shit
Anonymous No.712774051
>>712772981
I do like the foxlace ideas, hope those make their way in
Anonymous No.712774630
>>712771354
there's just something utterly endearing about her
Anonymous No.712774974
>>712773750
It happens, artists change over time. Compare JoJo panels from part one to modern JoJo panels, or look at how Dragonball changed over time. I suppose it is just a matter of opinion, but I think the art style of Toby's earlier work is better then his current one.
Anonymous No.712775089 >>712775505
>>712773396
You don't gotta be a great writer to do it. Just give her some negative traits and have them show up in chapters 1 and 2.
Anonymous No.712775432
>>712772981
As long as you make the main route good and the ending satisfying, you could probably get by without a weird route. It would still be nice to have though.
Anonymous No.712775505 >>712775868 >>712776759 >>712778581
>>712773396
>>712775089
speaking of Kanako and Cole, I think they should have somekind of character arc in the first chapter, in Deltarune CH1 you have Susie going from a total bully who opposes Kris and Ralsei, to someone who is still rude but can collaborate with the rest of the team
Maybe you could have Kanako being too reliant on Cole at first but then she needs to act on her own on a fight without Cole
Anonymous No.712775705
>>712760674
>>712761404
>>712761908
i actually came up with the gizmo name for DRY2.
he is very difficult to pull things together for.
his name was difficult, his dark world design theme was difficult for my spriter, and his ability set will probably be the weirdest of the cast.
Anonymous No.712775868
>>712775505
That sounds more like a chapter 2 arc. I think just having their arc be learning to play the game and how to do things in the dark worlds would be enough for chapter 1.

As a side note, I thought of a fun interaction DRYanon could include. If the player fails the ball minigame enough, Kanako will get mad and threaten the gate keeper. The gate keeper backs down and opens the gate after a funny interaction. This gives an interesting trait (a temper) to Kanako while also making the game less frustrating for low skill players.
Anonymous No.712776701
>>712767948
>flowey with the boot on his vine
Anonymous No.712776759 >>712776887
>>712775505
that is almost exactly my plan for DRY2, only its her main arc
>starting out, kanako has no self confidence
>she's fine when with other people, even complete strangers and when she's doing everything herself
>but when alone she starts getting stressed and taps out because she simply thinks she cant when alone.
>in the first chapter this requires her to sneak through an area filled with the equivalent of CH2's maus.
>if she runs into one she goes back to the start of the segment
>throughout the game she slowly becomes more independent, and will be capable of going longer without another party member
Anonymous No.712776887
>>712776759
I think that's a good one. Just maybe make it a bit more obvious, as she just seems very normal whenever she's with clover (which, well, is nearly every time)
Anonymous No.712777124 >>712777515
I just fought 6 of the same igloo crab enemy in a row. This fucking sucks; is it worth finishing?
Anonymous No.712777245 >>712777492 >>712777597 >>712777607 >>712777952 >>712778132
I understand turning to a fan game for copium while waiting for the latest chapter of snarky furries, but still making these threads even after the release of the latter, i'm starting to think some other shit is at play here.
Maybe either the threads serve as some gay hangout for fags, or need to be posted for some kind of schizo shitposting agenda
Anonymous No.712777492
>>712777245
why would fangames cease to exist after DR release?
Anonymous No.712777515
>>712777124
>is it worth finishing?
it gets better on, the dunes (area after snowdin) is when the game finally starts becoming its own thing
Anonymous No.712777597
>>712777245
>i'm starting to think some other shit is at play here.
That other "shit" is people discussing fangames in development, like the posts before yours talking about Deltarune Yellow
Anonymous No.712777607
>>712777245
yes anon we are the dark conspiracy furfag cabal that moves in the shadows of /v/ making our off-topic threads to accumulate DARK WOKE energy for our DEI overlords and one day we'll turn the whole board into the SBI Woketopia of Discord darkness that we have always dreamed off... do you dare stop us?
Anonymous No.712777952
>>712777245
>i'm starting to think some other shit is at play here.
Its autism
Anonymous No.712778132 >>712778365 >>712778372 >>712778602 >>712779065
>>712777245
now im not sure about the other anons, but i have a horrible case of fox rot in my brain.
first time i saw this image i didnt even consider her figure, my brain instantly went to the fluffy mass behind her and thought about burying my face in her tails.
and, even if i hate furtrash, UTY has a dead fox kid (and another dead child) in dire need of a good ending.
oh if i was just a little more brave, i'd think about adding a tail brushing scene to DRY2.
Anonymous No.712778365 >>712778816
>>712778132
>hate furtrash
>has foxrot
>developing an Undertale fangame
stop lying to yourself anon
Anonymous No.712778372 >>712778816
>>712778132
>oh if i was just a little more brave, i'd think about adding a tail brushing scene to DRY2.
do it you coward, its not illegal
Anonymous No.712778581 >>712779185
>>712773396
>>712775505
Kanako is the only child of well-off parents, both of whom (in UTY at least) are absolutely terrible with risk management. I think Kanako, given this environment, should be entitled and a bit lax in thinking through consequences. Even if you don't fully confront these issues in chapter 1 (because I think Susie's first character arc resolved too quickly in Deltarune, even if I like the character post-resolution), they should be set up and tested to a degree.

