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6/19/2025, 12:58:34 AM
>>211601827
And the most compelling thing about trek was that they always presented morally gray ethical quandaries and presented both sides. You can't present both sides any more intellectually when ur juvenile emotional illogical political beliefs lose almost every time. It's not compelling for an audience to get bludgeoned on the head with a hammer with ham fisted one-sided political messages. Take "Measure of a Man" I'm still not even quite 100% sure the outcome was the correct one and I still think about it. And it is more compelling than any NuTrek and there are 0 action scenes. Most of the best episodes are like this. They don't even know what Star Trek is.
And the most compelling thing about trek was that they always presented morally gray ethical quandaries and presented both sides. You can't present both sides any more intellectually when ur juvenile emotional illogical political beliefs lose almost every time. It's not compelling for an audience to get bludgeoned on the head with a hammer with ham fisted one-sided political messages. Take "Measure of a Man" I'm still not even quite 100% sure the outcome was the correct one and I still think about it. And it is more compelling than any NuTrek and there are 0 action scenes. Most of the best episodes are like this. They don't even know what Star Trek is.
6/13/2025, 1:55:33 AM
>>211380331
This. All NuTrek sucks balls. They used to be episodic morality plays where they presented an ethical quandary and showed both sides. Sometimes difficult decisions had to be made but they would explain it for the audience.
Now it is just political leftist browbeating with a bunch of action scenes shoehorned in that are meaningless because you don't care. Most of the best Star Trek had little to no action, and if there was it was in service to the story.
You can't have a proper ethical quandary morality play in NuTrek because you can't present both sides of an issue without the childishly shortsighted emotional leftist reasoning losing every time. So there's no way to present real character conflict or drama to be had - which was what made classic Star Trek so great. Classic Trek didn't beat you over the head telling you who was "bad" or "good" and hamfistedly make every single event an glaringly obvious allegory for some contemporary political issue. "oh no picard they are arresting the poor hardworking immigrant Romulans. Guess Starfleet are fascists now." It was often simple age old philisophical things of a grander scope like nature vs nurture, or the nature of free will etc.
They basically threw away everything that made Star Trek so unique and good and turned it into poorly written propaganda slop. Granted I only watched Picard of all the new shit but I just assume this of all the rest bc that's every decent IP now.
This. All NuTrek sucks balls. They used to be episodic morality plays where they presented an ethical quandary and showed both sides. Sometimes difficult decisions had to be made but they would explain it for the audience.
Now it is just political leftist browbeating with a bunch of action scenes shoehorned in that are meaningless because you don't care. Most of the best Star Trek had little to no action, and if there was it was in service to the story.
You can't have a proper ethical quandary morality play in NuTrek because you can't present both sides of an issue without the childishly shortsighted emotional leftist reasoning losing every time. So there's no way to present real character conflict or drama to be had - which was what made classic Star Trek so great. Classic Trek didn't beat you over the head telling you who was "bad" or "good" and hamfistedly make every single event an glaringly obvious allegory for some contemporary political issue. "oh no picard they are arresting the poor hardworking immigrant Romulans. Guess Starfleet are fascists now." It was often simple age old philisophical things of a grander scope like nature vs nurture, or the nature of free will etc.
They basically threw away everything that made Star Trek so unique and good and turned it into poorly written propaganda slop. Granted I only watched Picard of all the new shit but I just assume this of all the rest bc that's every decent IP now.
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