>>60798207
>And technically I'm part of the shadow economy too. I buy Bitcoin, conjoin it, wait, then use my profits to buy gift cards without declaring taxes. Monero hasn't helped me in my quest to evade taxes at all, because to be worth it, I'd need profit I can cash out on.
White market giftcards aren't grey/black market. Counter-economy = grey/black market, the colors of agorism.
>>60798234
>Well I /want/ to agree with you. Really, I want to believe. But the fact that MoneroMarket got shut down, LocalMonero got shut down, Monero's network is being shaken so easily, and its miners have been left to mine at a loss (which is not sustainable) ... all these are just sad events, blackpilling many, and leaving a bitter taste, "yeah, it will be better tomorrow (?)"
Sorry I can't share in your pessimism but I'm still pretty damn hyped about the future. The project is adapting as its supposed to. You take your licks and move on.
>>60798251
>It hasn't happened yet so it never will
Conducting grey market business on the darknet with privacy coins is safer and ultimately easier than conducting it on the clearnet with snitchcoins. That is a simple FACT. You can build your brand, settle into a domain and secure your profits long-term without having to constantly look over your shoulder. And its not like normies going shopping on the darknet is science fiction, consumer behavior in other sectors shows that once the friction drops and the benefits are obvious, mainstream adoption follows.
Just as streaming piracy went from niche to normal for millions, grey market goods purchased via privacy-preserving darknet platforms could normalize, driven not by ideology but by convenience, price and the simple desire to transact without interference. In that sense, the migration to the darknet isn’t just safer for operators, it’s the logical evolution for a growing segment of commerce.
So its really just a question of who does it first. Not if but when.