I'm gonna play DRY1 tonight, or at least Chapter 1 of DRY1, and I'll try to get the thread more specific feedback based on my playthrough
Anonymous No.712778602
>>712778132
you should just embrace the fluff and stop lying to yourself
Anonymous No.712778816 >>712779330
>>712778365
look man, i had an opportunity to give dead children a good ending and that involved a fox.
furshit or not, it called to me when DRYanon1 initally dropped it
>>712778372
but anon i am a coward.

anyways update later this thread hopefully, i got past the thing i was procrastinating on because i feared it wouldnt work the way i thought it would (it did work the way i thought it would and all that time was procrastinated for nothing.)
Anonymous No.712779065 >>712780042 >>712780707 >>712780776
>>712778132
To try and say this constructively, are you sure you don't just hate furfags? I enjoy furry women and if I'm in the mood furry boys and I really just hate how the average furry acts. It might not even be the average furry, just the type of furry with the loudest online presence.

Either way, know that that's your audience.
Anonymous No.712779185 >>712780072
>>712778581
Kanako would be really sheltered be really sheltered and spoiled.
Anonymous No.712779330 >>712780776
>>712778816
All I'm saying is there's nothing wrong with furgirls. Look at Kanako, are you really going to call her trash?
Anonymous No.712780042
>>712779065
>really just hate how the average furry acts. It might not even be the average furry, just the type of furry with the loudest online presence.
this was the same for me, I stopped caring about being called a furry and now I just enjoy the art, just because I like anthros that doesn't mean I want to draw a fursona or use a fursuit
Anonymous No.712780072 >>712781432
>>712779185
Kanako can be sheltered but it shouldn't stop her from thinking she understands the situation perfectly fine. She should have the same Dunning-Kruger as her mother, but it doesn't get her in that much trouble (in chapter 1 at least) because she expects Cole to do most of the workβ€”not haughtily, not ordering him, not thinking she's beneath doing it herself, just passively assuming he'll do it because her parents shelter her and don't make her do much work outside excelling in her extracurriculars and keeping her grades up. And Cole does the work, because he's the player character and that's how video games work, so it requires a third character to bounce off Kanako and challenge that notion. Cole can chime in on who's right in conflicts of that notion, but Kanako shouldn't be offended when told to do something herself, moreso confused and out of her element.
Anonymous No.712780707
>>712779065
Its possible to be a furry without being an obnoxious faggot. Nothing about liking anthropomorphic animal characters requires that you put on a suit, prance around in public, and speak with a valley girl accent.
Anonymous No.712780776
>>712779065
>>712779330
look i can understand the appeal of anthros, but they just aren't for me.
i need both flesh and fluff.
in the case of kanako, i just think that the japanese kitsune and cowboy human make a good ship and deserve a good ending.
Anonymous No.712781432 >>712793910
>>712780072
She's not retarded like Roba, she's actually pretty smart, just only in certain areas. Her problem is that she doesn't know that she's selectively smart and thinks she knows everything. She often fails to take into account things like other people's wants or feelings. She also tends to get frustrated when things don't go as planned, a combination of her father's scheming and her mother's temper.

>And Cole does the work, because he's the player character and that's how video games work
I don't think it's just that. He also genuinely enjoys helping her because he has feelings for her and because his jaundice brain makes him naturally prone to helping the defenseless damsel (even if she isn't actually defenseless or a damsel). He also came from a household where he was expected to help out a lot, so he's used to doing things for other people.

>so it requires a third character to bounce off Kanako and challenge that notion. Cole can chime in on who's right in conflicts of that notion
I think that could be a lot of characters, and even circumstances.
Anonymous No.712781792
>>712773028
I played a bit of luna nights when it first released as early access or something, it was fun
Anonymous No.712781997 >>712782450 >>712784046 >>712788917
>>712771354
there's almost no other character, either official or fanon, like her. Closest we have in canon is Berdly, and fanon prior was Cheerie(RIP). Also someone's making a Martlet model
https://files.catbox.moe/5vkov5.png
Anonymous No.712782450 >>712782543
>>712781997
>Cheerie
who?
Anonymous No.712782543
>>712782450
from dreemurr reborn, one of the first AUs ever
she was gonna have a cameo in yellow but was removed for whatever reason
Anonymous No.712784046
>>712781997
>here's almost no other character, either official or fanon, like her
she is basically a watered down papyrus, I like Martlet but lets not kid ourselves
Anonymous No.712784305 >>712784980
any new good Ceroba content?
Anonymous No.712784980 >>712794516 >>712794662 >>712805436
>>712784305
Roba is no longer the worst mom
Anonymous No.712785306 >>712785678 >>712786474
Question for you anons. If your wish came true and you got to marry your UTY waifu, would you be a good father to their kids.

