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>then that means that they have lost the war.
Hamas has only lost the war when Israel achieves its objectives (returning all hostages and destroying all threat from Palestine to Israel forever).
This isn't a videogame where you have high K:D ratio or beat your enemy's units and it's a win.
Israel has to achieve its objectives.
>Is it because of that thing where Muslims like doing dramatic suicides?
haha... yea you don't seem to understand, this was their land first, for ~1400 years before 1948. Recency MATTERS. They have had fathers, brothers, sons die against you over this for generations. They will not leave how matter how much you torture them, you'll have to literally exterminate them all with 100% maximum efficiency to ever accomplish your goal, and you'll never stop being harassed by their 9m diaspora
Why are jews so realistic and clever about so many things, but about this they are living in fucking dream land? It's like a competency crisis