Anonymous
9/15/2025, 8:10:12 PM
No.720747446
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I've been calling Kris a guy for the past seven years but reading up on The Girl theory is making me rethink everything.
Holy fuck it makes so much sense. The game makes you want to think its Susie, but for dataminers it should be Noelle because she can use swords, but Kris fits this the most. The Girl is supposed to use ribbons, that's Kris' defining characteristic.
I've seen people say "Oh Toby would never do this by making it so Kris wasn't nonbinary." but they don't actually know Toby.
I played the Halloween Hack, I saw how Toby subtly hinted at Dr. Andonuts being gay and he did that in a time where that wasn't ok. It's not brave to have a nonbinary character, that's the standard corporations will do nowadays for a bit of cheap pandering.
What I think it is is that: Kris is a girl, arrived to Hometown, no one knew what to make of her at first and Toriel had to read the book about humans. Everyone just took to calling Kris "they" though and she's shy enough that she wouldn't correct them. Meanwhile Toriel just keeps giving her Asriel's hand-me-downs and you can tell Kris is upset by this by how in the Dark World the wardrobe is full of clothes where she can wear whatever she wants (people always use that as an example of her being LGBT, no she's just frustrated that she gets nothing of her own). No one ever cared enough about Kris to really get to know her, Susie's the first true friend Kris has had in this awful town
Here's going to be the big kicker though, it'll be revealed that Kris never was nonbinary and that everyone just put their own biases on her. Not just the monsters in hometown, but the fanbase who either aggressively said not to misgender "them" or thought Kris looked too much like a boy, and those people's assumptions were harmful. That's an actual statement the likes of which Toby would do.
Anonymous
9/15/2025, 5:12:33 AM
No.720696889
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I've been calling Kris a guy for the past seven years but reading up on The Girl theory is making me rethink everything.
Holy fuck it makes so much sense. The game makes you want to think its Susie, but for dataminers it should be Noelle because she can use swords, but Kris fits this the most. The Girl is supposed to use ribbons, that's Kris' defining characteristic.
I've seen people say "Oh Toby would never do this by making it so Kris wasn't nonbinary." but they don't actually know Toby.
I played the Halloween Hack, I saw how Toby subtly hinted at Dr. Andonuts being gay and he did that in a time where that wasn't ok. It's not brave to have a nonbinary character, that's the standard corporations will do nowadays for a bit of cheap pandering.
What I think it is is that: Kris is a girl, arrived to Hometown, no one knew what to make of her at first and Toriel had to read the book about humans. Everyone just took to calling Kris "they" though and she's shy enough that she wouldn't correct them. Meanwhile Toriel just keeps giving her Asriel's hand-me-downs and you can tell Kris is upset by this by how in the Dark World the wardrobe is full of clothes where she can wear whatever she wants (people always use that as an example of her being LGBT, no she's just frustrated that she gets nothing of her own). No one ever cared enough about Kris to really get to know her, Susie's the first true friend Kris has had in this awful town
Here's going to be the big kicker though, it'll be revealed that Kris never was nonbinary and that everyone just put their own biases on her. Not just the monsters in hometown, but the fanbase who either aggressively said not to misgender "them" or thought Kris looked too much like a boy, and those people's assumptions were harmful. That's an actual statement the likes of which Toby would do.