Birdbros, would you be a good dad to Clover?

Cerobros, would you be a good dad to Kanako?
Anonymous No.712785475 >>712785776
>cole brushes kanako's tail
>its a weekly thing, every sunday.
>cole does it with a deadpan expression, but enjoys every second of it
>kanako obviously gets flustered to hell and back
>heavy blush the whole time and for a few hours afterwards.
>first time sadie saw it happening she had to take a moment to think about if she wanted to ask why.
>eventually she decided against it, not wanting to learn something else about human-monster relationships that she really wishes she didnt know.
Anonymous No.712785647
>>712767836
Anonymous No.712785678 >>712785826 >>712790405
>>712785306
If Kanako was somehow revived as something other than an amalgamate, sure, I could see myself genuinely trying to raise and take care of her. If she's still an amalgamate, I can't help but feel like I'd take the same approach to her as Okuyasu and Keicho had with their dad in DIU.
Anonymous No.712785776 >>712786824
>>712785475
Sadie just wishes she was getting her tail polished
Anonymous No.712785826 >>712786141 >>712786294
>>712785678
>I can't help but feel like I'd take the same approach to her as Okuyasu and Keicho had with their dad in DIU.
Try to kill her by giving people super powers?
Anonymous No.712786141 >>712786651
>>712785826
Well, maybe not specifically like that, but I feel like it'd be irresponsible not to at least look into the prospect of putting her (and potentially the other amalgamates) out of their misery, given their situation. Based on what we see of the amalgamates in the original game, I imagine it's not too dissimilar to being infected by The Flood, which isn't a great time either.
Anonymous No.712786294
>>712785826
>Try to kill her by giving people super powers?
Now that I think about it, it would be pretty funny if I found a way to actually kill an amalgamate by making another monster powerful enough to do so, inadvertently fulfilling Chujin's desire to create his serum to make monsters stronger, only to then use the result of said success to kill his daughter.
Ironic.
Anonymous No.712786474 >>712786770
>>712785306
Where does this image come from?
Anonymous No.712786651 >>712787227 >>712787534
>>712786141
Some of the amalgams seem to be pretty ok with what they've become, like the dogs. Others like So Cold are in perpetual misery due to conflicting biology and minds. Its not really comparable to the flood since those are a malignant outside force destroying your mind so they can assimilate your bio mass. Amalgams are monsters that have melted and got mixed together. So she may not want to die.

And do you really think Roba would be ok with that?

