>>17907718
I wouldn't be so hard on Peter (though be can take it, being the rock and all), but I do like to imagine that Judas has not only been saved but honoured, having been willing to be hated and assumed damned for generations to help carry out the plan.
"Blessed are ye, when men shall revile you, and persecute you, and shall say all manner of evil against you falsely, for my sake."
But there is an obstacle to that interpretation, which is that at least in our version of the story Jesus says it would be better for Judas to not have been born (Matthew 26:24). Then again, Ecclesiastes 4:3 has it that everyone would be better off not having been born, but then again again, maybe that's just Solomon being depressed.
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OP Here:
No, Tovia's arguments are very strong, religious, and in good faith. There is no good exoteric Christian explanation for where the Law went. Some laws are very specific and peculiar, like making being a disrespectful child, or working on Shabbat, a capital punishment. Every so many years all debts are forgiven and slaves freed. One must repay stolen goods double, and things like that.
None of these laws, which God said are good, conducive to success, POSSIBLE TO ACCOMPLISH, and for all time, is easily subsumed, or accounted for, or effectively replaced and maintained in the intuitive antonomianish spirit of Christianity. Though Jesus said he "fulfilled" the Law and obviated it for everyone else somehow, All Christians in practice have always vaguely maintained certain laws they like, and filled in the rest of the space with merely Natural-Law/Reasoned Civic Laws, just like every other Nation before/without Jesus.
This is a serious critique, as Judaism is essentially rooted in the Eternal Law of God in the Torah, and Christianity claims, with weak proof, to supercede said Eternal Law. Indeed, God even said in the Torah that there will be false, but effective prophets and miracle workers who would endeavor to pervert Jews away from the Law as a TEST. Miracles are NOT proof enough, according to the Law itself, for a total transformation of the Jewish Covenant.
God is not a Man, and cannot die.
OP Here:
No, Tovia's arguments are very strong, religious, and in good faith. There is no good exoteric Christian explanation for where the Law went. Some laws are very specific and peculiar, like making being a disrespectful child, or working on Shabbat, a capital punishment. Every so many years all debts are forgiven and slaves freed. One must repay stolen goods double, and things like that.
None of these laws, which God said are good, conducive to success, POSSIBLE TO ACCOMPLISH, and for all time, is easily subsumed, or accounted for, or effectively replaced and maintained in the intuitive antonomianish spirit of Christianity. Though Jesus said he "fulfilled" the Law and obviated it for everyone else somehow, All Christians in practice have always vaguely maintained certain laws they like, and filled in the rest of the space with merely Natural-Law/Reasoned Civic Laws, just like every other Nation before/without Jesus.
This is a serious critique, as Judaism is essentially rooted in the Eternal Law of God in the Torah, and Christianity claims, with weak proof, to supercede said Eternal Law. Indeed, God even said in the Torah that there will be false, but effective prophets and miracle workers who would endeavor to pervert Jews away from the Law as a TEST. Miracles are NOT proof enough, according to the Law itself, for a total transformation of the Jewish Covenant.
God is not a Man, and cannot die.