>>719750674
>So great it had zero influence on the stealth genre.
It practically invented it.
Not to mention MGS was always one of Sony's flagship titles, and a huge phenomena when one arrived. Zoombies can't remember this, obviously.

>they are terrible military stories
They're not "military stories".
They are societal criticism, tackling matters about times, politics and technology controlling people, alongside with genes and memes (the OG 1970s definition) affecting individual on a more personal level.

All this, while they're all also fun and exciting spy thrillers, with occasional tear-jerker moment or two.

But enough of detours.
MGSV was a butchered mess, PW is the real MGS5, and it's one of the top-3 MGS games of all time.

>>718997851
>Halo 2 came out the same year.
Dudebro "nerds with leather jackets" =/= normalfags, you fucking zoom zoom.

t: 1980s kid millennial.

>>718997924
>MGS1 was literally the most normalfag of normalfag game on the PS1
Wrong again.
It STILL filters ADHD zoombies and normies for being actually quite challenging and in-depth game, that requires focus and paying attention.

>People just wanted cool military action man game
No. People wanted another GOOD game, with good map design and a character that was NOT a literal case of Konami fishing for the then-nonexistent female gamer audiences, who in the end would come to swoon after Big Boss instead.

>>718998041
Get meds, consolewar schizo.
I've been PC-only the past 15 years.

Every single modern demake sucks ass.
#FuckKonami has been alive and well since 2005, strengthened since 2015.

>>717475740
it is actually PEAK.