Besides who else is gonna give post true pacifist shambling zombie clover any love if not the goopy abomination fox?
Anonymous No.712786770
>>712786474
Some drawfag, I believe.
Anonymous No.712786824 >>712786910
>>712785776
maybe, maybe.
but she still thinks those two are fucking weird.
Anonymous No.712786910
>>712786824
sour grapes
Anonymous No.712787227 >>712787693
>>712786651
Yeah, it's possible Kanako (or whatever's left of her) may be more mentally coherent than some of the other amalgamates, but I'm not sure how much I'd bet on that. The UTY devs apparently say that Kanako ends up as that one spoon-looking amalgamate from UT, and if that's the case, I'm not sure there's too much left of her mentally if she can't even pull herself into a form that even vaguely resembles her normal form, like the other amalgamates are shown to. Aside from having been injected with the essence from the integrity soul, who knows how many other monsters she merged with when the experiment went wrong. Kanako might not even be the dominant consciousness, she could easily be just one of a dozen different components of the amalgamate she's part of now.
Based on all that, I think it's only right to at least try and look into ways to not leave her as an indestructible immortal slime pile with turbo-dementia, even if that means destroying her.
Ceroba probably wouldn't be okay with that depending on the state Kanako appears to be in, but I probably just wouldn't tell her unless I thought I had a way to peacefully put the amalgamate to rest, and actually wanted to go through with it.
>who else is gonna give post true pacifist shambling zombie clover any love if not the goopy abomination fox?
>pairing a corpse with a big slime hive mind
Well now that'll just actually make The Flood, that's playing with fire right there.
Anonymous No.712787534 >>712787753
>>712786651
Alternatively, you could probably try separating the amalgamates with that DT extractor from the lab. I figure that extracting too much DT from the amalgamates would probably just kill them, since monsters still need *some* DT in order for their bodies and souls to exist, just not too much, so removing the amalgamates' DT might cause their bodies to lose cohesion and cause them to die, but I think it might be possible to remove just enough that their bodies are able to separate, but not enough to kill them. I mean, Flowey absorbed the souls of all the monsters in the underground when he turned into Asriel at the end of the pacifist route, but he was able to separate them back into their own bodies just fine, even though we know that a monster's body is supposed to vanish when it's soul is removed or destroyed. It's a long shot, but I think there's probably a way in-universe to do the same thing for the amalgamates, even if I have no idea how you'd go about cleanly separating the various monster's bodies and souls.
Anonymous No.712787693 >>712787869
>>712787227
>Well now that'll just actually make The Flood, that's playing with fire right there.
They're not gonna mix together. Clover is solid matter and Kanako is magic slush. It'd be like dropping a log in a bucket of water.
Anonymous No.712787753 >>712788152
>>712787534
What if we put her in a big centrifuge?
Anonymous No.712787869 >>712788064
>>712787693
I dunno, I could easily see something like this happening instead: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8SExB_ljhdM
Plus, given all the weird shit we've seen going on with human corpses in UT/DR, I think we're probably better off not feeding one to the immortal goo pile that absorbs people.
Anonymous No.712788064 >>712788529
>>712787869
But they love each other, anon. Who are you to deny young love?
Anonymous No.712788152
>>712787753
Hm. That feels kinda stupid, but we know that souls can be affected by physical impulses, so it's not out of the question that that could actually do something. Maybe that could move the various souls inside the amalgamate to different parts of the shared body, allowing the souls to make certain parts of the body more distinctly their own, and then allowing for them to be separated? That feels like an insane shot in the dark, but I could almost see something like that working in the world of UT/DR.
Anonymous No.712788529
>>712788064
Someone who values not having the entire underground/planet being overrun by a human-monster hybrid goo pile that absorbs people.
Anonymous No.712788631
>>712756889
Anonymous No.712788886 >>712789667 >>712789685
Alright, Flood posting aside, you know what I'm surprised I haven't seen?
A Kanaclover ship where Kanako uses her amalgamate shapeshifting to basically act like a symbiote for Clover. I feel like someone should've done that by now. I'm not even that big into Kanaclover, but this just feels so obvious.
Anonymous No.712788917 >>712789059
>>712781997
I would have drawn more NSFW but I think the previous stuff I did looked bad, and people in the fairly small fan base for Undertale Yellow got angry at me for drawing Clover having sex w/ Martlet.
Anonymous No.712789059 >>712789467
>>712788917
What'd your previous stuff look like?
Anonymous No.712789467 >>712789651
>>712789059
Its some of the earlier stuff on E6 for Martlet + Clover, I had him smoking a cigar I think. I've improved ~ a little since then.
Anonymous No.712789651 >>712789863 >>712789927
>>712789467
What, this one? https://e621.net/posts/4574343
Honestly, this isn't that bad. I think the faces could be a bit better, but other than that, it's pretty good.
Any chance you'll draw more UTY stuff at any point?
Anonymous No.712789667 >>712789738
>>712788886
You know what I've seen? A pixel-art animation of Kanako amalgamate raping Alphys!

Isn't that great?
Anonymous No.712789685
>>712788886
feels too tranny adjacent
Anonymous No.712789738
>>712789667
I don't believe you.
Anonymous No.712789863
>>712789651
Gives me that "low-quality flash porn cartoon from 00s" vibe for some reason.
Anonymous No.712789927 >>712790198
>>712789651
Maybe - I've got a list of Deltarune stuff I want to do first, mostly just going to be sketches. If you have a request I can add it to the stack.
Anonymous No.712790198 >>712790998
>>712789927
Oh tight, thanks for offering. Could I get some Ceroba/Anon cuddling during sex, with Ceroba being the dominant party?
Anonymous No.712790405 >>712790473
>>712785678
What if she's the fanon amalgamate version, where its just her not mixed with any other monsters?
Anonymous No.712790473 >>712791653
>>712790405
Eh, that's mostly alright then. Should probably find a way to take that integrity essence out of her though, that's probably not great for her.
Anonymous No.712790998 >>712791230
>>712790198
That doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to do, sure.
Anonymous No.712791230 >>712791327
>>712790998
Sick, looking forward to seeing it!
Where are you gonna be posting it when it's done?
Anonymous No.712791327 >>712791542
>>712791230
Here, E6, my twitter. I try to drop stuff everywhere at the same time.
Anonymous No.712791517 >>712791592 >>712791594 >>712791653
Is yellow actually good, I think I might play it since I'm not touching deltarune until its finished.
Anonymous No.712791542 >>712791942
>>712791327
Alright, I'll be sure to keep an eye out. I imagine it'll be some time before you'll be able to get around to this request?
Anonymous No.712791592
>>712791517
its better than you'd expect, even with a few flaws.
just push past the first area. the devs didnt think to revisit that after they made it as teens.
Anonymous No.712791594 >>712794523
>>712791517
Eh, if you like Undertale and can stand some minor writing issues, I'd say it's worth a shot, it is free after all.
Anonymous No.712791653 >>712791749
>>712790473
why you say that anon

