>>715749241
I don't know if it's just me, but the jump from:
>Ok, Asriel, we just need to murder seven humans and then we can free all of your people from the prison my kind forced you in!
to:
>I AM THE CULMINATION OF MAN'S INSATIABLE DESIRE FOR GRINDING. I AM IN THE NUMBERS, PLAYER.
doesn't really seem like something that can be explained by just Determination. Flowey was basically Asriel without the capacity to feel anything when he was first created, but Chara's nothing like that.