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8/1/2025, 8:24:26 PM
>>1885324
The subverting the AI as a greyshitter is pretty bad but I wouldn't say it's banworthy on its own, neither is lubing up the brig.
It's the combination of one-humaning and lubing brig thus making oneself valid while there's an AI that only has to protect the one human (and end up de-facto purged if said human dies) while a vampire is running loose racking up kills and collecting thralls that makes this entire situation egregious. That's a fairly large amount of greyshittery for one person in one round, and I think doing something that could result in a purged AI is essentially self-antagging itself since that person created a situation where the AI is free to kill everyone or whatever. Whoever in the forum thread said it was like Leon's situation is correct - chain slipping the captain wouldn't be banworthy normally despite being shitter behavior, but when doing so helps an antag then it's basically self-antagging, especially if said person has a history of such offenses. This whole ordeal just created a situation for security that gave the antag a huge advantage while there was no good IC reason for it other than being a greytider.
I think greytiding can be a good thing for slow rounds because it creates situations when there wouldn't normally be any but doing it to this extent when there's already a confirmed active antag is overdoing it. An assistant job ban that lasts for a couple of weeks or so would be fair.
The subverting the AI as a greyshitter is pretty bad but I wouldn't say it's banworthy on its own, neither is lubing up the brig.
It's the combination of one-humaning and lubing brig thus making oneself valid while there's an AI that only has to protect the one human (and end up de-facto purged if said human dies) while a vampire is running loose racking up kills and collecting thralls that makes this entire situation egregious. That's a fairly large amount of greyshittery for one person in one round, and I think doing something that could result in a purged AI is essentially self-antagging itself since that person created a situation where the AI is free to kill everyone or whatever. Whoever in the forum thread said it was like Leon's situation is correct - chain slipping the captain wouldn't be banworthy normally despite being shitter behavior, but when doing so helps an antag then it's basically self-antagging, especially if said person has a history of such offenses. This whole ordeal just created a situation for security that gave the antag a huge advantage while there was no good IC reason for it other than being a greytider.
I think greytiding can be a good thing for slow rounds because it creates situations when there wouldn't normally be any but doing it to this extent when there's already a confirmed active antag is overdoing it. An assistant job ban that lasts for a couple of weeks or so would be fair.
5/31/2025, 10:01:06 PM
>>1777094
It's true for most servers on both games but they both also have smaller servers where that isn't the case. The thing is, SS14 is developed and run by rabid trannies while BYOND (the engine SS13 runs on) is developed by a single apolitical guy.
So any wrongthink gets a SS14 server kicked out of the hub and central auth system so those servers will have to set up their own from scratch if they want to keep going which is costly and time-consuming, although I've heard that several de-hubbed and de-authed servers were working together to make their own alternate auth system.
Meanwhile all that matters for SS13 is that the hub entry for the server doesn't have any explicit slurs in it, I guess because Lummox doesn't want that on the BYOND website, other than that you can host a server with whatever you want on it and the most trannies can do is ban anyone who played on chud servers from their own.
As the other posters said, /vg/station doesn't ban you for not sucking the girldick, there's also a kiwifarms server and I think at some point there was a sharty server. There's also some niche servers like Lifeweb but those are harder to find or get in to. You could also always take your chance on any lowpop hub server that probably doesn't have admins on.
It's true for most servers on both games but they both also have smaller servers where that isn't the case. The thing is, SS14 is developed and run by rabid trannies while BYOND (the engine SS13 runs on) is developed by a single apolitical guy.
So any wrongthink gets a SS14 server kicked out of the hub and central auth system so those servers will have to set up their own from scratch if they want to keep going which is costly and time-consuming, although I've heard that several de-hubbed and de-authed servers were working together to make their own alternate auth system.
Meanwhile all that matters for SS13 is that the hub entry for the server doesn't have any explicit slurs in it, I guess because Lummox doesn't want that on the BYOND website, other than that you can host a server with whatever you want on it and the most trannies can do is ban anyone who played on chud servers from their own.
As the other posters said, /vg/station doesn't ban you for not sucking the girldick, there's also a kiwifarms server and I think at some point there was a sharty server. There's also some niche servers like Lifeweb but those are harder to find or get in to. You could also always take your chance on any lowpop hub server that probably doesn't have admins on.
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