>>712791517
it's "good" but falls short of "great", still recommend playing
start is rough but it gets better as it goes
Anonymous No.712791687 >>712792108
>>712772038
If you can do that you might as well go a bit further and sell your own game imo. I get what other anons are saying but fan-games matching the quality of the OG means the author should have just done their own thing
Anonymous No.712791749 >>712792210 >>712794451
>>712791653
I dunno, having the soul essence of a rampant murder child just doesn't strike me as being particularly healthy.
Anonymous No.712791942 >>712792059
>>712791542
A few days, maybe a week.
Anonymous No.712792059
>>712791942
Sounds good, I can wait until then. Thanks again for doing this, it's pretty cool of you.
Anonymous No.712792108
>>712791687
I do have plans for an original game that did start off from the first draft of DRY until I changed it enough to be its own thing, but that project is currently on ice since I'm waiting for my team to stop being busy (which is hopefully soon)
I will probably still work on DRY meanwhile when I'm not busy but progress will slow down a lot more
Anonymous No.712792210
>>712791749
Think of it this way, the soul essence being inside her means she's part black, which could help her get scholarships in the future.
Anonymous No.712793749
Tell me about Sadie.
Why does she worship the Angel?
Anonymous No.712793910 >>712794761
>>712781432
>She's not retarded like Roba, she's actually pretty smart, just only in certain areas
Right, I didn't mean to imply she was stupid, and honestly I think a Roba rewrite should avoid making her stupid (unless it's a shitpost like we make). My take on Roba in my fic is going to be along the lines of her never receiving a formal education, though she picks up a lot from her husband and doesn't sound uneducated in her speech. She's a capable person and can figure things out as she goes, but has no frame of reference for her qualifications.

Chujin doesn't blue himself in this timeline, but if he did Ceroba would believe he was on the verge of solving it, and believe herself able to piece the rest together by studying his notes and tapes, despite the fact that he was pioneering a new field of study by himself (assuming UTY timeline and he has no idea what Alphys is up to) and that she doesn't even know the fundamentals. She can't judge if a change to the formula has happened, let alone if it's closer or farther from the solution, and just has to guess.


DRY Kanako would be less extreme than this, but she should through her sheltered upbringing be unable to judge her own competency in a given task and to overestimate herself in areas she's completely unequipped. That doesn't mean IN-competent, but she may come across as such if she confidently tackles a problem from an entirely wrong angle while someone who knows that they don't know would think it over before acting. She has her father's good intuition (say what you will about his end results but he made big strides in unexplored places without assistance), but she might act before she thinks to use it.
Anonymous No.712794193
Idk if the anon who comm'd it still looks at the yellow threads but could you post that zircon martlet shower one, they never posted it on their Twitter :(
Anonymous No.712794358
>>712762291
>significantly less gay than Undertale
dropped
Anonymous No.712794451
>>712791749
All we know for certain with UTY Integrity is that she gained EXP. Her being an evil genoslider is just a popular headcanon; it's possible she was acting in self-defense, or that she at first acted in self-defense and that it morphed into her believing all monsters were after her and that all violence was self-defense in this context.

Personally I feel a child whose SOUL shone with integrity shouldn't be a merciless serial killer, and that her actions should be governed by some internal sense of morals. She would have lines she wouldn't cross, even in extreme circumstances where she personally suffers for that. Not a saint, but someone who could not bring themselves to, say, attack Papyrus after he spares you.

I feel like most Integrity takes don't factor their SOUL element into their personality or actions at all, which is odd since Clover is so rigidly defined by jaundice.
Anonymous No.712794516 >>712794662 >>712805436
>>712784980
The single greatest development from ch3+4
Anonymous No.712794523
>>712791594
Unfortunately, the writing sucks in the places where it hurts the most.

>>712762291
>>712756698
Unfortunately, it's gay in the places where it hurts the most.
Anonymous No.712794662 >>712794720 >>712794763 >>712795357
>>712784980
>>712794516
As bad as DR Toriel was, she had not directly harmed anyone. So nope, she's still not as bad Retardroba.
Anonymous No.712794720
>>712794662
that we know of, the whole code fuckery with the black deer implies toriel is responsible in some way for what happened to dess
Anonymous No.712794761 >>712795541
>>712793910
I think Roba's stupidity is unironically a benefit to her a character if you actually write with that it mind rather than it being a post hoc justification for poorly thought out writing. Roba being the dim witted contrasts well against Chujin being the genius.

