>>719197241
>Maybe if one had nothing to live for, or has chosen, or been chosen to work for actually unjust and unironically dishonorable people.
there is no government on this planet worth fighting and dying for
in general, soldiery and the propaganda surrounding it is a convenient way for powerful men to convince others to die in place of them
there haven't been 'just and honorable' people commanding men to war for a very long time, possibly ever
it was one thing millennia ago when men fought to prevent the assimilation of obliteration of their tribe but since that stopped being the primary cassus belli it has mostly been around money, resources and political power that the men fighting do not possess and never will
they choose to give up their lives for other men who do not value them as anything but numbers
frankly i find this kind of social engineering very impressive; to convince a man to give up his very life for something should be extremely difficult, but manage to convince him it's for his family (it's not) and he'll at least think about it because that's the kind of personal connection necessary for a man to be willing to die