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Anonymous No.17900351
Who is "they"?

The Mexica of the Aztec capital of Tenochtitlan? Or their sacrifices specifically? Either way the answer is "No, they are not as bad as people make them out to be" but by how much differs

As an overall society, they're not particularly different from other Ancient or Medieval societies, especially other Mesoamerican ones. As seen in webm related (tho Moctezuma II should have Xiuhuitzolli, not a Quetzal headdress), most people eat meals with family, worked in farms or workshops, visited markets, and and bet on games, (see also desuarchive.org/his/thread/7617096/#7619771). Parents compared their children (who attended schools) to precious jewels and feathers, both in their value and fragility/need to be protected. You had merchants, artists, diplomats, doctors etc. There was a formal judicial system with courts and judges, aqueducts, bathes, and toilets. Nobles valued poetry, public speaking and botany, with lavish palace gardens etc. Sacrifice and cannibalism was merely one (thoan important) part of their religion, which in turn was just one aspect of their society

On a day to day basis most people were not thinking about or interacting with sacrifices, even priests were doing them more on a monthly (tho their months weren't quite the same as ours) then daily basis, and excavations suggest sacrifices were primarily a thing in city-states and capitals of kingdoms, less so in the towns and villages around them as dependences

Mexica rule over other states within the "Aztec Empire" was also pretty loose: Cortes got most of the allies he did against them not because of resentment towards the Mexica, but because they usually left existing kings in power and customs/laws in place, so subject states retained their own identity, agency, and ambitions, enabling opportunistic side switching or secession. Even places which repeatedly attempted to secede also weren't necessarily sacked/razed, which they did do sometimes but not particularly often in wars

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Anonymous No.716291573
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See the past 4 posts I did, starting in >>716288502 to >>716289940: The whistles making screaming noises is prob nonsense, and 20,000 sacrifices for "the empire" a year is actually maybe too low, but also not methodlogically sound, and it's just not categorically sensical to do "empire" wide sacrifice totals, along the other nitpicks I mentioned in the last post I did

And my final point about just it being cherrypicked: The average person's day to day life (desuarchive.org/his/thread/7617096/#7619771) wouldn't have interacted with or thought about most that stuff, and was pretty comparable to what commoners in Medieval Europe and I suspect China etc were doing. Even for priests sacrifices were relatively infrequent. Webm related is the typical day in Tenochtitlan (tho Moctezuma II having the big headdress is wrong).

Not even the Spanish considered Aztec society that metal: They compared them to the Greeks and Romans as civilized pagans. Bloodletting, and at times even ritual cannibalism and sacrifices were compared to stuff like communion and christ's sacrifice, the macabre imagery in their art (and they did depictions of flowers, birds, etc as much as skulls etc) was compared to skeletal depictions of mortality in Catholic art etc. I realize this prob just sounds like 'NUH UH" but I hope my autistic obsessive explanations in other posts, and my transparency in admitting that even 20k sacrifices for the whole "empire" is maybe too low, what I say to the anon below etc speaks to my intellectual honesty

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This is wrong tho: Sacrificial burials of more then 100 people are RARE, but they existed. EX: the Great Skull Rack seems to have held 16,000 skulls. And yes, sacrifices tied into legit theology where it was a cosmic necessity, I think it's naive to say that, as in all religions, it wasn't twisted and leveraged towards political purposes.

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