She shouldn't be retarded, but the term bimbo was probably thrown around by some people when she was in school. Very pretty, not too bright, and prone to not thinking things through due to her hotheadedness.
Anonymous No.712794763 >>712795098
>>712794662
You don't need to directly harm someone to ruin a life (and a TV's life)
Anonymous No.712794896
Anonymous No.712795043
Sea Robber the Pirate
Anonymous No.712795098
>>712794763
Compare Axis to Tenna. He's doing pretty well compared to that tube, Roba had very little to do with what's wrong with him. Unlike Tenna, who's primary source of trauma is Toriel.
Anonymous No.712795357 >>712795713
>>712794662
UT Toriel is the same character as DR Toriel but with a body count of 7 human children and countless monsters including her own son.
Anonymous No.712795541 >>712796563
>>712794761
You know, I'm honestly not sure I get the idea that Ceroba is even generally less intelligent than other monsters. Sure, she made some bad decisions, but she was also handed a project by her husband that she hand no real hope of actually completing, and that lead her to make those bad decisions in the first place. If Chujin hadn't left his serum project for Ceroba to complete after he died, Ceroba wouldn't have fucked up Kanako or tried to kill Clover, simply because there wouldn't have been a reason for those things to actually happen. And honestly, how many monsters in the underground are actually equipped and experienced enough to deal with the kind of stuff Chujin was working with anyway, like maybe three or four people? The only scientifically literate monsters I can think of would be Alphys, maybe Sans, and Gaster, and each one of those has their own problems.
Outside of all the stuff relating to the serum, Ceroba seems to be a fairly normal person, if a bit hotheaded as you said. Definitely more intelligent than a lot of the random monster NPCs you run into throughout the underground.
Anonymous No.712795713 >>712795835 >>712795962
>>712795357
>with a body count of 7 human children and countless monsters including her own son
Not direct kills, unlike roba. Discounting a possible fiasco in her own fight at the beginning of UT.
But that's beside the point. Neither of the two should've ever been allowed to be mothers.
Anonymous No.712795835
>>712795713
>Not direct kills
Yeah, but unless each of the fallen humans after Chara but before Frisk happened to fall through a hole in the ground just like Clover, that still means Toriel willingly let at least a few of the fallen humans venture out into the underground and get themselves killed knowingly. Arguably this was for the best, since it got everyone their freedom at the end of the day, but still not great decision making from the standpoint of someone trying to act as a caretaker for the fallen humans.
Anonymous No.712795857 >>712798669
Martlet feels like the kind of character you could recruit in deltarune desu (in a good way)
Anonymous No.712795962
>>712795713
>Not direct kills
Doesn't matter since she was the fucking queen and the whole problem would have been solved if she had actually done her job as queen of the underground and talked Asgore down (which she perfectly could have done after a short amount of time when the shock of what happened settled down). Gerson directly tells you that when she used to be around most people considered her the real decisionmaker over Asgore, she could have perfectly done something about it without riling up the public, but to her it was more important to spite Asgore than to be a good queen, let alone a good mother or wife or anything of the sort, and that led to the deaths of 6 children and countless monsters.
Fuck, the Chujin debacle would have never happened in the first place if Toriel had simply done her fucking job.
She's far more malicious than Ceroba just for that reason alone, spite was her main motivator over anything else.
Anonymous No.712796423 >>712796626 >>712800391
Realistically, who would you ship Martlet with?
I know that there are people who ship her with Starlo, but I think Staroba would be the more realistic outcome.
Also I find it odd that most ships with Martlet are less popular than ones with other major characters.
Anonymous No.712796563
>>712795541
I'm saying I think it contributes to her character. Roba being stupid is endearing and helps to make her stand out among the other characters.
Anonymous No.712796626 >>712797365 >>712798269
>>712796423
Either Papyrus or me
Anonymous No.712797365 >>712798269
>>712796626
i remember the papyrusXmartlet stuff and still think its the funniest shit
also reminds me of the idea where monsters having sex creates a mashup of their respective themes. shame im no good at archive diving.
Anonymous No.712797481 >>712797586
>>712751906 (OP)
We just got more Deltarune so UTI is dead
Anonymous No.712797586 >>712797638
>>712797481
>UTI
Ah yes, my favorite fangame, urinary tract infection
Anonymous No.712797638
>>712797586
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zu_eDxflkMc
Anonymous No.712798269 >>712798434 >>712800575
>>712796626
>>712797365
I don't think Papyrus is capable of sex. He's just too innocent for that sort of stuff. And Martlet is too innocent to molest him. So they'd just sort of pal around without any real romantic intention.
Anonymous No.712798434 >>712798494 >>712798673 >>712798683 >>712815893
>>712798269
>He's just too innocent for that sort of stuff
What if Sans or Undyne sat him down and gently explained to him what sex was
Anonymous No.712798494
>>712798434
he would dust from the mental damage.
Anonymous No.712798669
>>712795857
Not scrimblo enough to be a Darkner, if that's what you're talking about.
Anonymous No.712798673 >>712798803
>>712798434
Sans wouldn't, not just because he's protective of his brother, but because he thinks its funny to watch stuff fly over his head. Undyne wouldn't want any part of teaching a grown man about the birds and the bees.
