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Anonymous /vg/530947230#530952714
7/12/2025, 6:19:08 PM
>>530942719
He doesn't hate self defence at all. You can achieve true pacifist in Undertale by beating up most enemies until they're willing to surrender and then sparing them. You can also smooth-talk and charm foes, then backstab them when their guards are down for massive damage. This is because Toby is a genuine thinker and not a hack - he understands that morality is more complex than violent bad, smoochies good.

I think this flew over so many people's heads with UT than Toby made Deltarune to explore it more obviously; many creators have found themselves in this position, creating a more accessible work after their first success was misunderstood. Susie is the personification of the drive or will to fight and do violence, and Ralsei the opposite. All four chapters have consistently explored this simple dichotomy through increasingly varied and complex scenarios. We've seen the worst of violence in the Weird Route, and the best of violence in everyone's resolve to fight the Titan.

>>530942747
It's an extremely useful introduction to the fundaments of Dark Fountains.

>Wafer priests
Devout believers to a fault, highly religious and hierarchical, order and purpose. Reflects the Knight's devoted attitude towards the prophecy.

>Philosophers
Ultra-open-minded questioners, argues and debaters who skeptically refuse to believe in anything and will doubt even the most obvious things given enough time. They take delight in such airy hypotheticals because they are made from part of a church, but the essence of rejection and doubt is at the heart of Susie's troubled past and delinquent behaviour.

>Interaction
In the first sanctuary, the wafer priests worship the philosophers, believing that they held untold wisdom in the form of true answers worth enshrining and believing. In the second sanctuary, the philosophers view the wafer priests as clever doubters who asked important questions, and who could be asked in turn, forming a chain of endlessly satisfying queries.
Anonymous /vg/530919517#530951717
7/12/2025, 6:10:03 PM
>>530942719
He doesn't hate self defence at all. You can achieve true pacifist in Undertale by beating up most enemies until they're willing to surrender and then sparing them. You can also smooth-talk and charm foes, then backstab them when their guards are down for massive damage. This is because Toby is a genuine thinker and not a hack - he understands that morality is more complex than violent bad, smoochies good.

I think this flew over so many people's heads with UT than Toby made Deltarune to explore it more obviously; many creators have found themselves in this position, creating a more accessible work after their first success was misunderstood. Susie is the personification of the drive or will to fight and do violence, and Ralsei the opposite. All four chapters have consistently explored this simple dichotomy through increasingly varied and complex scenarios. We've seen the worst of violence in the Weird Route, and the best of violence in everyone's resolve to fight the Titan.

>>530942747
It's an extremely useful introduction to the fundaments of Dark Fountains.

>Wafer priests
Devout believers to a fault, highly religious and hierarchical, order and purpose. Reflects the Knight's devoted attitude towards the prophecy.

>Philosophers
Ultra-open-minded questioners, argues and debaters who skeptically refuse to believe in anything and will doubt even the most obvious things given enough time. They take delight in such airy hypotheticals because they are made from part of a church, but the essence of rejection and doubt is at the heart of Susie's troubled past and delinquent behaviour.

>Interaction
In the first sanctuary, the wafer priests worship the philosophers, believing that they held untold wisdom in the form of true answers worth enshrining and believing. In the second sanctuary, the philosophers view the wafer priests as clever doubters who asked important questions, and who could be asked in turn, forming a chain of endlessly satisfying queries.