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7/3/2025, 4:43:10 AM
ALL of the "classic" JRPGs are BORING. Every single one! FF7, Wild Arms, SaGa, Metal Max, SMT, Valkyrie Profile, Phantasy Star, Grandia, Breath of Fire... THEY MAKE ME WANT TO FALL ASLEEP. Yes, even XenoGears and Chrono Trigger are SNOOZEFESTS. I don't care how deep the systems are, I don't give a shit how crazy the story gets, and I especially don't want to hear more of this revisionist bullshit about how these games "revolutionized" the industry. I have tried to get into everything from Dragon Quest to Langrisser and IT'S NOT FUN OKAY? At least with Ys there's cool music, and I'm not COMPLETELY opposed to games with JRPG mechanics, but holy fucking shit! I feel like I'm going insane! Keep in mind, I'm not some Nintendo faggot, some of the first games I ever played were Landstalker and King's Field, but lo and behold it turns out most actual JRPGs are fucking SLOGS with barely any adventure to be had that doesn't involve VN-tier amounts of text and unskippable cutscenes. If you look at a top 100 list of all the best games ever made, like fucking 25 of them are JRPGs. Why? Out of all the genres, why does this shit have to invade everything? Because they "legitimized" videogames as an art form or some crap? Look, I get they're beloved, I can see the appeal and I'll admit I should open up my mind and retry the saves I've made...But enough is enough! DOESN'T CHANGE THAT THESE GAMES ARE FUCKING BORING!
6/26/2025, 10:22:50 AM
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Every ff game features a new story. They just need to stop making remakes and weird experiments and give us 17 and 18 with new stories
But reality is jrpgs are too expensive and hard to make. Just look at atlus struggling with Persona 4 Remake and Persona 6 being so late. And these are visual novels mostly, not to mention Yakuza recycling the same world and models most of the time.
While I think Persona resonates better than FF with zoomers, you also need to consider the timing. 16-20 years old zoomers will enjoy Persona, but would 38 yo zoomers enjoy Persona 7 where they call characters over 25 old? Zoomers are too fragile about age.
>But metaphor
7 years development and didn't sell as much, already forgotten
>But the budget of other turn based games
Exactly. So you are saying FF should be pixelated or cheap looking. But by doing so you kill the discussion around those games like all the other jrpgs.
>Expedition 33
Also hired tons of Koreans and had the help of a millionaire dad
Mind you I'm not shitting on these games, I'm just warning you that jrpgs are a risky genre, and are being eaten alive by gachas now.
FF is too easy to fix without Squarenix retardation though (no ps5 only and ignoring the party system, no multiple games)
Every ff game features a new story. They just need to stop making remakes and weird experiments and give us 17 and 18 with new stories
But reality is jrpgs are too expensive and hard to make. Just look at atlus struggling with Persona 4 Remake and Persona 6 being so late. And these are visual novels mostly, not to mention Yakuza recycling the same world and models most of the time.
While I think Persona resonates better than FF with zoomers, you also need to consider the timing. 16-20 years old zoomers will enjoy Persona, but would 38 yo zoomers enjoy Persona 7 where they call characters over 25 old? Zoomers are too fragile about age.
>But metaphor
7 years development and didn't sell as much, already forgotten
>But the budget of other turn based games
Exactly. So you are saying FF should be pixelated or cheap looking. But by doing so you kill the discussion around those games like all the other jrpgs.
>Expedition 33
Also hired tons of Koreans and had the help of a millionaire dad
Mind you I'm not shitting on these games, I'm just warning you that jrpgs are a risky genre, and are being eaten alive by gachas now.
FF is too easy to fix without Squarenix retardation though (no ps5 only and ignoring the party system, no multiple games)
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