Anonymous No.712798683
>>712798434
Sex isn't real
Anonymous No.712798803 >>712799009
>>712798673
>Undyne wouldn't want any part of teaching a grown man about the birds and the bees
Undyne never shies away from a challenge, but the problem is that she also always takes things too far.
Anonymous No.712799009 >>712799236
>>712798803
She'd end up explaining it wrong, completely neglect to ever actually mention any anatomical parts, Papyrus would walk away thinking it was some kind of battle where people fight to see who can like the other person more. Actually, that's probably where he got his idea of romance in the game from.
Anonymous No.712799236 >>712799305
>>712799009
I like to imagine Martlet would still enjoy β€œhaving sex” with Pap after this.
Anonymous No.712799305 >>712799840
>>712799236
I don't even know if Undyne ever actually mentioned the word sex. She might've just screamed incoherently about fiery passion and unstoppable love barrages.
Anonymous No.712799840 >>712800105 >>712800315
>>712799305
Maybe Alphys can explain it to him then, or hell since we’re in a yellow thread why not Ceroba or Starlo?
Anonymous No.712800105
>>712799840
Ceroba wouldn't want to bother, Starlo and Alphys would be too embarrassed too.
Anonymous No.712800315
>>712799840
>Maybe Alphys can explain it to him then
She may have some deep theoretical knowledge, unfortunately all her reference material is anatomically inaccurate and is heavily censored in the most important parts.
>Starlo
You know, Starlo can probably just refer him to his parents instead.
Anonymous No.712800391 >>712800747 >>712801856 >>712801925
>>712796423
Undertale: Grillbys pink bird, dalv, Papyrus, chujin?
Deltarune: Miss Mizzle, Rouxls Kaard, tasque manager, The Smith guy (althrough mostly platonic teambuilding for this one), Ramb (the crackiest crackship i have ever thought of)
Anonymous No.712800575 >>712801068
>>712798269
Papyrus isnt retarded, he knows about things like death, which is why he tries so hard to help you early on while you're on waterfall, and it's implied that King Papyrus is aware that sans lied about his friends going on vacations but keeps coping that theyll come back someday, as papyrus has been shown to act differently when away from sans (example: he acts like he doesnt know what "lab" in alphys' lab means in one of the phonecalls with undyne, but when calling him solo, he actually says that it's the lab), i'm pretty sure he would know what sex is
Anonymous No.712800747 >>712800953
>>712800391
>The Smith guy
Forgot about Malius and thought you were talking about Gerson for a second. Which makes me wonder how Gerson would mentor Martlet.
Anonymous No.712800953 >>712801070
>>712800747
"borrow" her manual and then lose it so she's forced to think for herself rather than relying on a book to do it for her.
Anonymous No.712801068
>>712800575
He either doesn't know what it is or has an idea but remains willfully ignorant.
Anonymous No.712801070 >>712801574
>>712800953
Maybe he'd teach her some meditations or guru-style shit, because it kinda feels like she's overly anxious at times and gerson would know that anxiety is gonna kill her performance in battles
Anonymous No.712801526
I just had an idea for a character for DRY. A minor NPC darkner based on Kanako's TV. His name is K. Bill and his sprite is a smaller pallette swapped version of Tenna (or a 2d pallette swap of tenna if color inverting the 3d sprites is too hard). He'd only have a couple gag lines, nothing important. Is probably next to a bunch of darkners based on Kanako's Wii games. (which are specifically darkners based on the discs and boxes, not the contents of the games themselves).
Anonymous No.712801574
>>712801070
No, he'd trick her into to doing things so that once she's done them she'll realize she doesn't need to doubt herself.
Anonymous No.712801660 >>712802063
When will Robert canonize Martlet as Burghley's aunt?
Anonymous No.712801856
>>712800391
Honestly, I feel like every Lightner/Darkner ship is a crack ship now.
Anonymous No.712801925 >>712802268
>>712800391
Crazy how all the yuri ships mentioned here are still better than suselle
Anonymous No.712802063
>>712801660
She feels more like an older cousin to me. Yellow getting an official reference seems impossible to me but then again so did the titans appearing in chapter 4 so who knows.
Anonymous No.712802268 >>712802440
>>712801925
I don't disagree but let's not bring this filth here.
I think Martlet/Ceroba can work pretty well. Not as a serious thing, just two women finding comfort in each other's embrace.
Anonymous No.712802440 >>712803581
>>712802268
>lets not bring this filth here
>proceeds to bring this filth here
Anonymous No.712803581 >>712804549 >>712807514
>>712802440
Don't get me wrong, but half of the fun in these threads is taking concepts that don't work and fixing them. So why don't we write a good lesbian romance while we're at it? Something with a hook, with a meat on it, something beyond a simple fetish stuff, something better than "they're schoolgirls and they blush next to each other". Here we have two adult women with age difference, one innocent and other mature, bonding over common loss and sharing the same lack of common sense - all we need is just a drop of "adult soda" to turn it into something beautiful, passionate and slightly fucked up. Just imagine them both lying in bed in afterglow, Martlet awkwardly stroking Ceroba's head and reassuring her that they did not betrayed Chujin. No, there's definitely something to it.
Anonymous No.712804549 >>712804898
>>712803581
>So why don't we write a good lesbian romance
Anon I agree in spirit but the vast majority of people in these threads despise yuri and don’t believe that β€œgood lesbian romance” exists. I’d say go to reddit for help but those retards can’t do anything right, and tumblr is long dead so idk.
