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7/21/2025, 4:25:37 AM
>>716018118
not really, the soul is only alluded to be the player once and its easy to miss it
yellow actually has the least amount of meta stuff compared to most fangames/stories based on UT/DR-verses, which for some may be disappointing but I was glad because almost no one can write it right (see: deltatraveler)
not really, the soul is only alluded to be the player once and its easy to miss it
yellow actually has the least amount of meta stuff compared to most fangames/stories based on UT/DR-verses, which for some may be disappointing but I was glad because almost no one can write it right (see: deltatraveler)
6/16/2025, 1:51:50 AM
>>712768312
>but does [ ... ] bad games?
Probably not. I'd say Yellow is still not nearly as bad as something like Deltatraveler. It's just. Disappointing.
If you look at the plot of Undertale Yellow, it is as close it could get from Undertale. Why does every area have a presiding monster you deal with? Because Undertale does it. Why does the game have a very le hard ebin hidden genocide route? Because Undertale does it. Why is the route progression so similar to Undertale? Because that's how Undertale is like. A lot of things it does, it does because Undertale does it, and it ends up barely doing anything interesting beyond that. It looks too much at Undertale to know what to do. Boss monsters; The True Lab Storyline; The Mail; The nearly unchanged combat system; They even put Hopes and Dreams on Ceroba's final boss fight despite it not fitting in any possible way. (AND THEY GOT STUFF WRONG)
I don't want to say it's all bad, but it feels like they didn't really try thinking about what they could have done of interesting with the new perspective they have, instead of just redoing Undertale. You have a game about pacifism where the main character uses a gun, and, all you could think is... they only use it if you fight. Okay. Undertale has that too, I guess. You can't even use it for puzzles. Have someone on that fucking team watch Trigun to get SOME ideas.
I think what separates a derivative work from a work that's inspired is thought. Undertale is inspired by a lot of things that Toby likes, and, If you really break down that game, it's essentially just a very simplified version of Dragon Quest and Mother, with some Touhou and SMT in. And yet, despite all the things he took, he thought about how they would fit together in a way that made sense *for* Undertale. He didn't just do them because the things he was referencing did it too.
I'll go back on it. I don't think UTY is *bad*. But it COULD have been *really* fucking good with some better vision.
>but does [ ... ] bad games?
Probably not. I'd say Yellow is still not nearly as bad as something like Deltatraveler. It's just. Disappointing.
If you look at the plot of Undertale Yellow, it is as close it could get from Undertale. Why does every area have a presiding monster you deal with? Because Undertale does it. Why does the game have a very le hard ebin hidden genocide route? Because Undertale does it. Why is the route progression so similar to Undertale? Because that's how Undertale is like. A lot of things it does, it does because Undertale does it, and it ends up barely doing anything interesting beyond that. It looks too much at Undertale to know what to do. Boss monsters; The True Lab Storyline; The Mail; The nearly unchanged combat system; They even put Hopes and Dreams on Ceroba's final boss fight despite it not fitting in any possible way. (AND THEY GOT STUFF WRONG)
I don't want to say it's all bad, but it feels like they didn't really try thinking about what they could have done of interesting with the new perspective they have, instead of just redoing Undertale. You have a game about pacifism where the main character uses a gun, and, all you could think is... they only use it if you fight. Okay. Undertale has that too, I guess. You can't even use it for puzzles. Have someone on that fucking team watch Trigun to get SOME ideas.
I think what separates a derivative work from a work that's inspired is thought. Undertale is inspired by a lot of things that Toby likes, and, If you really break down that game, it's essentially just a very simplified version of Dragon Quest and Mother, with some Touhou and SMT in. And yet, despite all the things he took, he thought about how they would fit together in a way that made sense *for* Undertale. He didn't just do them because the things he was referencing did it too.
I'll go back on it. I don't think UTY is *bad*. But it COULD have been *really* fucking good with some better vision.
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