>>60791197
>money isn't really an investment on its own

Yes, though in theory crypto can work as a legit investment as long as its being sold as a utility with no expectation of a ROI.

The perpetual ROI factor is precisely what dooms the BTC investment paradigm: everybody buying it now expects to realize exponential gains, making implosion inevitable at some point.

An investment paradigm where millions of consumers are seeking access to the digital counter-economy to buy smuggled Prada bags and iPhones at discount prices works out mathematically as long as there's an exponential number of shoppers for every XMR holder. Hence why the total number of XMR investors needs to remain low lest exit liquidity dries up.

Its really all just basic math in the end, if you can make it work then with a little luck you actually can profit handsomely.

>>60599659
>>The future is in permissionless P2P grey markets
>is it, though? most normies are happy with way things are
>what will really take for people to go into permissionless p2p grey markets?

Finish the rest of the sentence

>selling legal goods & services at sub-retail prices

The keywords here being "sub-retail prices". Grey markets are really good at one thing: undercutting white markets, offering shoppers the exact same goods/services but at a lower price. Tailor-made for penny pinching consumers in search of a better deal.

Consider for example Asia, where smart devices are routinely smuggled and sold on grey markets at, you guessed it, sub-retail prices. The seller still makes a profit, the buyer walks away with a legit device without paying full price for it, its a pure win-win.

So, to answer your question, we can expect normies to take a keener interest in permissionless P2P grey markets when the legal goods & services they're after become available on said markets at competitive prices. Just need to make them aware of their options and let human nature take its course.