Anonymous No.712804898 >>712804959
>>712804549
>vast majority of people in these threads despise yuri and don’t believe that β€œgood lesbian romance” exists
It's kind of an opposite actually, in my experience - vocal minority yelling at you and calling you a homophobe because you disliked their pet ship.
Anonymous No.712804959
>>712804898
There are people in these threads unironically calling you homophobic?
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>>712794516
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>>712803581
>So why don't we write a good lesbian romance
look man, I understand what you are trying to say, but me and many other anons have lesbian fatigue, both from games and fandoms in general, its like two single women can't exist without them becoming lesbians or without the fandom shipping them, I'll wouldn't mind a gay couple but a lesbian one only makes me think that the writter is a yurifag
Anonymous No.712807618 >>712811930
>>712807398
To be fair, I haven't seen much yuri shipping in UTY specifically, it is much more focused on gays.
Anonymous No.712808520 >>712809009 >>712809139
>meanwhile in Cole's brain
Anonymous No.712809009
>>712808520
A worthy mission.
Anonymous No.712809139 >>712809824
>>712808520
Does it matter? He'll never see her again after moving out. You know how this goes.
Anonymous No.712809824
>>712809139
It can't end like that wtf
Anonymous No.712810014
Clover I remember you're genocides
Anonymous No.712811930 >>712812108 >>712812180
>>712807618
thats only because the only relevant women in UTY are Martlet and Ceroba and even yurifags know that shipping them would be weird
Anonymous No.712812108
>>712811930
I've seen more shipping with marlet and moray just due to moray commenting on martlet being in jail (their only interaction outside the scenes where the entire feisty are together)
it is called "prisonyuri" or something and kinda makes them ignore moray's NB-ness and make her female (ironic and hypocritical, as expected of them)
Anonymous No.712812180 >>712812760
>>712811930
>shipping them would be weird
Okaye,
But what if... I ship them?
Anonymous No.712812349 >>712813508 >>712813623
>>712755912
You're asking this in a thread that's been whittled down to just megafans, so of course you're going to get universal praise.
The game is "fine". It's more Undertale if you needed it but it doesn't really understand the source material very well. The script comes across as pretty juvenile too, namely in how the story treats the main character killing themself as a heroic thing, genocide is also just weirdly an objectively good ending despite being treated similarly to Undertale's genocide otherwise.
Anonymous No.712812760
>>712812180
You're already busy with something else
Anonymous No.712813508 >>712816631
>>712812349
>You're asking this in a thread that's been whittled down to just megafans, so of course you're going to get universal praise.
the megafans are the most critical of it though
it is why there is so much fan stuff trying to fix the game
Anonymous No.712813623 >>712814976 >>712818009
>>712812349
>genocide is also just weirdly an objectively good ending despite being treated similarly to Undertale's genocide otherwise.
you have to kill dozens of monsters to get that ending and some of them were literally children
Anonymous No.712814976 >>712818009
>>712813623
And it ends with your player character killing a child murderer and freeing the captured souls.
Anonymous No.712815893
>>712798434
how do monster sex even work when some of them don't even have torsos?
Anonymous No.712815918 >>712816579
Great, that schizoid found the thread
Anonymous No.712816579 >>712816669
>>712815918
who?
the thread is fucking dead anyway
Anonymous No.712816631 >>712817854
>>712813508
>the megafans are the most critical of it though
Only on 4chan, everywhere else they will defend the retarded pacifist ending
Anonymous No.712816669
>>712816579
Sometimes some threads have to die, so others can live
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Anonymous No.712817548 >>712817735
one of the few times AUtism was based
Anonymous No.712817735 >>712817951
>>712817548
isn't that momroba still though
Anonymous No.712817854 >>712818132
>>712816631
>everywhere else they will defend the retarded pacifist ending
maybe twitter, but other sites have plenty of people shitting on the ending lmao
there’s even a whole channel that’s basically dedicated to fixing the game’s story and making it more canon with undertale with comments that are all basically criticizing the plot of the OG game
Anonymous No.712817951 >>712818132
>>712817735
That's why it's based, yes
Birdfags may have wonnered in the end with DRY but I will still always like momroba
Anonymous No.712818009 >>712821812
>>712813623
>>712814976
>kills tons of innocents
>kills one murder at the end
>”this is the objectively good ending”
idk how the hell the geno ending of this game filters people so hard into thinking it’s some β€œmorally grey” route kek
Anonymous No.712818132 >>712818370 >>712818403
>>712817854
>there’s even a whole channel that’s basically dedicated to fixing the game’s story and making it more canon with undertale with comments that are all basically criticizing the plot of the OG game
channel name?

>>712817951
for kanaclover to happen (or not be "weird") momroba must not happen
Anonymous No.712818370
>>712818132
Robr0Gaming is the name, iirc.
Anonymous No.712818403 >>712818840
>>712818132
>for kanaclover to happen (or not be "weird") momroba must not happen
This ONE singular point, I will consneed. The one single point against momroba
Anonymous No.712818840
>>712818403
cute paws
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Anonymous No.712820574
>>712818864
chimken
Anonymous No.712821812
>>712818009
>Monsters
>Innocent