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7/7/2025, 8:04:12 AM
>>509718627
Why did the progenitors of Western civilization, the Greeks, believe that there were benefits to pederasty if it's just "mental illness"?
Why did the progenitors of Western civilization, the Greeks, believe that there were benefits to pederasty if it's just "mental illness"?
6/28/2025, 2:06:44 AM
>>508915862
You haven't provided a single source this entire thread.
You haven't provided a single source this entire thread.
6/25/2025, 9:45:55 AM
6/16/2025, 11:33:27 AM
>>17767956
>Was there child rape?
It seems that men and boys having consensual sexual relations with each other annoys you. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's rape.
>which the Romans/Greeks only interacted with a few tribes of for any period of time
There are a variety of different sources from different cultures (including a Persian) which describe Celts as practicing pederasty, centuries apart, presumably based on observation/knowledge of different tribes, and none which describe them as being opposed to it. So clearly, it was known during antiquity that the Celts practiced pederasty.
>your claim that it was pervasive is impossible to prove
It's impossible to prove the vast majority of things people believe about the past. There is sufficient evidence to believe ancient Celts engaged in pederasty.
>But it is not proof that this is true for Celtic/Germanic cultures.
I never claimed it was.
>>17767972
>you would need to produce the constitution of each city state and then demonstrate exactly how this institution appeared in each
No, you wouldn't. This is a ridiculously high standard of evidence. Do you also need to provide the constitution of each state to prove that men had sex with women? No, you can make that inference with other evidence.
>Take into account the fact the boy-lover did not have the meaning in Ancient Greek as it does to us
Every usage of the word paiderastēs in ancient Greek texts was used with a sexual connotation.
>it outlawed all homosexual contact
No it didn't.
>>17767977
You have no clue what you're talking about.
>Was there child rape?
It seems that men and boys having consensual sexual relations with each other annoys you. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's rape.
>which the Romans/Greeks only interacted with a few tribes of for any period of time
There are a variety of different sources from different cultures (including a Persian) which describe Celts as practicing pederasty, centuries apart, presumably based on observation/knowledge of different tribes, and none which describe them as being opposed to it. So clearly, it was known during antiquity that the Celts practiced pederasty.
>your claim that it was pervasive is impossible to prove
It's impossible to prove the vast majority of things people believe about the past. There is sufficient evidence to believe ancient Celts engaged in pederasty.
>But it is not proof that this is true for Celtic/Germanic cultures.
I never claimed it was.
>>17767972
>you would need to produce the constitution of each city state and then demonstrate exactly how this institution appeared in each
No, you wouldn't. This is a ridiculously high standard of evidence. Do you also need to provide the constitution of each state to prove that men had sex with women? No, you can make that inference with other evidence.
>Take into account the fact the boy-lover did not have the meaning in Ancient Greek as it does to us
Every usage of the word paiderastēs in ancient Greek texts was used with a sexual connotation.
>it outlawed all homosexual contact
No it didn't.
>>17767977
You have no clue what you're talking about.
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