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I don't think Shinobu is the weakest pillar, but she's not the fastest either. Compare to Sanemi who can blitz wrong Koku, and Shinobu couldn't even avoid Douma who is slower. Then in my opinion there is Giyuu whose speed is undetermined, but his power against an upper moon is far greater than Shinobu or Kanao's. Even if Shinobu is marked, she'd barely match default Giyuu without the mark, and that's the bare minimum.

Not as like the Giyuu would have survived Akaza even when marked, or if Akaza had the mark, he wouldn't have survived Rengoku having the mark as long as Giyuu having the mark. And maybe if Rengoku had access through the see too world, then Giyuu marked fighting Akaza marked (full powered) would have been underpowered by comparison unless Rengoku was an upper moon, in which case Upper moon marked could have had a more fair fight against Giyuu (marked, see through world) unless he reduced his battle spirit to bypass his compass, in which case Giyuu (marked) could defeat Rengoku (upper moon, see through world) if Akaza was also teaming up on him (without battle spirit). So something along the lines of:

Rengoku (Upper moon, no battle spirit) > Giyuu (Marked, see through world) > Akaza (no battle spirit) > Giyuu (Compass) > Rengoku (Marked) > Giyuu (Marked) > Giyuu > Rengoku > Shinobu (Marked) > Shinobu

This doesn't take the account considered for other pillars though. I honestly think Obanai (Marked, Upper Moon) could take Himejima and Giyuu (Both See the world) without poison if Giyuu wasn't present, or something along the lines of Rengoku (Battle spirit) fighting Giyuu (Moon breathing, marked) instead. But it's hard to gauge.

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